Final Two Games Doomed Jameis
March 27th, 2020
Add a new title to Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians’ resume.
“Job placement coordinator.”
That’s sort of the extra duties Arians added to his responsibilities, seemingly heartfelt, to help Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, find another job.
Earlier this week while appearing on “The Rich Eisen Show,” Eisen had to ask him about Jameis — how could he not? There, Arians admitted he called two teams to try to find Jameis work. Both came up cold.
However, Arians made it very clear the Bucs were going to keep Jameis — until he torpedoed his Bucs days with the final two games of the season in which he was horrendous.
“I called a couple of teams,” Arians said. He told the teams, “You are going to get one of the hardest workers you have ever had. And a great young man. It didn’t work out for us only because Tom Brady was available or Teddy Bridgewater if that would have worked out.
“We were going to go full-steam ahead back with Jameis. He’s a great young man. Nobody is going to outwork him.”
But Arians said the deep regression — after making a lot of headway late in the season — sealed Jameis’ fate with Arians.
You can see and hear the clip below.
Despite moving on from @Jaboowins for TB12, @Buccaneers head coach @BruceArians told @richeisen what he’s doing for his former QB to assure Jameis Winston has a job in 2020: pic.twitter.com/84xMrLB4nZ
— Rich Eisen Show (@RichEisenShow) March 24, 2020
March 27th, 2020 at 5:17 am
That final pick 6 that also was his 30th int. Was the final straw. Its that nobody would wamt to be in the 30 30 club nobody. Not only was he incapable of not making a mistake he loses games. I was thinking it might work out but after that pick 6 something just seemed off. He had to have been trying his absolute hatdest to avoid the 30 30 embarrassment and he just cant stop messing up. Dont let the door knob hit ya where the good lord split ya.
March 27th, 2020 at 5:42 am
That prize should have never been an staring nfl qb.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:03 am
Pick 6 to begin and end his bucs career
Im sure he will land somewhere else just like cam newton (as both have no teams calling right now)
They are saying both may start as back ups and have to earn back starting roles which is crazy
New england still needs a QB. I saw some crazy article that Pats tank for trevor lawrence. I cannot see Bellicheat doing that although he is no boy scout
March 27th, 2020 at 6:05 am
It’s nice that Arians is going to bat for him. It shows his respect for Jameis.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:06 am
“Word on the street”, is that ole stale biscuit really called three teams, the Falcons, the Saints, and the Panthers!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 27th, 2020 at 6:07 am
This 30-30 “Club” is crap in the sense that half of it is actually good, but it’s viewed as a total s*it combo. You have to throw 30 TDs as well. Would he have been better off with only 29 TDs so people couldn’t reference the cutesy 30-30 thing? Seriously.
Jameis tried as hard as anyone to get this team to some level of respectability. Too bad players aren’t judged more in this manner when things don’t work out.
Joes, I agree with your comments from Ira’s podcast. It was a failure on many levels within the organization, not just on Jameis.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:14 am
After 5 yrs he still cant execute a check down….that’s the core problem that leads to the majority of his turnovers. He will not get rid of the ball in an efficient manner.
To then say, it was Brady….then Bridgewater….then Winston is basically saying if whiffed on all our swings, then yeah we were stuck with Winston. He knew the system and was better then the remaining options which would have been no options at that point.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:18 am
What happened with JPP? That’s our money player!!!
March 27th, 2020 at 6:33 am
I saw somewhere that the second Carolina game had the Bucs looking elsewhere, he had so many brilliant plays, followed by plays that made you scratch your head.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:43 am
El buco realisto
Thats actually a pretty good burn
March 27th, 2020 at 6:44 am
I would be just fine with Jameis as a backup unless he thinks he ballin better than a backup.
March 27th, 2020 at 6:46 am
who???
March 27th, 2020 at 7:14 am
Those last two games plus the Gay miss vs Giants would have given us 10 wins…..and that is not a stretch…..
Jameis definitely blew it…….he simply couldn’t sustain consistent play…
He will make a fantastic backup.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:23 am
“Deep regression?”
But wait, I thought he was “ballin.”
Did Bruce even bother to (cough) check his sheet?
March 27th, 2020 at 7:36 am
I like how everybody blames Matt Gay for the Giants loss . Guess who scored the only three points in the entire 2nd half ?
March 27th, 2020 at 7:39 am
I remember a gimme INT to a LB in the Giants game too.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:52 am
Unfortunately, he seen it for what it was that so many fans already knew.
Get rid of Jameis before he gets rid of you.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:54 am
I saw somewhere the Bucs started scouting qbs after the London game, Winston had many moments of brilliance, followed by moments that made you scratch your head.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:55 am
Rightfully so. The 2017 and 2018 should have doomed him
Time to move on from Jameis both for Clueless Joe and the Jameis fan club.
