Why?
February 18th, 2020
Has to ask.
The timing to Joe suggests this is all blown out of proportion.
A sect of people thinks an optical procedure is all that was needed to cure Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, of his knack for throwing pick-sixes.
Joe isn’t convinced until he sees proof on the field. Why? Because Jameis did stuff that no blind person could pull off.
Yes, Jameis had LASIK surgery. And the way some folks are reacting, it’s like a bionic quarterback has been created by young Dr. Frankenstein.
Even a guy Joe respects a helluva lot, Tony Kornheiser of BSPN, seems to think Jameis will transform himself as a result. Otherwise, Kornheiser wouldn’t be questioning the timing of the procedure as he did on a recent broadcast of “Pardon the Interruption.”
“So let me try to understand this,” Kornheiser began. “Jameis Winston has had an eyesight problem that dates back all the way to college. And he corrects it — now. After he throws 30 picks. He corrects it now. I really don’t know why he waited?”
It is a big leap to go from being nearsighted and throwing picks, to having LASIK and not throwing picks. Jameis is nearsighted, which means he struggles to see things at a distance. Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians said he cannot read a scoreboard.
But Jameis can sure as hell find receivers deep. He led the NFC in deep passing this year. And you might have heard Jameis threw for 5,100 yards and 33 touchdowns. Joe doesn’t know of too many folks with a sight-impairment who can pull that off.
Kornheiser later cautioned folks from thinking this will be “the magic bullet” to stop Jameis’ interceptions.
Joe agrees.
Remember: “Nearsighted” means struggling to see things at a distance. So this LASIK is going to help Jameis see linebackers in short distances? Or has Jameis found a magical ophthalmologist who can make linebackers vanish?
February 18th, 2020 at 8:03 am
Logical Joe doesn’t have blinders like delusional Joe does.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:05 am
Easy well stated
February 18th, 2020 at 8:09 am
I am an optometrist. This is being blown out of proportion. I’m sure he’s slightly near sighted (key word slightly), which means he sees everything, but it may have a slight blur to it the farther down the field it is. He certainly can see everything. There is no doubt in my mind that someone in Winston’s position would not be allowed on the field if he didn’t have adequate vision.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:11 am
At this point Jameis is desperate to do anything he can to save not only for a contract but possibly to save his career.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:11 am
What Easy said. And Winston’s last pass (hopefully as a Buc) had NOTHING to do with near-sightedness, but rather just another STUPID play.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:12 am
First question I asked..why did he wait? And all I got from the resident apologists is that he had to be 25, or whatever, which was bogus.
And that question is still unanswered…unless…you think it was all about the money..just as some have speculated his acts of charitable largess have been. Frankly, I don’t know. But do wonder..why wait until now?
February 18th, 2020 at 8:12 am
“I really don’t know why he waited?”
That’s the part that just confounds me as well. It’s not an issue of cost, he has the money. It’s not an issue that it’s unsafe, LASIK is so routine now that less than 1% of people have any adverse effects stemming from it outside of dryness.
There is literally no excuse for him to have waited this long given that his profession all but requires perfect vision to be able to perform at the top level. The simple fact that he did wait (aside from all the other reasons) is more than enough for me to want him gone.
If this surgery will supposedly fix all his problems (it won’t), then he should be let go for willingly ignoring it for the last 5 years.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:14 am
Year..would you consider “having trouble seeing the scoreboard” a slight blurriness of vision? Not to be mean, but I think my Ophthalmologist would disagree with you,
February 18th, 2020 at 8:18 am
On the other hand, year, you might be a 100% correct in Jameis case… and it really isn’t that bad. And possibly the timing is a ploy to mitigate the impact of the 30 ints, and partially answer the question Bruce has been asking…”what in the H was he looking at”?
February 18th, 2020 at 8:24 am
Poor vision could cause a slight delay in visual processing. Regardless, he makes a mistake, loses confidence. This causes more delay. The delay caused him to force throws and then, interceptions. Then, less confidence, more delay, so on.
No, I doubt lasik would matter. It might matter to him though. Jameis is a mental basket case. We all are really.
