Report: Bucs Aiming To Trade Up
April 13th, 2020
“Look Dave Caldwell, you can build your offense around Dare Ogunbowale. He’s a true every-down back. He will make you forget Leonard Fournette. Seriously.”
It seems there truly is a win-now mentality at One Buc Palace.
Albert Breer, lead NFL columnist for Sports Illustrated, a guy easily worth more than $350,000 a year, in Joe’s eyes has met or perhaps surpassed Peter King as the top NFL columnist in the land. Unlike King, Breer doesn’t ignore college football and its importance to the NFL. Breer also doesn’t force baseball stories into his weekly NFL column.
So in calling around and doing research for the draft, Breer noticed Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht is calling teams higher up the draft ladder in next week’s draft, trying to find out what kind of ransom they seek to obtain their pick.
And per Breer, the Bucs want to trade up to grab an offensive tackle.
O.K., so who is looking at trading up? Three teams that seem to be investigating it pretty pointedly: Tampa, Denver and Atlanta. The Bucs and Broncos, I’ve heard, could be going up for one of the top four linemen (Becton, Jedrick Wills, Tristan Wirfs and Andrew Thomas), making Jacksonville’s slot, at No. 9, a potential hotspot, given the needs the Browns and Jets have at 10 and 11. It’s not as clear what the Falcons would be pursuing, though GM Thomas Dimitroff has always, in the past, been more proactive than most in looking at the option of moving up.
Joe is just going to guess — strictly spitballing here — the Bucs may offer a first this year, a second next year and perhaps throw in a player or two.
Breer’s intel also suggests Licht doesn’t believe the top four offensive tackles will be on the board when the Bucs are on the clock.
This is the fun news. … Now the gut punch: If the Bucs have to give up a second round pick this year in order to trade up, presumably, with no other trading, the Bucs won’t be able to draft a running back until the third round at the earliest.
Would Cam Akers still be available?
April 13th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Depends how much better they are than Austin Jackson, or Josh Jones.
April 13th, 2020 at 9:47 am
Like I’ve said many times on here no future considerations, expectation is Super Bowl championship or colossal failure!
April 13th, 2020 at 9:48 am
Move up for Tua and let him sit for 2 years. Sign Trent Williams off waivers to play RT. Find your future OT next year and draft DL depth this year. This would give us stability at the QB spot like Green Bay when they had Favre and Rodgers. The QB position is important enough to take that risk this year!
April 13th, 2020 at 9:49 am
SOP…this time of year….IMO there is NO OT worth trading up for….not saying they are not worth drafting before the Bucs pick…just not worth trading up for….in case you have forgotten the roster has many holes and question marks, which is what the draft is for
April 13th, 2020 at 9:54 am
Since we have a uber small scouting staff we don’t find hidden gems.
There are guys that you can find if u have a proper staff and then u dig.
April 13th, 2020 at 9:56 am
“Trade down 100%
Teams going to give alot for 3rd best reciever left (Henry Ruggs) which is exactly where Tampa pick is at
Tampa can get a extra 2nd round pick and only drop back 5 spots”
Kobe Faker
April 13th, 2020 at 9:57 am
I would only trade up if one of the top 5 start sliding into the top 10. It would have to be one of the top QB’s or OL/ like Tua or Wirf’s.
April 13th, 2020 at 9:59 am
Stay at 14 a quality player of need will be there.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:06 am
Jason Licht has NEVER traded a player in the draft.
So far as I can remember, neither have the Bucs, but I might be wrong about that.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:06 am
Sit tight, if the right tackle falls grab him; otherwise trade back and pick up some ammo.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:08 am
What happened to tmax? I haven’t seen him posting on here since I been back for few weeks.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:11 am
AlteredEgo Says
“…in case you have forgotten the roster has many holes and question marks.”
I agree that we shouldn’t trade up, but your use of the words ‘many holes’ might be off. What do we really need?
