Rex Ryan: Tom Brady Thrived With No Line, No Weapons
March 18th, 2020
So what kind of quarterback did the Bucs get in Tom Brady?
Former head coach/defensive guru Rex Ryan has an answer, and he’s a guy who faced Brady 16 times as a head coach.
Ryan told ESPN that Brady remains a superstar and that includes how he performed lastseason.
“Offensively, they had Tom Brady and, uh, that’s right, nobody else,” Ryan said of the 2019 Patriots yesterday. “So, no offensive line, no receivers. I’m tellin’ you. It was a mess, yet he still led his team. So to me, that’s what he still brings to the table out there. … I still think Tom Brady is one of the elite quarterbacks in the league.”
Ryan is a rather straight shooter, so his comments should soothe the Brady doubters among Bucs fandom.
Joe will have more on Brady’s 2019 performance later today.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Bring up the INT% for active QBs. Jameis is last and Brady is 4th best. How does that help our chances?
March 18th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Jags trade Foles to Bears for a 4th. I’m telling you, Leonard Fournette can be had. Make the call!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Foles to the Bears!
Wow!
Traded for this guy and passed on Jameis as the backup?
March 18th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
Waking up today was surreal, I didn’t know if what just happened was a dream or was the greatest QB of all time really coming here??? To the Bucs!!??!?!?
I was afraid to check my phone to see the truth, that it was all a lie.
But I am happy to say I was wrong and…
BRADY
FREAKIN
CAME
HERE!!!!!!!!
You are all welcome for not jinxing it!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:42 pm
I feel like vomiting after all this “Brady buc fans “ .
Brady came to Tampa bcuz he was not wanted. He’s a patriot.
We took leftovers ….
2yrs from now what ?
You think Brady will win SB here …. think about Seahawks,saints, 49ers, Ravens ,chiefs , patriots, Steelers …. with our defense ?
March 18th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
Still need to draft THE QB of the future for this to work out in the long run
March 18th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
Adrnagy,
Dude, you are a wet blanket. If you cannot comprehend the magnitude of the GOAT signing with the Bucs (regardless of his age), then you either don’t understand football or are simply a pessimistic troll. Either way, be quiet and don’t tey to ruin this monumental day for the rest of us.
Go Bucs!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
Adrmagy, do you not see how this will impact our entire organization?
Brady will cause everyone to step their games up, from Licht to BA to the freaking janitors. Everyone will be on their A game now, no more throwing games away, every game there is a chance, and with Brady (even as much as Ive hated him for soooooo many years) you are never out of a football game.
The first rule in football is don’t bet against Brady.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:51 pm
It ain’t done until the ink is on the contract…
March 18th, 2020 at 1:51 pm
I think TB wants to be the GM in Tampa once he’s done playing.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:52 pm
Playoffs? Win one game.
NO excuses now …
Rodgers, Brees ,Wilson,Ryan, Brees. 9ers. Loaded nfc vs Brady playing in his weak afc. …
Will Brady have better stats yes.hes not elite. But you act like adding Brady solves everything…including our kicking issues.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:53 pm
Yes, SteveK
Many are seeing in actual time that in reality the QB so few have defended and made excuses for were delusional… Mike Mayock jumping at MM when he had his choice between the 2 was very telling… Now teams are trading for players giving up value instead of showing interest in Mr. Entert—- (yeah, I am not finishing that… It was always lame)..
Now let’s let him face into to past…
Bro, we got Tom Brady as our QB!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:54 pm
The offensive line is mostly solid here, just need to address RT. Marpet is a star and will finally get his long awaited pro-bowl selection.
I totally forgot about this, but one of Brady’s many backups was our man, Vinny Testaverde. Which is fun since Vinny was obviously drafted by Ray Perkins… and Ray Perkins, I believe, gave Arians his first paid coaching gig at Alabama (almost certain that is correcT).
Anywho, in honor of this connection it would only make sense to bring back the orange uniforms. It’s really simple, just go to 1987, hit copy > paste, and keep the awful people at Nike out of it.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
Adrnagy what a sour outlook. You go watch Jameis sitting on the bench for his next team. You can even get a Jersey. Don’t rain on our parade man.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
Adrnagy –
Filed under ‘ Not Wanted > Moved On’:
– Drew Brees / Chargers > Saints
– Reggie White / Eagles > Packers
– Simeon Rice / Cardinals > Bucs
– Adam Vinateri / Patriots > Colts
– Deon Sanders / Falcons > 49ers
– Kurt Warner / Rams > Cardinals
March 18th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
adrnagy
not wanted?….lol…lmao!!!!
