Phil Simms: Teddy & Jameis Together At Bucs QB
March 14th, 2020
This take got Joe’s head shaking back and forth, but considering who it’s from, it’s worth sharing.
Retired QB Phil Simms has a couple of Super Bowl rings and has been the top-dog game analyst at CBS Sports for many years. He’s a passionate guy but never blowhard and he calls it quite straight when he’s on radio interviews.
Simms was very relaxed this week on an NBC Sports podcast during a chat with his son, ex-Bucs QB Chris Simms, when the conversations moved to what the Bucs will do at quarterback.
The elder Simms believes the Bucs might be able to score Teddy Bridgewater in free agency and re-sign Jameis Winston at decent prices that would total like having one big-time quarterback and a good backup on the roster. ($37 million combined?)
Let them battle it out, Phil Simms said, and if the Jameis wins the job and the 2020 season unfolds for him like it did last year, then roll with Bridgewater.
Both father and son Simms don’t see Bridgewater as a starter in demand around the league and don’t think he fits Bruce Arians’ offense whatsover.
Phil Simms went on to liken Bridgewater to Alex Smith. Jameis is a better fit for Tampa Bay, he said, before relaying a story about how a backup Arians quarterback once told him how mad Arians gets if you don’t stand in the pocket and take a hit.
Joe found this all interesting, but Joe thinks it’s totally farfetched because Arians genuinely believes and has said, “if you have two quarterbacks, you basically have none.”
March 14th, 2020 at 1:32 pm
By “never a blowhard” Joe must mean “oftentimes”. This ain’t happening. Teddy Bear still seeking 30 mil/year?! Come on! Arians does indeed like his QBs getting drilled. Ask Manning ( neck?), Luck ( retired medical?) and perhaps Carson Palmer…who in fairness tore up his knee side steppin’ Mark Barron of all people. This is getting comical. Phil Simms…gifted an all time great coach and defense.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:34 pm
Why stop there? How about a Jameis, Teddy, Brady, Rivers combo… lol
March 14th, 2020 at 1:40 pm
That’s not not going to happen. BA does not want competition and Teddy has a backup job.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
No thanks to the turnover machine. I’d rather have Bridgewater or someone else, anyone else but the turnover machine. God, I can’t wait until this free agency period works itself out so we can stop guessing what will happen. The Buccaneer fan base, or at least a good portion of it, is ready for a change at the quarterback position in Tampa Bay. If the Glazers want to sell tickets and try and bring back more fans by putting a more competitive product on the field, start with getting a veteran quarterback in here (besides the ATM), and draft a rookie later in the draft after the offensive line is addressed and possibly running back. Go Bucs!
March 14th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
Only if the loser is cut at the 53 cut down
March 14th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
I’m a season ticket holder since 1997. If you watched 1 Jameis game, you’ve seen them all. The man don’t listen. He does what he wants to do and doesn’t learn from mistakes so the same things happen over and over again. Let someone else deal with the hard headedness. Move on and let another chapter begin in Tampa.
How does he justify wanting top money and not correcting mistakes? How long would Belichik have put up with this? 5 games. Maybe 5 minutes. This is 5 years folks. The problems are not going to change in Tampa. A change for both parties will be beneficial to both parties.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:48 pm
At least he realizes the Jameis is the much better fit for this offense. All the haters have WDS and can’t see the truth due to all their hatred of all things Jameis. My only concern is that Arians is ruining with all of his badmouthing of Jameis and he will take his talents elsewhere as soon as free agency begins.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:53 pm
Phil Simms and Chris Simms are idiots.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Really I have no strong opinion on Phil Simms.
However, this allowing 37 million on two quarterbacks and they battle it out just really sounds so stupid. I guess he still gets paid for opinions based upon his name and not any thorough analysis.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
Both father and son Simms don’t see Bridgewater as a starter in demand around the league and don’t think he fits Bruce Arians’ offense whatsover,
The elder Simms believes the Bucs might be able to score Teddy Bridgewater in free agency
then why would simms suggest scoring bridgewater AT ALL?
March 14th, 2020 at 2:05 pm
I am for this. 16 to each, with big incentives or penalties. One int a game for Winston, then yank. Teddy had 4 3 and outs in a row, yank. I know who my money would be on
March 14th, 2020 at 2:06 pm
This is not the worst idea I ever heard. Competition between those two would be interesting to say the least, and if the starter falters during a game or two you have a back up plan better than most of the league has. This would be interesting if it was to happen to say the least.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:13 pm
So let’s throw away half a season and then make a change. No thanks. We’ve been through this before. It makes no sense to sign two $30 million per year QB’s. How does anyone think this is a good idea?