2 XFL QBs have jobs. They didn’t get calls supporting them. They let their play speak for themselves.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:58 am
Arains is a flat out lier and full of sh!t to boot.
So we are supposed to sit here and truly believe that he based the future of our franchise on the play of a QB with a torn meniscus, broken thumb, playing with one NFL caliber WR a kicker that flat could not make a kick in one of those two games. So that is why we let a 26 year old go that just threw for 5,000 yards and led the number 3 scoring offense in the NFL go? Cause of two games under those circumstances? If you want to move on fine, but don’t treat us like we are a bunch of idiots. Bottom line is he wanted to not coach anymore and wants a Superbowl to pad his legacy so just say that and respect us, as knew with Tom he can just sit in his golf cart and let Tom coach the team. Maybe Tom is stupid enough to try to call back to back time outs with the game on the line or get a penalty to make the game winning kick for a rookie”easier”. See the problem is he knows he is playing for 100% for now/himself and this thing is going to be a dumpster fire after him and Tom leave so it is much easier to just blame Jameis.
Just be honest, but no he is a pathological lier.
Always remember the below:
The secondary is fixed. (Before going onto provide the worst passing defense in the history of the NFL in the first 9 weeks)
I love our running backs. (Then going into not having a 100 yard rusher till week 17)
I took the penalty on purpose to make the kick easier. (To lose a game that your “horrible” QB should have pulled out for you, but and your kicker blew it)
Took back to back time outs to almost give a game away. (Got lucky that I guy you ended up cutting bailed you out)
Now this complete and utter nonsense.
He is a lier plain and simple.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:59 am
I would always cringe and feel my anxiety rising in the 4th quarter, while watching Winston drop back to pass.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:02 am
Yeah that Giants pick I thought was on Jameis as well but when you look at it from the endzone he clearly through Evans was going to sit down in the zone (which he should have CAUSED IT WAS ZONE) and Evans kept going so it looked bad but really they just read it differently mainly Evans read it wrong.
Again rip me if you want but go watch it from the endzone there is a corner in the flat were Evans is running so he should have stopped and didn’t so the pass looks behind him but it wouldn’t have been if he had stopped.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:06 am
We still have 24mil in cap space. How about Reshad Jones at S, he could help the young guys in the secondary. He is a very good S maybe if he could be had for around 10mil we would then have 14 mil for draft picks and FA.
If we draft that Ruiz RG/ C from Michigan in 2nd we can move him to C next year and dump Jensen & his 10mil contract.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:10 am
Those 24 INT’s before the last 2 games didn’t help either.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:29 am
Did Jameis play hurt before the last two games? I thought he was banged up for a while, and the four games before the last two were solid.
His game against Seattle, IMHO, was his best last year. However, his consistency falls right off a cliff.
I understand that some of the mistakes/turnovers are responsible of others around him, but the fact remains that he leads the league by a wide margin in turnovers this year, and since he’s been in the league. That must be corrected, and I believe is the biggest reason he remains unsigned.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:34 am
Waterboy Says:
March 27th, 2020 at 8:10 am
Those 24 INT’s before the last 2 games didn’t help either.
LOL!
March 27th, 2020 at 8:34 am
’79 Defense says”
“Would he have been better off with only 29 TDs so people couldn’t reference the cutesy 30-30 thing? Seriously.”
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That is so true, lol.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:39 am
Noles
I think it was 23-24 mil before last 2 signings
Safety adams around 1 mil
Suh 8 mil
So lets just say 24 -9 = 15 on upside
Based on bucs current draft locations it will cost around 7-8 mil(7.3) to sign draftees
Not sure what brate deal helped but that means around 7-8 mil left in cap space so they really cant sign to many ..if any free agents unless they give someone the hook
March 27th, 2020 at 8:44 am
A trade for julian edelman would be close as his contract is right around 7 mil
How nasty would that lineup be …if they put him in slot …he can also play outside.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:52 am
No team wants Mr. Unemployed, America’s Turnover Machine, Backup Jay-Miss Winston.
The team already started making contingency plans with the London game. Jay-Miss had plenty of chances to improve his decision making over the past five years and he didn’t.
At best, he reached his ceiling as a player. No shame in that At worst, his ceiling is much higher but turnovers simply do not matter to him and that message to protect the football never resonated. Either way, he is a B-U-S-T. Good riddance to him.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:53 am
NDOG,
Winston’s injuries were MINOR. If they truly were a serious issue then Jameis really should have been let go…
What idiot starting QB in the NFL, when his team is already out of the playoff chase and has nothing to gain, starts truly injured to risk major damage to their health and the future of the team?
WINSTON IS A STAT-PADDER, plain and simple.
Winston insisted on playing those games to run up his stats on the season. It’s the same reason when the Bucs are down by multiple scores late in games, Winston would never insist on letting Griffin get some valuable reps.