• Offensive Tackle (R)
• Safety
• Running Back
• Quarterback (to be mentored)
Outside of that? This year is set. It wouldn’t hurt to get an extra DT, Edges rusher or Wide Receiver, but they are not holes at present.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:12 am
Unless there is a special outstanding player at a much needed position which is rare, I am against trading up for any player other than QB… Especially from the mid teens into the top 10.. way to much risk compromising the future for the present and likely fail both…
April 13th, 2020 at 10:12 am
Trade down, take a RB in 1st round, then take 2 OLinemen in 2nd
April 13th, 2020 at 10:13 am
Do not trade up. Period.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:13 am
I say stay where we are at, or trade down a couple spots in order to gain ammo to trade back into the bottom of the first round.
Get our OT, then come back for a QB (who will get a 5 year contract as a result, which is good since the first 2 years he will be a bench warmer).
April 13th, 2020 at 10:14 am
They’re calling to see what the cost is to determine what they can ask of teams trying to call them to trade up, to maximize your return and hold another teams bluff. Its called due diligence people. How do you determine your own picks market value if you haven’t determined those ahead of you? It also may give intel into who may be willing to trade up ahead of them and who’s willing to trade. There is alot to learn from making these calls so though its newsworthy, it could mean everything and absolutely nothing at the same time. I don’t see it happening myself at all!! Though I would love the acquisition of a Trent Williams!!
April 13th, 2020 at 10:14 am
Why are so many people against trading up to get a great O line prospect?
We need one and need to make sure we get one on that line.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:14 am
If licht had a clue as a decent scout or personnel guy or scout he would have built this team from the inside out and had solid LTs ,RTs and a RB already on the roster like drafting Tunsil instead of VH3 or dalvin cook and not a TE
April 13th, 2020 at 10:15 am
However, the Bucs being the unpredictable team that they are…I can see them trading up for an Edge or DT, surprising us all.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:16 am
Im all for it. Getting Becton, Wills, or Thomas will be very worth it.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:16 am
Kobe faker im on you with this one. If theres still atleast 2 good OLinemen left trade down and take your chances.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:17 am
“Tampabuscsbro Says:
April 13th, 2020 at 10:14 am
Why are so many people against trading up to get a great O line prospect?
We need one and need to make sure we get one on that line”
I think everyone is forgetting we have TOM BRADY…. We HAVE to protect him.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Joe when is last time a player was included in a trade like that ?
April 13th, 2020 at 10:18 am
I would honestly hate this move. Hate hate hate this move. I would sit tight at pick #14. Moving up in the first round will be too costly. I would rather see us move back in the first round a few spots and pick up an extra second rounder.
I would be fine moving up in the later drafts if need be. But moving up in the first and giving up several high picks is stupid as stupid gets.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Smoke perhaps? If we move up it has to be for a QB. Would we mortgage our future for OT considering TB12 is only going to be on the roster for 1-2 yrs? Only if we are sure we can find that dev QB in a later round to sit behind TB12 would it make any sense to move up for OL. I don’t know if I buy it. Know we are all in for this season but what if the season is delayed or, Lord forbid, cancelled? I have renewed faith in our front office but this just seems overly aggressive if true.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:19 am
Too many holes to fill for trading up in the first rd. Stay put and let things come to you or trade back!
April 13th, 2020 at 10:20 am
I agree with those that say trading up is a bad idea. No need.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:21 am
We have two 4th rounders this year if we have to try and move up in the 3rd to get CEH or Cam. But I trust that Licht/BA have already gamed out their entire draft.
BamaRich I appreciate your loyalty and get it. I do not want ANY QB in the 1st this year…far too much draft capital and next year’s class is as good if not better than this year’s. Tua is also damaged goods with a spotty injury history..he has played through them but still…
Here is the question for you Rich. Not to irritate you because you guys have had the very best program for the past decade..slight challenge from OSU…and now Clemson threatens but I think everyone respects the Tide and Saban.
But…I’m trying to think of great QB’s that Bama has turned out….I’m old school so I go back to Starr…Namath..Stabler…you guys used to be a QB factory. Recently however I can’t recall a Bama QB who went on to a HOF career like those first three.
Now admittedly the first three set the bar truly HIGH…but what Bama QB has made a significant contribution to an NFL team.
