Peyton Manning, Saints Assistant GM Take Pokes At Bruce Arians
April 28th, 2020
Yes, Jameis Winston represents a red X on the resumé of Bucco Bruce Arians. The Quarterback Whisperer didn’t get through to Jameis, at least not enough to stop his turnover-machine ways.
That kind of accountability/reality isn’t popular at One Buc Palace, but it’s still accurate.
Jameis is expected to finalize a deal with the Saints today to be their backup quarterback, and New Orleans assistant general manager Jeff Ireland was talking about how lucky Jameis is to a local radio station, as documented by NOLA.com.
Ireland felt compelled to throw darts at Bucs coaches past and present.
“(Brees) is an incredible leader; he’s an incredible studier of the game how he breaks down his opponents,” Ireland said. “And then you throw in (offensive coordinator) Pete Carmichael, (quarterbacks coach) Joe Lombardi and (head coach) Sean Payton on the offensive side of the ball, those creative minds, Jameis Winston will learn more football in a year than he has in his lifetime.”
Remember when things literally got physical between Dirk Koetter and Sean Payton after a game? Joe suspects some of Ireland’s shade is born from that.
Also, there’s the ego-driven Saints mindset that Payton is a better quarterback whisperer than Arians, who wrote a book about himself with that title.
Speaking of the book, Peyton Manning spoke before the draft to 104.3 FM radio in Colorado and took his own shot at Arians, albeit playful.
“Bruce Arians was my quarterbacks coach my first few years in the NFL,” Manning said. “He was my coach when I threw those 28 interceptions as a rookie. Now he didn’t put that in his book, I don’t think, as the QB Whisperer. But he was my coach. To me he’s gotta be a part of those 28 picks. It can’t all just be me.”
It’s often overlooked that Arians was just the QB coach during his three seasons with Manning in Indianapolis. He was not calling plays.
This is all fun and welcome drama in April.
Regardless, Tom Brady hasn’t thrown more than 11 interceptions in a season since 2011, when he threw just 12. If Brady tosses, say, 15 picks this year, one might have to point a finger somewhere other than at the quarterback.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:03 am
“If Brady tosses, say, 15 picks this year, one might have to point a finger somewhere other than at the quarterback.”
If Brady throws only 15 thats a huge improvement lol. If his career wprst cuts our turnovers in half, I dont see how thats a bad thing lol
April 28th, 2020 at 9:05 am
Nonsense………..media sensationalism
April 28th, 2020 at 9:07 am
Nonsense
April 28th, 2020 at 9:07 am
Of course Arians and his system were a part of Jameis’ 30 picks. He had never thrown anywhere near that in his career. DUH.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:08 am
At some stage drew gets hurt….
Old buc qbs seem to win Super Bowls….
Why can I see it… haha
April 28th, 2020 at 9:10 am
I’m kind of disappointed that Manning would say that. I’ve screwed up a lot, but when I do, I own it.
At any rate, I wish Jameis well, but my focus is on the great things going on here in Tampa. We have the talent and coaching to compete with anyone in the League. I’m all in with BA, TB12 and the new-look Bucs. Now let’s kill this stupid virus and play football!