JW IS NOT WANTED BY THE TEAM THAT DRAFTED HIM #1 OVERALL OR 31 OTHER TEAMS…..LOL…
case keenum got signed before JW….lol….
not worried about the: Seahawks,saints, 49ers, Ravens ,chiefs , patriots, Steelers …. with our defense BECAUSE we have a QB that wont spot those teams 10-14points off INTs…..
brady coming here proves we had/have the talent to contend….we were just lacking a competent QB……
JW IS A BUST!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:56 pm
If this comments will be made in person it will have a different impact,
Bangkok Buc Says:
March 18th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
Adrnagy,
Dude, you are a wet blanket. If you cannot comprehend the magnitude of the GOAT signing with the Bucs (regardless of his age), then you either don’t understand football or are simply a pessimistic troll. Either way, be quiet and don’t tey to ruin this monumental day for the rest of us.
Go Bucs!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
I haven’t been on here in a long time for multiple reasons mostly idiot fans and Winston. I read the site and all the comment everyday still.
This excitement is making me type they called themselves!
Tb to Tb wooooow!
March 18th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
And I haven’t even mention Jameis …. that’s how your rotten brain is.
March 18th, 2020 at 1:59 pm
I can’t wait till Brady gets to throw to targets like Evans, Godwin, Howard and Brate.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:00 pm
For those fantasy players OJ will be the number one tight end this year.I think Brady might convince them to do what he wanted to do in New England with gronk and Hernandez double tight-end set unstoppable.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:01 pm
Continued:
– Curtis Martin – Patriots > Jets
– Priest Holmes – Raves > Chiefs
– Charles Woodson – Raiders / Packers
– Steve Hutchinson – Seahawks > Vikings
– Peyton Manning – Colts > Broncos
March 18th, 2020 at 2:04 pm
bucco bruce- IMO Brady is going to reduce the value of every player for fantasy.
That’s not why we brought him in though. Jameis was an elite fantasy QB who put up gaudy numbers except in the Win column.
That’s what Brady was brought here to do, not sell tickets, not boost stats, not run a top five offense, no, he was brought here to win a championship.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:07 pm
I think the defense will be good, but they were awful for the majority of last season. They finished strong, but people seem to forget that they were on pace at midseason to be worse than Mike Smith’s awful defenses.
Anyone who thinks that Winston was the cause is what is called a fake news hack. We have a new superstar QB, the best of all time, and all the triggered idiots want to talk about is bashing Winston. At the same time they also pretend we have the 2002 Bucs defense… Truly a bunch of world class idiots.
Get excited by what we actually have. The Bucs have what we hope is a solid to good defense that can put a lot of pressure on other teams – and an offense that can hopefully continue to score points and move the ball. Brady is the best ever, and even if he isn’t still the best, you totally expect him to still be amazing. The team is a legitimate playoff team — which they were going to be anyways — and now a legitimate contender. That’s where Brady levels up the team. It’s exciting, it’s awesome, and yet dopes would rather tell fake news stories and gossip about their ex… Sad.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:09 pm
We still need a RB to help close out games while holding a lead.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
It sad, ….. Tampa players will finally get probowl nods but won’t be able to go because they will be in playoff games.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
I was a Jameis guy, even though I thought twice about it after the last pick 6, but you have to take the chance on Brady. Simple as that. The next 2 years we’ll be battling for championships. Jameis, as much as I loved him, is a total unknown. He could lead us to the playoffs or a top 10 pick. I wish Jameis the best, but you have to roll with Brady.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:11 pm
Beau Allen released today on IG…some more coin to spend!
March 18th, 2020 at 2:12 pm
Comical that all the people who were calling everyone else idiots and morons for not agreeing with them about Jameis are all the sudden not wanting us to talk about Jameis anymore now thats been made into the clowns they’ve always been. LMAO
March 18th, 2020 at 2:13 pm
Bucboi,
Not wanted. Yes.
We were the only team to offer a contract. And we are talking about the
“goat “..if that’s the Case why the patriots didn’t make it happen ?
Also, our defense is young and inexperienced in playoffs, and we should trust our defense in the playoffs, what about Matt gay in playoffs?
Playoff yes. Super bowl no. Unless we add some pieces in defense.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:14 pm
Arians wanted Winston to gain 20 lbs last off season so he would be better handling the hits that were going to come and they came.
