Simms: Arians & Andy Dalton Are “Interesting Fit”

February 21st, 2020

Former Buccaneers quarterback and Patriots assistant coach Chris Simms told a telling Lamar Jackson story recently on an NBC Sports show.

Months before the 2018 NFL Draft, Simms touted on national airwaves that Lamar Jackson was a superstar quarterback in waiting. And then Simms said he arrived at the March NFL owners meetings that year and was besieged by NFL executives mocking his assessment of Jackson.

It was so intense, Simms said it actually led him to dial back his support of Jackson a bit and he regrets being intimidated/swayed to this day.

Jackson was drafted No. 31 overall and the rest is history.

The son of a Super Bowl quarterback, Simms knows the position inside and out and has annually does intense film work on all the NFL QBs, so his Twittering this afternoon might make a Bucs fan take pause.

Simms shared that three-time Pro Bowler Andy Dalton is primed for a major bounce back season, especially if he lands with Bucco Bruce Arians.

Simms isn’t high on Jameis Winston, but he is not anti-Jameis, either. Joe’s listened to Simms enough to know he wouldn’t blink if the Bucs waved goodbye to Jameis’ big-time talent in favor of a less expensive veteran.

Dalton with the Bucs at 32 years old might actually drive Joe to take a couple days off and put a gone-fishin’ sign on this website, though Joe would understand a Dalton signing if it was accompanied by the Bucs drafting a quarterback in Round 1 next month.

85 Responses to “Simms: Arians & Andy Dalton Are “Interesting Fit””

  1. Bruce Blahak Says:

    this will work, a good option…

  2. Adrnagy Says:

    Tony romo would be a good fit too.

  3. K2 Says:

    That move would encourage me to maybe check-in around the NFL draft 2021. We had 10 wasted year…what is one more?

  4. Pick6King Says:

    Sign Jameis to a 10 year 500 million dollar contract. Fully guaranteed. No telling how many Superbowl titles we’ll win. Possibly 10 in a row.

  5. Jean Lafitte Says:

    moot point now

  6. ModHairKen Says:

    No. No. No. And Simms is not very bright. Like his Dad.

  7. Allbuccedup Says:

    How about Carson Palmer?

  8. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    ^^ Not sure what you are watching. Chris Simms is one of the best evaluators of QB’s in the business, and his thought very highly of by all of his peers, in this regard.

  9. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    ^^ that was to MHK

  10. Defense Rules Says:

    Dalton to the Bucs is workable, but I’d much rather see us get Carr via a trade. And really don’t understand your fascination with drafting a QB in Rnd 1 Joe. By our #14 pick, the top QBs will almost surely be gone. Plus we NEED a starting RT & most likely we’ll have to get one via the draft (and there are at least 4 very good Tackles in the hopper this year it looks like). Bucs NEED an OLineman, a DLineman & a RB in our Top-3 Rnds.

  11. Tampa Bay Demon Says:

    You would be hard-pressed to find anyone in the business that puts more hours into relentless film work & analysis of every QB that is out there.

  12. Defense Rules Says:

    @Pick6King … “Sign Jameis to a 10 year 500 million dollar contract. Fully guaranteed.” Aahh yes, love sarcasm. The ‘fully guaranteed’ was a nice touch.

  13. Allbuccedup Says:

    Sign Case Keenum for about 6mil then use the other 80 mil to load up on free agency Shaq,Jpp,Suh,Leonard Williams,Adrian Phillips, and an offensive tackle, then trade the farm for Burrow.

  14. Dan Says:

    Dalton is by far a better option that Jay-Miss. I would be thrilled to have him.

  15. catcard202 Says:

    If CIN will take a 4th Rd Comp pick, yeah…He’s a solid bridge for 2020.

    The question is, who else is calling CIN to inquire & will they drive the price up?
    $17.5M is a CHEAP bridge starter for 2020…besides TB…a ton of other clubs may be bidding…There is more unsettled QB1 situations than I’ve ever seen.

  16. SB Says:

    You guys that want Dalton are flippin’ Nuts! We HAVE to have a mobile QB behind our OL. 4 and 12 with Dalton.

  17. Alstott up the gut Says:

    I would also happily take this option. With our weapons, give me a reliable QB, that will be smart leading this team. Where do I sign for this?

