More Round 2 Jacob Eason Rumblings
April 10th, 2020
Now this makes four well-connected and big-name analysts, including Rondé Barber, who have spoken publicly about the Bucs going quarterback early in the 2020 NFL Draft.
Last week we heard former QB and current SiriusXM NFL analyst Brady Quinn break down why big-armed University of Washington QB Jacob Eason is a fit for the Bucs in Round 2.
Three weeks ago, Pat Kirwan, the former Jets personnel chief and linebackers coach, howled repeatedly on national radio about Eason being perfect to sit behind Tom Brady.
NFL Network draft guru Daniel Jeremiah, a former NFL scout and college QB, joined the chorus on Path To The Draft on NFL Network, actually “mocking” Eason to the Bucs with the No. 45 overall pick (Round 2).
And the Eason song remained the same — big arm, needs to learn, tremendous ability to push the ball down field — so he’s ideal for Arians and his team of QB gurus. Jeremiah, for those wondering, sees Utah State QB prospect Jordan Love landing with the Saints late in Round 1.
Joe’s written this many times. Investing in a QB now is a wise move for the Bucs; they seem to have the perfect incubator for a rookie.
But Joe gets that the time to win with Tom Brady is now, and Joe would understand if the Bucs wait a year on addressing QB.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:19 am
BUCS MOST GO RB IN ROUND 1!
I did the analysis… if the Bucs don’t take Swift or Taylor in Round 1, and they wait until their 45th selection of the 2nd round, there’s a 90%+ chance they will miss out on Swift, Taylor, Helaire and Akers and have to settle for the #5 or worse ranked RB in this draft. There will be a slight run on RBs before that 45th pick because everyone knows the Bucs HAVE TO get a decent RB in this draft.
Drafting the #5 or #6 or worse ranked back in this draft is NOT an option. Any other year is worth the gamble hoping you find a diamond in the rough. But we can’t afford that gamble and need a game-changing back NOW for this season.
Bucs have to be bold and grab their back in Round 1 — even if that means trading down 5-7 spots or even staying put at #14 and taking them then.
I see the Bucs going:
1st: RB
2nd: RT
I don’t see them taking Eason in the 2nd unless they really believe in Haeg to start at RT all season.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:22 am
If we went QB in Rd 2, it would mean giving up a solid RB or safety (assuming O-line in Rd 1). I don’t think that’s wise. Agree with you, waiting until 2021 to grab a QB makes more sense.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:24 am
If you’re going to grab a QB in early rounds why not draft the blue chip guy (Tua) if he falls to 14. There is nothing exciting about Jacob Eason. OBVIOUSLY, I’d rather the Bucs grab an OT, but if they’re looking for a QB of the future Jacob season ain’t it, and he doesn’t have “it.” You know who has “it?” Tua. Spare me the injury crap he will be fine. Drew Brees, Brady have all dealt with season ending injuries. Next year will be even tougher to address an of future once Bucs finish year at 10-6, low draft pick and bare free agent market
April 10th, 2020 at 11:31 am
Wait a year, be smart.
I believe Tua is still a “?” unfortunately and I like him. You just cant truly know how well he’s gonna hold up to the punishment.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:35 am
Agree with drafting a QB.
Justin Herbert > Eason > Fromm.
Please not Tua or Love.
Latest CBS mock draft has Herbert falling to Patriots at 20th, via trade up with Raiders.
tickrdr
April 10th, 2020 at 11:36 am
Anthony Gorrdon Was.St.
Should fall to the third round maybe even the fourth round and the kid loves to play football… major competitor…
April 10th, 2020 at 11:37 am
How to notice posts that you shouldn’t take seriously:
1. Poster calling themselves and insider
2. Lots of exclamation marks
3. Typing the words “I did the analysis” without any actual analysis.
Now I’m not an “insider” and I can’t offer you lots of exclamation marks but based on my thorough “research” looking at a few random mock drafts it is likely that, at best, 1 RB goes in Rd 1 and highly likely that 2 of the top 5 RB’s will be available by pick 45. Cam Akers is probably going to one of those two. But we’ll see which one of us is correct Mr Insider.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:39 am
Jerry – I don’t disagree, but punishment should be the least of concerns considering he can sit for two years and learn from the greatest. If he’s cleared by doctors then I’d just rather have the 5 star guy. I think, sometimes people forget that if he didn’t get hurt, he was still preferred by most scouts over Joe Burrow. You’re rolling the dice anyway by taking some developmental guy in the middle rounds that may not ever pan out. The health thing is over blown, football players get injured, they recover and get on with their lives
April 10th, 2020 at 11:45 am
Joes do you think if Jameis doesn’t get any offers the Bucs may bring him back to learn from brady?