Again I’m not slamming Bama…you guys are great year in and year out..it’s just I do not believe that Saban produces great QB’s…great in the trenches…great RB’s and great WR’s..lots of great defensive players..but the great QB’s slip my mind. I’m always nervous about Tide QB’s in the pros and Tua obviously has the injury issues.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:23 am
I’ve been leaning toward the trade back camp myself. Bolstering our OL is important with TB12 here but we NEEED a solid 3 down RB just as much. That would take so much pressure off TB12. Last few years, opposing DEF teed off on our line because they knew JW3 was going to throw (a duck) and had 0 respect for our run game (or lack there of). We need both RB and OL help. Trading up would ensure we only have the ability to plug one of those holes.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:24 am
“BREKING NEWS TRADE
Shamen Kobe Faker performed a ritual last night
*Kobe tried to sacrifice his pet goat but ran away from the trailer park
Tampa bay trades back with Philadelphia
Philadelphia receives Tampa Bay 1st round #14 pick (Henry Ruggs 3)
Tampa Bay receives Philly 1st round #21 , 2nd round #53 and 4th round #127
Shamen Kobe Faker has posted and it shall be”
Kobe Faker
April 13th, 2020 at 10:26 am
If none of the four tackles fall to the Bucs, look for them to take Jordan Love to sit behind TB12, they will trade back into the first round for Jones or Austin. Obviously this will cost them their 2nd this year and potentially their 3rd unless they can get o sucker, errr a team to accept one of their 4th round picks, if they throw in a player to keep their third round pick such as OJ or Brate, that means they have a trade in place for Gronk. They can get a RB as late as the fourth round (A.J. Dillon, Zack Moss) that can be productive if they are as high on ROJO as they say they are, I think ROJO can get the job done
April 13th, 2020 at 10:26 am
@ SPBF
I agree. Moving up in the later rounds to grab a solid player in the third or fourth rounds is fine with me. Moving up in the first, especially when there are multiple teams bidding, is a bad idea. So many WRs, RBs, safeties and line depth in this draft and we need players at all those positions.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:26 am
I’d be down with that KF. Find that goat!!
April 13th, 2020 at 10:27 am
Trading up but giving away an early round pick this year doesnt make sense in the “win now” mentality. Any trade up would have to include picks in future years if our GM has half a clue. We absolutely have to get a bigtime back and waiting for one in round 3 is whistling passed the graveyard so to speak. Also I havent seen many mock drafts where all four tackles are off the board. I pray we dont trade up for a tackle who would have been there anyway. That would be our draft luck in a nutshell.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:28 am
Im glad some people on here dont run the front office,lichts been bad but some of you know it alls are funny
April 13th, 2020 at 10:28 am
@ Kobe
I would be very happy with that trade.
@ rrsrq
I could see us taking a QB but I would be surprised if were before round 3.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:28 am
BTW there are needs and there are “wants”
We NEED an RT…hopefully Haig will serve as depth since he can play across the line.
We NEED an RB…I “WANT” two..CEH/Cam and Dillon later.
That’s it for me as far as need! We certainly could use/need a safety.
We do not NEED a QB. If Brady plays two years..next year’s QB class is as good or better than this year’s. One season under Brady should be more than enough time for any true FRANCHISE QB to develop.
We simply have better places to spend draft capital this year.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:28 am
Posey yes, also so what if we mortgage our future to do it when brady leaves. at the end of the day we will still have at minimum a pretty good O lineman on this team for years to come. that helps whoever is playing QB for us in the future.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:29 am
As much as i want an OT, i would not trade up and part with a 2nd rd pick. I may be crazy, but we still have Dotson. Not a goid idea to settle for a lessor quality RB
April 13th, 2020 at 10:29 am
Side note. Why the fuh are they not shipping the new Brady Pewter jersey I purchased until SEPTEMBER!!?? That’s some bull shnikies right there.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:30 am
Harry in Costa Rica. as of now Dotson is still a FA. also did you watch games last year the dude was cooked.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:31 am
I love it, the same people that are so against trading up are the ones that were begging to bring in a 43-year-old quarterback who has a max of 2 years to play. Yes guys makes a lot of sense….smh.
