Report: Bucs Evaluating Brees, Brady & Rivers
February 1st, 2020The Tampa Bay Times is reporting that Bucs quarterback coach and Bruce Arians confidant Clyde Christensen was asked to write scouting reports on Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Phillip Rivers — and that he was in that process last week.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:01 am
Some big brass ones there.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:02 am
Eeny meany miny moe!
Yes please! Win now, stop banking on unrealized potential.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:03 am
I’d be ok with all three as a short term fix as long as we draft a QB in round 1… Maybe Herbert or Eason?
February 1st, 2020 at 11:06 am
Brees!
February 1st, 2020 at 11:08 am
Imagining Brees throwing to Evans and Godwin gives you goosebumps.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:13 am
The “Word on the street” is that team Glazer are panicking of an empty stadium if they bring aimless back, and that most likely ithis s ole stale biscuit last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 1st, 2020 at 11:18 am
Calm down everyone. The report could easily say, “No” for all three. For different reasons (cost, age, ability, etc), it could be that none of them would be a fit for the Bucs. Also, this could be a smoke-screen (really looking at a different FA QB), or a negotiation tactic.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:19 am
Smells like a plant to help drive down the price tag on Winston.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:23 am
I’d hope they’re doing their due diligence to scout all potential FA QBs
February 1st, 2020 at 11:23 am
And what team does not have a scouting report on *every* FA?
February 1st, 2020 at 11:24 am
Let Winston go and the fans will have run off another great one before his prime. Please Bucs don’t let this happen. Quit repeating the same mistakes that only sets this franchise back. Go Bucs! Go Winston!
February 1st, 2020 at 11:24 am
It has been debated that If the Bucs bring back JW, they certainly won’t add another fan but most likely lose a great number of season ticket holders..
But going into 2020 season with a fresh new face at QB could and should renew a refreshing hope and belief in a possible winning season..
February 1st, 2020 at 11:25 am
Those are options? God help us. Let’s all stop pretending. Jameis is coming back.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:27 am
I told my rep that Brady would fill the stadium. If they want ticket sales, that’s the way to go.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:30 am
I’m fine with any of these, provided they’re willing to break the bank on moving up in 2021 for Lawrence (who is better than every QB this year not named Burrow)
February 1st, 2020 at 11:30 am
If Brady comes here I’m canceling my season tickets. What an idiot. He’s 42. He couldn’t win with the Patriots. SMH
February 1st, 2020 at 11:36 am
the real issue with brady and brees is they have been in one place for so long, that to uproot and restart fresh for a couple years is a whole task at hand itself…
when they go to work it’s business as usual…same locker, same shower, same this and that…
to change teams means everything is different until you get inside the white lines…
they both will most likely want to keep everything status quo to end their hof careers…
February 1st, 2020 at 11:37 am
No one cares if you cancel your season tickets. The amount of tickets that will be sold will out weigh the couple fans who decide not to renew their season tickets. Then when the Bucs are playoff contenders you’ll come back to buy your tickets. So go ahead and make a stand, don’t renew your season tickets. You’ll really show the Glazers with a bold move like that
February 1st, 2020 at 11:38 am
they want to bring in a bridge guy to eason is what it looks like…
jameis is undoubtedly not filling the seats…
and that’s the bottom line
February 1st, 2020 at 11:40 am
arians will be outta here after 2 more years with the qb they bring in…
the bucs want a title in arians third year of coaching here…
then he can mosey on outta here
February 1st, 2020 at 11:48 am
Lol how can the stadium get any more empty?? riddle me that!
Team glaser already gives away tickets to homeless people, but
instead of going to the game they try to sell the tickets, but there’s no buyers!
That empty stadium is hilarious. Howard chuckles every time the camera accidently pans the stands…and no…the red seats don’t fool anyone!
Seriously look at the entitlement: our infighting-owner-siblings get away with creating a debacle like that and no one says a word…..on 2 continents no less!
February 1st, 2020 at 11:50 am
I just do not see Brees leaving N.O. He’s even indicated he hasn’t made up his mind on whether to play next year. Since it would be a round 20 years if he returns..since he’s playing for a coach he likes and on a team that is clearly SB caliber and will be again next season…IMO Brees returns for at least one more year to complete unfinished business and play in one more SB.
Brady…most here feel the same way as I just outlined Brees. My only hope of him coming here is that there seems to be some friction between he and Belicheat. Perhaps they are just playing poker and bluffing. Time will tell. IF..and that’s a HUGE if…he leaves N.E. I like our chances.
Rivers…probably an upgrade over JW in the short term…but so is the Red Rifle Dalton and somebody(sorry I’m not going through all the threads to give ‘credit’ which makes Wyoming idiot go nuckin futs) even brought up Case Keenum. Not as outlandish as I first thought when I went to the stats. He did go 11-3 in a magic year with the talented Vikings.