April 28th, 2020 at 9:11 am
🚨🚨🚨 Starting to see the narrative shift in the media the past week that JW’s issues were coaching related and not player related. I am predicting that letting JW walk for a tw0-year “fling” with Tom Brady will become the greatest blunder in the histroy of Bucs personell decisions – and that’s saying ALOT. 🚨🚨🚨
April 28th, 2020 at 9:12 am
Drew Brees and Payton have just 1 ring to show for all this talk? They’ve be losing in the postseason for 6 straight years and couldn’t even win the conference and also lost to Vikings back QB, it’s high time we agree that Payton chokes in postseason age stat pad in the season.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:12 am
Payton should have been perma banned from the NFL for placing a bounty to injure opposing QB’s. The guy is not a QB whisperer, he is a QB bounty hunter. The guy is total garbage.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:15 am
Bingo! Jameis is about to expose every coach that has forced him to play into their scheme. Buc Nation will watch Jameis become an elite NFL QB. BA will go down as the Jon Gruden, one trick wonder with an old car. Whatever gets the job done once, but which builds teams and dynasties? Famous Jameis
April 28th, 2020 at 9:18 am
Funny how Saints developed a 5 year starting veteran with good record Drew Bress
April 28th, 2020 at 9:18 am
Haha BA
BA is no whisper. Payton is way better and a real whisper Payton can take any Qb and make them better. BA relies on star powered Qb who really don’t need him and tears their ACLs in the process
BA is borderline fraud if he didn’t cross those lines yet
And good for JW landing on feet in the worse case scenario for the Bucs. Bucs can’t get out their own way. We might be dealing with JW for next 10 years
April 28th, 2020 at 9:23 am
Pigs&Bucs I would be with you if jameis had been successful under any of his 3 head coaches so far. He hasn’t he has been turnover prone with 3 different head coaches. And if he does play for the saints this year in any games he has less weapons than he did last year with us. So I see him forcing the ball to Michael Thomas and throwing the same mind numbing picks. And I would love for him to play against us. Would much rather have him play us versus brees. He would be so jacked up he will be sailing balls all over the place. And one other thing if he does play this year and he knows he is on a game by game audition like he was last year with us with his mentality it won’t work out well for his stats.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:25 am
We all rooted for him for 5 years because the better he did the better the Bucs would be. If we had resigned him would any of you like your chances in the playoffs in a win or go home game with what jameis will show up today. I wouldn’t like it. A super bowl run you guys are saying he would have to have three good/great games in a row under extreme pressure and playoff defense. Do any of you besides ndog see him doing that. I sure don’t
April 28th, 2020 at 9:27 am
Pugs and Bugs, there have been worse decisions by the Bucs over the years. We truly need to be in a win now mode. I could care less about two years from now as I have endured too many “5 year plans” over the decades. Winston was asking way too much and the Glazers were tired of seeing him screw up.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:29 am
I really think this has little to do with Arians…….Jameis has thrown Ints in college and since he’s been a pro……he has had many coaches……had 4 including Arians this year……
He’s gone…..history. Hope he’s successful but it won’t be Arians’ fault he’s gone.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:32 am
Peyton Manning just called it like it is. His freshman year with the Colts (1998) was his worst season … 3-13 record, lowest completion % (56.7%), least passing yardage (3739 yds), most INTs (28), lowest # of TDs (26) in his 17-year career (except for his last shortened year).
What Peyton didn’t say though is that the NEXT 2 years under Arians pretty much set the foundation for his career. He went 23-9, threw for over 4,000 yds both seasons and cut his INTs in half (to 15) in each season. Indy made the playoffs both seasons, but got knocked out in Rnd 1 both times.
I think we would’ve seen similar results with Jameis, such as cutting his INTs in half. I don’t think the 30 INTs was the PRIMARY reason Jameis was not re-signed. Tend to think that BA, JL & the Glazers didn’t see him as THE LEADER that they needed going forward. Too much water had flowed under the bridge I suspect, and Jameis’ demands for $30 mil (plus?) probably just sealed the non-deal. Personally I wish him well in New Orleans & hope that he can re-invigorate his career.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:34 am
🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨News Flash Breaking Story 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
Every Coach Has Failed To Get Winston Fixed!!!!!!!
Winston CAn Only Fix Himself
April 28th, 2020 at 9:35 am
The coddling is over its time to earn it👏👏👏👏
April 28th, 2020 at 9:37 am
Not that I feel the Arians needs to be defended, he certainly doesn’t but that said Jeff IRELAND has nothing to say about anything that pokes anyone.
He was nothing and showed it at Miami and is only a figure head in New Orleans, if even that.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:38 am
Bruce didnt tell Winston to throw the ball to the other team.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Keep thinking that Ireland…just keep thinking it.
You too, Mr. Ireland, shall fall under that famous saying…”fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”
April 28th, 2020 at 9:42 am
Sure, Bruce Arians is the reason Jameis has turned the ball over his entire career. Give me a break, Joes. Incredibly pleased I won’t have to read that stupid aMerIcA’S qB moniker every week any more
April 28th, 2020 at 9:42 am
“The buck stops here”…..right?
April 28th, 2020 at 9:44 am
Maybe it’s because I live here in New orleans now so I’m almost forced to pay more attention to the Saints than the Panthers or Falcons, but I feel that we should all know Sean Payton is better than what we have. When was the last time Jameis had guys who were schemed wide open all age long? NEVER!I don’t know that he’s going to learn more, but I do believe that their system is just better for him. I feel like they’re always better at attacking weaknesses than we are. Also, if he gets to play, they actually have a running game and defense.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:45 am
Pete = game and match. Thank you sir.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:47 am
Winning minimizes interceptions.