March 14th, 2020 at 2:25 pm
This is one of the most outrageous ideas I’ve ever heard……we may as well save the $37 million and go with Gabbert & Griffin……buy some FAs on the market….Conklin, Ekeler Bradberry, Ha Ha…..and we can throw in Dee Ford for Joe…..
March 14th, 2020 at 2:32 pm
re-sign JW for two years then go to the draft and sell your sole if we have to but DRAFT TUA
March 14th, 2020 at 2:37 pm
I guess the Simms family doesn’t understand salary cap.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:49 pm
At least there is no bazaar “Brady to tamps” on this thread. Instead we get a more bazaar idea of both Jameis and Bridgewater on the same team. Boy, that sure makes a lot of sense. Cripple the rest of the team while handing out fat contracts for one QB that is a failure and another that we don’t know if he will fit. How anybody thinks that the GOAT will end his career with known POS franchise. Maybe for part ownership, but that’s it.
BTW, we can get all worked up over our QB, but there won’t be a season anyway. This virus is just ramping up. Even if we slow it down do you think 50,000 people are going to sit side by side in stadiums next November? Take a look at what the Spanish flu did in the second winter after it started.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:52 pm
Trade way back in the first for picks and player trades. Competition amongst depth is a good thing. I am one the non Licht haters in the draft. He is actually a good scout and knows how to trade picks well. Brought in the best coaching staff since Chucky and Monte. Bridgewater got wins playing QB with a team that is always at the top of the NFC South. Teams win. Not backup QB. They bring in GOAT Brady (and he stays healthy), this franchise would blow up in every way and we could possibly see the first home town SB win in history.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:55 pm
The new one (if CBA passes) or the old one?
March 14th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:
March 14th, 2020 at 1:32 pm
By “never a blowhard” Joe must mean “oftentimes”. This ain’t happening. Teddy Bear still seeking 30 mil/year?! Come on! Arians does indeed like his QBs getting drilled. Ask Manning ( neck?), Luck ( retired medical?) and perhaps Carson Palmer…who in fairness tore up his knee side steppin’ Mark Barron of all people. This is getting comical. Phil Simms…gifted an all time great coach and defense
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Can you name any now retired decent QB that didn’t go out with an injury? Elway and who else? It doesn’t happen often.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:35 pm
That’s has to be the dumbest take I’ve heard.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:36 pm
Joe and Bucs fans, Question: If Tom Brady takes his sweet time picking out his possible new team, do you think the Bucs will wait around for him, with a lot of the other QB’s being signed? I’m ready for free agency and ready for our questions to be answered.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:48 pm
Brandon Says:
March 14th, 2020 at 2:56 pm
Jonathan Limpchimpi Says:
March 14th, 2020 at 1:32 pm
By “never a blowhard” Joe must mean “oftentimes”. This ain’t happening. Teddy Bear still seeking 30 mil/year?! Come on! Arians does indeed like his QBs getting drilled. Ask Manning ( neck?), Luck ( retired medical?) and perhaps Carson Palmer…who in fairness tore up his knee side steppin’ Mark Barron of all people. This is getting comical. Phil Simms…gifted an all time great coach and defense
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Can you name any now retired decent QB that didn’t go out with an injury? Elway and who else? It doesn’t happen often.
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Many QB’s do indeed retire due to injury…including Elway. My point is Arians offense exposes the QB to massive hits. I forgot to add Roethlesberger who had multiple concussions running Arians scheme. Teddy Bear would have a tough time with his slight frame and already shredded knee.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
I agree with all who think this absurd. The money required to sign both would be a lot more than 37 million. That’s less than 20 million average…neither players will want to do that and if you then toss serious competition in a year whichever QB needs stats for his next contract…neither would go for it.
JW does not do well with competition…see Fitz who was run off primarily because BA didn’t want JW looking over his shoulder. Think that would get any better with Bridgewater.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:51 pm
Don’t think Teddy can take the hits that Jameis does.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:08 pm
@joebucsfan your site is so archaic it’s so damn hard to continue to come here. I know it’s part of your schtick but come on. I click a photo to get into the article like any other website on www. and it zooms into a pixelated rendering of the lead photo. Time to grow up, I know your sponsors would be happy. Your content is just as good if not better than (others), especially the podcasts but man it’s hard to keep coming back. Please make an update, I’d be happy to help you for free as a web consultant.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:20 pm
TBBF
Ekeler was locked up about a week ago.
Stop watching JayMiss film to look for excuses and pay attention please.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:21 pm
Bojim
Just curious why you think he can’t take the hits that JW does. He’s missed ONE game aside from the horrible knee injury. ACL’s can get blown on ANY player
The real measure of durability is availability. Teddy missed ONE game aside from the ACL injury in four years and one game in the NFL and two injuries at Louisville
And speaking of hits that Jameis took…are we sure of his health? Knee…hand…
March 14th, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Sapp:
Thanks for the compliment. The resolution to your issue is clear. If you want to read the article, don’t click on the photo. Click on the headline or the “read more” link.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:35 pm
Free Jameis!
