Inside The Buccaneers’ Draft Board
May 18th, 2020
Cam Akers, J.K. Dobbins, the Bucs didn’t really want those running backs in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Joe learned this via the mouth of Bucco Bruce Arians’ son, Jake Arians, co-host of the TDN Fantasy podcast and a former college player who had a cup of coffee with the Buffalo Bills years ago.
Per the younger Arians, speaking on his podcast, when the Bucs were on the clock with the 45th overall pick, the running backs they coveted in the draft were off the board so they went with the smart move by selecting safety Antoine Winfield, Jr.
“All the running backs that they really wanted, the pass catching guys, were gone at that point. So you take the next biggest need, the next guy on your board. I love that pick [of Winfield], as well,” Jake Arians said.
Akers (Rams) and Dobbins (Ravens), who Joe referenced above, were still on the board when Bucs picked Winfield.
Jake Arians said drafting Dobbins in Round 2 “would have been exactly like having Ronald Jones twice,” noting third-round pick Ke’Shawn Vaughn is a much better pass-catching back than Dobbins.
As always with any draft, hopefully the Bucs made the correct calls, something they don’t often do at running back.
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May 18th, 2020 at 3:05 pm
After each draft the Bucs always get the player they wanted…
May 18th, 2020 at 3:09 pm
This was 100% the right call. getting Gronk and Wirfs helped the run game and offense for that matter more then any single back would have at that point plus as always we need secondary help and Winfield is a baller in that regard.
Had to have a balanced draft and get more talent into that secondary more then we we needed any running back. CEH may have been worth it but overall we needed defensive players more at that point.
May 18th, 2020 at 3:14 pm
i believe rojo will continue to develop and this kid may be a sleeper….
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 18th, 2020 at 3:28 pm
I almost cried when kc took the LSU kid. Also, I think Cam is a great back and better than rojo .
May 18th, 2020 at 3:30 pm
I don’t mind the Winfield pick but find it hard to believe that Vaughn is a better pass catching back then Akers.
May 18th, 2020 at 3:42 pm
Akers was a 2nd round pick……Vaughn 3rd round…..
It’s simply hard to compare a Safety with a RB as far as needs & players…..both may turn out to be great picks or not….
What I like about the draft is that we did pick needs…..
RT, S, RB, 3rd WR, Dline Depth, RB/KR
The order of need is debatable but the needs….not so much.
May 18th, 2020 at 3:42 pm
the 3rd rd RB we drafted will be nothing more than a utility player and will never project to be a contributor like the bucs thinks he will
All I know is this:
Gump GM ABSOLUTELY SUCKS when it comes to drafting a RB
May 18th, 2020 at 3:57 pm
Maybe, maybe not. With improved o line play Rojo may turn out to be all good this year. And don’t get down on the rookie yet, he’s yet to carry the ball. Be patient my man.
May 18th, 2020 at 3:58 pm
My top 2 were CEH / Swift so I was OK with passing on RB once those were gone
May 18th, 2020 at 4:01 pm
Lichts draft history of running backs.
Simms 2014 3rd
McNichols 2017 5th
Rojo 2018 2nd
Vaughn 2020 3rd.
Wonder if Charles Simms would have been a better pass receiving back with Tom Brady. He had 129 catches and 1190 receiving yards in 4 years here. Played in 47 games total.
May 18th, 2020 at 4:04 pm
When you have as many deadly weapons on the field as we will, there will be all kinds of opportunities for our RBs. It all comes down to can your RB break that first tackle. I believe ROJO and the rook can do it. Rojo broke some nice runs last year that were called back. And with too many turnovers those guys don’t get to carry the ball as much- they’re on the bench.
This will be a different offensive squad.
May 18th, 2020 at 4:07 pm
Other running backs in 2018.
R penny
S Michel
K Johnson
D guice
All taken in 1st or 2nd round.
Rather have Rojo then any of them.
May 18th, 2020 at 4:30 pm
I think Rojo will break out this year. You could start to see it at the end of last season and that was with a suspect offensive line. This year the line should be approved.