Jameis didn’t win – not all his fault- But that’s why he’s no longer a Buc.
When you don’t Win, the stats become more important- especially turnovers, because they are the biggest reason teams don’t win.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:50 am
Peyton Manning….making excuses!
April 28th, 2020 at 9:53 am
Difference is Jameis had been in the league With his “5TH” term and threw 30 interception. He wasn’t a rookie lol
April 28th, 2020 at 10:00 am
Garbage teams not turnovers is the main reason teams lose
Thats why XFL and AFL were packed with Bucs previous starters
April 28th, 2020 at 10:02 am
AHH, exactly how many SBs has Arians won as a head coach? Or better yet,
how many HOFers has he drafted personally or coached to HOF careers?? Dont say Peyton because he didnt Draft him and one could argue that the 3 years that he coached Peyton was the worst of his career !! Dont believe me look up how many INTs Peyton had when The almighty QB whisperer coached himm!! And BTW Tom Moore is more widely recognized as the genius behind Mannings success!!OHH Big Ben you say,well hate to bust your bubble but most of Big Bens success came after the Steelers moved on from Bruce Almighty!!And lets just be real is Palmer a HOF QB?? Child Pleease!So as far as I can see BA is a Big phony. Oh and I really am the one and only Chummaster01 just like the Highlander there can only be One!! Haters LMAO
April 28th, 2020 at 10:03 am
Sorry lamarcus but 100years of nfl football says turnovers lose gms!!!!!!!!
That’s Fact Buddy
April 28th, 2020 at 10:04 am
I doubt Brady will throw more interceptions than his norm. Its already been addressed that the offense will be adjusted some in Toms favor. It’s not like BA’s past were he made all the QB’s he had adjust to his scheme. I won’t be surprised if Tom doesn’t get 75% control of the offense. BA is trying to chase a ring and Jameis probably wouldn’t have hit his prime to do so in BA’s timeline. He didn’t want to do the work and let another coach take credit for it. Let’s be honest. Super Bowl winning head coach is what’s missing from his resume. The future isn’t his concern. However I hope that Licht makes it a point to trade up in next years draft to take a legit QB for the future and I hope Tom plays nice to help prep that QB to takeover unlike what he did in NE.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:04 am
Last night I watched Tony Romo throw 5 picks with 2 pick sixes and a lost fumble at Buffalo in 2007 and his team won. It’s a team game folks including coaching, everyone is accountable, of course accept Bruce Arains who is perfect. Just ask him and he’ll tell you.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:09 am
Destin…wrong…most old Bucs QB’s tend to flame out of the league…a few of the couple dozen have gone elsewhere to go to or win SB’s. And frankly, those were places where the QB wasn’t asked to do too much, with stellar defenses. That isn’t the case in N O.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:10 am
Lol^^^^^^ do you see what this guy is arguing
April 28th, 2020 at 10:11 am
Arians won’t tell you he is perfect. All you have to do is look at the fact he thought Jameis could be developed into a playoff and more QB. Then at the end of the year, he had to admit that that was much more likely to happen with just about any other NFL QB, so he didn’t make a real effort to resign him.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:11 am
A Tiger can’t change it’s stripes
………..and Jameis will always be Jameis
April 28th, 2020 at 10:12 am
Ndog why did the Bucs lose in week 1 against SF?????? They played defense and had a run gm!!!! There were no missed kicks tell me why they lost????? And save the fluff just answer if you’re capable of doing that.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:15 am
It’s a lie the D was horrible all year. They played solid in weeks 1-2 the offense not so much. No phase played a complete season
April 28th, 2020 at 10:18 am
This clown says everyone is accountable except the QB yea thts what you thought. Then he got replaced!!!!!
