Teams Wanted 49ers’ Pick
April 23rd, 2020
Bucs GM Jason Licht.
Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager spelled it out simply: The Bucs didn’t want to trade up one spot.
However, Licht had intel from earlier this week that teams were wanting to trade up with San Francisco for the No. 13 pick.
And Licht knew teams wanted offensive lineman Tristan Wirfs.
When Wirfs was on the board at No. 13, 49ers shot-caller John Lynch was flooded with calls, many wanting Wirfs, Licht said.
It was a sellers’ market for Lynch and Licht, just one slot behind at No. 14, knew he had to bring some heat if he wanted to grab Wirfs.
“Sometimes you have to look — if you have to give up a fourth, what were you going to get in the fourth round?” Licht said. “Hopefully, we are going to get a great player [in Wirfs].
“But to ensure we get the player that we love… I think it was well worth it. We felt like it was still worth it.
“We felt like we hit a home run.”
Licht noted other NFL teams were fighting over each other to get to Lynch’s No. 13 pick.
“Haggling had been going on for a few days,” Licht said.
Licht did not rule out wheeling and dealing later in the draft to get back some picks.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:43 pm
I’m surprised people are questioning this–it seemed obvious that the 49ers had another option for the pick. Good work, Bucs.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:44 pm
This was a good pick and good move to go up and get your guy.
Cost was a player like Ryan Smith. Think about it.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:44 pm
Exactly what I suspected. Why else would he have traded up one spot, makes perfect sense and Wirfs was worth giving up that 4th!! Well done Sir.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:45 pm
It was def a home run hitting move…
NOW GO GET CLYDE!!!!!!!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:45 pm
Dolphins obviously. They took the OT from USC a couple picks later. Pretty clear they were trying to make a move.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:45 pm
it’s otay……said buckwheat
🙂
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:46 pm
If anything, Licht giving up a 4th round pick puts more pressure on him to do well the rest of the draft. Especially rounds 2 and 3.
DO NOT screw this up Licht.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:46 pm
Look who Miami took with their next pick….i mean, I had Josh Jones graded above Jackson.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:47 pm
Licht did what he had to do to insure he got their man. kudos JL
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:47 pm
Yeah what do people think. Licht just decided to trade up one spot for the hell of it?
And I tell you this……..There would be way more crying and whining had we not made the trade and seen somebody leap in front of us and take Wirfs………It’s a lose/lose scenario.
Meanwhile what matters most is if this Works guy can handle his new job. That’s what matters. Y’all worried about the wrong crap.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:48 pm
Smart move, Licht got his man. Wirfs was rated as the number 1 tackle in a lot websites. I just can’t believe he dropped to 13 and we were able to get a quality Tackle that can play either RT or LT. As far as giving up a fourth to lock out other teams, Lynch did us a solid.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:48 pm
Ppl complaining about the trade/pick?…. we had a hole at rt. We just filled it. Still so much draft left. Let things come to you before thinking the sky is falling!
If this post offends you, then this was directed to you!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:48 pm
It happened in the 2012 draft. Everyone and their brother knew we wanted Morris Claiborne, we traded from 5th to 7th for just an extra 4th rounder (Thanks Popstar Dominik), and the cowbows sniped Morris Claiborne at number 6.
Everyone and their brother knew TB was going to get an OT to replace Dotson. So it is entirely believable that there were teams that wanted to wait right until 13 to try to snipe one of the big 4 Offensive Tackles this draft.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:48 pm
DB
RB
Rounds 2+3, thats it.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:48 pm
And I’m gonna type Wirfs everyday til my phone figures it out.
GO Wirfs!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:49 pm
2nd round QB Jacob Eason
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:50 pm
Why can’t you take me off moderation Joe?
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:50 pm
But our local armchair GM’s know everything going on behind the scenes.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:52 pm
Jean, the Bucs are going all in this year, drafting a QB makes 0 sense right now.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:53 pm
@Joe,
Do u know what we got in return? In Lichts video conference he made reference to getting a pick from the 49ers but they didn’t ask him what pick he got!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 pm
2nd RB. Taylor!!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 pm
BRING IT BACK TO TAMPA LYNCH!!!