  18. SteveK Says:

    Interesting.

    Great year to be a team needing a QB!

    All those options, won’t have to overpay for mediocrity.

  19. Thisisouryear!!! Says:

    I think he is a very good option. Fairly inexpensive. Would not kill us in the draft. And I think if you put him with a coach like Arians and he will play very well.

  20. Doug Says:

    I like it

  21. 813bucboi Says:

    rather have carr or bridgewater…..dalton…meh…

    GO BUCS!!!!!!

  22. buccnbeliever Says:

    This is what we call a bargaining chip.

    I’m starting to think the bucs are drafting a QB no matter who they sign to play this year.

  23. BucEmUp Says:

    Id take Carr over Dalton but want Winston.

    I hate it when people say “A change of scenery may do him good” Its not the change of scenery it’s the change of going from a crap team to a good team
    Tannehill sucked in Miami and they wouldn’t have sniffed the playoffs without that defense and.running game in Tennesee.

    Jameis now is light years better than Tannehill in Miami do give Jameis a strong defense and running game like Tannehill had in Tennesee and he may go undefeated and won’t have to take big risks throwing the ball.Second year in the offense, no broken hand, eyes fixed, Evan’s and Godwin back.

    Don’t be stupid Bucs…..please don’t throw away a franchise qb.Peyton manning threw how many ints in his first five years? Please don’t be dumb. Nobody says you HAVE to like Jamie’s Winston but don’t try and drive him out of town because he has been.surrounded by crap for 4 and 1/2 seasons

  24. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Andy Dalton sucks. Winston is much better.

  25. Aceofaerospace Says:

    I’ll be glad when the decision is made.

  26. Tbbucs3 Says:

    Chris Simms should probably stop talking about the Bucs.

  27. AlteredEgo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. Says:

    I can’t handle another season of Jameis’s historical play…if he comes back and plays like he has played this town will EXPLODE !

  28. Tbbucs3 Says:

    813

    I’d take Carr but Bridgewater? Bridgewater is ultimate bait right now let’s be honest no one has any clue if Bridgewater is good or not.

    It was 5 games with the Saints, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl and flopped with the Jags. Bridgewater is not a superstar quarterback but he’s an average starter/high end backup and Jameis is better.

    It’s either Jameis or Carr…….nothing else should even be an option.

  29. HomerSimpsonRocks Says:

    Yes please. Dalton is much more reliable than the ATM.

  30. Stanglassman Says:

    BucEmUp- I feel the same way. I just know most of the people who don’t want Jameis here never did never will. Outside of the metro areas it’s still very much the South, lots of ‘heritage’ flags and all. He just doesn’t fit their ‘profile’ of what a Qb should look like and Andy Dalton does.

    Fun fact: Andy Dalton played peewee football with Jacquizz Rodgers on the Buccaneers. How’d I know that? My brother was the head coach. I helped him coach one week while I was visiting. And followed their careers since.

  31. Tampabuscsbro Says:

    >it’s cause we are in the south full of a bunch of racists that can’t handle having a black QB

    ……THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE DUMBEST STATEMENTS I HAVE EVER HEARD.

    You do realize that there are a bunch of people calling for bridgewater right? That think it’s time to move on from Winston.

  32. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Does hating Gingers make me racist?

  33. WestChap Says:

    Go fish.

  34. Bucsfanman Says:

    I can’t believe the breadth of desperation in this fanbase to think that Winston cannot be replaced. EVERYONE can be replaced!
    So, by some’s logic, a veteran QB can’t come in to this offense with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, decent TEs and be successful?! And, by what measure are we assigning “success” to Jameis? Yards? TDs? How about wins?!
    I’m sure that without even looking that Dalton’s W/L ratio is better than Jameis. I’d go so far as to state that he actually has a WINNING record overall!
    So, tell me again just how much “better” Winston is than Dalton!
    The fun part is that I don’t even like Dalton to the Bucs! These statements just make my head swim!
    EVERYONE can be replaced!

  35. DBS Says:

    I seriously doubt half you people know what “outside the metro area” is except to go to the Strawberry Festival. The Stars and Bars are not flying like you say. In fact most of the people are in new gated communities or subdivisions and are transplants.

