“He’s Just Gotta Calm Down”
February 2nd, 2020
Shaq Barrett fires some real talk at his quarterback
The new face of the Buccaneers defense, Shaq Barrett, shared frustration with Tampa Bay’s quarterback of the past five seasons on national radio.
America’s Quarterback might wince when he hears this.
Asked on CBS Sports Radio if there’s a fix for Jameis Winston’s inconsistency, Barrett let it fly.
“That’s like all on him, like he gotta, whatever it is in his (sounded like brain), like I just think, in my perspective, I think he always wants to make the big play,” Barrett said of Jameis. “He don’t want to live to play the next down; he want that play to be the game-changing play. And sometimes, receivers run the wrong routes, I did hear that on the sideline, but he just gotta calm down and like know that we can play another play. We can get a second attempt. We can pick it up on 3rd-and-10. Because he got the weapons, the receivers, and he’s a good quarterback so he can get it done.”
Shaq also was asked if the team is close to being a winner. He explained the Bucs matured a lot in a defense new to everyone and loaded with rookies and second-year players.
That defense will make the Bucs a “scary” team, Shaq said, “and if Jameis take care of his part, we’ll be super scary.”
The bottom line here is Shaq sees Jameis as a QB in need of significant improvement.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:01 am
Win despite Jameis. Same as they had to do at FSU.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:02 am
Fine tuning, not “significant improvement”.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:03 am
And sometimes, receivers run the wrong routes
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I said that multiple times but wtfdik and it’s probably more often than not. And it’s more like 3rd&18 Shaq, 3rd and 18.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:06 am
Reminded of when Koetter benched him, seems like that worked. But it also seems like a toned-down Winston means both less mistakes while coupled with less wins.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:09 am
After 5 NFL seasons, JayMiss is who he is; a turnover machine and NOT the face of this organization.
Can’t win regularly with a turnover machine. No way. Not worth $30+M either.
Time to move on. Select a bridge QB and draft the next franchise guy.
Peace, out.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:11 am
I think Shaq’s comments are constructive and right on! Jameis needs to hear this more often from his teammates. I wish we would have had that leadership for years…the truth helps.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:15 am
Wasn’t he the most NFL READY QB in 2015 ???
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:15 am
Shaq needs to stay on his lane and quit jumping offsides. In addition if these reporters were doing their job they should have said well you do know if you guys were just decent in the first half of the year you would have been in the playoffs.
See this is exactly why I said yesterday I think Jameis is done being here unless they overpay him to do so.
In his mind it’s probably going something like this. ” Ok Shaq you take somebody calmer and let’s see if they bail you out of the Rams game, Cardinals game, Colts game and even gave you a chance in the Giants, Saints and Seahawks games. Good luck brother and I look forward to playing you next year.”
Please find me one quote his entire career where Jameis put any blame on anyone other than himself?
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:16 am
@1sparkybuc
Eliminating 30 interceptions with 7 returned for TD’s is not fine tuning, it’s performing an exorcism.
All of his teammates know that he will never be able to take care of the ball. It’s not funny to them like it is to the national media. They work their butts off to win these games that are always going to have a fine line for error just to see this bafoon throw it away every week.
In years past there were legitimate excuses that you could give to him like poor defense and poor protection. This year, especially in the second half of the season, those excuses were basically eliminated and he did the worst job of protecting the ball in his career.
He is what he is, you will never eliminate the WTF moments, and that is precisely why he will never be an elite QB worth $30 million annually.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:17 am
Receivers run the wrong routes and the wind too, don’t forget the wind!
I’m happy a player was candid though, probably flexing that Glazer money muscle knowing he’s getting more guaranteed than Mr Entertainment America’s Quarterback Pro Bowl alternate Jameis.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:18 am
Somebody needs to remind anybody talking on this defense that the season started in September not November. Those games counted too, sacks numbers are great but so is not giving up 350 passing and 30 points each week.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:19 am
I think everyone on team deep down knows jameis is a good teammate and tries to lift everyone up .
However , its becoming clearer and clearer that players Are letting it slip out that his play on the field is part of the problem
Do they really think he can win the game with the ball in his hand at the end of a game. Do they really trust him to not lose the game ?