February 1st, 2020 at 11:53 am
Tom Brady alone, makes way too much sense. Ownership will have to be VERY determined and incredibly benevolent to Tommy, if they truly want to change the allure of the organization.
Just. Go. Get. It.
Brees as a backup on a 2 year deal, would be an acceptable back-up option, and could NetJet to NOLA without a problem, leaving his established large family there. Plus the allure of beating your former team in division twice a year.
NO WAY…to Rivers. NO.
February 1st, 2020 at 12:01 pm
Hmmmnnn..this This is getting more intriguing by the day. And here it is I was thinking Jameis was a lock to return. Could it be…The Bucs get Cahones and send him packing?
February 1st, 2020 at 12:16 pm
This is a delusional fan base.
February 1st, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Adam:
Jameis is NOT the reason for empty seats. It’s because of fat lazy fu¢k$ who don’t want to get off their a$$ and go to a game. It’s pathetic
February 1st, 2020 at 12:23 pm
Tbbucs3:
Couldn’t agree more. A bunch of idiots
February 1st, 2020 at 12:29 pm
I gets harder every day to be a fan of this franchise.
February 1st, 2020 at 12:35 pm
Dude said Brees as a backup. 😂
February 1st, 2020 at 12:49 pm
Aside from their gaudy career numbers, the thing I like most about those 3 names is that none of them have ever served a suspension for groping a woman.
February 1st, 2020 at 12:53 pm
Then they look at the numbers from the TV and new media revenue and the projected numbers from future TV contracts in the next two years and chortle while firing up another Gurkha Royal Courtesan.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:15 pm
Nice plant here by the Bucs lol. Who needs an f-ing scouting report on Brees/Brady/Rivers..
February 1st, 2020 at 1:19 pm
Brees already commented that he will be qb of saints or will retire
Brees aint happening
Brady will not come here. But the guy that says if brady comes here he will sell season tickets. Well those tickets would be picked up in two seconds. Trust me . Season tickets would go thru the roof with brady . Jameis not so much as we have continue to see every year. Jameis is not putting fans in the stands.
Rivers is the big question mark. He didnt have the best year. But to throw passes to the best receiver and tight end combo in the nfl he would be intrigued. Im sure He could find OJ more often then he has been used here. He loved antonio gates for so many years.
But again i think jameis is here for another year on a tag
February 1st, 2020 at 1:22 pm
If you read between the lines of the Peter King report the Bucs are negotiating with Winston. They are not letting info get leaked unless it’s something they want leaked.
This could very well be a negotiating tactic. We just don’t know.
These rumors about other QBs have little merit right now. Once we get closer to March leading into free agency these rumors will mean a whole lot more and be more revealing at which direction the team is leading.
For now it’s fun to think about these HOF QBs as possibilitys.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:32 pm
We need a field general who can galvanize a team and win meaningful games. I cringe at the thought of JW under center for a big game. He simply melts. I’m also weary of bringing in a legend who doesn’t move well with rapidly diminishing arm talent. And when you add marketing and economics to the equation it just complicates this even further. Regardless if you’re pro Winston or not, this is a VERY difficult decision for the Bucs who arguably are entering a window of opportunity to win now. How they navigate the next three months will either catapult them into relevance or set the franchise back another five years. Tbd…
February 1st, 2020 at 1:37 pm
Tend to agree. Been around long enough and have grown cynical enough to know cash and opportunity changes people’s minds. It’s hard to believe Brees would leave the Saints but the Bucs should do their homework just in case.
Tend to agree as well but it has nothing to do with football and everything to do with business (read: wifey). Brady (and his wife) will get far, far more visibility and rub elbows with far, far more business movers and shakers in Los Angeles (Chargers) or Las Vegas (entertainment capital of the world) than in Tampa Bay. Had the Dolphins been looking for a free agent quarterback, think Brady would very much be in play there as well (wifey’s business contacts in Miami).
This is no longer the 1970s. Fans in the stands means less and less every year. Last checked, gross revenue NFL teams get from attendance is less than 20 percent of the full revenue pie. If fans in the stands was important, the NFL would never have gotten rid of blackouts. It’s more about national visibility and buzz (yes and wins) and Jameis gives the Bucs that, bad or good. Joe personally experienced this a few days ago at the Super Bowl. The Glazers *love* this. Joe understands how this infuriates fans, but it is true. As Terry Bradshaw said, if the Bucs were winning, Jameis’ status wouldn’t be an issue.