  36. Mike Johnson Says:

    I’s keep Jameis any day before I’d go after Dalton.

  37. Wesley Says:

    Go get him and draft a q.b..

  38. Brandon Davidson Says:

    Dalton is garbage that is a horrible idea Sims was horrible why would anyone listen to his opinion even Andy Dalton doesn’t want Andy Dalton lol

  39. Hamsadwitchtime Says:

    No! Just No

  40. Hamsadwitchtime Says:

    Anybody taking Dalton over Winston … put the pipe down slowly and back away

  41. Buczilla Says:

    I’ve never considered Dalton more than an average quarterback and I don’t think that he is the answer. When you tally up Jameis’s awesome plays along with his ” wtf is he doing?” plays, he ends up average or even below average imo. In the end, I’d rather have Jameis because of the upside, but what the heck do I know? I’ve gotta have faith that the “quarterback whisperer” knows what the he’ll he is doing and if he chooses to go with the red peashooter, so be it.

  42. gotbbucs Says:

    The fact that Joe doesn’t want Dalton makes me think that Dalton then is probably the right choice.

    I like Dalton at $17 million a lot better than Winston at $27 million. I’ll take Dalton over Winston right now easily. Dalton over Winston means you keep the band together on defense.

  43. Jean Lafitte Says:

    This will never happen especially after the scathing words Jameis 1 of 1 (Jason Licht) had to say about Chris Simms after Simms critique of Jameis.

  44. NPRSageBoy. Says:

    At the very least, Dalton isn’t a turnover machine. Plus he did take some pretty average Bengal teams to the playoffs.

    I’d still prefer Derek Carr, but since we’re dreaming here, why not go all out and wish for Tom Brady?

    Peace, out

  45. Tye Says:

    If the owners want to add intrigue so the fans remain interested, Carr or Dalton would do it..
    Following their progress through off-season and preseason to see what kind of chance they may give us at a winning season…
    The moment they announce they are playing JW 2020, a vast number of people will instantly check out and may or may not return next season…
    5 years of hearing next year is a make or break year, at the end of the losing season, next year he’ll play well… Just to be lied to the next year..

    I’m still looking for a team to say they covet JW and willing to sign him who some people think he is suppose to win a SB with…
    I wouldn’t be surprised if he struggle on another team and he isn’t even starting anywhere I 2021!

  46. Stanglassman Says:

    We like Theodore Edmond Bridgewater Jr. too. LOL

  47. Bird Says:

    Hard pass

  48. FB Moderated!! Says:

    americas bucs fan wants to be entertained. Dalton isn’t entertaining, winston is. Only Arians knows what he would be more likely to win with. In arians I trust.

  49. Bucs Guy Says:

    Carr > Dalton. Younger, more mobile, stronger arm and a 3 year contract. Let’s hope TB12 goes to Vegas so Carr becomes available. Not sure Bridgewater is a fit for BA’s system and Hill is unproven.

    JW hasn’t done it in 5 years, no reason to believe he’ll do it in year 6. I don’t want Rivers (too old/out of gas), Tannehill (not good enough) or Cam (injury prone/inconsistent) at all unless we are losing for Lawrence.

  50. gotbbucs Says:

    I’m down with Derek Carr too if he became available.

  51. bucsfaninoregon Says:

    ANYBODY but this torture Famous Jameis has put us through. Let’s get somebody else- -at least it won’t be the same INT over and over again. You know the pick-6 INTs.

  52. Ndog Says:

    You people are ridiculous.

  53. bucy Says:

    Would be happy with any QB besides the uber assaulter TBH.

  54. DoooshLaRue Says:

    At least we know Dalton is okay with wearing hideous uniforms.

    I know, we’re getting new ones….. but until I see them….

  55. Ndog Says:

    It is truly hilarious that anyone that has ever watched football would think that either Bridgewater or Dalton are even on the same planet talent wise as Jameis. I mean you guys can’t be for real with these comments. I mean just look at the traits that make up a great longtime QB.

    Accuracy: They are all fairly even until it comes to 20 yard plus throws then Jameis blows them away.
    Arm Strength: Jameis by a mile
    Mobility: Jameis by a mile
    Youth: Jameis
    Competitive drive: Jameis
    Decision making: debatable but I’ll give you Bridgewater for arguments sake

    How is this a debate?

