Ogunbowale Says Jameis & A Lot Of Quarterbacks Could Succeed In Bucs Offense
February 21st, 2020
Opens up
Joe’s no fan of Dare Ogunbowale as a Buccaneers running back, but he certainly has a hell of a story.
As a high school junior, Ogunbowale didn’t play much on his football team. Why? It was his first year playing football after a lifetime of playing soccer.
Just few years later, he earned a scholarship at the University of Wisconsin after being a walk-on. There he roomed with Melvin Gordon, who Ogunbowale said is messy and rude because he would play music at 2 a.m. while he doing sit-ups.
After being cut seven times in the NFL, Ogunbowale emerged last year as a major player for the Bucs, as a special teams captain and the go-to running back on passing downs and often in the red zone.
The 25-year-old shared his story recently on CBS Sports Radio, where he was asked if he believes in America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
Ogunbowale is a Jameis fan but acknowledged the Bucs will have good options because the system is so good.
“I definitely a believer [in Jameis],” Ogunbowale said. “Interceptions happen. Turnovers happen. But I feel like he’s just a talented quarterback and he gets more comfortable in this offense, you know, it was his first year with the coaching staff. So he gets more comfortable in the offense, you know, we’ll we see what happens.
“I feel like it’s a great offense and a lot quarterbacks, you know, could come in and have success in the offense also. So we’ll see what happens. Jameis is a great friend of mine and I love having him as a teammate, as a quarterback.”
Ogunbowale added “I feel like I’m a fan,” referencing watching Jameis chatter on TV. He predicted significant change is coming to the Bucs roster.
February 21st, 2020 at 10:23 am
More comfortable?
6 picks in last 2 games
February 21st, 2020 at 10:30 am
Tua Tagovailoa seems interesting. Mockers are predicting he’ll go to the Dolphins, but his injury and the fact that he is saying he’ll need a year to ‘rest up’ might actually make him fall to us. If that happens, I would jump on it.
February 21st, 2020 at 10:33 am
Re-sign Shaq.
Re-sign Suh.
Re-sign Nassib.
Let JPP walk (he’ll probably choose to anyway)
Sign Conklin.
Draft Tua Tagovailoa if he falls to us. If he doesn’t, draft JPPs replacement.
Draft a safety.
February 21st, 2020 at 10:42 am
What Alanbucsfan said ^^^^^
February 21st, 2020 at 10:44 am
re-sign SHAQ(4year deal)
re-sign JPP(3year deal)
re-sign SUH(1year deal with 2nd year team option)
re-sign nassib(1year deal with 2nd year team option)
offer JW 3years 85mil 1year 25guaranteed
sign conklin(3year deal)
draft kinlaw-R1
draft isaiah wilson-R2
draft FS-R3
draft aj dillion or l.perine-R4
draft BPA OG/C
draft BPA OLB/DE
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 21st, 2020 at 10:47 am
Not sure he’ll be back and if he is then we’ve got problems at the run game again
February 21st, 2020 at 10:49 am
Seems like the other players are ready for life post-Winston.
February 21st, 2020 at 10:50 am
Well, stop the Melvin Gordon to Bucs talk. We don’t need a rude, loud music playing, sit up interrupter on this squad.
February 21st, 2020 at 10:51 am
The same could be said about RB. There are a lot of RBs that could catch, block, and run in this offense. I’m not sure Ogunbowale is in a position to talk about who can have success in this offense considering his past year. Appreciate his insight, but it’s sort of the pot calling the kettle black
February 21st, 2020 at 10:54 am
Bonzai how do we replace JPP? He was the catalyst for the DL to rush the passer and an unquestioned leader. Im not sure Nassib and Nelson fit the bill at this point. & if we draft Tua we will have to wait a year for him to play. I agree that OL or DL should be the first pick – I prefer Epenesa at this point.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:03 am
We all knew this two years ago when there was no drop off when Fitz played!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is a reason why the sheep say wrongly that jay-miss is irreplaceable, but are scared to death, to even talk about a half decent backup coming to the Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2020 at 11:08 am
at this point almost any player asked has said almost any QB could run this offense.
If that is not them saying replace this bum I don’t know what else is.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:23 am
Dare seems like a good guy…but if this organization is going to be a SB contender…Dare better have some stiff competition to keep his roster spot. ST Captain or not.
JW3 will have a better TD/INT ratio in yr2 of BA’s vertical system…If he gets the chance… I can easily see him cut his mistakes by 1 a game & TB will be a play-off team…If he cuts mistakes by 2 a game … The Bucs could be serious SB contenders.