Time and time again a turnover has put defense in a bad posiiton
Clearly the defense hasnt been all around stellar until end of year ( rush defense good all year but to many young guys in secondary which took time to establish confidence. ). When he throws a pick do they put their heads down And say here we go again and again and again – 35 times (30 picks . 7 pick six. 5 fumbles lost). Most of any qb since entering the year by a mile . I think by 25-30 or some crazy number.
Godwin and Barret seem to be two of the nicest guys on the team and they dont seem to give jameis a ringing endorsement over the last few days . They say nice things but there always seems to be a “but”
Again , as a person they love him . Seems like a fun guy
As a player , do they really trust him ?
More importantly , do the coaches trust him?
I bet the coaches had their end of year interviews to find out
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:20 am
“Win despite Jameis. Same as they had to do at FSU.”
This is the dumbest comment yet from a Gator-Bucs fan.
FSU won “despite” Jameis? You mean the Heisman winning QB who threw the winning TD in the national championship game? Or the QB who led his offense as a redshirt frosh to become the highest scoring D1 NCAA offense of all time? His second year he threw picks, but he’s also the one who brought the team back to get the W in every game but one.
Look, I’m not sold on necessarily bringing Jameis back–if there’s a better QB out there (haven’t seen a realistic one yet–spare me the Brady clickbait) then go get him. But it’s stupid comments like this one that make Bucs fans sound delusional.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:21 am
Here comes Ndog blaming everyone except for his boy his man his idol Jameis Winston.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:21 am
So gotbbucs not having Evans, Godwin, Miller, a running game or a kicker had nothing to do with the last two games? Cause other than those two games Jameis was freaking awesome the second half of the season. Dude put you bias hat away it is showing.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:23 am
I love how Ndog literally has to call every one out with genuine opinions using facts to back them up and has to tell them they are wrong and they are stupid.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:24 am
Every legitimate quarterback in the history of the nfl has put a loss on himself
Gimme a break
Thats what they do whether its their fault or not
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:25 am
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
How many other teams players are saying this about a 5 year vet?
Only the Bucs.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:25 am
If you watch football and know the basics you see everyone made costly mistakes. Everyone including coaching. That’s why we keep hearing Bucs beat Bucs.
Shaq should say GAY needs to make those FG and we would be 9-7/10-6. Shaq needs to say I need to wait until the ball gets hiked.
Most penalized team and is jameis fault ?
Tampabuscsbro Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:21 am
Here comes Ndog blaming everyone except for his boy his man his idol Jameis Winston.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:33 am
Just only another reason I believe this guy needs to get paid like he wants by our franchise! He’s our main focus and should be this offseason. I love a player that don’t beat around the bush.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:37 am
ndog: BUWAHAHAHA! Shaq and Godwin KNOW more than you punk. They both said Jameis is broken and neither gave a ringing endorsement. I will help you pack your crap and move so you can continue stalking your wanna boyfriend. When Winston goes…so do you. Everyone should put you on blast. You are whining like a little girl in here daily. Grab some tissue and man up…punk.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:39 am
You can bet that the defensive players are very tired of Winston’s turnovers. But they have to be very careful what they say publicly about Jason Licht’s Chosen One Winston. Privately you can bet it’s very different
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:43 am
That not a bias hat…that’s a race-card!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:50 am
I’ve been saying it for awhile. Winston’s main problems are between his ears. Troubles properly reading defenses, impulsive decisions, not able to call audibles, staring down receivers. It’s been five seasons. I’m starting to doubt these issues are fixable…
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:52 am
Tampabuscsbro you know what they say about opinions, everyone has got one but rarely are they worth a sh!t. But FACTS cannot be refuted. Thats why I win these arguments cause people talk with their heart not their head and people completely ignore the REASONS why things happen as it is much easier to just blame one person/thing than look at and try to fix the real issues.
So yes there TOs but why is the question. Some were poor reads by the QB, some were poor routes, some were poor protection, some were situational where the defense got a great read due to us being in a predictable situation, some were experience/communication within a new offense, some were poor throws, some were poor hands, some were poor play calls. So as you can see there are quite a few factors thrown in there yet one person constantly gets blamed.
However there were also some great things that happened in the passing game as well. Great reads, great catches, great throws, some decent YAC from Godwin (and no one else), nicely designed plays, excellent execution, good pass protection, and tremendous effort. So again as you can see there are quite a few factors thrown in there yet everyone gets the credit accept one person who is said to benefit from all of this but had nothing to do with.