1. Religion. It’s all in God’s hands.
2. Every interview there are many reverse mouth shrugs indicating a lack of confidence in what you are saying.
3. His work ethic. Overwork can indicate a lack of confidence.
Wtf knows? Bottom line, is there a better choice? Maybe. If Araians thinks so, then that’s it for Jameis.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:28 am
“Just as some have speculated.” Lmao!!
Are these, mostly, children here, Joe?
Stop trying to use some 21 year old keyboard warriors opinion as “some have speculated.” It’s NAUSEATING and a sad deflection from your, OBVIOUS, biased opinion. I haven’t heard a SINGLE argument that makes sense for the Bucs moving on from Jameis. Quite the opposite. He should RUN from Tampa like Burrow from Cincy. Lol!!!!
February 18th, 2020 at 8:28 am
Jameis did this for a contract
Plain and simple
If this was an issue and wasn’t fixed prior to this than the team doctors are as dumb as Jameis’s play on the field
February 18th, 2020 at 8:29 am
Visual Acuity is Essential for Optimal Visual Performance of NFL Players
https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2137797
https://health.usnews.com/health-care/for-better/articles/2018-05-29/the-link-between-good-eyesight-and-sports-performance
February 18th, 2020 at 8:35 am
I’m nearsighted. It’s quite possible that mike Evans has been overcorrecting to inflate his numbers, much like he did at A&M. Jameis misses a ton of deep balls too, and it’s also possible he has poor peripheral vision and misses underneath linebackers which he has a habit of doing
February 18th, 2020 at 8:36 am
You can fix your vision…but you can’t fix stupid.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:37 am
Chalk it up to another decision we question from our no 1 overall pick. Hope it helps. I wish him all the best.
Ready for some deadlines to arrive so we can start cheering (or screaming) about some real news.
In BA I Trust!
February 18th, 2020 at 8:46 am
Thisisyouryear!!
And contacts have helped my nearsightedness for almost 30 years
Still helps me with playing sports
Pretty sure a lot of pros wear contacts who dont or have not gone lasik route
February 18th, 2020 at 8:47 am
Big deal on yards and TDs. He lost several games all by himself. You either make the playoffs or you are a loser.
And Kornheiser looks like a drunken vagrant. He is living on fumes.
Vision had nothing to do with Jameis’ performance. He just needs to stop taking risks and calm the F down in the pocket. And, yes, he threw some deep balls in 2019, but was awful in years past. Which maybe proves he can learn.
But if he demands north of $20M, he’s tone deaf, too. Let him go. He’ll be this year’s Ice Cream Man.
February 18th, 2020 at 8:53 am
If his vision was so poor he could not pass the eye test to get a driver’s licence. Did anyone ever see him drive off after practice wearing glasses? If his vsion was so poor he should not have been driving let alone throwing ill advised passes to the other team
February 18th, 2020 at 9:00 am
Joe
As a fast moving fuzz ball zoomed in toward us I wasn’t sure exactly where it was. That made it tougher to even defend the pass let alone try to intercept it.
Yes, Joe, nearsightedness muddies the view. Ever try to look through the windshield while driving through a pretty decent rain? You can see things,
but ….
Instead of fuzz ball Linebackers and DBs Jameis will see them sharply. Makes it a whole lot easier to perceive direction and speed.
Then no excuses.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:01 am
Just a PR and publicity stunt at contract time.