April 28th, 2020 at 10:21 am
Did Jameis learn a damn thing under Koetter and Arians? At some point you have to consider the dude isn’t very coach able. He’s been the same guy throughout college and his NFL career. He is who he is.. when bullets fly relies on those instincts he’s always relied on. He gets excited, too emotional, etc. Not the calm and collected type, never was.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:27 am
Winston never threw 30 ints before. BA has an ego and they crucified Winston for issues our team developed. They wanted Winston to cover up the fact we haven’t had a stable team identity since we win the Superbowl. We tried to make Winston the savior but he should have had a veteran QB to learn from. Instead, we made a 20 year old rookie carry the failures of our franchise that we incurred over a decade before we got Winston. No coach is perfect and as always None of our coaches really wanted Winston to beging with. If you commit to the player and a system both sides win. You can’t develop a young talent by switching coaching staffs every 2-3 years. All you Winston haters are not smart enough to see our team has issues with QBs and we never developed one that stayed and won here. They leave and win like Steve Young and Doug Williams.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:29 am
Until I see Arians actually throw the INT, I’m going to blame it on the QB or his receivers every time.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:31 am
I wish Jameis well but his mistakes were HIS mistakes. When you throw 6-7 pick sixes in a season you’re just being careless with the ball. That loses games. He was given plenty of time to develop into a complete QB. The turnovers just can’t seem to be coached out of him.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:32 am
Um well we had two TDs called back by penalties. OJ fumbled in the redzone taking points off the board. OJ had a ball bounce off his hands causing a pick. On addition to that we had a pick 6 when Peyton Barber ran the wrong route. So those are the reasons we lost sir.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:32 am
It’s not about 30 picks it’s about 5years worth bad decisions on and off the field!
April 28th, 2020 at 10:34 am
Ndog yea you conveniently forgot the pick 6 on the screen play lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂but that’s what we’ve come to expect from you
April 28th, 2020 at 10:36 am
Twisted and desperate Buc fans are gonna spin the Jameis thing a lot of negative ways, But if Arians is such a great QB coach, then how come Jameis only got one yr in his system? When a QB is thrown to the wolves right out of college his learning curve is not only short but steep. We will see this shortly with the boy wonder out of LSU this year. I wish my Bucs victory. But our history guys………
April 28th, 2020 at 10:37 am
Pop Warner QBs know you throw that ball in the dirt. Not Winston he throws it up for grabs as usual
April 28th, 2020 at 10:37 am
Throwing picks has nothing to do with the coach. BA has had solid results with a lot of QB’s. Whats Sean Payton’s resume? Drew Brees. Winston signing means nothing. Hes just a 3rd string back up. Get over it Joe!
April 28th, 2020 at 10:38 am
I cant wait for the Jameis haters to either be siilent or just continue apitting out lies.Winston will tear it up out there.I hate the fact that Bruce hired Leftwich
April 28th, 2020 at 10:40 am
WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS.
this is just Joe spinning up his narratives one of the joes doesn’t like Arians cause he got rid of his guys Mr Entertainment.
Koetter and Arians couldn’t fix him. He has been the same guy since college. If the saints are true QB whisperers how come literally no QB has come out of that system as a rookie late round pick that went somewhere else? Sure teddy did. Teddy did a pretty good job at his last job the saints have never developed one single QB and here we are going on about it.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:42 am
How much do you reckon this move is to get first hand on the Bucs playbook, Payton realises we now are a credible threat (without JW) and is looking to get one up ?.
Only cost him a one year low-ball payment.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:45 am
Sorry. Wrong. This site and a lot of the fans branded him the savior. Jameis Christ and the complete line of BS. Go back to the beginning and watch it all.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:50 am
I like how everyone thinks he will become the next Doug Williams or Steve Young. He is more likely to become the next Josh Freeman or Mike Glennon.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:52 am
YoungBucs no I didn’t forget about that play but left it out as A. it wouldn’t have even been needed if those other plays didn’t happen and B. there is some debate about that play as folks say throw it in the dirt BUT if you look at that play he actually threw before Dare even broke AND Dare picked the wrong lane to go through causinh him to go down thus the pick so I think they were all to blame on that one. I personally was torn as yes Dare screwed up but also believe from my playing days that if it’s muddled throw it away so I put that on Jameis as well.
April 28th, 2020 at 10:52 am
Yes, throwing to a rb named Peyton barber on an out route while Sherman is covering is always a good thing! Smh
April 28th, 2020 at 10:53 am
I think Payton Manning is being hyperbolic when mentioning Arians involved in his 28 interceptions, Manning was a rookie, rookie NFL QBs are going to throw picks. It’s interesting how Manning didn’t credit Arians with his success after the 1998 season, Manning’s career took off after that.
