Franchise Tag Delayed (Again)
March 10th, 2020
Today should have been the first day NFL teams were allowed to slap a player with a franchise or transition tag.
That is no longer the case. The NFL has pushed back the franchise tag to Monday, per Adam Schefter of BSPN.
The Bucs were rumored to be hitting sack king Shaq Barrett with the franchise tag. Then there was always the possibility that Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, could get hit with the transition tag.
The transition tag was based on a quirk in the CBA; in the last year of the current deal (which is 2020) teams were allowed to use both tags if no new labor agreement was ratified before the new league year that starts with free agency. Previously, teams could not use both in the same season.
However, the NFL pushed this tag day back due in part to the current vote and haggling with the NFLPA on a new CBA. A new CBA could wipe out the ability of teams to use two tags this offseason.
Monday is going to be a busy day. Not only is it the new Tag Day, it is also the first day of legal tampering as March 18, a week from tomorrow, the NFL free agency dinner bell rings at 4 p.m..
March 10th, 2020 at 9:47 am
My hope is that we get a deal done for Sack and use the transition tag on JW to keep him in Tampa for at least one more yr.
March 10th, 2020 at 9:56 am
please sign this man. we need guys who want to be here and are relentless and have awareness and skills.
he fits all 3, don’t insult the man that has extended an olive branch.
March 10th, 2020 at 9:58 am
Why would a fan want Winston back if you want the bucs to be in the playoff’s. Do you honestly believe he could put the team on his back and stop making dumb plays after 5 years?
March 10th, 2020 at 10:06 am
next week is going to be wild. Joe – rest up this weekend, you will be busy next week!
March 10th, 2020 at 10:09 am
They will get the deal done with shaq. It’s an easy one so if licht screws this up just turn in your key card and be a goat herder
March 10th, 2020 at 10:09 am
I would love to see a three year contract for him. 15 mill a year, with incentives and a third year team option.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:13 am
ben Says
Why would a fan want Winston back if you want the bucs to be in the playoff’s. Do you honestly believe he could put the team on his back and stop making dumb plays after 5 years?
The truth is that his first 3 years were not that bad. Did we win? No, but that is on the whole team, which is why individual stats don’t show wins vs losses.
2018 was bad because of the suspension and a head coach who was desperate and indecisive. For example, James spent weeks preparing for the forth game, only for Koetter to decide not to play him. All season long, public opinion was against Winston and Koetter bowed to it time after time. The right thing would have been to start Jameis in game 4 and stick with him, even with his two horrible games.
2019 was all about Winston improving in as many weak areas as possible, and he did in all but one: turnovers.
• He threw for more yards than ever
• He scored more points than ever
• He led the league in Red Zone production
• His deep passing game took a huge leap forward
So now, he only has two blaring weakesses: his eyes and his turnovers.
Given that he improved in so many areas, it is not a stretch to think he can continue to do so.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:22 am
@ joe, Can’t they can tag them now, the deadline has just been pushed back to Monday the 16th. Meaning after 4 pm on Monday you can now longer use either tag.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:25 am
Ya gotta give em something. They have kept our attention with their soap opera.
“As the Quarterback Turns”.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:31 am
I hope they get the CBA done. I would hate for there to be any work stoppage.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:34 am
Bonsai- when you reach back to his his first 3 years you invite all the other things too. One of the things I will never forget (forgive sure) is him blatantly lying to his Temmates, Coaches, Owners and Fan Base about his off field issue.
That is simple for me, character and integrity come first. He showed his, and it was poor. He’d already been in an awful situation in college, of all people he should’ve known better to come clean immediately. He didn’t, he chose to lie.
Which would have been an immediate removal from any team I lead. I’d forgive him, and hope for all the best, he’d just have to do it somewhere other than on mu team.
In BA I Trust!
March 10th, 2020 at 10:44 am
Logic dictates that there won’t be a CBA done by Monday. So my question is, if no new CBA will teams be allowed to use both tags? If so, then the likely move will be the Bucs franchise Barrett and transition Jameis. Doing so allows the Bucs to see what the market for Jameis really is without much risk. If another team makes a reasonable offer then the Bucs can match it. Otherwise, they just let him go.
True, they receive no compensation if he leaves, but that is an acceptable risk, I think. If he receives no great offers, then we keep him for a year and he has a chance to prove he can cut down on his picks in year two of running the offense. In the meantime, the Bucs can draft an elite back early, and a younger QB in the later rounds, or just roll the dice. At least they won’t be forced to overpay the guy. And if he implodes, so be it.
But, bringing in a new QB, unless it’s Burrow, is dicey as hell, even if it’s the GOAT. Too many uncertainties. History shows the likelihood of a new 30+ YO guy coming in and lighting it up is very low. Meanwhile, we wasted another year of Mike Evan’s career.