May 18th, 2020 at 4:33 pm
Licht has shown he can’t draft RBs.Hopefully we can pick one up in free agency before camp starts
May 18th, 2020 at 4:51 pm
LordCorn – Well yeah, as I’m sure that’s who the Bucs coveted and whom Arians alluded to but were in no position to trade up after they had already traded resources for Gronk and getting Wirfs. In general – everyone needs to get over it, can’t have everything. After those two backs, Winfield was not only the best player available, he also filled a need. Lastly, he will play many many MANY more snaps than a Cam Akers who would have split reps with Rojo at BEST.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:00 pm
I get Licht going for Winfield if he had him rated higher than the available running backs, but I don’t trust Licht when it comes to drafting safeties or running backs. Licht seems to have a weird fetish for drafting injury prone safeties, but what the hell do I know? Winfield, if healthy, looks like a madman, but it’s a hell of a risk. Licht has yet to draft or sign a single running back that is even average. It’s comical how bad he and his scouts are a evaluating running backs.
Licht has improved over the years so I can only hope that he made the right decisions at safety and running back THIS time. I’d feel a lot better about our running back situation if we signed a proven vet (Hello Devonta Freeman!), because if history is any indication, Licht has failed yet again to give us a decent running game.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:28 pm
Here’s a draft question for everybody.
What has happened to the NCAA football season? Anything yet? I honestly haven’t heard about plans for a college season.
Anybody heard anything? If there is no college season what will happen to the NFL draft?
May 18th, 2020 at 5:40 pm
St. Pete – There are plans afoot by the schools. Nothing clear (there are worries about losing the “pageantry”. But I think the odds are that there will be a season. Probably with limited fans, sad to say. But better than no games.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:42 pm
Some of you crack me up. You probably are still mad we didn’t draft Derwin James. He was the best player for us you say. But also overlook his injury history in college. He had a knee injury and a foot injury. But he was a must 1st round pick for us. Winfield has a hamstring and foot injury and plays two I jury free seasons. And yet he is injury prone and you say hope he can stay healthy. Such hypocrites on here. James what injuries. Winfield injury prone.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:42 pm
@stpetebucsfan
That is a question that fans want to avoid, almost more than “how will the bucs fix from being the most penalized team in the NFL”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The answer you will hear, will be “We are taking a wait and see approach”!!!!!!!!! But if no college games are run, due to “liability”, then what you will start to hear, will be plans for “several senior bowls” were all nfl teams will attend ran by the nfl by invitation from the nfl!!!!!!! Especially the week of practice!!!!!!!!!
Remember, that while college football would start in just a short couple of months, senior bowl and scouting combine is over 9 months away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the no excuses of no-excuses years”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s time to herd the sheep, and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 18th, 2020 at 5:42 pm
Just saw the Chancellor of the California State University system and they have cancelled live classes for the fall today and they are moving it all to virtual learning for the Fall.
When he was asked about football he said no decision has been made about any intercollegiate athletics. Considering the Pros have made up their minds already not sure this bodes well for a College Football season.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:45 pm
After further review Vaughn was definitely the best overall back at that point of the draft.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:49 pm
Winfield could turn out to be a Evans type of bust. And Vaughn could turn out to be the best back in this draft. You never know. Until they play a couple years none of us know what we have. But I like the instincts and nose for the ball I see in Winfield. And I like that Vaughn runs like Pittman just see the hole and hit it as fast as he can. You just see a run up the middle and you think 2nd and 8 and like Pittman your like damn he got six there. I don’t know about the rest of you but we have seen to many dancing in the backfield runningbacks around here than I can probably remember. it will nice to see a guy just go like barber did but actually have some speed. I always said if barber ran a 4.4 he would have been a 1,000 yard back. Cause all his 6 yard runs would be 8-12. And that’s what Vaughn is steady positive yards type of runner. Then before you know it he has 18 for 103 and your like what I didn’t realize he had that many yards.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:51 pm
@stpeptbicsfan: but that is California, land of fruit and nuts.