49’s vs Bucs Super Bowl 2021
GO BUCS!!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 pm
Which RB will be there in round 2 is the question.
Swift
Helaire
Taylor
Akers
Dobbins -Not sold on him.
I think the rest will be very good.
I think Swift will be awesome.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:55 pm
Cool with me. This guy was projected to go top 10 by a lot of folks, so it’s all good and we filled a huge need. Gotta get that running back now.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:57 pm
I really haven’t seen many at all who have a problem with the trade-up…….except perhaps Joe…..who says we “dumped” both of our 4th round picks……
We got Wirfs, Gronk & 2 7th rounders……..I’m pretty happy with that…
Now, if we can figure out where to get the $10 mil…..for Gronk
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:57 pm
Bucs won the draft tonight !! Give it a few days for all you haters to let it sink in. The arguably best RT/LT in the draft at pick 13 and a fourth. A+
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:58 pm
They might go quarterback to sit behind Brady in round four or five, if they get a fourth rounder again, maybe for OJ.
But not on the 2nd!
If they think he may go, I would not mind them taking Jake Fromme in rd 3. He’s smart and accurate and can learn a lot sitting behind Brady for a year or two.
I think they go after someone for defense though
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:58 pm
“Teams wanted 49ers Pick” … Hey thats the same headline that ran in the Chicago papers after the bears gave up a lot to get up 1 spot to the 49ers. John lynch is a master! With that said, we got a guy we wanted and he should be good, so all is good.
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:59 pm
Tbbucs3 Says:
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:52 pm
Jean, the Bucs are going all in this year, drafting a QB makes 0 sense right now.
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Jacob Eason is the perfect candidate to sit and learn behind Brady for two seasons.
They can get their RB in round 3
April 23rd, 2020 at 10:59 pm
Way to panic Jason.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:00 pm
Jean, that would be the dumbest move in the draft. Hoping CEH is still available in the 2nd but no way in hell use a 2nd rounder to reach for a future back up QB.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:00 pm
You all know how negotiations work right? It is conceivable that the phone wasn’t ringing quite as much as you all think it was in the Niners war room and Lynch simply bluffed Licht as well, or at least got him to significantly overpay.
Again, I’m very fond of the pick, but giving up a 4th round pick to move up from 14 to 13 is ludicrous.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:01 pm
or even use their new 7th round picks to move back into the second for a RB
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:01 pm
I have NO DOUBT that Lynch, who played the same Jedi trick on Ryan Pace and moved down one slot in 2017 had offers for the 13th pick. I also have NO DOUBT that the offers weren’t sweet enough for Lynch to give up on the only other DT rated in the top half of the first round in Kinlaw.
Which GM do you think maximized their leverage in the draft today, NFC Champion John Lynch or 0-6 in making the playoffs Jason Licht?
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:01 pm
Hamsadwitchtime
“2nd RB. Taylor!!!”
Very much agreed. He’s gonna bust it out with this huge addition to the oline.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:03 pm
COuldn’t make out what Licht said. Waiting for the official info.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:04 pm
Let me get this straight … The Bucs
1. Resigned the DL
2. Signed Brady
3. Signed Gronkowski (WTH?)
4. Landed the 1-2 RT in the draft
This offseason is ridiculous!!!
Go land a stud RB in the 2nd. Hell, trade your 5, 6, and both 7s to get it done. Find a badass S in the third and this offseason is absurd!!!
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:04 pm
Tom S….
Way to be subtle with your negativity.
Two fourth round picks are gone and they have a healthy Gronk
And a man beast of an tackle to show for it.
I said they did pretty damn good.
I also think you’re nuts if you don’t think more than just Miami were looking to trade up to get that kid, he was ranked one of the top three tackles almost everywhere. They were lucky
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:05 pm
I am sure Lynch’s Tampa ties went a long way making this deal happen.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:07 pm
541….
Exactly!!
And hell, to be honest, I was pissed they traded and got Gronk. I was never a fan because I think he’s a moron and acts like an idiot.
But,… If Brady wanted him and he’s healthy, I’ll take his talent for fourth rounder all day.