April 10th, 2020 at 11:48 am
Totally conflicted on this one Joe, just like I suspect you are (based on your last sentence). The ‘Win Now’ part of me says we STILL have holes in our starting lineup, and not a whole bunch of money to fill them with (ie, FAs). Thus every pick we have in Rnds 1-4 will be super important to fill (1) OLine; (2) RB; (3) DLine; (4) WR#3. The further down the line in the draft that we push those NEEDS, the less chance we have of finding a quality starter or key rotational player.
And yet another part says grabbing a QB in Rnds 1 or 2 would be great so he could learn behind Tom Brady. Still no guarantee he’d be successful of course, but for any young QB that’d be an awesome situation to learn in.
Nah, go for the throat … this year or bust. Draft what we NEED to succeed this year. We can draft a QB next year. If we’re gonna run with the big dogs we can’t be timid. All in or nothin.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:50 am
These rumblings are the perfect smokescreen to get someone that really covers Eason to trade up. He’s no way a Bruce Arians project, he’s another Goobert in the making.
April 10th, 2020 at 11:58 am
Blah, blah, blah like they know anything about the Bucs. I’m not aware but can anyone tell me what next year’s draft crop on QBs is, cus this one’s soft and we don’t need to use our 2nd round this year to sit under $50 million Tom Brady for two years. Trade up in the first next year and get a top QB to ride under Tom for one year.
Ppl always crying we need running game, we need oline, we need safety, and yet they think it’s a good idea to draft a QB when we just got a sure thing in Brady.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:03 pm
If Tua drops, that would be a great steal. But that’s the only QB I would draft before the 4th. Too many needs right now to spend a pick on some guy we won’t use for two years with a limited ceiling.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
Don’t need to waist a second round draft pick to sit on the bench for 2 years if the Bucs think they are a contenders to reach the Superbowl. We need starters, especially in the first few rounds. I think the Bucs see it too and will wait till after the 3rd to pick up a backup QB.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:08 pm
I think what we’re debating is draft capital not simply the need for Brady’s successor. We all agree that Gabbert MAY be ok as a backup but he’s not the future.
We still have time to take a “shot” in the 4th round or later this year and then go for broke next year. A rookie taken next year would still have a year behind Brady and if he’s a first rounder that should be enough time.
Meanwhile if our 4th or lower gamble pays off we don’t have to spend all that capital next year.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
That would be a tremendous waste of a 2nd round pick. Eason is a huge gamble and more than likely won’t pan out as a starter in the league. We definitely do not need to be wasting a high draft pick on a gamble. We are in win now mode. I am getting more on board every day with taking Swift in the first round. The big four tackles are being highly sought after because they are slated to eventually become left tackles. Bucs are looking for a right tackle. One of the second tier guys would probably be fine take in the 2nd to help fill that void.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:11 pm
SOEbuc- Therein lies the rub. By signing Brady, drafting a QB almost becomes a “luxury pick”. Gabbert is a sufficient enough back-up for now. It’s to the point where we really could wait for next year to draft Brady’s replacement.
RT could be a similar position. Say none of the top OL fall to us, what’s “plan B’? We desperately need to upgrade Safety and RB. It wouldn’t hurt to snag a stud DL either.
Good teams put themselves in a position to draft the players they want, not positions they need. Keep in mind that you may need to draft a position and there’s a “guy” there. The question is, is he “your guy”. We missed on a lot of players this way VHIII comes to mind. Right position, WRONG fit.
We need to be drafting smart football players and we need to be selective.
Could the Bucs go QB? Sure, lets just make sure it’s the right guy first.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Tua is fragile. He has bust written all over him.