Bruce Arians has proven he’s a damn good coach in the NFL, however, maybe he and Jameis was a bad fit. You have Winston who has propensity to turn the football over and you have Bruce with his “no riskuit no biscuits” mantra and when you put those two together how have a QB that throws 30 picks. Jameis needs a conservative coach, one who puts the running game first.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:00 am
Crap in – crap out.
Bruce Arians is not a freaking wizard.
Just a football coach who knows a quality QB when he sees one.
Winston does not have what it takes between his ears. Physical talents are there but he is missing a few key components.
Football is a game of inches. The most important inches are the ones between a players ears.
Good riddance.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:00 am
“Is this the site that knows more than Sean Payton?
Sean Payton is the most brilliant playcaller and scheme designer in the present NFL
His previous intern Brady took Paytons schemes and playbook and won the college football championship
Payton only has 1 superbowl. Kobe honestly believes Payton is not 100% sure Brees can physically able to win him another or future SBs. Brees cant throw the deep 20+ yard out pattern no more. Defenses will squeeze him this year and limit paytons playcalling. Every HC who has at least 2 superbowls always made the hall of fame
Payton knows he has bought a franchise QB for absolutely nothing. Payton wants and is going backup to the top HC tier where he thinks he should be”
Kobe Faker
April 28th, 2020 at 11:01 am
Thank you Mr. Jeff Ireland for those braggadocious comments about the learning culture within the Saints organization. I’m sure BA and the Bucs can’t wait to play your Saints twice. The story lines are plentiful. Imagine how much fun it’ll be to game plan against the Saints knowing they signed Winston to pick his brain.
Bucs offense will already be a mesh of BA & Brady concepts and any familiarity Winston may pass on to Payton could easily be reversed to throw off the Saints. As for the two starting QB icons, I have to think Brady is targeting the TD record Brees set last year. It feels as if both players are hanging on waiting for the other to retire in order to secure the holy grail of passing trophies: Brees 547 Brady 541 and counting ……
April 28th, 2020 at 11:02 am
Yet another set of coaches that think they can build up the ego of damaged Jameis and make a real QB out of him.
It is possible, but doubtful, it has all been tried already and it kept tumbling down.
Jameis will be out of football a year from now. Sean Payton won’t pu up with it.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:09 am
Yes Sean Payton one of the most infamous chokers of all time is a genius. The man whose entire career is made from one of the best QBs to ever play is a genius.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:14 am
Ndog you just put 10 excuses into 1 I gotta give you credit for that😂
April 28th, 2020 at 11:16 am
Jameis will haunt the Bucs for the next ten years. Brees is in his final year. Jameis will easily beat out Taysom Hill. This is not good. The Saints just reload at the most important position in sports. The Busc are going to be back on the QB carousel in two years. How did they not resign Jameis as the backup to Brady.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:26 am
Saints will never make Jameis a franchise quarterback
April 28th, 2020 at 11:27 am
What you call excuses the rest of the world calls FACTS. So if a person got hit by a car while walking down the street and broke their leg is it an excuse they have to wear a cast or is it a FACT?
April 28th, 2020 at 11:31 am
Saint will never make Jamies a franchise quarterback
April 28th, 2020 at 11:31 am
@ itzok
“Winston will haunt the Bucs for the next ten years”
Lol. No – he won’t.
Only that poor Uber driver will be haunted.
April 28th, 2020 at 11:32 am
Lol I love watching all these haters and racists get so mad and defensive
April 28th, 2020 at 11:33 am
I like how most of the people that are here are a players fan not a Buccaneers fan Winston is gone and he sucks that’s why he lost his last college game
April 28th, 2020 at 11:34 am
You talk facts you throw out a bunch of what if’s and dream wishes. What if Tom gets hurt what if Tom throws 30 ints. What if Winston stop making bad decisions he would be set and balling. Because the fact is Jameis is a big what if every time he’s taken the field best 🎢 on earth
April 28th, 2020 at 11:37 am
You want a fact you can’t deny Winston is a backup. Go ahead a write a long story about it. Don’t matter the fact is right now he’s a backup maybe 3rd on depth chart. Baby steps bro
April 28th, 2020 at 11:40 am
Now that Jameis has signed with NO, would his disciples (pseudo Bucs fans)
please go troll the Saints websites? Your constant damning of everything Bucs is delivered with the same old points and, despite your claims of fandom, shows you are anything but. Not one thing new is brought to the table. You are Winston fans only and he is now sleeping with the enemy
April 28th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
Lol exactly what I been saying show me one low level QB he has developed there isn’t one! This whole thing stinks stinks in 2 years the Bucs will have to find another QB SMDH!