That has to be the mindset…That has to be the goal, if the FO is bringing JW3 back.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:40 am
Catcard,
Understandable to see that view. Just a tough pill
to swallow when considering re-upping for a sixth year after four losing years out of five, no playoffs, more turnovers than anyone else in the league, etc.
If the fans are force fed another year with Jameis, then, as realist points out, a total housecleaning will be in order if there are no playoffs.
Last year was no excuses, but we heard all about the wind, the kicker, and everything else in the book. My #1 overall pick and QB just ain’t it. Hope it was so, but it’s not and we need to wake up and smell the turnovers.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:43 am
Seems like all the players are parroting Arians: We have a strong team that can win with or without Jameis.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:45 am
Melvin Gordon took two years to figure out how to run in the NFL, maybe Dare has a chance next season, if the Bucs draft Taylor, Dobbins, or such.
Open competition would be a good thing for the Bucs next season, only if a real QB competition is included. I still would like to see what Griffin is all about when it counts. He can, at least, toss a good long ball and an outlet pass in the same game.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:46 am
I’m tired of people saying his TO’s will go down in year 2 of the offense. Just because it’s happened before with the other QB’s that Arians has coached does not mean it’s guaranteed to happen here. Winston is far more careless with the ball than ANY of the QB’s that Arians has worked with.
He has never shown he can be fixed and Arians is foolish thinking he can do it. He’s like the girl who thinks she can change the bad boy she’s dating, only to end up in the hospital with a broken jaw & nose after he decks her in the face.
February 21st, 2020 at 11:48 am
I can stop drinking anytime I want to excuse. Same o crap same o JW. Its funny how even if we get to the playoff in 2020 we will forget the last 5 years.
February 21st, 2020 at 12:04 pm
nothing new…..
BA said he could win with other QBs too……
GO BUCS!!!!!
February 21st, 2020 at 12:04 pm
H8JWLVEBUCS Says:
“I can stop drinking anytime I want to excuse. Same o crap same o JW.”
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Is this English?
February 21st, 2020 at 12:10 pm
I think a caveman wrote this last article…was it three verbs omitted?
After deciphering the caveman speak article I noticed the free agent desires in the comments…. here are mine.
Re-sign Shaq…years? sure, but a one-year deal on the franchise is smart business (projected 2020 cap hit $15-17 mil)
re-sign JPP… he was the catalyst for the defensive improvment. (projected cap hit $12-15 mil)
extend Godwin now. His price tag will only go up. He is the Jerry Rice-type worker and teammate that wins championships. (projected cap hit $12-15 mil)
Franchise or sign Jameis or other BA approved QB, they aren’t drafting a rookie to come in and start, BA didn’t come back for that, nor does he want to teach another vet his system and wait 8-16 games for him to get it. Our best bet, whether you want to admit it or not, is with Jameis finally GETTING IT. A three year deal, or franchise with an eye for the future in the draft. (projected cap hit $25-30 mil)
Let Suh walk. He played great for us but we have just north of $80 mil in cap room (he’d have a hit of $9-12 mil).
Nassib, i love him, but i don’t think we can afford him. He’s a spare part, a spare part with a motor that can play every position on the defensive front five except NT. (projected cap hit $6-9 mil).
Let Perriman walk. He will be making way more with another team as their #1 than he could ever make here to come back as our #3. (projected cap hit $9-11 mil)
Just in signing JPP, Shaq, a QB, and extending Godwin, i’ve manged to burn through $60 of our available $80+ salary cap. That leaves us very little money to spend. $10 mil on Suh or Nassib doesn’t seem likely.
Considering we have the best young trio of CBs in the league, Dean and Davis both finished top 5 in PDs as well as holding opposing QBs to 50% or less completions and that SMB it a proven playmaker, allowing only 4 TDs while posting 3 INTs, we don’t need competition. They are the competition. CB is not a free agency need.
That being said, maybe a safety… I know Joe likes to advocate dumping money at perceived problems, and signing vets. We had a proven vet safety last season… he did nothing. Darian Stewart was a Buccaneer the entire season and kept young players from getting reps and he barely played special teams. He didn’t exactly lead the way, did he? I wouldn’t mind Ashtyn Davis or Kyle Dugger being the selection in round 2.
As for the offensive line and running back. Bringing guys in on modest contracts to come in and compete would be smart. Overpaying for somebody would be stupid. We have $20 mil left to pay lots of holes, lots of depth guys are free agents. Not wasting it on one player would be ideal.
February 21st, 2020 at 12:10 pm
I’ve heard JayMiss described as a “slow twitch guy in a quick twitch position”.