Now get that running back in round two and trade OJ Howard for a fourth
OR trade him to move up to get the running back they want
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:07 pm
The Bucs moved up just one selection and packaged the Nos. 14 overall and 117th overall picks (fourth round) with the San Francisco 49ers for the Nos. 13 and 245th overall (seventh round) selections.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:08 pm
It is also possible that SF wanted Kinlaw and trading with Miami or someone else would have the Bucs probably taking Kinlaw at 14…..so moving down only one slot assured him…..
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:16 pm
Jacob Eason stinks
There’s a reason 4 QBs will be taken before him and a reason why he got ran out of Georiga for noodle arm Fromm.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:28 pm
Miami was surely one of the teams trying to get Wirfs. Went Austin Jackson a few picks later. Lynch did the Bucs a solid.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:29 pm
JL did what had to be done, he was smart to get this done. Hopefully he can trade OJ tomorrow.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:32 pm
I would gladly take Fromme from Georgia in round 3.
He’s very accurate and very smart. Learning from Brady for two years would be awesome.
For you calling him a noodle arm, who cares.
Smarts and accuracy are what matter. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady never had the strongest arms. It’s about being smart and reading defenses. If you can think a half second quicker then you don’t need to squeeze it in somewhere you shouldn’t be.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:34 pm
SOE
49ers vs Bucs in the Super Bowl huh?
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:40 pm
David, if Lynch had a great offer to trade down do you honestly think he would have been stopped from taking it because of a 4th round pick?? Does it not help you understand that Lynch did this exact same type of trade only a few years ago when dropping 1 pick is incredibly rare?
There were 4 OT’s to get in the first round and Wirfs is a great athlete but his functional use of it isn’t quite like what you see on film from someone like Becton. Hopefully he pans out, but trading up one spot in the first round is an elite club that I can think of only Ryan Pace and Jason Licht belong in.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:41 pm
Tampabaybucfan: What you said makes a lot of sense. Win win for both teams. Now go get a RB in rd 2 (Dobbins Akers, Swift or Helaire). No Taylor. Or double up with OL.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:49 pm
Sorry, Tom S., but you’re an idiot. You obviously haven’t watched the draft for many years. This type of stuff happens all the time.
When a team has an obvious massive need like the Bucs did… the entire league knew they were probably going OT in the 1st round to protect Brady and help replace Dotson, combined with one of the top OTs (#1 ranked OT by some analysts) dropping to the pick before the Bucs, it’s obvious that any team that valued Wirfs could try and move ahead of the Bucs to steal him.
This was proven by the Dolphins taking a much worst OT a few picks later. Hell, search Twitter… an NFL analyst posted that the Dolphins were actively trying to trade up with the 49ers to grab Wirfs ahead of the Bucs before the 49ers were even on the clock because they knew the Raiders were going WR.
Giving up a measily 4th rounder (where most players rarely pan out) to go and get one of the top rated players in the draft at your BIGGEST NEED… that’s what we call a NO BRAINER.
Quit being such a Negative Nancy. Seriously. Crying about this like the Bucs got fleeced by Lynch IS ABSURD.
If you would have told Licht before the draft that he could have Wirfs for the 14th pick and their 4th rounder he would have done that trade in a milisecond.
QUIT YER CRYIN.
April 23rd, 2020 at 11:52 pm
Fromm is an undersized game manager. He does not fit in BA offense.
The Bucs in rounds 2+3 shouldn’t take anybody but a RB and a Safety.
April 24th, 2020 at 12:30 am
Welcome back Ivan the fraudulent insider! Didn’t you swear the Bucs should have taken a RB at 14 only a few weeks ago saying no RB will be available for them in Rd 2? Didn’t I say that at most 1 RB would be taken in the first round and a top 5 RB (or two) will likely be available at 45? Why yes, yes I did!
Who TF calls themselves and insider and then gives the worst advice ever. Why it’s Ivan the fraudelent insider.
You wanted the Bucs to take a RB at 14 you fraud. Own it.
April 24th, 2020 at 12:35 am
I don’t mind using the 4th to get the guy they wanted. But damn, CEH to the chiefs. I’m heartbroken lol. Maybe Swift will fall but I expect a run on RBs early on in the 2nd. Winfield would be a steal at 45 as well. He would give us a game changing ball hawk safety. But, I really really wanted CEH. More than any player in this draft.