April 28th, 2020 at 12:02 pm
Never has a team talked so much sh!t with so little in the trophy case to back it up. In 14 years with a first ballot HOF quarterback under center they have won a grand total of 8 playoff games, and 3 of those wins came in their lone Super Bowl season.
I pray that Brees retires and Payton’s ego forces him to go with Winston as his starter. Payton and Winston will fall flat on their face and it will be hilarious.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:06 pm
>haters and racists
I’m such a racist you can go back and see me say that I would prefer bridgewater multiple times.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
The Saints paying Brees $25M when they can just pay the great messiah JM $1M-$2M and that will knock off the BUCS, did the Panthers and Falcons miss this great opportunity not signing JM for peanuts? Everyone team playing the BUCS last year love JM, how can you not like this chap when he threw an average of 1-2 pick 6 every game, like he was playing for the opposing team but paid by the BUCS. The opposing team like having 12 players ono the field.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
All this talk. Let me know when there is pen to paper and a final figure.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Alfa said ‘Saint will never make Jamies a franchise quarterback’… Noooo, NO please make JM your next QB for the next 10 years after Brees cos BUCS would love to play against JM…LOL
April 28th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
I just popped in to see the *ace card played.funny how it’s always in a JW thread filed with his supporters. Pretty clear who the real *acists are. jw supporters.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:16 pm
@NFL fans I hope they do too
April 28th, 2020 at 12:21 pm
I would expect nothing less from the classy Saints organization
April 28th, 2020 at 12:21 pm
Bla, Bla, Bla….. All this for a season that isn’t going to happen.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:24 pm
Yea I’m black and my opinion is Winston stinks so far in his career.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
I actually think Jameis will improve when he get his next shot as a starting QB, but that success shouldn’t be an indictment on poor coaching in Tampa. I think everything that’s happen to him this offseason will set his a** straight. Jameis just learned a tough lesson this offseason, no one wants a QB that loses games consistently due to his turnovers. Wake up call for Jameis going forward, he will do better taking care of the ball.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:49 pm
I actually think that Sean Payton is one of the best coaches in the NFL, and Drew Brees is one of the best QBs in the league. That being said, the ass’t coach running his mouth up there is only helping the Bucs by running that mouth. As for Winston, The day it was announced the Winston was going to NO, the saints gave Taysom a 21mil contract, 16 guaranteed. And, publicly announced that he was next in line for Brees job. While I do hope that Payton can help Winston with his problems and Winston can get another starting job like Bridgewater did, I doubt that we’ll ever see Winston on the field. So for all you “now Buc haters”, go on another site and spew your garbage. We have the GOAT now and I know that we will be in the play-offs in 2020. Mainly because the GOAT won’t throw 30 ints.
April 28th, 2020 at 12:54 pm
Bruce Arians is a joke . We have never develope a quarterback in this franchise history . So how many times or yall going to keep blaming the quarterback ???? It can’t be every quarterback and this is just common sense and yall still don’t understand …
April 28th, 2020 at 12:54 pm
YoungBucs & Ndog, don’t forget that in the SF game, where the Bucs played well enough to win, in addition to #3s 3 picks & 2 pick 6s, there were also 2 other (at least) dropped ints by the 49ers. That performance gutted me and probably catapulted the 9ers’ season. The get-right Bucs!
As asked above, who can envision Jameis playing well for 4-5 consecutive games, needed to win a championship?
April 28th, 2020 at 1:01 pm
I just scrolled to the bottom when I saw how many comments were here. And we are……STILL……talking about Jameis?! Why?!
He now plays for our division rival!
Buh-bye!
April 28th, 2020 at 1:11 pm
^^^^
Cause the Joes are still butt hurt about us losing him and think this is all Arians fault.
Plus the Joes still think Winston is a great Quarterback so this keeps coming up.
Also the deluded FSU fans that unfortunately make up such a big chunk of our fanbase.