Basically, if JayMiss can throw for 5100+ yds and 30+ TD with his mindset, a “quick twitch” guy could easily do the same without 30 INT.
Peace, out
February 21st, 2020 at 12:11 pm
yes, ints are all a part of the position… they happen..
But when you are a choke artist, they happen in critical points of the game…
Namely on the last play when the possibility of winning is the highest…
Look no further than his last 2 (yes, 2 games back to back)…
Not only effected the outcome of those games but also the difference between a winning season and a losing season!
Year 1-2, maybe its nerves, emotions, pressure…
Year 5 it moments to big for you… (Choke!).. just another part of some players..
February 21st, 2020 at 12:13 pm
fair question to ask but a lot of people are putting stock into him going into his second year and by no means is this meant as a knock on jameis so prefacing that beforehand.
but people claim arians’ offense is complex and because carson palmer rebounded in year 2, jameis will. but arent all NFL offenses complex? mahomes plays in a complex offense, so does every good quarterback in the league. rodgers was not marvelous this year but he played in a new offense and garopollo played his first full season for the 49ers without being injured.
are we putting too much stock into this? leftwich is calling the plays too not arians so he might have his own spin on it. the whole “this offense is complex” is a bit of a cop-out in my opinion. no nfl scheme is simple or else teams would lose every single week.
this reminds me of when the bucs kept having communication issues and not understanding mike smith’s “vanilla” defense.
February 21st, 2020 at 12:28 pm
A kick here, a throw there, a defensive stop or 2…And no one gives a rats ass about a few extra picks….Bucs would be in the play-offs w/ a winning record. (The only thing that matters is Wins & shots at SB contention.)
JW3 is not the ONLY thing stopping TB from being a consistent winner & SB contender…It’s been a 53man roster lacking in several areas & from several years. That’s the FO’s fault. The owners fault. Period.
The 2016 draft class flop & multiple FA fails in between, sure hasn’t helped the situation the last several years…So, I’m not willing to only point a finger at the QB position…We all know JW has made his fair share of boneheaded mistakes, but not every INT/Fumble is directly on him.
There’s 52 other guys on that roster that have to do their jobs, in order for the team to win. There’s a slew of coaches & analysis that need to put them in the best position to be successful. If all three areas aren’t aligned & working right…It goes to hell in a hand basket. The QB & HC take the heat..GM’s cover their own asses & moving parts here / there. (Look at just the current FO tenure & tell me I’m wrong???)
Everyone wants instant success & no learning curves because these guys are getting checks we fans could only dream of…But that is not how it works out in the NFL most of the time…Especially w/ QB’s & #1 picks…Have watched this play out for my fair share of QB’s across the league, across a multitude of decades… I for one, am tired of giving up on talented – yet not fully developed / matured Bucs QB’s just to see them go elsewhere & have SB seasons / MVP’s & HOF careers.
JW3 is a hell of a more like D.Williams, S.Young, V. Testaverde & T.Dilfer…Than he is J.Freeman…If he gets out of TB this year…He’ll go on to great success (in PIT or NE ) & the TB Bucs will have paid to develop & mature another QB for another team to reap the benefits of the finished product.
The Bucs will have some journeyman mentor & new Rook to sell tickets/merch, while Bucs keep beating Bucs & shuffling GM’s/ Coaching staffs until the Glazer Boys start that same process all over again.
February 21st, 2020 at 12:43 pm
El Buco Realisto Says:
February 21st, 2020 at 11:03 am
We all knew this two years ago when there was no drop off when Fitz played!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally you’re right….
Fitz had 12INTs and JW had 14INTs….
no drop off in dirks predictable offense!!!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!!!!
February 21st, 2020 at 12:57 pm
“Everyone wants instant success & no learning curves”
5 years is instant?
February 21st, 2020 at 1:16 pm
It’s funny how many people think Winston is going to be an all pro QB anywhere he goes and that people like belicheck will deal with his bullsh!t.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:17 pm
Mitch Says
“Bonzai how do we replace JPP?”
Well, Nassib only had a half season of starts, yet he still got 6 sacks. That puts him on pace for 12 sacks on a full season. Same thing the year before. So far as sacks go, Nassib is comparable.
But really, we just need to address his replacement in the draft. There are a few guys that will fall to us.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:21 pm
Shaq won’t accept a one year deal. He wants stability…and he deserves it.
We can’t put a tag on both him and Winston, because the new CBA, which will be agreed upon within a week, maybe by tonight, allows teams to only use one tag.
Smart money is to use that on Winston.
So we have no choice but to work out a multiyear deal with Shaq.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:25 pm
T REX Says
“5 years is instant?”