I wonder if Arians is telling Brady to gain 20 lbs? Because those same hits are going to come. I guess we’ll find out.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Great post Rod!
I agree we were playoff contenders regardless of who our QB was going to be. Like BA said we could win with him, we could win with another.
This is the time for celebrating the acquisition of the GOAT, not for defecating on Jameis Winston’s name. That’s sad lowlife stuff right there. I get it, for some it is not beneath them but it sickens me to see everyone kick a man when he’s down.
Let’s move forward and celebrate, not denigrate!
March 18th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Alaskan Abdominal – The fantasy value of our WRs will go down. No way Mike Evans is averaging 18 yards a catch again, that him and Godwin are on pace for 1200 yards each. I think Evans will get at least his 1000 yards again, and Godwin will probably slide back to the 800 yard range, but that will only matter for fantasy, in real life the team should be winning more.
However at RB there should be a big tick upward depending on who the RB is. If we have someone that can catch the ball, then that player should be a PPR machine and score a lot of short touchdowns.
As for TE… I don’t know. OJ was a monster, but Arians just doesn’t like him. OJ also was really not very good last year and I have no idea why – I can’t imagine he just forgot how to play. Assuming there’s no behind the scenes issues, I’d hope that Arians modifies the offense to get the TE’s back involved in the game plan.
One of the big stats I saw, that is… concerning, perhaps. Last year Winston had something like 6200 air yards – which was nearly 1000 yards more than anyone else. That means Winston was throwing it deep, and doing it WAY more than anyone else. Meanwhile Brady only had 4200 air yards. That is very low. It could have been just the lack of talent at WR he had, or it could mean he’s really lost his arm strength. The deep passes I saw still look OK, but I didn’t see a ton of them. I need to go back and watch some games from the end of the year, but if Brady has lost his deep ball, then Arians will absolutely need to change the offense pretty dramatically. Doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing – as I said all last year, if you want Winston to throw less interceptions, then don’t call so many deep plays where he’s putting the ball at risk. But no riskit… Which, BTW, I was always fine with – it was the box score warriors who had a problem with it.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:15 pm
Yep Rex Ryan makes sense. And all those who say Bellichecks didn’t want Tom have no idea. They could be right but equally possible is the fact that Brady did not wanna play for that team no more.
They lost Grank and Tom was left with next to nobody(sorry Eldeman). They didn’t take care of Tom well enough and it’s very likely he wanted a better opportunity. New England is trending down even with Brady. Without they done.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:18 pm
Too bad Michael Clayton isn’t yelling on the radio about Jameis’s dismiss
two iconic Buccaneers
Clayton score his first NFL TD without his helmet
and
Jameis’s 1st and last Buccaneer passes were pick 6’s
March 18th, 2020 at 2:20 pm
Rod I am perhaps the biggest OJ hater here.
But with Tom Brady here I will cool my jets for a minute.
It does go against the rules to give a young player three years. OJ doesn’t deserve 4 but if anybody can change that formula it’s Tom Brady.
Actually loved the OJ pick at the time. But that fizzled out quickly.
For now I will wipe the slate clean. Fresh start. I expect big thing from OJ. If he has one bad game however I will imediatly turn my back.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:23 pm
Now draft an impressionable young QB in the early rounds (1-3) and lets set up the Bucs for SUSTAINED success!
March 18th, 2020 at 2:31 pm
JimmyJack – I’m not down on OJ at all, I just think he’s a bad fit for this offense where the TE is more of a blocker than anything else. It’s like Gruden coming in and using Mike Alstott as a blocker for Mike Pittman, it was insanely stupid and made no sense. But hey, we won a SB so how much could I complain? Well plenty, but we did win a SB.
I just hope, and I assume, that Arians will make some changes to be much more of a short passing game.
The downside of that, however, is that our WR’s are built for a deep game. Yes, they can run slants and short routes, but they’re more fast and big than quick and agile.
IT will be interesting to see how the playbook looks as I assume it’s going to be something that is a real mix of short quick routes with still a decent number of long shots, if Brady’s arm is still there.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:33 pm
Don_RyJo(e) – On that I disagree. The Bucs need to win right this second, not worry about 2 years from now. The picks need to be instant starters, probably a RT and WR with the top two picks – perhaps a RB, but Rojo was good last year at the end, so I don’t see why you’d do that. Bucs also need another S, so that could be there as well.
