Mocking The Bucs
March 14th, 2020
Who did he pick?
By the time the draft hits — and who knows, maybe not until the end of May? — Joe will want to vomit he will be so sick of mock drafts, only because Joe wants the real thing to take place.
(Joe would much rather see the draft delayed a month or more rather than for the Las Vegas event to be shutdown. That would be a major hit to the Vegas economy as that area is geeked to show off being a new home for the NFL. Besides, so many NFL fans were headed there. A regular reader of Joe’s who is an executive at a major casino on the Strip told Joe hundreds of thousands of NFL fans were expected.)
Since there are no sports for the foreseeable future as we all dig in to prepare defensive strategies against the coronavirus pandemic, NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks did a live mock draft today.
And who did they have the Bucs take? Defensive tackle Javon Kinlaw of South Carolina.
To Joe, Kinlaw is a total beast, and drafting him tells Joe the Bucs cannot keep Ndamukong Suh.
Joe has to wonder if part of the plan to bribe Tom Brady to come to Tampa Bay is the possibility players who may have been seriously considering leaving the Bucs would be more apt to stay with Brady behind center?
Or perhaps Brady might help draw another free agent or two to the Bucs?
Just look at the reaction of Bucs sack king Shaq Barrett to the possibility of Brady coming to town?
March 14th, 2020 at 12:06 am
This has to be an easy draft for the Bucs, go with either the best offensive or defensive lineman available.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:06 am
Its funny a one year wonder has so much leverage over a desperate fanbase and an organization void of leadership. I guess if brady does come, he will be the first person in the building with a sack since sapp left…. lots of estrogen in that building for the last 18 years. Glazers making feeling first bad decisions is thier go to move. Whoever bucs draft will be for the next washed up regime.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:26 am
we need some power rankings for mock drafters
March 14th, 2020 at 12:37 am
Mister:
Here are a couple of links.
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/mock.scores.shtml
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/accuracy/mock-drafts.php
March 14th, 2020 at 1:08 am
JW “Haters or Fans” should mourn/celebrate that JW will NOT wear the new Bucs uniform in 2020. JW is GONE, imho. BA has cemented that outcome with his offseason JW comments.
Only option for JW fans returning to Bucs is if BA/Licht are superb negotiators, who intentionally devalued JW in the market — to extent that JW re-signs w Bucs, for team friendly deal. Feelings aside, this outcome could be best for all. And feelings don’t matter in business!
Moving forward – if Bucs QB in 2020 is Brady, Bridgewater or Rivers – the key for QB success is drafting stud OL and RB in Rd 1-2.
With one of these QBs, along w/Bucs < 15 TO's AND the young Bucs D matures to be consistent — Dayam. Playoffs!
However, if the past trend of Bucs D killing it at end of a year, only to nosedive for first 8 games of following year, it will not matter who is new QB. That new QB will have to put up 25-35 points a game, for Bucs to win.
Still not confident our D can hold our future opponents to under 25 PPG. – Meaning, the new QB has to be able to put 3 TDs per game, along with kicker success.
Curious where JW will land. With each passing day, and BA information leaking —will not be Bucs. Unless all the information is planted to get JW to agree to low-ball contract.
Dang -I am so bummed the FA situation got extended, as I want the answer yesterday
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I think JW lands either with Gruden or Belicheck, as backup waiting for the starter to falter.
Best to all Fans for safe health in this crazy COVID19 situation.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:21 am
Easy joe
He aint gone yet
March 14th, 2020 at 1:24 am
Just heard they want your pick
JMeis vs johhy
You have bean like a sniper
March 14th, 2020 at 1:31 am
Agree with Dan and will add if top shelf isn’t there trade down as this draft has solid depth.
I want this entire D resigned.
A new starting RT.
Added RB – draft or FA
Leftovers for QB – how eager would Evans, or any other Vet, be eager to take less $ to play with TB?
In BA I Trust!
March 14th, 2020 at 1:39 am
Suh is very replaceable. Even if we bring him back, we need to draft his replacement
March 14th, 2020 at 2:00 am
If the Bucs land Brady , I think the cap hit for everybody outside of Godwin and Barrett would be lower . Even free agents outside of the organization would come cheaper
March 14th, 2020 at 2:04 am
Would give more flexibility in the draft . Maybe signing Brady entices Bulaga and we don’t need to spend a high pick on a tackle .