Don’t even pretend the previous 4 years were bad ones. Jameis led a top offense for multiple years. His picks were much lower than this year. So far as growth, we saw almost none until Arians took over.
That;s why Winston needs another year with Arians. And he will get it.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:26 pm
In a year, people will be singing the praises of Jameis Winston.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:30 pm
Guess the Colts should have given up on Peyton Manning because of picks his 1st contract…100 Int through 5yrs.
February 21st, 2020 at 1:36 pm
BA said he cant win without JW. His coaching staff sucks, players sucks, and without JW we cant win. Like what is supposed to say? Of course he could win with any qb. he better had said that and no it’s not an indictment on JW it actually has nothing to do with JW
February 21st, 2020 at 1:44 pm
Catcard202 … “There’s 52 other guys on that roster that have to do their jobs, in order for the team to win.”
Aahh yes ladies & gentlemen, we have a winner. Jameis isn’t the only thing keeping us from being a winner. All 53 men on the roster have to contribute for the Bucs to be a successful TEAM. And THAT’S the primary reason why GMs & HCs can’t make personnel decisions in isolation of OTHER personnel decisions. It ALL has to tie together. Just for fun, let’s call it TEAM-BUILDING. And oh yes, the Bucs really suck at it, and have for years.
The Bucs have the most salary Cap space (for all players under contract) of any NFL team … $85.0 mil. Whoopee, because that’s also pretty much irrelevant (salary Cap space for the Top-51 is what counts). Right now the Bucs have a grand total of 51 players signed (only 5 teams have FEWER players signed). IOW, we’re ‘winning’ the salary Cap race only because we’ve got fewer players under contract. And oh ya, quite a few players we do have under contract are the proverbial ‘camp meat’ who won’t make the team, but who are necessary for Training Camp.
But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. It’s the key positions/players we DON’T HAVE UNDER CONTRACT that’ll bite us in the ass eventually. THOSE are the high-cost positions … and the Bucs have a BUNCH (very probably more than almost all other teams), starting with our starting QB position. BIG BUCKS. Then moving on to FOUR DLINE POSITIONS … EACH BIG BUCKS. And oh ya, a #3 WR & a veteran Safety … again, EACH BIG BUCKS. Our $85 mil EXCESS (?) is anything but excess.
So yes it’s easy to say sign Winston for a mere $85 mil over 3 years, and sign Shaq & JPP & Suh & Nassib for another $45-$50 mil. Oh and let’s throw in adding Conklin for a mere $15 mil & oh ya, extending Godwin for another $18 mil or so. And surely we can squeeze Perriman & a veteran Safety in there just by doing a little manipulation via contracts’ restructuring.
Oh and that’s right, we have this little thingie called DEPTH that we’ve got to add because it takes 53 guys on a TEAM to WIN. No problem. By that point we’d ONLY be roughly $30-$50 mil in debt, so all we have to do is print money like the Feds do. Piece of cake! Ya right.
February 21st, 2020 at 2:18 pm
I can see the billboards now…
JAMEIS WINSTON
20/20
in 2020.
😉
February 21st, 2020 at 2:19 pm
DEF Rules…It’s pretty easy to lose in NFL…So, yeah..Pretty much any armchair JoeBucsFan could run an organization as well as 30% of the league & do it for a fraction of what most GM’s get paid to lose in the NFL.
February 21st, 2020 at 2:24 pm
Alan, a broken hand,, evans and Godwin out, an OC who refuses to utilize the right ends or knows how to scheme running backs open.
four field goals away from an 11- 5 record at which point nobody would give a crap about the int. AND he just had his vision corrected. Things can only go up it’s not worth cutting him not.
Continue to improve the defense and give him one more year
February 21st, 2020 at 2:34 pm
The Lasik thing still baffles me…Good God Man, AFTER Yr5???
IMO, That is just another indirect implication of a piss poor run organization & medical staff… Why the f didn’t this happen sooner??? Eye sight for a QB seems rather important to me…Not too mention they missed a HUGE merch marketing opportunity…Should have had JW3 sporting Eric Dickerson Goggle’s in yr-F-1.
February 21st, 2020 at 2:41 pm
an interesting take given how Arians is known to protect players in public, but demand accountability in the locker room. I am willing to bet there are a lot of player that Arians is looking to replace from accountability standpoint, that we don’t know of from the media. They talk about the accountability board, but no one has ever seen it outside the locker room.
Honestly, I think that Arians is in between a rock and a hard place. He likes to keep the QB ego built up, but had no way to hold Santa clause accountable. He would probably like to give it another go, but he has to keep his word on the accoutability deal or he will lose the team.
