The Bucs And A Burner WR
March 22nd, 2020
Wheels.
All this talk about Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders coming to the Bucs (Sanders signed with the Saints Friday) is driving Joe crazy.
The Bucs don’t need these dudes!
Over at Buccaneers.com Scott Smith, in a mailbag feature, floated the idea that second-year receiver Scotty Miller may start this season.
It seems like Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians loves a guy who can stretch the field and get past the defense. That’s not often Mike Evans and that is usually not Chris Godwin (though he is sneaky quick).
Now Miller made strides last year after a lousy start but Joe’s not quite ready to hand him a starting job. Miller must show Joe more; stay healthy and demonstrate more consistency.
Smith also tossed out a name Joe is really high on. That would be Penn State speedster K.J. Hamler. He did not run the 40-yard dash at the combine because he tweaked a hamstring in training. Hamler claims he ran a 4.27 when he blew out his hamstring.
(By comparison, Miller ran a 4.39 at his pro day.)
Aside from his speed, Joe really likes that Hamler is not shy about going over the middle, despite being 5 feet 8 1/2 inches tall. The crowd over at WalterFootball.com have Hamler, who they compared to DeSean Jackson, going on the second day of the draft.
Kamler told Joe at the NFL Scouting Combine that he keeps in regular touch with Chris Godwin and they share the same agent.
Smith also tossed out the name of Michael Pittman. Yep, that’s the son of youknowwho. Pittman, who played at USC, is a big target and not nearly as quick as Hamler but damn is he good.
Another reason not to spend large chunks of Team Glazer loot on bringing in Brown? This draft is absolutely stacked with receivers. Joe can assure you the receivers picked on the second day of the draft have a much lesser chance of wigging out and being a cancer like Brown is.
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March 22nd, 2020 at 9:00 am
Speed kills
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:05 am
Joe,
They won’t do it, that would mean they made a mistake picking Scotty Miller, why would they give him any competition, that’s not how the Bucs do things with players they speak highly of at the back of the roster. That is what I loved about the Dungy-McKay duo, always brought in real competition, preparing the next year with the exception of his all-pros
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:05 am
I like Hamler! Return specialist and quick-twitch slot guy that can run good routes and catch underneath/over-the-middle throws……sounds alot like Julian Edelman.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:07 am
If Brady vouches for Brown. Then you got to take a hard look at him. I’m no fan of the dude I saw on Hard Knocks and social media over the last 12 months. But if he is humbled and ready to get back in the league. Why not the Bucs w a team friendly, no strings attached contract. He has to know that he is not the WR1 or WR2 on this team. He is coming in to earn those roles and respect. First sign of “Diva-ness” tell him to hit the road.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:08 am
Keep Periman and stay away from diva/ego maniac receivers. It NEVER works out when teams sign them.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:10 am
Yes. Speed does kill. In fact, it is rumored that OJ was on speed the night he “allegedly” killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:16 am
Brown isn’t coming here for the same reason Winston isn’t. Too much drama, too much turmoil, and nothing to show for it. A NE fan friend of mine rejoiced at getting Brown last year. He said the Pats would turn him around, like they do with many players. While if anyone can rehab a player, it’s NE, I told him AB wouldn’t be there three weeks. When they let him go, he accused me (jokingly) of cursing him. First, I don’t really think Brady is a “good friend” of AB as AB says. Second, I doubt the Glazers would allow that, as stupid and insensitive as they seem sometimes (like raising tix prices three years worth amidst people losing their jobs and knocking the magic off the Brady signing). Third, I think the GM and coaches know AB would create a locker room disaster…like he did in LAR. Ain’t happening. I think Miller’s a #4 this year…maybe. if Brady wanted a WR he has history with, and who could also return punts/kicks…would be Julian Edelman. Old but effective.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:19 am
@MTM…I like your idea. Just would be surprised if Perriman would come back for #3 money again. Guess it depends on the market for him. And then there’s the Braday factor.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:25 am
We shouldn’t use our second round pick on a WR. You keep talking about the holes on the roster – OL, Safety, RB. Two of those 3 should be in Rounds 1 and 2. Receivers, tight ends, D-line, and LBs are currently are best position groups. Plug in elsewhere in later rounds of the draft.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:25 am
Hamler plays with an attitude, can play the slot, cuts well, can return punts, looks like he’s hurt on every tackle, and gets back up, and adjusts well to the ball.
Am I the only one that was reminded of Steve Smith?
The only questions is going to be need on day 2 of the draft. Is it OL? DL or DB? If Perriman re-signs, they are good for now.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:35 am
Possible back end signee for buccaneers.
Darryl Roberts. He has played special teams, corner back and safety for the Jets. He failed after signing a 3 year 18 million contract last year with the Jet’s but did better in Bowles system.
2018 played both corner and safety and special teams for Bowles. Made 5 starts at corner and 5 starts at safety ended up with 48 tackles 7 passes defended and 1 interception.
He was cut yesterday.