Nothing more, nothing less.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:02 am
It would seem that colorblindness would be his main problem…..that’s when all the jerseys look the same color.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:14 am
We all have to remember that we are talking about a guys vision. I would be nervous myself if i faced Lasik. Its his right to decide on his own. It may be a personal matter and choice. I do think his EGO might have been an issue. Maybe in denial about his eyesight. Definitely now a contract issue. I say lets move on from Jameis. These posts make a very compelling argument to release him.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:23 am
Thank you Joe. It’s people grasping at straws. I had terrible vision for 17 years and can honestly say while things weren’t as sharp I had no issues tracking positions of objects and could still tell who was who even down the field.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:28 am
Many of id have our thoughts and opinions so here’s another to think about. What I’ve read about Lasik offs that you have to be 18 and many Doctors recommend not having it until your’e 25. Then why not contacts many people can’t stick their fingers in the eye and there for are scared to try and get contacts. Will this help his decision making? If the Bucs the team we all love decide to keep him I sure as heck hope it does.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:28 am
My research says that the surgeon would ask all patients to wait until they are 25 years old because your sight continually changes until that time…that’s the facts …not hear to argue that point, but what about those who believe it was all about the money? He is nearsighted but could he see far enough into his future to use 5,000 yard passing year as leverage? I say he has no leverage, The BUCS Front Office holds all the balls !!! I’m a BUC Fan first…I want Mr. 5,000 back flawes and all …..nobody but him can bring it
February 18th, 2020 at 9:32 am
” Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston,”…..he is neither…..he is Joes QB
February 18th, 2020 at 9:38 am
I don’t believe this has any merit to it what so ever…
He went through so many practices, off-season, tryouts and done well enough to be drafted and play in the NFL but he did it all half blind…
For one, contacts have been around for decades and so has sports goggles…
Man, by the time JW career comes to an end, it seems that NO other player will have had more excuses made for them to play 1 more season just-to-see-if he can magically become good at the position… Years of losing resulting in people clinging to anything, even if that thing is as responsible for the loses as anything else…
Bucs just continuing the same cycle of poor evaluation!
February 18th, 2020 at 9:48 am
As someone with severe nearsightedness who played with contacts my entire career, and had LASIK at 53 years old, I’d like to know what Winston’s prescription was prior to LASIK, including astigmatism, to make a comment about what he could or could not see.
February 18th, 2020 at 9:56 am
Jameis didn’t just blow his audition year for becoming the $100 million man. He burnt his bridges with those last two games. That final pass against Atlanta is something no one can unsee.
Maybe his optometrist said his eyes were developed enough for Lasik, maybe Jameis was also looking for an excuse. That falls apart because he had refused to wear contacts in games, even though a bunch of other players wear them and the soft contacts were made for such situations.
Jameis has too many other bad habits for one magic bullet to fix him. It could make him worse because of sights he isn’t used to seeing clearly.
Tag him and see what happens next year if you must. I think a new hope is needed to put fans into the seats and Jameis has too much baggage to be a new hope.
February 18th, 2020 at 10:16 am
Tony Kornheiser knows less about football than my 2 year old daughter. That FACT became extremely, painfully, embarrassingly, jaw dropping through the concrete basement floor of a military bunker evident when he was tasked with being the “color commentator” on Monday Night Football back in 2006 to 2008. Taking his advice or opinions on football is worth 1000x less to taking a homeless mans advice on finances. Don’t believe me? Go watch the tapes.
February 18th, 2020 at 10:34 am
Jameis is just blind when it comes to seeing the other teams defenders.
February 18th, 2020 at 10:36 am
the eye surgery BS is a joke!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 18th, 2020 at 10:55 am
AlteredEgo …if America is still talking about him…and they are…then he’s still America’s QB….you must be new here or something.
February 18th, 2020 at 11:02 am
People are considered near sighted when they are seeing 20/25 which is one line off from 20/20. It’s legal to drive if you are 20/40 or better. If I had to guess, Jameis is very slightly near sighted. Yes I’ve seen him squit at the score board too. Not all the numbers are huge that far away.
I can’t imagine the Bucs letting Jameis play with 20/40 vision or worse. It would be idiotic for a franchise that is paying their quarterback 20million dollars. That’s why I am convinced this is a last ditch effort to save his career. From what everyone is saying, if the Bucs don’t franchise him, he’s looking at 10 million per year.
February 18th, 2020 at 11:16 am
If the Boomer knew how to Google he would have found that science says you have to wait until at least 25 to get LASIK, the eyes are still growing until then. Watching BSPN for anything other than a game is a waste of time and a drain on your IQ.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:10 pm
Unless you are nearsighted, I don’t expect you to understand.