Big time question mark! Rivers is very much the wild card.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:37 pm
Joe thought the same. 🙂
February 1st, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Tampa Bay Times is delusional LMAO
February 1st, 2020 at 1:53 pm
@Buccernutter..
Reading clearly a challenge for ya mongrel…
Brees was clearly referenced above as a back-up option, when not securing Brady’s services as option #1. Imbecile.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:55 pm
Definitely trying to drive down Winston price tag. Hes asking way too much. He could very well improve but I dont want to wait and see… hes simply terrible in big games and I’ve turned off numerous games.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:57 pm
@Tbbucs3…and the esteemed @TampaTown…
“Idiots” do abound. You empty vacuums continue to contribute so much, reflect on such astute insights. Free speech is hey…free speech. Morons.
February 1st, 2020 at 1:59 pm
Tampa town. Jameis is the reason the seats are empty. Lol. Just watch the games where he throws multiple picks in a home game. It’s hilarious.
February 1st, 2020 at 2:10 pm
Nothing but a veiled negotiating ploy aimed at ATM’s agent but nevertheless, I hope JW prices his way out of Tampa. Jimmy Johnson said it best, most exciting losing team to watch. Better to be the most boring winning team and that will mean finding a QB that doesnt’s throw TDs for the other team. I hope the Glazers grow a pair and split from JW.
February 1st, 2020 at 2:30 pm
See…even the lengthy post at 1:37 is free to elaborate on his (opinions)..too.
In retort to that though…one glaring omission there. The same drive, determination for unparalleled success that created the Brady name we know today, now drives the same Mt. Rushmore sized chip on Tommy’ s shoulder to ….win a SuperBowl out from under Belichick. Fact. Thus the Chargers and Raiders extensive squad deficiencies (no matter the off-season spending/drafting overhauls) will allow for anywhere the same probability of competitive success from the jump, as the Bucs would. Lastly there, the “Brady brand” and Tom’s arrogance CANNOT ALLOW for Brady to step out from under Belichick’s shadow, into then known mediocrity, proving Belichick to the greater public, as the defacto cause of the previous 6 title dynasty.
Also, there wasn’t the angle purported at 1:37pm of how the ownership here could creatively use future franchise ownership share as a GIANT fishhook for Tommy boy.
Concrete things to be (have been) factored in.
February 1st, 2020 at 2:34 pm
A. Bucs dont need to do anything to drive down Winston’s price he did that in the last two games of the season and also by ending the season on a pick 6. Where so some people get their logic
B. Bucs are losing another great one? Wtf!!!! Yea bucs are tired of all the winning under the greatness of winston lol. If your going to be a great quarterback it usually doesn’t take 6 years for it to happen. If you cant be big time when your salary is cheap then your asking someone to overpay you because you can be once you get money
February 1st, 2020 at 2:41 pm
“Nice plant here by the Bucs lol. Who needs an f-ing scouting report on Brees/Brady/Rivers..”
This is a high stakes poker game. JW’s agent opened by saying JW’s got two suitors, the Gumpster Fire just raised.
Ever see that poker player with the blank look on his face and the hoodie pulled over his head and hiding behind the dark sunglasses.
That’s Gump.
February 1st, 2020 at 2:49 pm
It would be best if the Bucs and James parted ways. It wouldn’t be fair to Jameis if he returned to such a divided, critical fan base. If the team brought him back it would adversely affect ticket sales and further drive this divisive narrative which may impact team chemistry. This team needs to start winning at home and one way that could happen is with added fan support. This team is on the verge of the playoffs and a steadier, more dependable QB could be the difference.
February 1st, 2020 at 2:59 pm
You cretin……the Lightning sellout every game and the Bucs sold out RJS when they were good….a long long time ago.
February 1st, 2020 at 3:04 pm
Unfortunately you are absolutely correct, sir. Howard rests his case.
February 1st, 2020 at 3:33 pm
I was done with Jaymiss back when he got benched for Fitz. Then we had to see him come back that year and do nothing but throw pics all last year. The only delusional fans are the ones that think Winston can change. Even with the age of Brady and Brees they are still way better than Winston. Hell I would gamble on a rookie coming in and playing better than watching the crap show that is Winston for another year. I want to see a QB that doesn’t throw to the other team half the time.
February 1st, 2020 at 3:40 pm
Howard Cosell:
Sadly, it can always be worse…
Let’s hope it doesn’t go there
A proven veteran QB and early QB draft pick seems more and more likely as we haven’t heard much open support from ownership/management for Winston
If the strategy is to devalue Winston to get a deal, it doesn’t send a very positive message or play well in marketing.
Oh, we can be much much worse with or without Winston. That potential is always there….
February 1st, 2020 at 3:40 pm
this aint good for JW…..
we dont hear the staff scouting FA OLB/DE to replace SHAQ or JPP….