Don’t you people understand this is what I’ve been telling you, once you go for an old quarterback it means win now or nothing this is what you asked for. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:32 am
Heres a scenario I want to throw out there. What if we trade Donovan Smith for Trent Williams? Donovans salary will be less but I think we have enough to make up the difference. We sign Trent Williams and the Redskins get an adequate left tackle young with experience and we get the lockdown left tackle Brady needs. We might have to throw in a pick or a player but not a high one this year. Then we still go after a tackle and running back and if we still get a tackle we should have two strong starting tackles provided our pick works out. Go ahead and slam me but why isnt this possible.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:33 am
This coaching staff has said multiple times that RB is not a position they deem a high priority. Nor does Arians like drafting OL that will take time to develop. To think a trade up for anything other than a QB or (based on how the team’s skill positions on the O side are stacked) a top Defensive lineman seems far fetched to me. I just done see this team drafting a RB on day 2 let alone burning a day one pick on one. It goes totally against what this staff’s words and actions have shown. Get used to ROJO as the top dog in the backfield, I think the staff is likely sold on him as the lead back on 1st and 2nd downs.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:34 am
Lol
Ndog still seething his boy the Gr@&er turnover machine is gone.
Ndog last time I checked he is still unemployed. Brady gives us a much better chance to win a superbowl in the next 2 years then Winston EVER will in his entire career. Even if by some miracle he plays til he is 40.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:35 am
I realize those four lineman are pro-ready but it’s just too costly, stand pat and see what comes to us at #14 or entertain moving back if we get offers. There will be someone available at 14 that will be a day one starter, whether it be a WR, DE, or DT. All can help but don’t mortgage future picks for on a hunch. You only would do that if you need a QB.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:36 am
Trade back scenario….drop with the Dolphins #18…for their 2nd..2nd round pick and swapping draft positions in the 3rd round
April 13th, 2020 at 10:39 am
Ndog
your schtick is wearing thin ..move on
April 13th, 2020 at 10:40 am
If we could move up for a 4th and maybe a future pick, I would be OK with it. Otherwise, I think our 2nd and 3rd round picks are too valuable, and the players available then should match up well with our needs.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:41 am
Licht has never moved up in the first round, but he has moved back a numbers of times in the first round.
Licht has moved from the second round to the first but has never moved up in the fist round.
Don’t expect Licht to move up in the first round
April 13th, 2020 at 10:44 am
Im sure a few tackles besides the top 4, will turn out fine.
April 13th, 2020 at 10:55 am
Josh jones is good I say sit and see what offer you get for 14…
April 13th, 2020 at 10:59 am
Nick 2 i like that idea!!!
April 13th, 2020 at 11:01 am
Lot of smoke coming from Tampa !
April 13th, 2020 at 11:03 am
NDog win now is better than signing JW at 30M and winning never. Why can’t you understand that?
April 13th, 2020 at 11:07 am
Your suggesting basically swapping picks if all they are giving up is players and this years first. That doesn’t seem like it’s enough. Licht should be smart and either stay pat or trade back in the first but start moving up on day two especially if your tackle is gone. Trading up to replace right tackle suggests you should have been trying to get the guy To replace demar last year and it’s desperation. I hope they don’t trade up
April 13th, 2020 at 11:08 am
I’m by no means an expert but while the top 4 OT’s look good, Josh Jones, Isaiah Wilson. and Auston Jackson look pretty good also. I have read many articles that say rookie OL prospects have problems adapting to the NFL. When you consider OTA’s and rookie camps are going to be cut short this year it will be even harder for the best prospects to adapt. So IMO we will probably get a shot at one of the top tackles at 14 and if we don’t trading back or picking a guy like Jones or Jackson wouldn’t be a terrible move.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:09 am
You can probably trade down with Minnesota, and still get Jones or Jackson.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:13 am
No…..no…..no……no…..no
April 13th, 2020 at 11:15 am
What’s wrong Jean the truth hurt? You will see in the long run, you will see
April 13th, 2020 at 11:18 am
For those of you who want Trent Williams – do you realize the Bucs have less than $6 million left under the salary cap after we sign our draft picks? Tent Williams wants @ $18 million per season.