March 10th, 2020 at 10:49 am
Bucs are weighing all their options. I think they sign Shaq and franchise Jameis for one more year. We shall see.
March 10th, 2020 at 11:08 am
Bonzai,
Jameis glaring weakness is behind his eyes and leads to turnovers… his brain. He takes too long to process, compensates predictably and has way too many brain farts (technical term) than an elite player can experience and stay relevant. He’s on the Freeman highway to… Vegas?
March 10th, 2020 at 11:09 am
Sport:: you would get rid of a 22 or 23 year old for telling a lie? That says everything I need to know!!
March 10th, 2020 at 11:21 am
Yes JP09…you nailed it. Just the deadline to use the tag (s) was pushed back.
March 10th, 2020 at 11:23 am
@Joe disregard, i misread. it makes zero sense to use the tag prior to the cba announcement and they still have time to negotiate contracts prior to using the tag. As you stated Monday should be exciting!!
March 10th, 2020 at 11:51 am
@LetsGoBucs, it still wouldn’t make sense to use the tags yet without knowing the outcome of the new CBA. In Shaq’s case they could be close to a deal, if that’s the case then they’ll wait as long as possible before tagging him. Anyhow it’ll be exciting next week, we’ll get a lot of answers during the tampering period
March 10th, 2020 at 11:57 am
Big Hog – I’m interested in your perspective, when a coach asks you if you studied the playbook over the weekend, and you didn’t, do you say yes?
If your coach asks you if you allegedly sexually assaulted a young women, do you start making things up? And tell lie after lie?
2 totally different lies, one you can work with.
The other lie(s)is a massive character flaw that negates the privilege of playing in the NFL for millions of dollars in front of millions of fans. For which he was suspended and if he shows another lack of judgement and poor character the privilege could be permanently removed.
And to be clear, I would still offer him help, regardless if he was on my team or not.
He would still be a welcome member of Team Humanity, it is not a privilege, it is a right.
In BA I Trust!
March 10th, 2020 at 11:58 am
@big hog
It was a lie and cover up for something that was similar of another situation that he should have learned from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact, he should have been fired from it and the gm that lead the so called most extensive back ground check ever preformed in Buccaneer history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:02 pm
BigHog Says:
March 10th, 2020 at 11:09 am
Sport:: you would get rid of a 22 or 23 year old for telling a lie? That says everything I need to know!!
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It’s not like he was lying about a grade he got in school or telling someone he liked their new hair style when he didn’t. He was lying about something that led him to be suspended. It also led him to have to pay to silence a second woman. I’m with Sport on that.
I’d rather have an honest player than a liar. If you have to guess when someone is telling the truth, they shouldn’t be in such an important role on the team, let alone on the team at all. Not only that, it makes you question what else they have lied about in their past that they just have not been caught on yet.
March 10th, 2020 at 12:11 pm
Well tell me why do so many want Tom Brady? I’ll wait!!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:12 pm
Just sign him to a 3 year 50 mil contract and with 30 mil guaranteed.
March 10th, 2020 at 12:15 pm
It’s a sign ….. don’t offer a contract To one year wonder that has a lot sprung. Trade him.
Draft aj epenesa and chaisson. Bring back suh and nassib.
March 10th, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Word on the street, is that ole Bruce Arians, is looking for the white, errrrrr I mean right Quarterback, to work with!!!!!!! Like the “right” ones that he worked with before!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
Still waiting!!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:35 pm
@JP…
My comment to your first comment above, and the first paragraph of this article, was just that. Just clearing up that the “deadline” was the only thing that changed TODAY.
Discussing if it makes “sense” or not to apply any tag to any played before the new CBA is voted on, is a whole separate discussion, and not one I commented on, or the FIRST paragraph of this article talked about either..
March 10th, 2020 at 12:38 pm
Big Hog – I don’t want Brady, but I understand the allure of having the most accomplished winning QB in the history of the game. It would create a buzz and sell a bunch of tickets.
I’m on record on wanting Carr at this point. His situational football numbers are solid, his salary cap hit is an outright bargain. If JW is $30M and Carr is $17M, I’d take Carr and spend the extra dough on:
– Keeping this Defense together
– A RT
– A Safety
– A RB
Pretty straight forward.
In BA I Trust!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Bonzai – the problem is if you bring Winston back you potentially set the franchise back another 5 years. It would take at least another 2 to fully make the transition to the post-Jameis Era even if they realize after another season it was a mistake to keep him.
The time to MOVE ON from Jameis Winston is NOW.
Leading the league EVERY YEAR (not just in the first year of BA’s Offense) is a proven track record of liability.