But a QB? Nah – win now. All in. Blow up the salary cap to sign everyone we can, and live with the outcome later.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:34 pm
Adrnagy Says:
If this comments will be made in person it will have a different impact.
I would LOVE that! I’ll make sure I travel into to catch a game this year. Will buy you a beer and we can watch Brady light it up for the Bucs together.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
If you are skeptical ask yourself these questions (honestly)….
Will the Bucs get more national attention with Brady?
Will the Bucs receive more prime time exposure with Brady?
Will the Bucs have a better attendance with Brady?
Will the Bucs sell more merchandise with Brady?
Will the Bucs get higher TV ratings with Brady?
Are the Bucs a better Team to attract FAs with Brady?
Will women like the Bucs better with Brady?
Will casual fans become more interested in the Bucs with Brady?
Your answer should be yes to all of those questions, if you’re honest.
Now….here are the two questions that the answer should be…..maybe.
Will the Bucs win more games with Brady?
Will the Bucs make the playoffs with Brady?
Now, after going through that exercise, how can you not be excited about Brady being a Buc?
March 18th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
THIS IS HUGE! The GOAT! A staff put together of elite coaches. The best WR duo in the league and Brate and OJ. Looks to be a rising defense and everyone going to play that much harder with Tom. And the dude is a killer in the huddle supposedly. Sign Suh and pay a premier RT. Use however much you want to pay more on depth and hopefully score some Nassib’s and Barrett’s.
R1. Trade back for Grant Delpit.
R2. One of the RBs (if the right deal looks good).
R3. DT
R4.-R.7= Depth and competition.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:40 pm
Yeah well the reason why I loved the OJ pick was because they said he was a phenomenal blocker(something Dirk Koetter even asked him to do often).
I don’t watch college ball so I don’t know why they said that but they were wrong.
And our OL takes a lot of critism for our lack of runblocking but OJ Howard was a large part of that problem.
But I will give OJ a fresh start now that Brady is here. I could imagine we add a few more wrinkles to how we use the TE.
I could also see us still trade OJ too. We shall see.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:50 pm
I hope a corona virus vaccine comes up soon. I am already planning to start my season ticket trail again. I gave it up after the Uber thing (and a few others, like Lovie)
Brady will lead Leftwich to new heights and have OJ in Gronk mode by game 4. Evans might also get to show some of that.
Godwin’s YAC ability will make up for the older arm of Brady.
Bucs can trade down in round 1 to get a free range safety and another second round pick.
Round 2: RB and RT
Round 3: IDL
4: two more O-lone guys, because some that look so good fail badly.
That is all I wish for.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:50 pm
TBbucfan…All I know about Brady is he has statistically shown stats that he won’t throw a pick six in OT the first play of the game in the last game of the season. Likely to get less pies thrown in his face. Like hospitals and Corona, we were getting short of pies for Jameis.
March 18th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
@SOEbuc, FWIW,
Tom Brady threw a pick 6 in week 17 at home against Miami which cost the Patriots a BYE.
The next week in the wild card game Tom Brady threw a pick 6 against Tennessee in a tie game with seconds to go.
Just the facts…………..
March 18th, 2020 at 3:01 pm
Donkc Says:
“Jags trade Foles to Bears for a 4th. I’m telling you, Leonard Fournette can be had. Make the call!”
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I tend to agree. Some say that Fournette has attitude problems, but it seems like that whole team was dysfunctional. Is it possible that he could work out great here in TB? He certainly is talented, and he and Devin White can help him get situated. (they are best friends)
March 18th, 2020 at 3:05 pm
Brady doubters = Jameis Winless crybabies
March 18th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Alaska and Rod, ariens doesn’t like tight ends Brady loves them Brady will get his way and OJ who did nothing last year will be great! I wouldn’t be shocked if the wide receivers stats went down a little!but I wouldn’t be shocked vice versa either! Win a Superbowl all that matters! I love this sh!t
March 18th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
I would be shocked if Licht and BA didn’t draft 2 Offensive linemen in the first 4 rounds. Bucs need to protect their 30 million dollar investment.
March 18th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Tampabaybucfan Says:
March 18th, 2020 at 2:36 pm
If you are skeptical ask yourself these questions (honestly)….
Will the Bucs get more national attention with Brady?
Will the Bucs receive more prime time exposure with Brady?
Will the Bucs have a better attendance with Brady?
Will the Bucs sell more merchandise with Brady?
Will the Bucs get higher TV ratings with Brady?
Are the Bucs a better Team to attract FAs with Brady?