Sorry. This is not going to happen. Make sure when your talking about signing free agents you take into consideration that there is a salary cap and we are limited on what we are able to spend.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:20 am
If we move up ..it will be for QB Justin Hebert
April 13th, 2020 at 11:22 am
NPUPPY coming with the same thing for the last 3 weeks. It’s the same rerun. You gotta come with something new, my dude. And you say the Winston haters always repeat themselves.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:23 am
@ Jean
I agree with you. I was also thinking the Bucs move back a few spots and draft Jordan Love in the mid-late first round. Then move back up into the first and draft a second tier offensive tackle like Thomas, Jones, Niang, Cleveland or Bartch.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:25 am
In my opinion, Bucs need to bring in a veteran safety and cb to compete with the young guys.
Then either stay put or trade back in this draft. The key is, Licht needs to hit a home run this yr. I’m talking rounds 1-3/4 needs to be starters and everything else quality depth.
Oh, and bring in a kicker for competition. DO NOT GIFT GAY THE STARTING ROLL!!!
April 13th, 2020 at 11:27 am
Jean Lafitte Says:
“Ndog
your schtick is wearing thin ..move on”
No shyte….and sometimes he acts like WE made the decision to bring in Brady….
Ndog…WE don’t call the shots at One Buc.
The majority of the fan base is more than happy Brady is here…you’re in the minority for obvious reasons. Get it, got it, good. Move on.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:28 am
Ndog
Try and imagine what silence looks like….
April 13th, 2020 at 11:32 am
Trade down pick up an extra pick. There’s no guarantee that by of those four top tackles will be any better than a second or third pick. Jason Peters was a very late round pick.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:34 am
Ndog the all knowing jameis winston loving football god
April 13th, 2020 at 11:37 am
Itz asinine for anyone to assume the bucs would trade up or draft a QB early in the draft. Its not happening. They have a very short window and need players who can have an impact or can contribute now not in three years. With that being said I say trade up for Isaiah Simmons. That roaming strong safety type within Bowles defense would put it over the edge. I trust Dotson at right tackle enough and trust Brady even more to get the ball out quickly.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:38 am
One key point being the minority does not mean being wrong.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:42 am
Do not trade up. If one of the top 4 aren’t there, draft Josh Jones. There are quite a few that believe he belongs in that top tier. His tape is dominant, he excelled at the Senior Bowl. Don’t overthink this or trade away the future. We know that a lot of hyped players don’t pan out. It’s better to have more high picks, where you increase your chances of getting impact players. Take your chances at getting one of those too 4 guys at 14, and if they are gone, take Josh Jones who has a solid chance to be just as good or better as those guys.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:44 am
If it’s a player that we want, and it’s not exorbitant to do so, you absolutely trade up. But again, it better be THEE guy.
Given the holes in the roster however, IMO you stay put.
April 13th, 2020 at 11:46 am
“One key point being the minority does not mean being wrong.”
BUT IT DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU RIGHT!!!
There a reason why you’re a fan and not working for the team!
April 13th, 2020 at 11:49 am
Marine, but in Nick’s scenario with trading Smith you free up space and trent williams is not going to get what he wants so you negotiate with him so it fits and comes to state with no income tax and get to play with the GOAT and also BA…if he wants out so bad he will come
April 13th, 2020 at 11:52 am
JW is gone and hopefully catches on a team this year as a backup, strange he has not been signed yet but his agent throwing out alll these surgeries he had in the off season probably did not help jameis cause to get sign especially now that teams cannot get you in the building to do a physical. I also am guessing that Front Office’s want to talk to jameis face to face and make sure no more bombs are going to drop
April 13th, 2020 at 11:59 am
Ndog
Why’s he JW still unemployed
April 13th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
I better…”check my sheet”
April 13th, 2020 at 12:06 pm
Does Winston have a job yet asking for a friend
April 13th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
Ndog this is sad and actually becoming pathetic.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
For those who may have missed the “Morning roundup”
One of the links Joe provided was for the top GAMBLES in this year’ draft.
The first four were all QB’s!!! The 5th was Jonathan Taylor.