At this point , everything is relevant.
March 14th, 2020 at 2:07 am
Sport Says: Leftovers for QB – how eager would Evans, or any other Vet, be eager to take less $ to play with TB?
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@Sport: That answer depends on career cycle for the WR contract. ME13 is in second contract – not changing, and good money. ME13 wants to win badly, but is not going to change his contract to get TB. Godwin is still waiting for his first big contract and payday.
Let us assume Bucs reward Godwin this cycle. Then – Godwin is good to go, and happy to have TB as super-accurate QB. Will help Godwin career.
BUT, if Bucs Palace decides to hold off on Godwin new contract now, as they could – gets dicey for Godwin w new QB. Godwin contract $$$ are dependent on yards/TD’s, etc. – All very positive w/JW as QB history.
TB is GOAT QB. Godwin as TB go-to in short, medium, long passes with TB accuracy will enable Godwin YACS, and will be crazy good for Godwin.
On other hand, what if TB is pounded behind our O-line? Until I see different (AKA Cowboys O-line for DAK), I still think our O-Line is suspect. JW covered up a lot of sins for Bucs O-line. JMHO. Will be interesting to see how TB is able to operate under the Bucs same O-Line and maintain his efficiency and accuracy.
I hope TB is wildly successful. Especially with his new weapons (ME13 & Godwin)
Licht has to draft or sign a stud RB for TB. Heck, even for Jameis. Imagine last year if Bucs had a prayer of RB gaining a first down, when we were leading the game in 4QTR. I digress.
Oh well, come on down TB – new Bucs QB!
March 14th, 2020 at 2:27 am
Redzone,
Brady would elevate the oline.
March 14th, 2020 at 3:23 am
Red – interesting points. I do believe Brady will make any oline he plays with better. I feel this line made strides and did some good things. It also seemed like teams stacked up against the run and dared us to throw it. That puts a lot of pressure on the line, QB and makes the run blocking look awful.
If teams try that against one of smartest and clutch QB’s in the history of the game, watch out NFL!
In BA I Trust!
March 14th, 2020 at 3:43 am
Kinlaw would be a great pick.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:09 am
Joe–
Why would you want the draft to be delayed a month? Is there a coronavirus vaccine in the near future? Everything I’ve read indicates the earliest hope is for November. Obviously, I pine for a more expeditious time frame, but what good would it do to postpone the draft for a month when all indications are that the virus will become more widespread until there is a cure?
The sooner the better, I say …
March 14th, 2020 at 4:16 am
Ted Johnson: Why Bill Belichick may want Tom Brady to sign with Buccaneers
March 14th, 2020 at 4:35 am
I can’t believe so many people want Tom Brady at this point in his career come here. He will never consider himself a Buccaneer. The team wouldn’t even get credit if they did win. They’d just say Brady won despite how well the team played around him. Did you’ll watch him play last season? I hope it wasn’t a sign of things to come because he wasn’t very good. We may never no but I still like Winston in his 2nd year in the system, with WRs he knows well than Brady doing his best Jorden to the Wizards impression. I hate seeing once great athletes tarnish their legacy.
March 14th, 2020 at 4:43 am
I was a Kinlaw guy (if the 4 OTs are gone) but I’m starting to think Chaisson would be the better choice. Hopefully the position priority will clear up soon. But everything seems to be up in the air lately.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:19 am
Been saying the most expendable on the Dline is Suh (play-wise)…but I think he’s more likely to return than JPP.
That’s why it is important to re-sign Nassib. Quality depth, and in his limited starts he did very well.
I think the NFL has no choice but to delay the start of free agency. At least for a few days. It isn’t just about signing new free agents, but also about re-signing free agents. Teams are going to need more time.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:13 am
I normally like Jeremiah’s predictions, just not this one. Folks keep forgetting that free agency comes BEFORE the draft. The only way drafting Kinlaw makes sense is IF we didn’t re-sign Suh (we will), IF we’ve already signed a FA OT (we won’t), and of course IF Kinlaw falls to #14 (he probably won’t).