Besides his 725 snaps on defense in 2018, Roberts logged 210 plays and recorded four tackles on special teams.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:39 am
I think if they do bring in a FA, it will probably Perriman or Brady’s ex-mate Phillip Dorsett.
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:49 am
Hamler in the 3rd round or Claypool
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:53 am
that dude is awesome
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:53 am
KJ is a speed guy. However, his speed plays slower because he’s a straight line guy without much wiggle. But with that much speed, if he had wiggle too, he’d probably be a first round pick.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:12 am
AJ
Brown may at the very least be suspended form a good while .
It took five years to get rid of a chucklehead, why bother with one that is even worse?
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:27 am
Nice but better to get RB Anthony McFarland Jr in the 3rd before this guy.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:41 am
MTM Says:
March 22nd, 2020 at 9:08 am
Keep Periman and stay away from diva/ego maniac receivers. It NEVER works out when teams sign them.
March 22nd, 2020 at 10:49 am
It is ALL ABOUT the YACS !!!!!
hit ’em in stride and on time and big gains happen !
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:13 am
If either of these guys can return punts/kicks…..then OK….otherwise, pass…
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:33 am
gotta take Edwards-Helaire (sp.) or Akers in the 2nd if either is their. I’m a Role and an enormous fan of Akers, but I love what Clyde can do as well. So help me, if we don’t pick a an O-lineman in the 1st, I might just give up.
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:34 am
*if either is there
March 22nd, 2020 at 11:34 am
*Holy crap, I’m a Nole- lay off me autocorrect
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:06 pm
Don’t take an early round RB. We have greater needs such as OT, DT, DE and S. The Bucs can get a very good RB on day 3 – such as AJ Dillon or Patrick Taylor, Jr. The Bucs need a pounding RB in the draft.
I’m all for getting Dion Lewis as An FA to pair with ROJO.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:09 pm
LOVE Pittman Jr! He is super solid. Heard an interview he did on Sirius. He was articulate and really knew his game.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:11 pm
They will draft whoever TB12 tells them to.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:18 pm
I would rather see Adrian Killins brought in. He might be undrafted, so that would help the budget.
He has the speed, hands and can also be used as a running back. Might be the next Kammara.
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:26 pm
hmmm. nice one Joe….i cant doubt you. you got us Godwin with the promotion…a 3rd. This kid looks good too.
Your opinion on Chase Claypool if you have a minute?
March 22nd, 2020 at 12:39 pm
We don’t have to use a high pick to get the sleeper burner WR in this draft. Take a look at Trevon Grimes at the combine run as well as Perriman did in the 40 yard dash. Grimes was a 5 star recruit after starring for St. Thomas Acquinas HS helping them win two State Champions in football and he was a track star there too and was ranked one of the top WRs in the USA. He played for both Ohio State and the Gators. He is 6’5” and over 200 lbs. and has better hands than Perriman. He will be a late pick only because he did not get any thousand yard seasons since the Gators were loaded with top WRs and a great TE and threw to all of them. He is the best choice for the Bucs!
March 22nd, 2020 at 1:08 pm
Where has it been debunked that Brady doesn’t want input on roster decisions and play-calling? It was widely reported by multiple news outlets that it was one of his demands. If you are TB12, on the last couple of years of your storied career, last opportunity to add to your legacy in Bucs colors, do you pass on the opportunity to chime in or voice your opinion on roster decisions and play-calling? No, he is not going to pass on that, and I truly believe that barring any salary cap problems, whatever TB12 ask for, within reason, he is going to get for the offense side of the ball.
Now, for AB. I agree, he has been a diva and a head case. Who knows if he will be reinstated this year or not. But lets be real, AB was released from the Patriots last year because of off field issues and not because he was creating problems in the locker room. TB12 didn’t approve of his release, but he did not have a say in the matter. Those phone calls and text messages by AB, left the patriots no choice, he had to be released, protect the shield, right?
My only concern with this is, if AB is reinstated and lets just say the NFL gives him a eight game suspension, then he is eligible to sign with any team. The Seahawks, 49ers, Chiefs and I’m sure I’m missing a couple, will be tough teams to beat. I guess everyone is forgetting that AB is a force to be reckoned with, his stats on the field puts him in a category with hall of fame wide receivers. Check ya sheet on his stats.
Fellas, all I’m trying to say is, either he remains suspended for this coming season for his past transgressions. But, if he does get the green light from the NFL and the Bucs front office, the coach, TB12 and the rest of the players want him on the team. Then so be it.
Keeping him away from the those other contenders, makes our road to the Super Bowl this year just a little easier.
Go Bucs!