March 14th, 2020 at 4:48 pm
ridiculous
March 14th, 2020 at 4:52 pm
Notice anybody say something decent about Jamise. You’ll start acting like a pack of rabid dogs on one bone trying to prove them wrong. Seems like alot of haters just plan ol’haten.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:13 pm
WELL , WELL , WELL…. I SAID FROM THE BEGINING BUC’S SHOULD HAVE NEVER DRAFTED WINSTON , SO HERE WE ARE … SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MARITOA……. AND WE WOULDN’T BE IN THIS MESS !!!
March 14th, 2020 at 5:49 pm
Joe: the current one which expires in 2021. With $80MM-ish to spend in 2020, to cough up “roughly” 1/2 on 2 FA QB’s IMO, makes no sense. Add the $37MM suggested to the $8MM-ish for draft, Shaq at $16MM. Want to keep JPP and Suh, add another $20MM each for 1 year deals. At this point, over $80MM. Respectfully not a Capologist, but to me, the numbers don’t add up if you keep the current, under contract roster in tact.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:50 pm
My bad, $20MM combined for JPP and Suh.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:56 pm
Sign Brady IF you can. Sign Teddy understanding Brady walks in two years. Now he has studied Brees and Brady for four years, or two each!! Team is Teddy’s after that … am I crazy or anyone else see the possibilities and opportunity here?
March 14th, 2020 at 5:58 pm
Yes, we’d be so much better off with Mariota. 🙄
March 14th, 2020 at 6:34 pm
Sorry but Chris Simms is a lot more intelligent an analyst than his dad. The Bucs are never gonna spend $37 million on Teddy and Aimless together.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:36 pm
Not a good plan at all. The Bucs are tired of the Winston shenanigans…this would just mean they weren’t sure, and it would trigger the BAD kind of QB controversy. Cut the chord, send Winston into the abyss.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:55 pm
Sound about right on Arians designing an offense to take hits- Dumb as could be
March 14th, 2020 at 7:33 pm
Well they should all consider the fact that in the NFL a slow QB decision (Winston) is way worse then a poor decision. What I mean by this is delayed throwing because of uncertainty is the biggest cause of both fumbles & interceptions. Winston struggles with both! His reaction time has put strain on the o line as well as the receivers who have to adjust after the initial route doesn’t work.
March 14th, 2020 at 8:09 pm
Phil must be senile.
March 14th, 2020 at 8:48 pm
The only acceptable way to move on with J is, sign him to a NEW REASONABLE LOWER CONTRACT WITH PERFORMANCE INCENTIVES. HE HASN’T BEEN WORTH THE SALARY HE’S BEEN PAID. LET HIM PROVE HE’S WORTH MORE.
The risk of continuing with him is the FAN BASE..BUT, If the Bucs become a playoff team the base will improve. NO ONE WANTS TO WATCH A LOSING TEAM WEEK AFTER WEEK.
SIGN A POTENTIAL FUTURE QB. FORGET THE FREE AGENT QB’S . AT BEST THEIR ONLY A BAND-AID AND NOTTHE ANSWER TO LONG TERM SUCCESS. I ALSO THINK WE NEED A TRUE BREAK AWAY RUNNING BACK THAT CAN CATCH AND BLOCK. ALL THE TOP TEAMS HAVE AT LEAST ONE OR MORE. TODAY YOU CAN’T BE A COMPETIVE TEAM JUST PASSING.
USE THE CAP MONEY SAVED ON A REASONABLE CONTRACT FOR J, TO IMPROVE BOTH THE OFFENSE AND DEFENSE.. TOM
March 14th, 2020 at 8:59 pm
If Brees wasn’t coming back, Teddy would be the starter for Payton in N.O. on opening day. Good enough for them should be good enough for us. If Teddy was starting for N.O. next year, and JW was coming back as our starter what team would be picked to win the NFC South? Of course N.O. would be favored even with Teddy at QB. That’s all you need to know.
March 14th, 2020 at 9:24 pm
Let’s simplify this I believe Chris Sams smokes more weed than Phil Simms I believe Phil Simms is feistier than Chris Simms but in the end Phil Simms is basically a tool !!! His mouth moves on limited knowledge way too much !!!
March 14th, 2020 at 9:35 pm
Isaac
I like your take. I knew there must be a reason why I’ve always like Chris a lot more than his old man…he smokes weed!
I do not dislike Phil or diss him…he just bores me a bit…Chris is more interesting.
March 15th, 2020 at 2:24 am
Bring in any qb Jameis will beat them up