Bucs NEED to bring back our own UFAs on the DLine (JPP, Suh, Barrett AND Nassib). THAT was our bread & butter last year (#1 against the run & strong pass rush). But this Front-7 also ranked way up there in a number of categories that folks rarely mention:
(1) QB Knockdowns – #1 with 66;
(2) QB Hits – #2 with 117;
(3) QB Pressures – #4 with 175;
(4) Sacks – #7 with 47; (5)
TFLs – #5 with 87.
That pressure is largely what allowed our Bucs to rank #1 in another category … Passes Defensed with 96 (7 PDs AHEAD of the vaunted NE Patriots’ defense who were #2 in that category and ranked #1 as a defense overall).
Bottom line: Don’t mess with what’s finally working. Yes we need to improve our DLine & LB depth. Yes we need to improve our Safety situation. But don’t compromise what’s working to do that. Use our top picks to fix the OLine & RB situations in the draft instead of spending big bucks in FA (that we don’t have) to do that.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:28 am
I’ll be In Vegas, already booked the flight and hotel. Hope the draft still happens on date and time. Keeping my fingers crossed.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:53 am
This is exactly why signing Brady makes little sense…..he will cost too much.
That will keep us from resigning (at least Suh) and force us to draft a DT to replace him instead of an OT…
And if Brady is the choice…..he will want a OT & RB….and we will likely need a young QB to develop.
Save some money with Bridgewater or Rivers and resign our defense…..draft an OT & RB in the first 3 rounds.
March 14th, 2020 at 7:14 am
I hope the NFL doesn’t delay free agency or the draft. It already drags on too long after the Super Bowl. The CBA fiasco has made it even worse this year.
Re-sign most of our Def players, pick up a Safety, CB, backup RB and backup DT in FA. Trade OJ for 2nd and 4th. Trade for Carr if Brady goes to Vegas. May need to settle for Bridgewater.
I’m concerned a top 4 OT will be available. Brown and Kinlaw could be gone also. If so, trade back to #21 with Philly for an extra 2nd round pick. Get Josh Jones OT at #21. Get the DT from A&M, a Guard and DE in the 2nd. WR (Claypool) in the 3rd and RB (AJ Dillon) in the 4th. LB and OL to round it out.
I know a lot of people want a speedy RB in the 2nd. While I’m meh on ROJO, if you take one of the discussed RBs in the 2nd, you are tossing ROJO in the trash. I think it’s too early for that. Give him one more year. Besides, the Bucs need a power back — especially for short yardage. That’s Dillon or Patrick Taylor, Jr.
March 14th, 2020 at 7:22 am
I really don’t understand how delaying FA mitigates the coronovirus…….there aren’t large crowds……very little travel……anyone care to explain….perhaps I’m missing something.
March 14th, 2020 at 8:28 am
TBBF & Bucs Guy … Preach on.
March 14th, 2020 at 8:45 am
ha thanks Joe!
March 14th, 2020 at 9:28 am
If the Bucs are going to invest in re-signing FA DLinemen and Brady or Bridgewater, then the strategy has to be win now.
If you want to win now, you have to upgrade the running game.
That means you need an impact RB to go with ROJO.
Joe always talks about production- well no college RB produced more than Jonathan Taylor- he’s been compared to Elliott and Barkley- and I don’t care about draft projections- Henry was a 2nd round pick.
You can sign Conklin or draft an OLineman in 2-3 round.
If you have a true weapon at RB, you don’t need expensive Brate
March 14th, 2020 at 9:30 am
Redzone you do realize the Bucs are a longshot to get Brady. LA and NE are the heavy favorites. Yo act like he has signed already. Will be good for the Bucs to get him in 2020 win or lose. Long term for the franchise this is a terrible idea. He is 43!!!!!
March 14th, 2020 at 9:39 am
Joe says: Joe has to wonder if part of the plan to bribe Tom Brady to come to Tampa Bay is the possibility players who may have been seriously considering leaving the Bucs would be more apt to stay with Brady behind center?
This is the nugget that has not been explored enough.
I’ll bet the D has complained to BA about continually having to go right back out on the field after so many interceptions that they were so tired at the end of the games and couldn’t make a stop late in the 4th.
Not to mention how demoralizing it is to see your own QB gift so many points and turn the ball over so many times a game.
My guess is getting rid of JW has been a suit / coach / team decision.
Most of all it was a JW decision. After 5 years JW still don’t get it?