April 24th, 2020 at 12:45 am
Ivan The Insider Says:
April 19th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
David,
It’s actually very unlikely that one of the Top 5 backs is still on the board at #45.
At least one (Swift or Taylor) will be taken in Round 1. Very possibly both.
If both, that leaves 3 backs to make it through 12 other picks; all spots that know the Bucs are desperate for a RB at #45. We see runs on RBs in the top of the 2nd round every recent draft.
It’s very likely that the #3, #4, and #5th ranked backs are taken in those top 12 picks of the 2nd round. Leaving the Bucs with #6 ranked back or worse.
Any back outside of the top 1 or 2 is a massive gamble. The odds of finding a game-changer are less and less likely. When you’re “ALL IN” like the Bucs are with Brady, you don’t have the luxury of hoping a “RB Gamble” taken later happens to be a guy that turns into a stud.
When you absolutely need a stud RB you have to just go and draft one. That means doing it in the 1st round.
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Look at that genius call it. I believe he promised us that Swift, Taylor or both will be taken in Rd 1. The fraudulent insider managed to whiff, as both are available in Rd 2. Good call Ivan. You’re predictions truly show how much “inside” information you possess (none).
April 24th, 2020 at 1:35 am
Hoping the value is there to go..
Rd 2: RB
Rd 3: DLine
Rd 5: Rcvr
Rd 6: OLine
Rd 7: Safety
April 24th, 2020 at 2:01 am
I have been wanting to replace Dotson for a couple years. He was just not getting the job done enough. Now we have our starter, possibly an elite one. It was worth giving up a 4th.
Oline is done in the draft. Anyone else we can get undrafted for depth. Maybe strike gold.
As to round two, I’m hoping for QB, RB or Safety.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:04 am
Bucs got Duped and spent. Lynch put the word out he was going for one of the top 4 tackles as bait. We bit. Losing a 4th rder was stupid.
April 24th, 2020 at 2:06 am
Tbbucs3 Says
“Jacob Eason stinks”
Considering the same thing was said about our current starter, I won’t take your word for it. I checked him out some…I saw a lot of Brady-like things. If he can be mentored, I’m all for us getting him.
However…
…if we take a QB, I think it will more likely be Nate Stanley later. I would love Eason though. Or bring back Winston 😛
April 24th, 2020 at 2:06 am
@Mike Johnson
Not even close.
April 24th, 2020 at 4:26 am
There had been plausible rumors of the Bucs moving up to get this guy. He was projected much higher than 14. If this had been a scenario where the Bucs moved up into the top 5 for him, it would have cost more than the 4th round pick. I think this played out with some fairly good luck, and if Lynch played shenanigans for an extra 4th, that’s sh*tty, but still.. not a horrible price to pay for the certainty.
And, I think the Bucs have three 7th round picks now. Some combination of those could be leveraged toward other moves in more critical rounds?
April 24th, 2020 at 7:11 am
FAKE NEWS Joe!!! So you’re screaming fake news at Joe but you need to drop an “in other words” to translate Licht. Joe goes deeper on all sides of this in the new Ira Kaufman Podcast. –Joe. That’s not what Licht said. He said they didn”t want to take a chance. In othet words – he was scared. There was no intel. Bucs got Trubinsky’ed by the 49ers. Bucs would have got him at 14.
April 24th, 2020 at 8:35 am
Clyde Helaire was already drafted
April 24th, 2020 at 9:39 am
Great move, great trade! I am sure that other teams wanted the 49’ers pick. I’m also suspect the 49ers wanted Kinlaw or Wirfs. So this was a great deal for BOTH teams. Bucs get their man. 49ers get extra pick they wanted and assure they get Kinlaw. This is the essence of a good/fair trade… when both sides get what they want. No fleecing here. Bucs needed A tackle, got a good one. 49ers had a popular pick at 13 that other teams wanted, but may have only liked Wirf and Kinlaw, so if they traded, they risked loosing both. They almost had to make the trade that Tampa offered!
April 24th, 2020 at 10:37 am
Sounds to me like Lynch did his old team a favor!!! I wonder what other teams were offering?? Did Lynch take a worse deal so he could help the bucs?? That is not out of the question!!