Things are blurry at a distance, sometimes extremely blurry. You can see colors and shapes, and maybe even slightly better.
But it takes longer to process what you see too, because you are second guessing what you see…wanting to make sure.
This may or may not improve his accuracy, but it will improve his timing.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:13 pm
Calculated timing, bravo to agent Drew. Those who buy into it are clueless.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:28 pm
P.S. Sign Jameis!
February 18th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
Buccaneer Bonzai
Well said.
February 18th, 2020 at 12:57 pm
Buc1987 Says:
February 18th, 2020 at 10:55 am
AlteredEgo …if America is still talking about him…and they are…then he’s still America’s QB….you must be new here or something.
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I am far from new here….I remember you saying you would be buying 2 season tickets when and if the Bucs drafted Mariota….errr I mean Jameis
February 18th, 2020 at 1:16 pm
Near-sighted or far-sighted, the COLOR of a jersey is the same. LASIK does not cure throwing to the wrong jersey!
February 18th, 2020 at 1:36 pm
Jameis’s vision did not need LASIK to be corrected…he could have played with the same corrected vision with contacts or glasses…..so that begs the question
February 18th, 2020 at 1:50 pm
LOL,
I don’t think LASIK helps with not being able to identify underneath coverage, unfortunately.
February 18th, 2020 at 2:23 pm
It can’t hurt to have accurate sharp vision though. Especially when going through your progressions and picking out your targets. When you can’t see well it takes a wee bit longer to focus on objects at a distance. It doesn’t necessarily affect your depth perception but it can slow down your decision making.
February 18th, 2020 at 2:28 pm
During a Summer Olympics a while back, I watched a man from South Korea who competed in pistol matches despite being legally blind. I know that experienced marksmen never actually focus on the target, so it was easy for me to understand how he can hit a blurry distant object. ‘This colors my opinion on Jameis’ surgery.
Blurry vision doesn’t affect your depth perception, either, as long as both eyes work, so I don’t believe his accuracy will be affected at all. Someone yesterday pointed out that target acquisition could be improved (scanning the field for an open receiver), though. Now that age is getting to my eyesight, I totally agree with this.
My biggest complaint with Winston has always been his habit of staring down receivers, which undoubtedly affects his turnover hassles. I rarely see him scan the field unless he’s scrambling, and we know that “check down” is not a part of his vocabulary. Could this be why?
We know I’m not a Jameis fan, but I always try to be fair. I honestly think that if the eye surgery has any effect on his game, it will be in the area of my biggest consternation. It’s possible that it does help him–just not in the way we were all thinking at first. That said, I wouldn’t be ready to bet 30 million dollars worth of defensive line on my theory.
February 18th, 2020 at 2:39 pm
mark2001 Says:
“First question I asked..why did he wait?”
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To be fair, if he has never had normal vision, then he doesn’t know the difference. In his mind, it’s never been a problem so he doesn’t perceive the possible improvements the surgery can enable.
February 18th, 2020 at 3:35 pm
The idiocy of believing he did this for a contract. He wanted his distance vision corrected via lasik and he’s now old enough that someone would perform the procedure. Did Jameis say the procedure would improve his interception performance or is that noise from all the idiots now being taken as the reason why he did it?
JFC people.
February 18th, 2020 at 5:31 pm
It’s annoying how ignorant so many “experts” are. This simple quotation from the first page of a simple google search they were too lazy to do:
“Most providers encourage young adults to wait until their mid-20s because, until this time, a person’s prescription may be still changing. Having a stable prescription for at least two years is often required as proof before anyone, young or old, is deemed a good LASIK candidate.”
February 18th, 2020 at 5:52 pm
I think he’s color blind or prefers throwing to colors that aren’t red or white. 🤷♂️
February 18th, 2020 at 10:16 pm
Now everyone is an eye doctor. Smh
February 19th, 2020 at 10:32 am
Did Jameis ever wear contact lenses?
February 19th, 2020 at 11:09 am
Think so (not sure about on the field).
Have seen him wear glasses.