I’m all aboard for taking a QB in the 4th or later…somebody like Morgan or some of the other guys mentioned here.
A QB is ALWAYS
April 13th, 2020 at 12:10 pm
oOPS…A gamble…again can you say MM or JW? Might as well take a shot this year…if it doesn’t work out then try and find somebody higher next year.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:10 pm
I don’t buy that at all unless they think one of them is a real stand out, which it does not seem that way.
This draft is pretty deep with tackles, there’s no reason to waste draft picks.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Trading up from 14 to 9 – should cost our 3rd and one of our 4th round picks. I think he’s just shopping – we probably call around every year to kick the tires.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
Highly unlikely. Including Tom Brady, think of how many huge contracts, other than the most paid average oline. Have no room to trade up and lose picks. If it was to happen, I’m thinking there would be very careful manuvering to figure a good draft strategy by getting back into the second round. Trading up for an RT in a draft stacked with good OL I think would come down to the last second on draft night.
And I think the Bucs are sitting perfect at #14. Any of these guys would be sweet and land at 14:
-Wills
-Thomas
-Becton
-Kinlaw
-Trade back
“Build through the draft.”
April 13th, 2020 at 12:17 pm
*”Build through the draft.” – Jason Licht.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:18 pm
@ Dusty
Why would we trade for Trent Williams unless he is playing RT? Trading away Smith (although I agree he isn’t great) just to have Trent Williams (who hasn’t played football in over a year) at an even higher salary is just not a good idea.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Bucs will get robbed if trade up. Teams know bucs are desperate to win now
April 13th, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Winstons PUPPY says “the same people that are so against trading up are the ones that were begging to bring in a 43-year-old quarterback“
Does this even make sense? This has to be one of the dumbest takes you’ve had in a long time. This is even worse than jw would be starting and winning a super bowl this yr!
I truly feel bad for you. You’re seriously losing it! I’m actually concerned for you. Just remember 1-800-273-8255
April 13th, 2020 at 12:23 pm
It’s not where you pick, it’s WHO you pick.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
I highly doubt Cam Akers will still be on the board in Round 3.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
I’m pretty sure every GM drafting in the middle to late first round is doing the same thing. Big deal. He would be a fool not to explore it, but I don’t see it happening. We have to get as many starting caliber players in multiple positions, so this just sounds like Jason is doing what any GM does and that is to be prepared for any situation.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:36 pm
I’m not sure what you’re talking about, who’s gone I’m referring to an old quarterback and it’s playing for now and having no future what are you referring to?
April 13th, 2020 at 12:37 pm
A TE (Brate or Howard) in exchange for a place swap in first and second round with the Panthers makes sense to me in order to take Simmons. If the swap is with the Jags I’d like to see a later round pick included in the deal. Simmons is worth trading for. The speed he and White would bring to the table would be phenomenal.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:46 pm
MarineBuc
Agree completely about Williams. I read the WAPO online mostly for political coverage but I check out their sports page as well.
In his prime Williams was clearly as good as any at his position…generational.
But he’s long past his prime and there are questions about his durability and “attitude”. In fairness to Trent the Redskins medical staff misdiagnosed a cancerous growth in his head that was later diagnosed by a private doctor and could have killed Williams. Yeah that would give me a ‘tude as well.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:51 pm
Stpetebucs fan, I know that Bama doesn’t have a history of producing QBs but I think Tua is going to great. TB12 is going to make sure we move further down the draft order in the next couple of years. When his time is up we’re back to square one. I watched Jederick Willis all year long and just don’t think he’s worth the 14th pick. Guess only time will tell. Go Bucs
April 13th, 2020 at 12:54 pm
Performing due diligence is fine, but we better not trade up in the 1st round and mortgage the future. It’s great to have Brady and to have jettisoned Jay Miss, but we either need to stand pat at 14 and grab one of the big four linemen or trade back a bit and grab mas picks.
April 13th, 2020 at 12:55 pm
^Tua is going to “be” great
April 13th, 2020 at 1:05 pm
I think Brady has shown through out his career he doesn’t need a top tier RB…..that being said, maybe now is the time to get him a workhorse with the virus wrecking offseason programs and the guy they want is a top ten pick.