I have ZERO SYMPATHY for Winston if he really was playing hurt. That was nothing more than a stat-padding, money-grab effort on his part. He should be ASHAMED of himself not rewarded as if he’s some tough guy ironman athlete for sacrificing his health.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:04 am
God these people what did Winston ever do to earn this level of outright shilling Jesus.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:06 am
This feels more about soothing any hard feelings of remaining Bucs players (like Evans) who truly like our prior QB and want to see him land on his feet… more than actually trying to help him land a job. Not much can be said by a renowned QB whisperer to help a QB to whom he’s only willing to whisper if Brady and Bridgewater were gone. Bruce appears to be using the media to communicate with his team.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:13 am
Ndog Says:
“Arains is a flat out lier”
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A lier is someone who rests or reclines.
Sure, I could see him doing that during his down time.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:37 am
Hopefully, this new title will bump his self-appointed Quarterback Whisperer title off of the resume. How does he get a free pass after his failure with Winston?
March 27th, 2020 at 9:40 am
Can we all agree that we want JW to sign with someone. Hopefully an NFC team not named Buccaneers! I want the compensatory pick next year that comes with that news.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:42 am
Ndog you are not in Winston’s’ head. So you don’t know what he thought. Nor any other players. Quit trying to act like you know everything that went on with every play in a players head. You don’t.
March 27th, 2020 at 9:45 am
now before JW threw up all over himself i posted this:
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813bucboi Says:
December 12th, 2019 at 10:00 am
no doubt he wants to play….
but is it in the teams best long term interest….
sit him….ME13 is out of the season, d.smith banged up….
develop the young talent on the team now…
dont wait until PS because that tells us close to nothing….lol…
i say sign him to a 2year deal with a 3rd year option….re-sign the pending FAs like shaq, jpp and suh….
consistency and health is key…..
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and folks laughed at me saying: play him….lol….
seems i was right all along!!!!!…lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 27th, 2020 at 9:46 am
Ndog Says:
December 14th, 2019 at 8:11 am
BTW when people say Jameis will never be elite let’s be clear here. If he continues to be a starting QB in the NFL, which should be a no brainier, he is on pace to have HOF#s. I know people are going to laugh and make some snarky comments but that is a fact.
EVERYONE IS LAUGHING AT YOU, LIL PUP!!!!!!….LMAO..
GO BUCS!!!!!
March 27th, 2020 at 9:49 am
Winston never should have been drafted here. He had a ton of red flags coming out of FSU and they ALL followed him to the Bucs.
Even though any Bucs fan that has been paying attention has known for a long time that Winston wasn’t the answer here, I think that reality hit Arians in London when Winston had 6, SIX turnovers.
I’ve said all along that Winston would become a journeyman backup. Sometimes I hate it when I’m absolutely correct.
March 27th, 2020 at 10:17 am
Day 1
“Hopefully, this new title will bump his self-appointed Quarterback Whisperer title off of the resume. How does he get a free pass after his failure with Winston?”
You can’t fix stupid.
March 27th, 2020 at 10:19 am
npuppy, still melting. lol
March 27th, 2020 at 10:25 am
LOL @ THE IRONY OF NDOG
And the fact that he cannot spell the word “LIAR” which he incorrectly misspelled twice, proving he doesn’t know how to spell the word.
PATHETIC.
March 27th, 2020 at 11:03 am
Who cares? Moving on.
March 27th, 2020 at 11:10 am
In typical Jameis fashion he bids farewell to Tampa and says he’ll be back to play in the SB in February. False bravado will plague him until he changes. Quite the contrary, Tom Brady says he always felt well done was better than well spoken. We ditched the QB who looks at the prize for the QB who focuses on the process.
March 27th, 2020 at 11:17 am
Those last two games were really painful to watch, losing to two worse teams, I know Texans were headed to the playoffs but they looked bad, knew they didn’t stand a chance in the post season. Best for the team, Winston and the fans to move on
March 27th, 2020 at 11:29 am
Reflecting back over the season I still see where the beginning of the end for the former Bucs QB was in London… In an interview soon after a reporter asked Arians if we was greatly concerned by that performence by Arians replies saying something like, every QB has a bad game but if he has another one, Yes! I will be highly concerned!
March 27th, 2020 at 11:47 am
I think for Arians, after the Colts game when we were officially eliminated from playoff contention, saw this as an opportunity for Winston to showcase himself and the team to give all the fans and the team a warm and fuzzy heading into next season. Instead Jameis went dumb assin’ around and prevented his team from winning which, i’m sure, raised the questions in Arians’ mind “What if this was the playoffs?” “If he(Jameis) cant not choke in two meaningless games with no pressure to win, how can he be trusted in a REAL playoff game?”