Will women like the Bucs better with Brady?
Will casual fans become more interested in the Bucs with Brady?
Your answer should be yes to all of those questions, if you’re honest.
Now….here are the two questions that the answer should be…..maybe.
Will the Bucs win more games with Brady?
Will the Bucs make the playoffs with Brady?
Now, after going through that exercise, how can you not be excited about Brady being a Buc?
Exactly. It’s a business move and a football move.
March 18th, 2020 at 3:10 pm
If Brady was really worth $30,000 he’d still be a Patriot imo. They knew it was time to move on. We need to have a backup waiting in the wings. It will be a miracle if Brady survives behind this OL. Hopefully Jameis comes back as a backup, because Brady is anything but a long term solution.
March 18th, 2020 at 3:11 pm
JimmyJack Says:
“Actually loved the OJ pick at the time. But that fizzled out quickly.”
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And it stings that much more knowing that we could have had Dalvin Cook, and the beast that he is turning out to be.
But I agree with you JimmyJack, about seeing what Brady can do with OJ. He might completely turn the kid’s career around.
March 18th, 2020 at 3:12 pm
I think Arians told Brady, Winston could not read defenses and through jump balls imagine what you could with these wr. Also Chris Godwin is going to be even better than last year
March 18th, 2020 at 3:21 pm
So Ownership / FO & BA went all-in on a sales & marketing scheme to create MSM buzz, win the off-season & sell Merchandise/Tickets – in face of the coronavirus market losses & expected recession …Great. Now what??
What’s Plan B??? TB12 @ 43 is one missed blocking assignment from retirement. At 43, he’s a camp injury away from being Unitas as a Charger – except Unitas wasn’t locked in w/ a $60M+ guaranteed retirement fund.
As far as I’m concerned, it’s a piss poor football move. TB12 is not the same guy he was at 36-39…Your buying the down-hill slide 43-45 before he completely falls off the map & retires…2020 Bucs will be the 2019 Browns & GM/Staff may end going out the same way.
(Big Time FA additions that look great on paper, don’t always result in on-field success….But they do create Media Buzz that helps sell Merchandise & Season ticket sales…Which is what I see this TB12 deal being 100% about.)
March 18th, 2020 at 3:27 pm
1sparkybuc Says:
“If Brady was really worth $30,000 he’d still be a Patriot imo.”
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If Brady is only worth 30 Thousand, then yes we have a SERIOUS problem.
LOL, just playin’, i am sure you meant 30m.
And yes he is worth every penny.
March 18th, 2020 at 3:52 pm
Sparky,
First, Brady moved on from the pats not the other way round.
Second, the Bucs oline is above avg and isn’t as bad as you suggest…
Third, Brady is mobile in the pocket. Move so than winston. And, Brady doesn’t
have the number of injuries that winston has had compared over the last 3 years. He’s not injury prone. And no, the pats of line wasn’t good last year.
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The idea that signing Brady is a marketing plan not a football plan is ridiculous.
There’s no shortage of evidence from actual roster decisions to various comments made by Arians and the Glazer’s that lay out how they think about the season and they’ve done what they’ve said . Which means, the ..it’s a smoke screen …bs….is not applicable.
The Bucs upgraded the most important position on the field. The Glazer’s and Arians are in a win now mode and signing Brady is as big a move as you can get
.
March 18th, 2020 at 4:10 pm
I wonder what Rex thinks of Brady’s 43 year old feet?
March 18th, 2020 at 6:09 pm
Bangkok Buc
Ardnagy is from a group of Jameis lovers…most from FSU. They are still butt hurt that we didn’t how poor JW was the victim of our bad team.
You seem new here and you’ll figure out the players quickly along with their biases and lets be honest we all have them…I’m not talking racism just preferences for certain styles of play etc. Some like Defense Rules let you know where they are coming from with their names..others not so much.
I like offense but I always concede D.R. is probably right in terms of winning titles.
Do you live in Bangkok. I had such a great three day pass there in 1968 actually wrote a novel about it. But when I look at pics now it’s morphed into some cosmopolitan metropolis that I do not recognize.
March 18th, 2020 at 8:55 pm
Would much rather have Gordom or Gurley over Fournette
March 19th, 2020 at 10:01 am
Adrnagy –
It wasn’t that he wasn’t wanted. He wanted too much $$$ and a longer term commitment than the Pats were willing to commit. Do you think the Pats are going to be able to replace him with someone better this year? Over the long term it didn’t make sense for them to re-sign TB.