March 22nd, 2020 at 1:27 pm
Im in on AB too for a very cheap price if we’re not bringing back Perriman….but man, the ish Edelman could bring to DC’s facing us! Thats the ticket
imho
March 22nd, 2020 at 1:56 pm
Bucs Guy- very good points- love Lewis but I think we need elite talent at a low cost. Akers was behind the crappiest O-line in college football and was still extremely successful, btw he is a good pass protector. Clyde is a bowling ball that can do everything as well and rumor is he is a good pass protector. I still think Suh signs a 2 year deal with us. Losing Nassib hurts, IMO. We do not need a rookie Safety, we need a veteran presence back there. Of course, I will leave this to the experts but we passed on D Cook even after trading down and we just refuse to draft O-line, so maybe you and I are better than Licht, LOL. Suh is the key.
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:01 pm
If you have slept on Pittman, you need to go read up and watch some highlights. He’s just a big guy, solid WR, looks like a pure NFL talent. With Godwin inside, Pittman would probably step in on day one and play outside – and if the Bucs are lucky he might fall to them in the 3rd round.
Also the Bucs should see what the cost of Humphries would be. They need that quick underneath guy – Arians needs to add that to this offense. Hump would be a good fit if the Titans are eating most of his salary. As a 4th WR, Humphries is fantastic. The issue is people think he’s a #2 or #3, he’s not.
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:06 pm
I like Julian Edelman. He is one of TB12 best friends and they have great chemisty on the field together. He is turning 34, but can still play at a high level, 100 rec, 1,117 yards and 6 TDs last year.
Edelman is signed through the 2021 season with a cap hit of $9.67 million.
Will the Bucs be willing to give up a pick to get him on a trade? (3rd-#76, 4th-#117 & #139). Will the Patriots be willing to give up their best experienced receiver on the roster?
Again, a decision for the team and TB12.
I think it would make a great story line, good friends reunited. On a quest to bring a Super Bowl title to the Bucs and fans.
Oh, this is fun, to have options. Good/great players that want to play with the Bucs now that we have TB12. Yeah boy!
Go Bucs!
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:19 pm
First 3 rounds should be lines and a safety. Grab a RB and a speed WR with our 2 4th rounders. Grab the best lineman in rnd 5, lb and cb 6-7 ends and Sign Dion Lewis for the low. Offense is ready
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:20 pm
6-7 rnds*
March 22nd, 2020 at 2:25 pm
^ Yeah, ultimately, just go get Edelman! We’re going for the SB this year and almost have the pieces to get us there….our 3rd or 4th and a next year’s pick…its simple and cheap….AND A WIN!
March 22nd, 2020 at 3:22 pm
MadMaxx:
Claypool is a big target. Massive wingspan.
March 22nd, 2020 at 3:31 pm
time test
March 22nd, 2020 at 4:00 pm
What TBBF said.
March 22nd, 2020 at 4:31 pm
AB would make this offense unstoppable.
March 22nd, 2020 at 4:32 pm
Scotty Miller? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
March 22nd, 2020 at 4:43 pm
Good depth but the elephant in the room as far as i am concerned is Suh. Not a word about an important part of our D-Line.
March 22nd, 2020 at 4:51 pm
People who talk about locker room distraction are plain stupid and soft..if you think a guy whose on his last leg is going to mess up the bucs locker room when its his last opportunity and you think are locker room is that weak then we are screwed anyways..you guys mam are weak to even suggest it.
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:03 pm
If they are the same price, I’ll take Brown. Much better talent. All-in
March 22nd, 2020 at 8:32 pm
@Joe, thanks man….and he’s very fast. That guy has been on my radar for a while now….he reminds me a lot of Evans. If something happens and we dont get Edelman or bring Perriman back, Claypool is my guy. Could possibly be a TE prospect if we ended up trading Howard too.
The others mentioned are also nice finds in the lower rounds….Owlycat with Grimes and Rod with Pittman. Those first 2 rounds are going to be key to our future. And if something goes wrong and we dont get Suh back, then Im all in on Kinlaw if Wirfs, Becton and Thomas are gone. But if we can get Wirfs for RT, im a happy man.
Wirfs
Clyde
Claypool
Dugger/Davis for FS…but we’ll have to move back into the 3rd for them.
March 23rd, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Trade Howard for Edelman. Problem solved.
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:35 pm
I have also been calling for Howard to be traded before we got TB12. Howard seemed to let down last year when he was not going to be used as a receiver as much in BA’s system, but with TB12 our QB and BA working to alter his Offense to what TB12 needs, everybody knows that Brady was best throwing at his big TE until Gronk retired. I think Howard is smart enough to want to stay this year and become prolific with Brady like his days with Gronk and if that works it could give us a shot at the Super Bowl this season. So now I would say keep Howard and I bet Brady will tell that to BA too!
March 23rd, 2020 at 1:43 pm
BA would be smart to get video of all the Brady to Gronk successful plays and have Howard watch them all and get him psyched up to be a big star this year. He has plenty of Asst. Coaches who can make that happen and you will see a focused hungry Howard this year!
March 23rd, 2020 at 4:41 pm
Joe, we already know the Bucs don’t need these guys, so why do you keep posting stories about it? I assume you’re a fan of the team, so please stop trying to create controversy where there is none.