I doubt there will be canceled games in the SE-by God-C.
In two months all this crap will be nearly forgotten.
May 18th, 2020 at 5:56 pm
80,000 dead people…er in two months waay over 100,000 dead people should simply be forgotten and written off?
The second part of that question. Do we care about the next 75,000-100,000 or is it all just a bunch of made up crap not worth worrying about?
May 18th, 2020 at 6:08 pm
Jason Licht is a garbage GM and he will always have a defense for his bs picks that make no sense 80% of the time. They had the Hard Knocks bucs season on yesterday and he has just built a horrible franchise as GM. I hope that Brady has something left in the tank for 2 more years and the bucs make deep playoff runs; the ucs need a GM like the ravens, titans, eagles, pats, saints that have built sustainable teams that are not one hit wonders. This year is a loss if no playoffs and licht needs to go packing with his continual bad FA and draft picks
May 18th, 2020 at 6:22 pm
@stpetebicsfans: I am an educated, rational human, well-schooled in math and stats, skeptical about what anyone tells me unto proven, and pay close attention to events.
I do NOT believe the numbers put out by the CDC, nor does Dr. Birx. Those death numbers are grossly overcounted for several reasons, and the number of infections is a complete unknown.
I am not a sheeple. Just don’t expect me to be one, too.
This virus has become political.
I will go on record as saying two months from now we will have forgotten about the overblown hysteria of this virus, and the NFL will have a season.
Already GA is opening up well and the numbers are declining sharply, despite the howling fearmongers predicting increased death and destruction, with the gubernator having “blood on his hands.”
May 18th, 2020 at 6:43 pm
It’s funny to watch someone call everyone sheep and act like it is his own personal attract on fans. But I guess you forgot. Many of us have been here a long time. It is a crying shame you had to get it from a better poster than you. Remember he call us all “sheep”5/24/2011.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:06 pm
Little bo peep, lost her sheep again? So sad. Maybe they grew tired of all exclamation points and Bulls** preceding them.
Drafting with purpose and a plan. All he’s doing now is fetching groceries for the HC. Great coaching will make him look good, to the chagrin of many-a-poster in these parts.
Go Bucs!
In BA I Trust!
May 18th, 2020 at 7:12 pm
Cam can’t catch???
May 18th, 2020 at 7:15 pm
“I do NOT believe the numbers put out by the CDC, nor does Dr. Birx.”
I really don’t care about what you believe Cobra. You claiming math skill is hardly proof of math skill or knowledge of epidemiology.
I haven’t read that about Dr. Birx. Although perhaps she is like the VAST MAJORITY of experts who believe the numbers are off…but on the low side because of all the people who died at home without going to the hospital or having any kind of autopsy.
I would expect someone like you who is well educated and “pays close attention” to events know that.
And yes it is political because our leader has made it that way. We can work out way out of this mess with emotion and politics…not very well…or using our brains and science and TRULY PAYING ATTENTION.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:18 pm
@DBS
As I long time member myself, I am saddened that your memory is fading!!!!!!!!!! I dare you to find anyone on this board that has paid more homage to the great commenting pillars of this great website!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just to “refresh” everyone’s memory!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its time for a “REALIST REPOST”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Buc Realist Says:
July 30th, 2017 at 10:54 am
@Stpetebucsfan
I laugh in your humor!!!! But seriously, we all know who the “real” Great of all time is………..
That honor belongs to someone else!!!!!!! To the greatest JBF poster of all TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To the 7 time banned great!!!!! Thomas 2.2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 18th, 2020 at 7:24 pm
Safety was a really big need in my book. If one of the top four of those fell into my lap, I would have taken it too.
There was a big gap after Winfield, as far as safeties go. There were still plenty of RBs that weren’t a lot worse than any other.
I think the offense will do great with Vaughn and RoJo, the line and QB will make it happen.