Bucs need to admit the Jameis Experiment failed (after after many warning signs of his heavy turnovers at FSU) and the Bucs need to move the team forward without him.
Time to move on.
March 10th, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Its just stupid to use a tag on him. He came here for less money so that he could start and shine!!! And he’s already said he wants to stay here!! What more is there to freaking prove? Jeeze, we finally have a pass rushing sack master….GET A DEAL DONE! My gosh man…..
March 10th, 2020 at 12:42 pm
Big Hog – If that’s a loaded ‘race gun’ you have cocked and loaded, you can holster it, I could care less about skin color, I care about Character and Integrity.
In BA I Trust!
March 10th, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Buco Realisto,
I hope the Bucs sign Bridgewater so it ends any “it’s because of race” stuff with people want Winston gone.
People want Winston gone because he sucks. Just like Mark Sanchez. Just like Johnny Football.
March 10th, 2020 at 12:44 pm
I’m with you Max!
In BA I Trust!
March 10th, 2020 at 1:08 pm
Realist … “Word on the street, is that ole Bruce Arians, is looking for the white, errrrrr I mean right Quarterback, to work with!!!!!!! Like the “right” ones that he worked with before!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Really Realist? Really? If that’s what you think of Arians, kindly explain why his top coaches … Assistant HC, OC & DC … are black. Yours is a demeaning argument and don’t push it onto ‘Word on the street’ as your excuse.
March 10th, 2020 at 1:15 pm
At big hog. You may be dumber than Tmax and a dog. And that is quite a mouthful
March 10th, 2020 at 1:28 pm
Ivan the Insider … “The problem is if you bring Winston back you potentially set the franchise back another 5 years. The time to MOVE ON from Jameis Winston is NOW.”
Just suppose that they do bring Jameis back, say on a transition tag, and he lights it up this year. Bucs get a running game, Jameis throws less, INTs get cut in half, we still score a bunch of points, defense steps up and yeah, the Bucs make the playoffs. My question: What do you do when 2021 rolls around?
THAT’S where the REAL dilemma would play out. We’d have a playoff-caliber TEAM going into 2021 with a viable franchise QB. Do you re-sign him to a long-term contract at that point? Do you franchise tag him again for 1-year at $30 mil plus? Do you let him walk and sign the best QB that you can afford at that point?
As part of that dilemma, do you really think we could afford all the big names like ME13, our expensive OLine AND Dline, etc, etc AND be able to re-sign Winston, Godwin, LVD, OJ & several others in 2021? Jameis would be looking for about $35 mil (or more) probably, Godwin probably $20 mil, LVD $10 mil and OJ say $7 mil at least.
My answer? Not a snowball’s chance in he11 that we could even come close to pulling that off. Those are all questions that must keep BA & JL up late at night right now, because management can’t JUST look at 2020, they have to look well beyond that in their decision-making processes. Must be fun.
March 10th, 2020 at 3:23 pm
Bonzai, those are not “glaring weaknesses.”
They are team and coach killers.
March 10th, 2020 at 3:50 pm
Sport:: character and integrity at 23 years old !!! Oh yea and the question was not loaded…anonymous…choke on it!
March 10th, 2020 at 6:42 pm
When you are “ the face of the franchise”, have been “the man” in college and 23 years old, yeah, JW3 should have known better than to lie. We come on this site to post our views on the TEAM— black, white, brown doesn’t matter. We will disagree on performance but those who bring race and inflammatory personal comments about a single player have no place, IMO. Been a season ticket holder since day one and even though I no longer live in the Tampa Bay Area, still have my tickets. I love my team and my “City” and will continue to support the TEAM. Those who pose those veiled insults are either looking for a reaction or just plain ignorant. Those of you who want to make excuses for a 23 year old MAN lying just don’t get it.
March 10th, 2020 at 7:04 pm
@ Big Hog. I was ‘anonymous’ on accident because I was on my phone.
Choke on some Nuts you racist
March 10th, 2020 at 7:08 pm
AND not only are you a Racist but you are also ‘as I said’ stupid.
Do you know how many players have ‘character and integrity’ at 23???
Did you even get a HS diploma?
March 10th, 2020 at 10:07 pm
Anonymous:cough and then comes gasping, when that happens It’s called choking and your still choking!!!
March 10th, 2020 at 10:30 pm
For all you high class, high minded TRUMPERS …It’s called choking and (you’re) still chocking!!! My bad…I wouldn’t want to throw you guys off!!
March 11th, 2020 at 10:34 am
Big Hog – got it. You haven’t developed beyond ‘I’m rubber you’re glue’
You are free to have your say on here, which I fully support, however I will be ignoring your comments from now on. Rock on Brother…
In BA I Trust!