April 13th, 2020 at 1:59 pm
Im just saying I would rather have Trent Williams than Donovan Smith. Smith is ok if that’s what we are forced with but in 2017 PFF gave him a 92.8 grade which was the highest grade of ANY offensive lineman in the NFL. So the guy is elite and would ofcourse have to pass a physical. We have a chance for a Superbowl and the issues he has are with the Redskins medical team who took wayyyyy too long to properly diagnose him (bottom line anyone else would be more than upset). I know this would never happen but 31 years is nothing to an O lineman and we still get to draft a lineman number one so we are not throwing away the future.
April 13th, 2020 at 2:05 pm
In the last 20 drafts only on one occassion was 4 OL prospects picked before 14. In 2013 6 were taken by pick 14.
April 13th, 2020 at 2:07 pm
I would tap the breaks on Tua. No doubt he is very talented an amazing athlete but he has had two broken wrists, two high ankle sprains that required surgery and a season ending hip injury that also required surgery. All within a year and a half.
I would pass.
April 13th, 2020 at 2:23 pm
Tampabuscsbro:
I agree, Olineman are waaaaay more valuable than a RB. Why people are calling for a first round RB is silly. Protect brady and our future QB. I’d rather have a good OLine and 2 decent running backs than a superstar running back that has nowhere to run because he has no Oline.
April 13th, 2020 at 3:11 pm
Trading up for a RT don’t sound right. If we do trade up you gotta think the plan is to move him over to LT in 2021. Didn’t we trade up for a LT once before?
April 13th, 2020 at 4:33 pm
I just don’t get all the Cam Akers Love , 4 th round vision and plays slower than he tests ……… everyone is enamored with his due it all ability but he just isn’t that good with the ball in his hands. Hell just sign Devonte Freeman for 3 mil or many many others . Now If Swift is there at the end of the first round after you traded back for the Houston Tackle , go get him , he isn’t prob a 25 Cary full timer but he is a special talent !! Different than Sony and Nick Chubb but he gor carries with those two upperclassmen for a reason !!! He is def better at certain things than both those guys !!
April 13th, 2020 at 4:35 pm
I admit I’m usually against trading up and in favor of trading back. However, this year, I agree and think it might be necessary. I think Wills Jr is perfect for the Bucs. Even if they had to trade up for him, this is an immediate need that can be satisfied and is worth some draft capital. If the Bucs walked away with Wills Jr and Edwards-Helaire, I wouldn’t care if it cost us picks 1-4 to secure those two. Immediate impact in a (true) all in for this year! Plus we have an extra 4th. That pick should offset some concerns about overpaying for the guy we want.
April 13th, 2020 at 5:11 pm
There’s only one QB worth trading up for and it ain’t Tua. I’m ok with the traiding up for a tackle or even one the the top RBs.
April 13th, 2020 at 5:37 pm
It’s under 2 weeks to the draft. We’re officially in lying season. Don’t believe anything coming out that’s new.
April 13th, 2020 at 5:43 pm
Unless we want Tua (please no) and he falls to 9, I see no justification to trade up. I’d only ever consider trading up for a quarterback or a pass rusher in any draft unless there was a transcendent player available at another position. Stick and pick or trade down. This team needs too many pieces to just give away draft picks.
April 13th, 2020 at 7:38 pm
Wills! But dont give up our 2nd! Give up a next years draft pick and a player. We still need our 2nd for RB (Clyde) and our 3rd for Safety (Dugger/Davis).
April 13th, 2020 at 8:30 pm
Rich
Bama has produced three of the GREATEST QB’s of all time…Starr, Namath and Stabler….perhaps you guys just used up your great QB allotment.
April 14th, 2020 at 7:28 am
If the top 5 OT’s are off the board at #14. I’d like to see the Bucs take the Best defensive player available that isnt a CB.
April 14th, 2020 at 6:52 pm
Ndog if Brady don’t work we will wait until Rogers leave the Packers when he turns 40 . That’s what the most of the people in the fanbase wants lol lol lol lol …