The NFL will be really careful when the season starts. The schedule is such that games might happen without fans, just the TV revenue stream, which is pretty nice. It is another thing we have to wait to see.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:29 pm
@Stpetebucsfan
I am confused. Are you advocating for no sports because of Covid19?
The best changes we can make all revolve around protecting our elderly, especially those in assisted living.
Yet i believe that medical science suggests that even when there is a vaccine and better treatment that it is only going to be 20 or 30 percent effective on those of us at the highest risk. (Example a recent CDC report on the flu during the 2017-2018 flu season estimated the vaccine that year saved about 8000 lives but still over 70,000 people died from flu complications that year). So yes I believe we will have more than 300,000 deaths in the U.S. in the next 2 years from this highly contagious virus based upon how I read the math and the effect Covid 19 will have on the very elderly compromised community.
But don’t ignore the social sciences either. In Florida only 15 people from age 0 to 34 have died. That is 1 person in 566,000 in that Florida age demographic. There are reasons like education, jobs, unemployment, increased homeless, increased crime, loss of government social programs like social security that have to be considered in staying shut.
The social sciences are not areas that Dr. Fauci and other immunologists have studied. So their perspective is limited to their field of expertise. Their job focused experience says wash all the time and physical distancing works for virus control. Their back ground does not help in suicide prevention, loss of job depression, loss of income, providing goods to one’s family, and many other needs.
It will be good for our future if those 0 to 34 year olds have a sense of purpose and aren’t out of work for 6 months, or totally destitute.
That is why every country is opening up again. Because you cannot make it just about the fatalties. Where the sweetest decision spot is… Is unknown to me…
But getting many things back to some normalcy is good for us as well.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:32 pm
Guarantee you that if Clyde was still there in the 2nd for us, he wouldve been the pick….I HATE YOU KC!! lol. They’re going to be a beast again this year.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:33 pm
If Winfield is solid at safety for a number of years then we’ll be happy we took him. You can’t evaluate a draft until years after the draft. Anyone thinks otherwise is a fool. Lord knows this board is full of fools
May 18th, 2020 at 7:38 pm
@ Realisto. I still laugh at you using his saying acting like it is yours. No more needs to bee said.
May 18th, 2020 at 7:40 pm
^be
May 18th, 2020 at 7:57 pm
I’m excited about Tyler Johnson as well, with him, Watson and miller going for the 3rd, going to have a hell of a wr core. This draft was fine, Bucs are gonna be alright haha
May 18th, 2020 at 8:06 pm
I saw a review of Cam Akers. He was rated 10th in a field of 10. The biggest knocks on him were he lacked vision, took everything outside even when it is not there, and could not break tackles. When he gets hit, he goes down. Dobbins was rated #3. Vaughn not in the top 10. However, the reviewer thought no one was first round talent, and that better value was in the third and fourth, maybe even lower rounds. So a RB in the second my hve been high anyway.
May 18th, 2020 at 8:30 pm
Jake Arians must be an idiot if he’s comparing JK Dobbins to Ronald Jones. Dobbins is a legitimate 2,000 yds a year rusher. Jones couldn’t carry his jock.
May 18th, 2020 at 8:35 pm
St Pete
If you choose and stand by your politics and news sources the same way that you choose and stand by your sports teams then I can understand your opinion. I don’t agree.
But I understand. I see a lot of that all over the country, for both parties.
I prefer to keep an open mind and discern the truth not by what I am told, but by what makes sense. I mean, they’re even trying to link climate change to “the sickness” in any way they can, SMH.
I reserve the blind following for my fandom of the Buc’s.
And even then, I don’t readily agree with every decision. But I don’t pull my hair out for what is, realistically, a game, and entertainment
May 18th, 2020 at 8:43 pm
So that Ohio state line was a huge reason for Dobbins 2,000 yards. Not because he is that good.
May 18th, 2020 at 8:54 pm
The dilemma we face is quite simple…….we are faced with giving up basic freedoms we have always had in order to assure the good health of others. And we’d prefer to make those decisions ourselves instead of letting others make them for us.