GO BUCS!!!!!!!!
February 1st, 2020 at 3:56 pm
Oh please let it be true. I’m not going to live forever.
February 1st, 2020 at 4:47 pm
Too many Pick 6s that lead to losses is the reason for the empty seats. You’re supposed to build a winner with your franchise QB on his rookie deal. That ship sailed before last season when JayMiss made $21M. Now he wants $30M? Take a walk.
Peace, out.
February 1st, 2020 at 6:13 pm
Step 1: Resign Shaq Barrett before free agency
Step 2: Franchise Jameis( he will not sign it until he has to)
Step 3: Begin speaking with Free Agent QB’s that would be available: Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, Teddy Bridgewater, Marcus Mariota, Case Keenum.
If you can sign Brady, Rivers or Bridgewater to a solid but not market setting contract you do it.(Proceed to Step 4a) If not, then you have Jameis on 1 year franchise deal, a prove it deal like Cousins had before he left Washington.(Proceed to Step 4b)
Step 4a: Free Agent Quarterback has been signed, draft future QB in 2020 draft to sit and learn.(Proceed to Step 5a)
Step 4b: No Free agent QB signed, Jameis on franchise tag, and draft a future QB to pressure Jameis for the first time in his career.(Proceed to Step 5b)
Step 5a: Wait until the last minute and drop the franchise tag on Jameis when you have all your duck in a row. Similar to what Carolina did with Josh Norman a few years back.
Step 5b: Go into the season with Jameis as the starter and Jacob Eason or Justin Herbert, or Jordan Love as the back up.
*If you want Herbert, you are probably going to have to trade up for him
February 1st, 2020 at 7:10 pm
The captain of the Titanic decided to go to bed and not give the lookouts proper binoculars, the Glazers and Licht be like, “Hold my beer”. #NoPlayoffs
February 1st, 2020 at 7:44 pm
It’s that a job requirement to evaluate potential free agents that hit the market in a position that you’re looking into? Wake me up when Free agency starts. All the rumors before March makes me tired.
February 1st, 2020 at 8:46 pm
What they should be looking for is a G.M., kicker, left,right tackles, running back, safety, and a center. If one of the above Quarter backs come here it is a money grab, this team is in bad shape,because of this G.M. but no one calls for his head only the black guy.
February 1st, 2020 at 8:57 pm
Ed,
Jensen played well this last year. Donovan smith did ok.
I think the former number one overall pick, seeking a 30 million salary, should be taking better care of the football in year five.
February 1st, 2020 at 9:46 pm
Wow. Not wow that they are doing it, but wow that Rick Stroud once again makes up a story.
He pulls this stuff every off season. Come on, people.
February 2nd, 2020 at 6:06 am
Joe says: “This is no longer the 1970s. Fans in the stands means less and less every year. Last checked, gross revenue NFL teams get from attendance is less than 20 percent of the full revenue pie. If fans in the stands was important, the NFL would never have gotten rid of blackouts. It’s more about national visibility and buzz (yes and wins) and Jameis gives the Bucs that, bad or good. Joe personally experienced this a few days ago at the Super Bowl. The Glazers *love* this. Joe understands how this infuriates fans, but it is true. As Terry Bradshaw said, if the Bucs were winning, Jameis’ status wouldn’t be an issue.”
Uh, the Glazers do not like bad visiblity and buzz. Winston has brought NOTHING positive to Glazers other than by their good graces, they have not made sure he is sent packing. After every realistic chance, they how him nothing. Yes, 20% (a bit more actually) is from ticket sales, but full stands are a reflection of fan sentiment. And “members” that Bucs refer to as season ticket holders have fallen since the Uber issue came out and with the sad season following suspension–double dips. Winston is a BIG part of this team not “selling” like it used to, like it should be. Yes, losing is not good…but die hards hand with they lose…they don’t hang when they don’t like their QB, be it play or character. Winston will catch on somewhere and continue to be millions. But it’s probably not the amount he wants, the role he wants, and that is no one’s fault but his own.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:36 am
You need a true fight or flight, back-against-the-wall attitude to run an NFL franchise as an owner….if you’ve never had a true fight, or a true flight in your life…..if you’ve had truckloads of wealth showered on you…
And let me be clear: The prospect of losing billions when you would still have a comfortable (albeit, not wealthy) lifestyle is not a true threat.
True toughness of spirit comes from e.g. risking $100k when that’s every dime you have to your name
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:37 am
kind of like Malcolm
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:40 am
Just to spread the blame: The same syndrome is on display (to a lesser degree) in Oakland/Las Vegas
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:24 pm
Here’s the report: A goat, an almost goat and a rabbit