  56. DoooshLaRue Says:

    You can’t assume to know competitive drive unless you’re inside their heads.
    ….. or you believe the bullsh!t.

    Mobility?
    Yes, JayMiss is Capable if running….. into the waiting arms of the defense.
    Have you ever watched a game?

    So I’ll give you:

    Youth
    Arm strength

    And I’ll trade it all for …… intelligence.

  57. Craig Says:

    When the Bengals had good teams Dalton took them to the playoffs four times. That, in itself, blows Jameis out of the water .

    If Jameis’ long balls are so good why is his average of longest passes per season only 71? Dalton’s is 86. Average yards per pass is the same at 7.1.

    In his career Dalton has 204 TDs and 118 interceptions. Jameis has 121 and 88. That percentage is also lop-sided for Dalton.

    The entire Bengals teams has been awful for four years. Coming to the Bucs would be a new hope for Dalton and also for all of the suffering fans of Tampa. His short ball release is much faster than that of Jameis and his long ball release is also faster than that long windup that Jameis needs to get the ball down the field.

    By the way, this is the only season that Jameis got halfway accurate on the long ball and his short ball suffered. Dalton can through both of those in the same game. Jameis can’t seem to do that.

  58. DoooshLaRue Says:

    Craig

    Your stats don’t factor in just how “entertaining” the Soiled Messiah truly is.
    That counts for a lot for some people.

    Just not those who care about winning.

  59. T REX Says:

    I would totally take Bridgewater. Winston is a bust and a loser. He had 5 years to lead us to the playoffs. He ain’t happening folks.

    Anyone who plays the race card should be permabanned on the spot. IP address banned.

    That’s how divisive Winston is…he sucks and divides the fan base. Double whammy.

  60. T REX Says:

    ndog with his made up chart of opinions. What a tool. LOL. Bravo clown, bravo.

  61. Aaron Says:

    I’m going to have to watch some old Raider games…I think Carr sucks…he had a great o-line and running game…and just doesn’t seem to want to make a throw…and checks down.

  62. Jean Lafitte Says:

    When it comes down to their personal body of work
    Dalton > Winston
    When it comes down to arm strength
    Winston > Dalton
    When it comes down to winning
    Dalton > Winston
    When it comes down to youth
    Winston > Dalton
    When it comes down to experience
    Dalton > Winston
    When it comes down to Pro Bowls
    Dalton > Winston
    When it comes down to availability
    Winston = Dalton
    When it comes down to best valued price
    Dalton > Winston

    conclusion: Dalton > Winston

  63. Pelsbuc61 Says:

    Anyone but ATM! This nonsense of one more year so he can turn it around is madness.

  64. Defense Rules Says:

    Aaron … Carr passed for over 4,000 yards last season. Over 6 seasons he’s averaged 24 TDs/season against a little over 10 INTs/season, and 3,800 passing yards/season.

    That level of production doesn’t equate to a guy who “just doesn’t seem to want to make a throw…and checks down”.

  65. Defense Rules Says:

    Aaron … Carr passed for over 4,000 yards last season. Over 6 seasons he’s averaged 24 TDs/season against a little over 10 INTs/season, and 3,800 passing yards/season.

    That level of production doesn’t equate to a guy who “just doesn’t seem to want to make a throw…and checks down”.

  66. SteveK Says:

    Ndog,

    You’re really funny! Decision making “debatable”. Mistakes aka turnovers aka poor decisions statistically show Jameis is the worst. “Debatable”.

    And if Jameis has more turnovers and a lot of picks, how is he more “accurate”?

    Please. Be. Objective.

    I understand if you go turtle and come back with “clueless this, clueless that”

  67. Wisconsinbucsfan Says:

    Is anyone foolish enough to believe we could win a playoff game with Jay miss at quarterback. Any game on line pressure he folds like house of cards. NFW we win playoff game with 2+ turnovers and the ATM will hand out TO’s

  68. Skipper Says:

    Absolutely NO to Dalton.