No one to blame but JW.
March 14th, 2020 at 9:43 am
My Bucs Mock:
Round 1
14. Trade – Bucs trade 1st(14) and 6th round to Miami for 1st(18) and 2nd (39)round pick.
18. Bucs choose Jedrick Wills (or) Andrew Thomas OT
Round 2
39. (From Miami) Bucs choose JK Dobbins RB
45. Bucs choose Marlon Davidson DT
Round 3
76. Bucs choose Jalen Hurts QB
Round 4
117. Bucs choose Jonah Jackson OG
139. Bucs choose AJ Dillon FB
Round 5
161. Bucs choose Joe Reed WR/KR
Bucs also sign a veteran QB (Brady, Bridgewater, Rivers), re-sign Barrett, JPP, Nassib and Suh.
March 14th, 2020 at 9:45 am
Can’t picture Gisele in Tampa Bay,..sorry.
March 14th, 2020 at 9:46 am
With Jeudy and Ruggs on the board i’m fairly certain Licht would trade or just pick one of them. Top flight WRs are way more valuable than non-passrush DLine. Even with Evans and Godwin on the team.
March 14th, 2020 at 10:04 am
For those of that have issues with Brady’s play last year, I saw a few things I didn’t like either. He also had no weapons to work with.
As far as the other options coming in cheaper, I’m not so sure that’s the case. Starting QB’s get paid A LOT.
The best budget option would be to trade for Carr and his cap friendly contract. Which is my preferred choice.
In BA I Trust!
March 14th, 2020 at 10:07 am
With the QB carousel not even warmed up, it is impossible to mock this draft.
AKickInTheBucNuts makes an interesting observation: if Brady signs (which I doubt, but encourage), how many Buc FA’s would take a little less $$$ to play with the GOAT, knowing the team would have a vastly superior opportunity to excel?
March 14th, 2020 at 10:12 am
Joe, is wanting to save Vegas’ gambling economy (and in was born in Reno and lived in Vegas) selfish?
March 14th, 2020 at 10:15 am
If the NFL wants to give a fix to NFL junkies like me just hold the damn draft as scheduled on TV!
March 14th, 2020 at 10:17 am
^ Sorry man, I don’t agree at ALL that it would be wise for us to take a WR.
We are considered to be one of the wealthiest teams in the league at that position.
March 14th, 2020 at 10:17 am
^ to DaMayan
March 14th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Cobra, the Bucs are not going to the SB with our without Brady. Why would any player hitch his wheels to a 43yo QB on a mediocre team. Now I could see if he was signing with a team like San Fran as some other aging vets might view it as one of their last chances at a superbowl.
Jeagan, why would the Dolphins give up a 2nd rounder in the draft to move up four spots? Assuming they already drafted their QB, what is so valuable at 14 vs 18 that they give up a 2nd for? If you’re going to make these types of hypothetical trades their should be at least some rationale for it. Also, most likely neither Thomas or Wills will be available at 14, let alone 18.
March 14th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Joe, is wanting to save Vegas’ gambling economy (and I was born in Reno and lived in Vegas) selfish?
March 14th, 2020 at 11:06 am
Definitely hold draft on TV… absence of those silly bro hugs with Goodell would be a plus. Besides, the draft is forward looking and everyone would benefit from an event focused on the future and not the chaos of the here and now. Of course, all bets are (and should be) off if you have 10,000s on ventilators but hopefully all the shutdowns will tamp down some of those numbers.
March 14th, 2020 at 11:32 am
^^ It would be sort of reminiscent of those old 80s drafts with Pete Rozelle, up there, just reading the draft pick.
It would still be GREAT television for us NFL/BUCS nuts…. especially during this time when we are being starved sports-wise.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
TouchDownTampaBay….”Jeagan, why would the Dolphins give up a 2nd rounder in the draft to move up four spots? Assuming they already drafted their QB, what is so valuable at 14 vs 18 that they give up a 2nd for?”