This will be solved when there is a treatment that will reduce this to a flu-like virus. Until then, we will be in conflict.
May 18th, 2020 at 8:55 pm
Pretty sure rojo can catch everytime the ball was throw to him
May 18th, 2020 at 9:52 pm
GP
I have a variety of sources. I do not stick by any until I see a consensus among people who are educated in the subject matter they are discussing.
I am a skeptic but not a cynic.
A skeptic doesn’t believe anything without strong reasons, which is why it is also associated with doubt, especially when something hasn’t been experienced yet. Cynicism is believing the worst of something or someone. … A cynic believes that people are selfish and always act out of self-interest.
And when that cynic is like our current leader that attitude would be classified as projection.
May 18th, 2020 at 9:59 pm
Just keep in mind , folks-
Borrowing trillions + 20% unemployment + continued lockdowns = End of the Life we once knew., Virus or no Virus
May 18th, 2020 at 10:11 pm
NE punted 81 times last year compared to Bucs 57 times. The Bucs were also better on 3rd and 4th down conversions. Some people think the offense is going to get more plays need to take this into consideration when thinking just because Brady had less turnovers. A punt is a turnover too just with better field position.
May 18th, 2020 at 10:41 pm
St Pete
I have no desire to get into a “discussion” regarding politics with you but I must point out that your stated opinions of our President reflect the “opinions” of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, and NPR (forgive me if I left any out). None of whom have to my Knowledge, ever supported a conservative or anyone with an “R” behind their name, period. I guess *that* is a concensus of sorts but doesn’t reflect balance. (bias)
Dr Birx (not sure if that is the correct spelling) is concerned that Covid deaths have been over reported by including any death where there is a positive test even if completely unrelated to the death. eg. A man falls 3 stories to his death after testing positive for Covid. Did the virus kill him or the sudden impact?
Your lack of knowledge of her concerns tell me where you are getting your news as they are not even mentioning her concerns because it does not fit their narrative.
I have friends on both sides of the aisle. (as well as “outside” points of view)
All are aware that I will not accept such a weak argument.
Be honest with yourself and look at the statements you have posted about “our leader” The President and tell me again, who is being cynical.
You are smarter than this sir.
May 18th, 2020 at 10:49 pm
We punted less times in part due to more turnovers……
May 18th, 2020 at 10:57 pm
@stpetebucsfan: if you have never heard Dr. Brix seriously criticize the CDC’s numbers, that just means you are uninformed. You being uninformed is not my problem; it is yours.
May 18th, 2020 at 11:03 pm
Joe
I apologize for my posts to St Pete on this thread and completely understand why my last post is in moderation.
St Pete
I apologize for calling you out on this. It is not my norm.
My only defense is that I feel that you are worth the trouble.
I have no desire or expectation of changing your beliefs. Just your way of presenting them.
Again, you are smarter than this sir
May 18th, 2020 at 11:08 pm
Anyway can we not talk about the virus in here….pls?
Yeah that whole “not punting thing” is due to more tunrovers. How much better would the team have been if on every turnover inside the 35 yard line was a punt.
Lets see NE 87+8INTs is 95, 57 punts + 30 INTs (not including fumbles btw) is 87
May 18th, 2020 at 11:09 pm
My bad Joes,
Can we not talk about the you know what in here….pls?
Yeah that whole “not punting thing” is due to more tunrovers. How much better would the team have been if on every turnover inside the 35 yard line was a punt.
Lets see NE 87+8INTs is 95, 57 punts + 30 INTs (not including fumbles btw) is 87
May 19th, 2020 at 12:13 am
No one ever mentions Vaughn. He’s everything Brady needs if he can come through. Broke an SEC school record for rushing in two years.
May 19th, 2020 at 6:02 am
The Bucs drafted well, IMO. Of course time will tell.