April 28th, 2020 at 1:13 pm
Jerry S Bentham “ I like how most of the people that are here are a players fan not a Buccaneers fan Winston is gone and he sucks that’s why he lost his last college game”
Umm you do know that was the only game he lost in college right ? Lol
April 28th, 2020 at 1:17 pm
This is utter crap. BA has a long career of improving many different quarterbacks’ career, including JW. Even with the turnovers, he had his best year with the Bucs. Look at his deep throws, TD rate, ypa, etc. Whose career has Sean Payton improved? He was nobody before Brees, and that’s the whole list. Brees made Payton and not the other way around.
April 28th, 2020 at 1:22 pm
This regime is 100% focused on accountability… that’s why Jameis is gone. No red mark from trying to fix Bad Jameis given all the talent Good Jameis brings… but would have been abdication of duty to franchise for yet another last chance to prove himself.
Bruce should sleep soundly knowing he tried his best to fix a talented head case… and Jameis should sleep soundly knowing he is where he belongs for the next year sitting on the bench trying to figure out how not to waste his talents. We should all wish him the best and hope he doesn’t stumble into a repeat of one of his prior mistakes as that would likely cost him an entire season.
April 28th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
Offensive guys for me:
Andy Reid > Sean Payton > BA = Gruden > McVay > Koetter > Kitchens > Wyche > Mckay > Dungy > Perkins > Lovie > Raheem > Williamson > Toes on line
April 28th, 2020 at 2:47 pm
This is just the Saints style. They love talking junk. Well guess what punks……You got one ring and so we do. The race is on for the next one and we freaking know you’re looking over your shoulder now!!
Joe do me a freaking favor and rassle up that old story about Cam Jordan talking junk last year. Remind the Bucs about that one and let’s add some fuel to this fire. I think this Wirfs dude needs to hear it. One thing that stood out to me on Wirfs highlights is how he finished every block I seen and loves to drive his opponents into the dirt!! It’s high time Cam get to taste some!
April 28th, 2020 at 4:20 pm
I hope Brees goes down (season ending) a day before their first game, and they’re forced to use Winston as their starter for the season. Let’s see how great Payton is with a ATM (automatic turnover machine) at QB.
April 28th, 2020 at 4:38 pm
Let me ask you!! Do you think a Coaching Staff that let Teddy Bridgewater is going to be able to fix Jay Miss??
April 28th, 2020 at 5:30 pm
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Jameis Winston turned over the football at FSU and under three different coaches for the Bucs. If he does get a chance to play for the Saints, he will continue turning the ball over. He can do all the exercises he wants–the muscle that needs working on is his brain and that doesn’t seem fixable. See his last throw for Tampa.
April 28th, 2020 at 6:15 pm
Jay Miss is what he is. He’s proven it at FSU, he’s proven it through 3 coaches in the NFL. The guy does not live in reality. “Check you sheet, I’m ballin.'” All you have to do is look at his eyes before the snap. He can’t read defenses at all. He runs like a baby deer. He has no pocket presence. He is a complete BUST. Has he even signed yet? If so, for how much. He’s not gonna beat out Hill and will be #3 emergency QB. Nobody turns it over like Jay Miss.
April 28th, 2020 at 6:48 pm
The Bucs are a poorly ran organization with over a decade of losing history. Jameis Winston had the worst defenses his entire time as a Buc. For you idiots who are talking about him throwing a bunch of interceptions in college, obviously have not taken a look at his stats and only one loss during his playing days as a Nole. He had better coaching and talented teammates on both sides of the ball. The Bucs are pinning their hopes on a 43 year old statue of a quarterback in Brady, and with that swiss cheese offensive line good luck. The Saints win this division and it ain’t even close!!!
April 28th, 2020 at 6:58 pm
Winston threw for more yards the any QB in his first 5 seasons, that’s not easy to do especially behind an O’line that gives up 47 sacks and can’t run block at all.
April 28th, 2020 at 7:36 pm
Yes BA has to take ownership for some of it.
A-For calling too many deep patterns and letting him throw too many deep balls that were more likely to get picked.
B-For letting him stay in the game after multiple picks including some that were not even deep balls and pick 6 throws.
April 28th, 2020 at 8:00 pm
I’m glad Manning said it because I’ve been calling out Ba and his politicking propaganda as BS since day 1.
Licht is terrible but some how manipulated his way in, he gets a pass while JW and each coach before is the convenient scapegoat- never never the roster…..