It is a very fair question you ask. Originally when looking at possible scenarios, I had the Bucs staying put at 14 to take an OT. The only reason a trade w/Miami crossed my mind was something I saw on the NFL Network where one of their “insiders” mentioned that Miami had expressed interest in pass rusher/OLB K’Lavon Chaisson, and that many mock drafts had him going to Atlanta at 16. Since this is not a particularly strong draft for pass rushers(outside of Chase Young), and because Miami had so many Draft picks, I thought they might be willing to leapfrog Atlanta to get to Chaisson. But, I will admit, it is a bit of a long shot. I would be perfectly happy with the bucs staying put at 14 for one of the top OT prospects, then going JK Dobbins, Taylor or one of the other RB’s in the 2nd.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:20 pm
TBBF and DR
You know I agree with you guys 99% of the time…and you certainly may be right this time…I just believe Brady is far more than just his talent or record.
I absolutely agree with you guys though we can’t break the bank and ALL the cap space should come from the O if we give Brady more than 30. As in Brate…Perriman…and a few others who put together could fill in that gap.
So my question for TBBF…D.R. anybody who thinks Brady is just too expensive…I get that…but would you accept him if we still had enough to sign our D FA’s…as in cutting Perriman and Brate or any other creative moves to get the cash.
Instant crediblity…TRUE leadership…the ability to make others around him play better.
Re that last point does anybody really believe JW made the players around him better?…Please do NOT bring up ME or Godwin..they were great before JW and would be great without him. They are not only supremely talented they are highly motivated class acts.
Who on this offense played BETTER than they should have played. Did we really get 100% out of our OL…TE’s?
March 14th, 2020 at 12:26 pm
^ You always put a great deal of thought into those posts, Jeagan1999. Well done, sir, and thanks for sharing that.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
stpetebucsfan Says:
“…I just believe Brady is far more than just his talent or record.”
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AGREED.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
We better sign RT Conklin or Bulaga or we are in deep do-do. Who in the heck is playing RT for us next year? Nearly every decent RT in this draft is gone by pick #13.
I hope at least one of the top 4 OTs fall to us at #14.
March 14th, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Tampa Bay Demon Says:
March 14th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
stpetebucsfan Says:
“…I just believe Brady is far more than just his talent or record.”
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AGREED.
I agree with you both! Brady brings a great mind for the game, a winning mentality and work ethic to the table too! And while he may not be physically quite the same QB he was 5-6 years ago, I think he still has some left in the tank. This is a guy that takes extremely good care of his body….he has personal trainers and nutritionists, etc….so I am not so worried about the 42 yr age as I might be with other guys.
This guy could be just what a franchise that has been mired in losing ways for many years needs. Leadership, a winning attitude and a very good football mind!
March 14th, 2020 at 12:47 pm
@Jeagan
Agree with Demon…thoughtful post on the draft.
I certainly like your results…especially if we could get Jalen Hurts in the 4th!
I think he’s the sleeper QB in this draft. Nothing spectacular perhaps more like Dak.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:06 pm
Thanks for clarifying Jeagan. Makes sense now. I am kind of hoping for a trade down as well. I would be fine with Josh Jones out of Houston late in the first round. We are drafting for a right tackle which isn’t as critical as the left side. I think Jones or Austin Jackson would be fine. If we could trade back and pick up an extra 2nd rounder that would be ideal.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:29 pm
TouchDownTampaBay, I’ve seen several mocks where they have the Bucs getting one of the top 4 OT’s in the Draft….Wills, Wirfs, Thomas or Beckton. But I agree with you, I would be happy with either Jones or Jackson further down too. And getting an extra pick is always a bonus, if you can still get one of your target guys.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:36 pm
Yeah Thomas is the guy I would love to get. He has played both sides at UGA and is supposedly a great run blocker in addition to the pass blocking.
March 14th, 2020 at 1:45 pm
@stpetebucsfan….I really like Hurts too. I think he will be available in the 3rd round. From everything I have seen and read, besides the physical tools…which are very impressive…he is also a very intelligent and high character guy.
He could learn a lot from a veteran QB like a Brady or Bridgewater, if we sign one of those.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:06 pm
Seeing as the situation is what it is I say the Bucs trade away all of their draft picks for toilet paper.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:56 pm
Touchdown,
You stated that the Bucs are more than a single player away from winning the superbowl.
But does B.A. , Licht and team Glazer believe it. Because that’s the group making the decision and the Glazer’s have been operating under an assumption that the team is close. A player or two away from competing for the division. This team as bad as it’s been hasn’t been in a rebuilding mode for 5yrs. Win now or next year but that’s as far as it goes. The Glazer’s are operating upon a different set of assumptions than you. Is TB is the 1 missing piece , outside looking in, no. But that’s not how the decisions are being made.