  69. Stanglassman Says:

    Dalton was a decent game manager on a good team and got exposed once the team wasn’t so good. The major difference between him and Jameis is that Jameis would have taken that same Cinci team deep in the playoffs and probably won them a Super Bowl. All Qbs need a decent team around them to perform well and consistently win games. It’s not hard to understand.

    Right now if any of the ‘experts’ on Tv said Dalton was better than Jameis they’d get laughed off the set. Nobody who scouts, coaches or team executive believes Dalton is currently a better Qb going forward.

  70. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    Ndog Says:
    February 21st, 2020 at 7:43 pm
    It is truly hilarious that anyone that has ever watched football would think that either Bridgewater or Dalton are even on the same planet talent wise as Jameis. I mean you guys can’t be for real with these comments. I mean just look at the traits that make up a great longtime QB.

    Accuracy: They are all fairly even until it comes to 20 yard plus throws then Jameis blows them away.
    Arm Strength: Jameis by a mile
    Mobility: Jameis by a mile
    Youth: Jameis
    Competitive drive: Jameis
    Decision making: debatable but I’ll give you Bridgewater for arguments sake

    How is this a debate?
    _____________________________________

    RESPONSE to @Ndog:

    JW is SUPERIOR to both Dalton and TBridge. Period. Every category. Agree @Ndog

    What I don’t know, as fan, is BA playbook/Leftwich play-calling that led to 30 INTs. Was is just bad execution by JW, and/or bad actors on the team?

    as Ex: RB’s, like Dare Ogunbowale (I’m so bad) running sloppy routes on screen passes. Never seen so many INTs on screen plays/slants to RB’s…ever… (At least 3 ints)

    Or – sloppy routes by WR’s, who “thought” the passes were NOT going to them?

    ME13 and Godwin – Excellent

    Other WR’s…hmm. Perriman stepped up at end of year.

    INTS on passes to ME13 – Still conflicted! Bad passes by JW?….Predictable play calls? Bad routes? Maybe ME13 not expecting? At least 4 INTs here.

    Godwin – Total KING – Made bad passes look good. caught every ball – pay this guy!!! No INT’s to Godwin, that I recall.

    As a fan – I could 100% PREDICT the passes, to who, in certain down-situations.

    Geez, do ya think, that the paid professional D-coaches and athletes, could do better than me? Fishing is a barrel. Offense was TOO predictable based on lack of running game.

    Finally, BA/Licht have to draft a RB threat. And O-Line stud….

    YR 2 in Bruce Offense – JW will improve. and lead Bucs deep in playoffs.

    Resign JW

  71. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    RESPONSE to @Ndog:

    JW is SUPERIOR to both Dalton and TBridge. Period. Every category. Agree @Ndog

    What I don’t know, as fan, is BA playbook/Leftwich play-calling that led to 30 INTs. Was is just bad execution by JW, and/or bad actors on the team?

    as Ex: RB’s, like Dare Ogunbowale (I’m so bad) running sloppy routes on screen passes. Never seen so many INTs on screen plays/slants to RB’s…ever… (At least 3 ints)

    Or – sloppy routes by WR’s, who “thought” the passes were NOT going to them?

    ME13 and Godwin – Excellent

    Other WR’s…hmm. Perriman stepped up at end of year.

    INTS on passes to ME13 – Still conflicted! Bad passes by JW?….Predictable play calls? Bad routes? Maybe ME13 not expecting? At least 4 INTs here.

    Godwin – Total KING – Made bad passes look good. caught every ball – pay this guy!!! No INT’s to Godwin, that I recall.

    As a fan – I could 100% PREDICT the passes, to who, in certain down-situations.

    Geez, do ya think, that the paid professional D-coaches and athletes, could do better than me? Fishing is a barrel. Offense was TOO predictable based on lack of running game.

    Finally, BA/Licht have to draft a RB threat. And O-Line stud….

    YR 2 in Bruce Offense – JW will improve. and lead Bucs deep in playoffs.

    Resign JW

  72. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Winston haters: “Jaymis hasn’t done it in 5 years! Get Carr!”

    Reality: Carr hasn’t done it in 6 years.

    Irony.

  73. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    REDZONE BA Fan, fans hated on Leftwich for calling so many deep plays. Ironically, most of Jame’ picks were not on deep plays.