What a joke.
TB and Gronk, the Patriots, got themselves a nice sunshiney platform much like BA
#1 passer in NFL JW- #2 TD’s
April 28th, 2020 at 8:02 pm
BA hasn’t;t won jack on his own, and when it got rough in Arizona he quit just like he’ll do here- and maybe we’ll get a failed todd bowles HC or even better….Leftwhich….or maybe the girl coaches are ready
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA
April 28th, 2020 at 8:04 pm
Hey Ki song-see Brady’s last throw for the Patriots
April 28th, 2020 at 8:27 pm
Yeah, and Tom Brady won 6 Superbowls and 4 MVP Superbowl Awards. In contrast, Winston was suspended for groping an Uber Driver.
April 28th, 2020 at 8:49 pm
Enjoy the Blaine Gabbert dumpster fire, followed by rebuild
April 28th, 2020 at 8:53 pm
Did Jw3 threw the ball right at his opponents?
Most of them were pick 6. He can’t take what he aced in practice into the real game bottom line.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:12 pm
I’ll be surprised with the way Jameis practices if he makes the team. It is I’ll be interesting.
April 28th, 2020 at 9:33 pm
Hey Ireland, remember that time in The Superdome when the Saints had the game in the bag, Sean Payton called a bonehead play trying to be cute, and Luke McCown brought the Bucs back for a win? Were you with the Saints then? Or working on get fired somewhere else?
Keeping talking trash before the season Aints. Never mind the Brady offense you’ll be facing because the Bowles defense is going to lay waste to your sorry team. How bout dat bish
April 28th, 2020 at 11:33 pm
Oh, wow! He just threw another pick 6!
April 28th, 2020 at 11:51 pm
Can Jameis still be put on the practice squad?
April 29th, 2020 at 1:59 am
Two face person. And coach.
Make no mistake. This season is all Brady’s. Offense and team. Brady wants to accomplish a SB without bill and win in AFC and NFC what better way to do it by having a HC he can tell what to do. Like … move out of the way !
April 29th, 2020 at 2:00 am
This ain’t about jameis.
It’s about a two face person that is being exposed to reality!
April 29th, 2020 at 5:32 am
He rooted cockroaches on while that had sex…….
Winston is garbage and if you think differently well your garbage…how many times he played in the playoffs??
Fsu is trash they produce mostly bad players except Derrick brooks dion sanders n few other guys…not exactly Miami hurricane tupe of quality
April 29th, 2020 at 6:13 am
Winston just threw another pick 6!
ndog is still garbage.
Go BUCS!
April 29th, 2020 at 8:43 am
Bruce Arians is not a good coach . He’s going to leave us just like he left the Cardinals .
April 29th, 2020 at 10:36 am
Ole stale biscuit sucks!!!!!!!! He will lead and leave this team in ruin!!!!!!!! And after the last 12 years of futility, that is really saying something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s time to herd the sheep and put them back in the pen!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 29th, 2020 at 10:48 am
DBS…JM contract confirmed…$1.1M for 1 year.
April 29th, 2020 at 6:23 pm
Of course Arians is partially to blame for the INTs.
The QB whisperer actually accelerated his turnover machine ways. 19 INTs the previous 2 years under Koetter, then 30 under Arians.
Nothing to see there though I’m sure.
April 29th, 2020 at 7:31 pm
So Jameis wanted $30 million a year but got a little over $1 million. If the Saints were so sure it was because of bad coaching they would have signed him immediately. Jameis is the 3rd highest paid quarterback on the team. Maybe the Saints should shutup and figure out how to beat the Vikings.
April 29th, 2020 at 10:16 pm
True JW had turnover issues but 33 TDS and over 5 grand yards shows the upside the picks could have been corrected and signing TB for 2 years I think will set us back years at the QB position while JW shines elsewhere. My gut tells me Tom won’t get us past the 1st round and it just doesn’t make sense in the Long haul
April 30th, 2020 at 12:02 am
Doesn’t matter who goes where or what they know and do.
No defense can stop Mahomes Magic!
Go KC…
April 30th, 2020 at 5:49 am
This isn’t trashing our staff it’s just an assistant touting his own coaching staff and I wouldn’t expect it any other way. This is the perfect scenario for JW and deep down I hope he succeeds. Eat some New Orleans humble pie JW.