Brady back in NE. possible but all indications from people who are in the position to offer an informed opinion, all say TB is gone. There’s no argument that Brady resigns at this point. Everything is pointing against it. This includes the 1 year offer the pats just made. Less money , 1 year. How do you arrive at a completely opposite outcome?
The SF idea is interesting in how it relates to the Bucs. SF wasn’t on anyone’s radar last year, they weren’t a player away either.
Not a single person thought the 9ers were better than the Rams going into the year. This is last year, why would you dismiss this and then assume that the 9ers are contenders THIS year. The bucs could be next year’s 9ers. Think not?
Ok, but you didn’t think the 9ers would be there eIther, no one did.
Last, the way you worded the idea of being a player away from a win next sb,
Is, not in alignment with Arians view. He has stated on multiple occasions that the playoffs is the most important part of the process. Getting into the playoffs is arians key goal. Get into the playoffs and it’s another season and the regular season doesn’t matter. That’s what Arians has said and it is on a different plane of thought than what you’ve suggested.
Put these together, and it’s much more likely the bucs sign Brady than where you started.
March 14th, 2020 at 5:59 pm
Did the guy who won the National championship in college football won the hiesman trophy, led the nfl in passing yards this year. Only one of 7 Qbs to ever pass for over 5k in a season. Sent both his WRs to the probowl this year. That guy? Does he make players around him better? OF COURSE HE DOES.
March 14th, 2020 at 6:19 pm
I look at it more as how far are they from making the playoffs. With the offensive production this team can beat anyone once they make the playoffs. Last year the defense just wasn’t good enough to win consistently until week 8 or 9. I think they turned the corner around Seattle. After that they went on a winning streak until the injuries on offense key players, Qb and top two WRs. The Bucs need to resign Jameis and get a great Rb to go with ROJO. They also need to strong run blocking RT. Maybe sure up the Safety position if Edwards or Evans can’t step up. So I’d say they’re 2 or maybe 3 players away. If they don’t resign Jameis next year will just be another learning year again for the Qb. I wouldn’t expect much even out of a veteran in year one. Maybe 8 wins.
March 14th, 2020 at 9:40 pm
Stan
I certainly concede some here believe JW “made” ME and Godwin…others think the absolute reverse is true and the acrobatic physical efforts made to catch inaccurate tosses were actually what made JW! Some perhaps think that it was a team and they made each other.
So Stan I’m curious…which do YOU think came first…the chicken or the egg?
March 14th, 2020 at 10:39 pm
Stan,
You said it perfectly, how far away is the team from the playoffs. That’s Arians view and it’s how He operated in Arizona. 3 players away, maybe.
The last 3 games , I believe has been forgotten. Fans are replacing what actually happened on the field with basically a formula for excusing winston. Not all, but enough to shift the landscape into a series of what if scenarios.
Which , imo, it’s lost on most that winston in the last 3 games threw for over 1000 yds. That’s facts, and they are contrary to the winston was hurt and had no recievers and that’s why winston deserves another year. Sorry but 3 games and 1000 yds is a flat out rebuke of this fictional narrative.
Mike Evans is a 1st round draft pick. Godwin a 3rd and Perriman another 1st.
None of them were Seminoles. They were picked high because they have talent and expectations for 1st Rd picks is pro bowls. 3rd solid starter.
Freddie martino and the other guys who were with the team early in Winston’s career are now are vipers . Winston didn’t turn them into pro bowlers because they never had that potential. Strange is winston can elevated his receivers to the pro bowl yet not himself. How
March 15th, 2020 at 12:52 am
I certainly don’t believe Jameis made Evan and Godwin. I just believe he gets more out of the WRs and TEs than other Qbs. Or he makes the players around him better. Just ask Adam Humphries, Kelvin Benjamin or Breshad Perriman. Or go look up Mike Evans stats pre Jameis and post Jameis.
March 15th, 2020 at 2:28 am
So…… I’m not exactly impressed. Maybe someone can shine some light on the small 4-3 sample I just watched? I really don’t have Tim to watch anything except the Bucs and all I saw was a 4-3 guy tear it up on about 10 plays.