I’d rather the Bucs fill immediate holes this season and trade up for a top QB in 2021.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Nate Stanley late 4th or 5th round. Do not need a QB in the first three rounds.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:24 pm
I think S and RB are 2 positions that teams are able to find starters in mid rounds of drafts much easier than qb, ot, dt. Looking at qbs, hopefully it’s either eason in the 2nd or James Morgan in the 5th. You can still find a starting rb or safety in the 3rd-4th round. Just happy as long as it’s not a 1st round qb or a kicker.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:24 pm
It’s simple: Win Now Mode
Phase 1: Fill gaps. RT, RB, S
-Grab the BPA (at one of those positions) in R1
-Use your board to fill in the other positions in R2,3. Make a trade if “your guy” is available.
Phase 2: Build depth. DL, QB, WR, OL
Don’t overthink it … or you’ll draft a K in R2.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
Tom S.,
I work with the NFL. But thanks for playing.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:35 pm
I’d be okay with Eason, in the 3rd or 4th Rounds, if he fell.
On RB, CBS Sports has rankings of:
(32) Jonathan Taylor
(40) D’Andre Swift
(46) JK Dobbins
(51) Cam Akers
(56) CEH
(155) AJ Dillon
(167) Antonio Gibson (this seems kinda low to me)
So our 2nd Rounder, pick 45, might be the sweet spot to take a RB. If it’s 3rd Round, maybe AJ Dillon or Antonio Gibson.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:44 pm
I don’t see it. OT, RB, Safety. Eason looked bad on film with pressure. Really bad. No poise. See Fromm later if there after 5th rd.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:51 pm
Those suggesting to wait a year are not thinking things through properly.
If Tom Brady wins a Superbowl this year, there is every chance he will retire after this season. Do you really want to have to start from scratch at QB next year?
Draft a QB in the first or second round.
So far as Jacob Eason, that’s who I actually wany, but I think it would be smart to trade back into the bottom of the first to take him…so it adds a year to his contract…and so no one jumps ahead of us to take him.
For RB, there are guys we can get later, in round 3 or so. Honestly, I don’t see a single RB worthy of a first round pick. Not really.
April 10th, 2020 at 12:53 pm
What we need at RB is a hard hitting short yardage guy. Around 6’1″ to 6’5″ and close to 250 lbs.
April 10th, 2020 at 1:17 pm
I agree with most that the Bucs if & when they draft a QB it should be Morgan in rds 4 or 5. OT #1 OL or RB #2 & go from there.
April 10th, 2020 at 1:26 pm
@Bonzai … ” hard hitting short yardage guy. Around 6’1″ to 6’5″ and close to 250 lbs”.
Go ahead Bonzai, you can name the name … AJ Dillon from BC. 6′ & 245 lbs. Close enough.
And as far as spending a Rnd 1 or 2 pick on a QB this year, no thanks. Rnd 4 at the earliest. Jake Fromm would be fine in Rnd 4 or 5, even though I doubt he’s the future. Never know though. And if Brady retires, so be it. (BTW, that’s just another reason why we should sign a quality veteran backup QB this year).
April 10th, 2020 at 1:26 pm
After taking CJ Henderson in the 1st round they better get an OT
April 10th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Bonzai
I certainly take your point about Brady’s retirement if he wins an SB here next year but I’m not sure I agree.
If Brady was doing this simply for record books he could have retired long ago.
I suspect that Brady does this primarily for ONE reason. He LOVES the competition…he can only get that adrenaline rush playing in the NFL. Tom Brady is still playing football for one reason…he IS a football player.
He’s consumed with competitive fire which he can only utilize in the NFL.
Everybody is talking like he’s not going to be able to physically last even the two years. I realize the risk of playing in the NFL…but if the Bucs continued to remain competitive…even though he’s announced he wants to play till 45 I wouldn’t be shocked if that goalpost gets moved…depending of course on his health.
So yeah it’s very rare for an NFL player to go past 40 much less 45 but there are pockets…areas…around the world where folks routinely live past 100.
Obviously not here in the good ole USA but there are tiny pockets.
Anybody here think they’re going to live to be 100?
April 10th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
Bucsfanman…that’s why we need to “build through the draft” for all the Jason Licht haters. Licht makes good deals on draft day and is a good scout. Ppl saying terrible coaching for so long, and it was true. Now we have great coaching and even before Brady, last year was very inspiring except for… you know… that one guy. But he also spent his short career under bad coaching. Unless we get Whirfs at 14 (lmao), we need to trade down in the first and I pray that’s the plan. An extra second round and two fourths would be huge. I’d be down to get a backup QB in the fourth or fifth just cus Gabert is thirty year old garbage. I can’t believe ppl don’t realize very gifted OL can’t be found R2-R-4 and even through the whole draft. And you have a very good offensive coaching staff to scout.