March 27th, 2020 at 12:03 pm
Wow, BA is seriously full of it! Look at what this man is saying and been saying. So he is willing to adjust the plays for Brady but didn’t do that for Winston despite majority of us saying that in the forums. We been telling him the running game and secondary needed to be fixed and he didn’t do anything but threw Winston under the bus. Jeez man, the Glaziers must really like losing, these guys have to be the WORST owners of all of sports globally
March 27th, 2020 at 12:41 pm
So he is willing to adjust the plays for Brady but didn’t do that for Winston despite majority of us saying that in the forums.
Bruce Arians doesn’t read Bucs “forums” and nor should he.
March 27th, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Better check yo sheet… Aimless is a starter
March 27th, 2020 at 1:54 pm
Kansas
BA worked with what he had to work with when he got here. Was he supposed to say our running backs suck and our secondary is the worst ever. He was just biding his time.
He never pulled JW. Let him keep slinging. JW threw himself under the bus.
March 27th, 2020 at 1:55 pm
I’ll bet he forgot to fax over Jameis’s sheet to those other 2 teams. I bet that’s why they weren’t interested. They couldn’t check the sheet.
March 27th, 2020 at 1:58 pm
And the end of Jameis Watch.
March 27th, 2020 at 2:02 pm
The flag at half mast photo that accompanies this segment is a little over the top isn’t it ? Bring on Tom Watch !!!
March 27th, 2020 at 3:09 pm
I’d say BA had a nice hand in torpedoing JW3 market value in his off-season comments…Which may have initially been a negotiating tool, but looked vindictive in nature – after JW3’s agency leaked the $30M asking price/not happy playing on tag $$ comments to media members.
Seems all the “I tried to find him a job” seems a little contrite now..Showing his guilt, now that JW3 is left w/o a job anywhere.
March 27th, 2020 at 3:21 pm
Just askin’ Are the #3 Buc jerseys made out of teflon?
March 27th, 2020 at 3:49 pm
@Jmarkbuc
BA has gone on record to say that he was cool with our RB’s and DB’s even though those positions have been in need. And you made my point, Arians told Winston to keep firing and never made any adjustments to combat the TO, which Palmer also had high INT’s in his first year in that system too. BA suck, Licht suck and the Glaziers suck!
#SellTheTeam
March 27th, 2020 at 5:02 pm
The team made the right decision. Go Bucs! Go Brady! Good luck Jameis!
March 27th, 2020 at 7:30 pm
He could have gotten away with one of those last 2 games going poorly… but not both.
Simple as that.
March 27th, 2020 at 7:40 pm
So let me get this straight…
The kicker loses the Atlanta game.
Brate drops the easiest 4th and 2 pass in NFL history with 3 mins left deep in Houston terrority.
Winston is playing without his two pro-bowl WRs, and while Perriman played great, once teams realized in the second half of games they could just double team him they could remove him from the game. In Arians offense the TE isn’t use, and then they are they are dropping huge passes (Brate, then OJ on the series before on a deep ball can’t catch it). After Perriman on the depth chart is complete garbage that shouldn’t be in the NFL. Watson literally tripped on his own two feet on what should have been an easy TD and also caused another INT on a different pass. After that who was even on the team, anyone know?
Winston started off the Houston game poorly, then brought the team all the way back by halftime. He was taking them on a game winning drive when Brate dropped the huge pass on 4th down. After that, on the next series, with 2 mins left Winston hits Perriman on a pass when he’s hit in the head and has to be helped off the field. Perriman comes back out as it’s after the 2 min warning, but Winston isn’t looking at him since, you know, he was just carried off the field a minute ago.
In the Atlanta game he played a great first half — then the Falcons just realized all they needed to do was double team Perriman and Winston had nowhere to throw the ball. They only had, what, 6 passes after halftime? The kicker goes 0/3, which is the only reason the game goes to OT, and Winston throws it to Brate who just stands there as a LB jumps the route. Should Brate have come back to the ball? I’m not sure, but I do know he just stood there waiting on the ball. Was it a bad play? Yes. Would it have happened if he had Evans and Godwin on the field? Probably not.
The Winston bashing is a bunch of fake news nonsense put out be triggered morons. If the Bucs didn’t get Brady, then your QB would have Winston. I love Winston, but Brady is the best of all time, you get him if you can get him. But getting Brady doesn’t mean Winston sucks. The guy just lead the NFL in passing, was 3rd in TDs, broke every single team passing record — except for INTs.
March 27th, 2020 at 8:09 pm
Thx for update Bird not much left to spend. Let’s see what they do
March 28th, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Arains has always said he could win with Jameis. But he knows its gonna take a while. And Arians wants a championship right now. Its do or die for him. Don’t worry about Jameis. he’s gonna be fine. and will probably make quite a comeback later on. Remember, People are like flowers..some bloom early, some late, some not at all. I think jameis is a..Late bloomer on down the line.