Good discussions in here but I can’t help but point out the blatant political bias of a non-political issue by some. Whether you realize it or not, both sides parrot what they see and hear. It’s actually alarming, yet expected.
Expect more. Remember the “Golden Rule”. Treat others as you wish to be treated. Walk in their shoes.
Media is there to sell soap!
Now, about this Vaughn kid.
May 19th, 2020 at 6:19 am
At Pete Bucs Fan is the N dog of politics and the Chinese Wuhan Virus.
May 19th, 2020 at 6:24 am
Let me guess Joe- you’re not allowed to put NDOG in any posts even though it is someone’s handle. Same went for that idiot TMAXCON. Why is this? Why allow someone to have a posting name if it’s so controversial it has to be moderated?
May 19th, 2020 at 7:03 am
Lol Wirfs and AWJ are Day 1 starters so that’s a wrap there. If you’re not sold on Vaughn watch his highlights! Dude broke some huge runs, has soft has soft hands and most importantly doesn’t fumble! That’s the most important trait a back can have in the offense Brady likes to run. I mean obviously we would love to have a RB like a McCaffrey or Marshal Faulk who can run routes like a WR but these are very rare players. What you want is a guy who is smart, who has homer in speed who runs north and south and doesn’t put the ball on the ground. Zach Moss was on the board who has more wiggle but doesn’t have the extra gear Vaughn does. Moss has NFL pedigree but will get run down a lot. Vaughn has effortless speed and will break some big ones for us.
Dobbins and Taylor are more explosive but both fumble a lot more with their style. Yes, if CEH is there in the 2nd we would have taken him I’m sure. He brings 3 round physical traits but 1st round heart and determination. He’s going to be a handful in Andy Reid’s offense.
Tyler Johnson plays like a slightly shorter Marques Colston, he gets immediate separation and has incredible spatial awareness. He feels the coverage and splits it so efficiently just watch his highlights. The only concern is his drops. As long as he keeps his focus and earns Brady’s trust he will be a force! He will be a lethal 3-down weapon and could get 50 targets easily. Again keep an eye on his training camp drops.
Khalil Davis brings tremendous athleticism to the DL for pass rushing dub-packages. His short arms and inability to get off blocks are liabilities and the reason he’s there in the 5th round, But I have no doubt our vets will work with him and he will cause major disruptions in stunts and has 5-7 sack potential as a rotational player. He’s exactly what we needed.
This draft was weak in pass rushers so we need to sign one more veteran pass rusher for some rotational depth. Clay Matthews would be absolutely perfect.
May 19th, 2020 at 7:17 am
Hey Cobraboy, you say you are a “well-schooled in math” person. So as you say that can you please tell me how many test have been done across our 325,000,000 United states citizenry? Would you as a well schooled math person not need to know how many people have it before you could say, come to any conclusions as to how many have had it, and how many have contracted it now and a actual number of how many have died from this that were tested. Because as you know if you dont know who has died from this, or who has had it, and gotten over it and who has it now, we can never truly know what type of numbers of citizens have this. It sure does make for a difficult personal decisions time to be hanging out with 30,000+ fans on a Saturday or Sunday. I am a fan of both College and Pro Football. If we do not make a major push to at least get 50+% of population tested, how can we ever have any idea if this will pass, or just be passed around and around. All for opening back up and getting people to work. Not all for doing it blind. Hope you and yours stay safe in all this.
Go Bucs!
May 19th, 2020 at 7:59 am
Tampabuscsbro Says:
May 18th, 2020 at 8:43 pm
So that Ohio state line was a huge reason for Dobbins 2,000 yards. Not because he is that good.
Sorry bucsbro, but you are flat out WRONG with that statement!
Sure the Buckeyes had a good Oline…..but Dobbins ranked 4th in all of college football last year with over 1,200 yards rushing AFTER CONTACT! Dobbins gained more yds AFTER CONTACT than KeShawn Vaughn did all season!
For his OSU career, Dobbins averaged 6.4 yards every time he touched the ball, and 3.5 yards AFTER contact! I doubt Ronald Jones even has a 3.5 yd average….let alone 6.4!