R1. Likely what ever RB is available.
R2. RT
R2. DT
R3. S
R4. OLB
R4. OG/C
R5. WR or QB (BPA)
April 10th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
Bucsfanman…I also forgot to mention Kinlaw at 14 to stay in the first. We only have two older gentleman on the right side that are only signed a one and two year deal.
April 10th, 2020 at 2:06 pm
SOE- I agree about Kinlaw because you essentially sew up your DL for the next 5 years if he works out.
April 10th, 2020 at 2:17 pm
StPete … “Anybody here think they’re going to live to be 100?” There was a time when I was convinced I’d never make it to 30 StPete and you know why. After that, it’s been just one day at a time, and being thankful for each and every one of them.
Guess I’m kinda like George Burns in that regard. As he was approaching 100, they asked him what it felt like. His response … ‘Well, every day I wake up, open the paper, and read the obituaries. If my name’s not in there I have breakfast,’
Smart man.
April 10th, 2020 at 2:44 pm
Totally psyched for 2-3 OL early but I can’t help feeling like they’re gonna roll with Haeg and vets so they can go RB round 1 and QB round 2… hmmm, maybe its just smokescreen season?
Surely, BA and crew haven’t lost sight of the truisms 1) sign Brady = win now and 2) draft value for 3rd down pass blocking/receiving RBs = late day 2?
April 10th, 2020 at 3:22 pm
And when I said OL can be found possibly in any round, this draft is STACKED with OL. Whifs or no OL in the first.
April 10th, 2020 at 5:03 pm
Im just not feeling QB this draft. RT, RB, Safety, WR….maybe if we grab a guy in the 4th with a move back into it, someone like Gordon. But still need a DT in case V gets hurt, also need to let.one learn behind Suh. I think next year is a better time for a 2nd on a QB.
April 10th, 2020 at 5:28 pm
I would be shocked if Bucs took RB in round 1, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we waited until round 3 to draft one. One of the top 6 RBs will likely be waiting for us in round 3 (Edwards-Helaire, Akers, Moss). If we love one in particular, we will probably take him in round 2.
I don’t think the Bucs will take QB in round 2, since we are in win-now mode with Brady. It is more likely we will take a flyer on a QB in rounds 5-7. Round 2 will be RB/WR/OL. Round 1 will almost definitely be OT, unless we love a WR there. Then we would take OL with our 2nd pick.
April 10th, 2020 at 6:48 pm
Every single article that I have read on this kid said that he is hot garbage under pressure. I’d rather have Fromm in the 3rd/4th round or just wait until next year.
April 10th, 2020 at 7:41 pm
you guys are drinking wayyy too much in your quarantine. there is no way tua falls past 3. hes a generational talent at the QUARTERBACK position! as for what we actually do in the draft, it’s crazy to say, but i actually trust the front office, whatever they do I’m fine with. they’ve put a really solid team together, i trust in whatever they decide to do
April 10th, 2020 at 8:35 pm
To me, the question every year at draft time is this:
Does your team have a “franchise QB”?
If the answer is yes, then those teams are definitely NOT looking for a QB.
So I doubt the Chiefs, Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, Texans, etc. are looking to draft a QB.
But if you already have the “Greatest of all Time”, the question changes to:
For how long? What then?
So, for me, the question again becomes the same as it was for Jameis Winston.
If Winston is NOT your “franchise QB”, then it does not matter one bit how much or how little you may have to pay him; any amount is NOT worth it.
So again, my question becomes:
Is there a “franchise QB” in this draft, and if so what you give to get him?
If your analysis suggested that the guy you like is the next Patrick Mahomes, shouldn’t your team explore every possibility to try to get him?
tickrdr
April 11th, 2020 at 4:24 pm
I’d be shocked if the Bucs wasted a pick on a QB, they’re trying to win now and if anything happens to Brady, the season is over.
Unless you convince Winston to take a lowball offer to be the backup for a year.
April 11th, 2020 at 6:08 pm
This is year to draft a quarterback I know every body is happy about Brady but he’s 43 years old and we don’t know what’s going to happen this season with Brady . What if Brady fall off ? Brady is a human he’s not a robot I know people don’t like hearing this but it’s true . We have to draft a quarterback this year .