  74. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    • Carr hasn’t done it in 6 years
    • Dalton hasn’t done it in 9 years
    • Bridgewater hasn’t done it in 5 years

  75. T REX Says:

    Winston still sucks.

  76. REDZONE BA Fan Says:

    @Buccaneer Bonzai

    Agree about deep passes/INTs. Which was my rant….INTs NOT about deep passes.

    My real question was about predictability of play-calling. Especially absent of threat of run game. And fall-out from there…. see my post.

  77. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Tampabuscsbro Says:
    >it’s cause we are in the south full of a bunch of racists that can’t handle having a black QB

    ……THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE DUMBEST STATEMENTS I HAVE EVER HEARD.

    You do realize that there are a bunch of people calling for bridgewater right? That think it’s time to move on from Winston.
    .
    .

    Stan Glassman fits the profile of someone who likes to keep some racial spit stirred up. He brings up race more than NDog and DB55.

  78. Swampbuc Says:

    Simms must be smoking a lot of weed again.

  79. Rod Munch Says:

    LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

  80. Bob in Valrico Says:

    When Jameis focuses on one thing like the deep ball it often exposes another important facet of his game. Case in point his short game has suffered with a
    22 % drop in QB rating as compared to 11 -30 yard passes. These are the passes that sustain drives and get you in the endzone.
    There are other areas where Jameis has slipped ,IMO he is no longer the comeback QB that FSU fans became enamored with. His QB rating dropped off
    17% in the second half. His fourth quarter completion percentage dropped down to 55.8 percent. We have lost at least 23 of 25 games when Jameis completion percentage drops down to 55.6%.
    IMO Jameis has enough deficiiencies in isituational football area, that he would probably need multiple seasons to correct them all. So I have to wonder
    if there are so many things going on in Jameis head that he loses some focus on the immediate task at hand .

  81. cgmaster27 Says:

    The fact that there are people on here that would actually welcome this actually stuns me. I know we have some trolls and some dense fans in here , but my goodness. And to all of you who are pining to TRADE FOR DERICK CARR?!
    All I hear from you same people is that Jameis is a loser. He can’t win. Well guess what, Carr has the Most losses in his first 6 seasons in the league! Jameis would have to go 3-13 this year to have as many loses as Carr. Or does the win loss thing only count when it includes Jameis?

  82. Drew Says:

    Andy Dalton…Derek Carr and other average old quarterbacks that their teams are getting rid of..Pay Jameis his money….That’s the bottom line…Instead of me being a couch coach or basing my decision on race, get any one of those so called expert analysts or columnists to ask the bucs receivers who caught over a 1000 yards what they think about the Bucs trading Jameis. Please do that for me…Need to know their answer.

  83. Drew Says:

    Andy Dalton, Derek Carr are washed up….The Bucs need an offensive line..period..Put any one of those quarterbacks behind that offensive line and let’s see the results… Interceptions in a single season…George Blanka..42..Fran Tarkenton..32 Ken Stabler..30…Brett Favre…29…Peyton Manning…28…Joe Namath…28..all these guys are hall of famers…stop with this get rid of Jameis winston..pay the man

  84. Aaron Says:

    I trust whomever BA goes with at QB – not comparing JW to Carr but when you look at the intended Air Yards Per Attempt. It shows that Carr checks down a lot…and JW pushes the ball down field a lot…we know our offense is designed to push the ball down field. I have no idea if the Raiders offense is designed to get the ball out quickly or not…there has to be a reason why John Gruden wants to get rid of a QB that he controls for 3 more years at $20m per year…

    JW was 3rd at 10.4 (remember no running game to PA off of – PA increases this #)

    Carr was 30th at 6.6 (good running game to PA off off…was still 30th)

    If BA thinks Carr can run his offense – I’m on board.

    GO Bucs!

  85. ToesOnTheLine!!! Says:

    The price is right on Dalton at $17M (ish) for the last year of his contract. He’s proven himself as a solid starting QB, unlike Bridgewater, and he’s probably got more gas left in the tank than Rivers. Jameis probably has more talent, but based on production he’s not worth a huge contract. I would be totally fine with a player or day 3 draft pick trade for Dalton and drafting a QB if Winston holds firm on anything more than mid-$20M year. No way has he earned a $30M+ per year deal.