In Dobbins 3 year OSU career….5,100 total yds from scrimmage! 71 receptions, and 43 touchdowns. 6.1 yds rushing avg.
I doubt Jones or Vaughn will EVER come close to those types of numbers! Passing on Dobbins in the second round was as big a mistake as taking Aguayo in the second a few years ago! I think the Bucs will rue this decision!
May 19th, 2020 at 8:56 am
Yes, the virus seems to be easing, but like the flu that was expected. I’m one who believes we need to get on with our lives while at least taking precautions. Hopefully we’ll have a full season of sports this year. We’ll see training camps open by August, the season will start, but what happens if it comes back in the fall, or winter twice as bad is what worries me.
May 19th, 2020 at 9:06 am
Jeagan Dobbins is a great back, no doubt, but he played on one of the best teams in college football. Vaughn was the best player on a bad team in the toughest conference in football. Ohio State was a big favorite in every game they played. Their roster is loaded with NFL talent, Vandy not so much. So ask yourself how good would Dobbins have been on Vandy, and if Vaughn rushed for over 1000yds with Vandy playing the likes of LSU, how good would he have done running for O State? My guess is his numbers would at least have been as good as Dobbins.
May 19th, 2020 at 10:00 am
80,000 Americans died from the flu in 2018.
Did you hear anything about the flu being so terrible back in 2018? No
Did they do daily death counts? No
I’m not saying that this isn’t worse than the flu.
I’m saying that the death numbers are similar but the news coverage for Covid is over the top compared to the flu.
May 19th, 2020 at 10:26 am
Oh boy! Looks like I might need to include Stpetebucsfan in my username!!
May 19th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
1987- In fairness, we know about the flu every year. This is in addition to, and without any knowledge of. I get your point though.
May 19th, 2020 at 2:59 pm
87, so there were 80k deaths from the flu in 2018? Well we are only a couple months into this pandemic and approaching 90k deaths. Projections are 150k this year and that doesn’t include the fact that everything just reopened and there are all kinds of photos of people in close contact in crowds with no face masks. This is much more contagious than the flu and there is no vaccine for it yet. There is really no comparison.
GP – just because every news source may lean to the left in your opinion doesn’t mean it is fake news. There is only one new source that is truly fake news and that is the state run media of Fox. A big part of the problem is that many rely on Fox because of confirmation bias. If people would rely on a multitude of news sources and take anything they see on Fox with a grain of salt we would have a much more informed public.
May 19th, 2020 at 5:19 pm
^^^this guy.
Which news source would you suggest? I mean, you’ve disparaged the most trusted news source in America. So please, let us know your go to source so we can all have a good laugh.
And “leans to the left?” No my man, they’ve all fallen face first to the left. Leans my azz. You’re being lied to to affect the 2020 election. If you want to cower in fear in your home, do so. But don’t let your own confirmation bias lead you to believe you will make our choices for us. This virus is here to stay, it’s just a matter of when you get it, like all other viruses. Intelligent design allows the immune system to adapt once exposed.
By the way, somebody crashed head first into a concrete barrier and died today. Cause of death- Wuhan virus. Ponder that next time you trumpet death tolls.
May 19th, 2020 at 5:22 pm
Let me guess- you voted for the guy they found in the hotel with a male escort, an overdosed drug addict, and crystal meth. Oh, and his wife wasn’t there.
Don’t tell me you trust the news sources who endorsed that guy.
May 19th, 2020 at 5:25 pm
There is no flu vaccine either buddy. There will likely be no vaccine for Wuhan flu.
Hey joe, why did you delete my posts?
May 19th, 2020 at 11:59 pm
BB
Thanks for the correction.
I left Fox out of the list.
I consider them to be biased as well but at least they give a little balance to the others.
It is not so much the left or right lean that bothers me as the information that is left out of the reporting.
BTW, I can usually discern what is being reported and by who just by perusing this blog.
Just sayin