February 21st, 2020 at 2:51 pm
Guys it is DEFINITELY a 53 man Team sport and all should be judged accordingly.
However a First Overall Draft pick gets judged differently As He Should. “Most NFL Ready” “Highest football IQ in the Draft” “Immense Arm talent not seen in a while”
He will always be judged differently from the rest of the team because of his draft status. That is the way it is in Every Sport and every Business in the world.
TOP GUYS are supposed to overcome dificiencies as The Leader
February 21st, 2020 at 3:52 pm
BucEmUp … “four field goals away from an 11- 5 record at which point nobody would give a crap about the int.”
Another one of those ‘glass is half full or half empty’ positions. Could also say that the Bucs were 7 Pick-6s aways from a 11-5 record.
(P.S. I sorta kinda think that our DEFENSE ‘gives a crap about the INTs’ … they got charged with the points AND they had to clean up the messes)
February 21st, 2020 at 3:54 pm
BucEmUp … Oh and I should have added that MAYBE if a QB really has a ‘broken hand’ like you stated then MAYBE he shouldn’t have been playing because MAYBE he didn’t give the TEAM the best chance of winning. (As evidenced by the 2 losses and 8 turnovers in the last 2 games?).
February 21st, 2020 at 3:59 pm
SB … Did you really just tag Jameis as ‘The Leader’ or were you trying to make a point about what the #1 selection in the draft SHOULD BE?
February 21st, 2020 at 4:13 pm
Remember, In the NFL – #1 picks go to suck teams for a reason…The NFL isn’t like the NBA w/ a draft lottery system where 8-8 clubs have a 3% chance at getting the golden ticket…You either Tanked It to get the #1 or were just that terrible to begin with.
The QB is face of the franchise…But the organization / 52 other teammates are the difference between success & failure.
Tim Couch wasn’t a terrible QB, but the 1999 expansion Browns OL was a joke & allowed him to take a beating. (He did get them to the play-offs!)
David Carr wasn’t a terrible QB, but the Texans OL couldn’t keep him off his back & sacks/hits ruined his career.
Hell, Terry Bradshaw was TERRIBLE – worse than both of the above ever played- for what felt like forever – before flipping switch on his career & leading PIT to 4 SB wins…& he’s a career 1-1 TD to INT ratio HOF QB.
February 21st, 2020 at 4:14 pm
BucEmUp
If Jameis comes back I will want him to play well, but I am not delusional like the Jameis lovers.
He will do what he always does- make great plays, make stupid plays and Bucs will miss playoffs again- and the excuse makers will be ready with cherry picked stats and other players’ mistakes.
Give him a better RB, better RT, consistently good D, another year with Arians – it’s all hope based on nothing- he is who he is- Mr Entertainment who doesn’t win. – unless he has a Pro Bowl cast around him like he had at FSU.
February 21st, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Bonzai- And what did those JW led top offense do for our win/loss record?
I don’t completely disagree with retaining Jameis, but lets not tout meaningless stats.
He is who he is. If the Bucs brass are OK with that, then they better have a plan ‘B’ just in case. We’ve got 5 years that say he’s turnover-prone but talented. That’s not a resounding endorsement of a #1 pick.
February 21st, 2020 at 7:02 pm
Pewter… had interesting read on ROH for James Wilder..
I agree. As a Tampa native watching him was awesome. He was the whole offense at times…
I remember my Dad saying Wilder to the right, Wilder up the middle, wilder to the left…
He was a workhorse &’deserves the ROH… do the right thibg bucs
February 21st, 2020 at 9:45 pm
Draft Tua what a bunch of freaking idiots, do you understand how easy it is to look good at the college level when you have the best receivers in the nation lol and by the way he can’t stay healthy! These are the same clowns who was panning for Trash-iota SMDH!
February 22nd, 2020 at 2:58 am
Dare should not be on this team next year. He’s just not very good.
February 22nd, 2020 at 4:16 am
Agree Rod!!
February 22nd, 2020 at 11:37 am
So get Boston College’s 340 pound RB as your third down back who should be able to knock sackers on their Keesters and can block for a RB in short yardage or carry the ball for first downs or catch passes on third down. Bring 20-20 Jameis back in 2020 and see if he can just get back to his normal 15 turnovers a season in his second year in BA’s Offense. Trade off Howard for extra picks and get a good blocking TE to suit BA’s system. Bet the Patriots would make a high bid to get Howard. Get a OT with the first pick and sign the Titan’s Veteran RT. That will fix our Offensive Trench and resigning our DL in tact will fix our DL Trench. Let Perriman go and pick another third WR in the draft.