Now let me ask you a question does doing that seem accurate/right to you?
That my friend is why I defend the QB cause this above is the crap I see daily. So I say let him go but I better not see one person on this board say boo when he goes onto to greatness elsewhere while we are drafting a QB and starting overview in 3 years cause Brady, Rivers or Bridgewater couldn’t handle winning with no running game, average defense and no kicker
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:57 am
Winston isn’t going to greatness anywhere. You can’t win turning it over. Hello, McFly? All that typing could’ve been reduced to….WAAAHHHHHH…I love Jameis and I’m a punk!
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:57 am
Trex I’ve been here before you and will be here long after you and I go to each game and half for quite awhile. I put my money on this team so I can think whatever I want. Plus I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again I am not a tape recorder just playing back what other think like you. See I actually have a brain and an opinion of my own, I watch the games and see what I see as I am not waiting to hear others opinions before I make my own.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:58 am
NDOG – guess you missed the first 2/3 games our defense played against SF and Carolina. Move on.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:59 am
Ah good point Trex, oh wait you didn’t make a point as your probably just waiting for someone to tell you what to say. When you have a clue get back to me, ps I won’t be waiting as I don’t have that long.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:59 am
The receivers must of run the wrong routes when it hit the other team in the chest and they dropped it what 10 plus times this year as well?
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:00 am
Oh Patrick no I didn’t miss that Cam Newton had people open all over the field and he just sucked and could hit the broad side of a barn. NEXT member of the CLUELESS mob please step up!
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:00 am
Ndog
Please explain how the Defense lost the 49er game
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:02 am
I love it they’ve been reduced to ‘”well the should have more picks” line. Give it up bro, WEAK SAUCE.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:08 am
lol this is great.
I love seeing just how Ndog is going to seethe at any post that could paint Winston in a negative light.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:08 am
Alan they didn’t lose the 49ers game the offense did. The pass protection was spotty, Barber ran a horrible route that caused a pick 6, OJ had a horrible pick that bounced off hands for a pick. OJ fumbled a ball going into the redzone. On the last play Date got caught up on the screen, the line did basically nothing and Jameis threw to a spot without seeing it cleanly which should not be done. So again offensive execution blew that game.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:10 am
Dude needs to rub one out prior to kickoff or take some Valium
No
More
Excuses
Just play like a #1 pick in more games than you don’t
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:12 am
Tampabuscsbro I just hate injustice. Blame people that deserve to be blamed, do it all day, but I will not accept people placing blame inaccurately. For instance blame Jameis for the Houston game as that was a very poor game but the 49er game was a number of players but as you can see above the blame is placed on him and it’s just garbage.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:16 am
Ndog u got excuses for 5 years ?????????
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:17 am
Every talking about this year this guy has a history of picks
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:17 am
The N in Ndog stands for Nuthugger.
Slurp, slurp, slurp.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:21 am
Ndog-
I agree with your 49ers game assessment, except you left out a couple of Jameis bonehead plays.
I would say the Defense lost 3 games, Jameis lost 3 games, Gay lost 2 games and 1 game the other team was just better.
My main thoughts about Jameis is that he’s not good enough to command a $30 million + contract and carry a team to wins- he needs too much help.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:23 am
Winston just to “mature” or grow up, and he will calm down a bit and live to play the next down. He just turned 26 last month and some take longer than others to “grow up.”
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:28 am
Well said Shaq…has always been Jameis’s problem. His job is to move the chains, manage the clock, and score…big play, small play, grind them out, whatever it takes. It isn’t to make the “big play”. In fact, that often does little to give the D a rest. He has talent..but seems to have a complete misunderstanding about the job… Jameis..it isn’t just about making four or five big throws a game. Frankly, I think that lack of understanding gets him into about 80% of the problems he has.i=
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:29 am
Too many people have called Jameis the Anointed one. Then they let the interceptions slide by until they didn’t matter any more. Now we get to see the culmination of that.
I don’t think Jameis even cares if he throws away the game, it is all about yardage and touchdowns. If we break from him, my fondest hope, we need to go all the way and find a game manager who throws five or six interceptions a year, otherwise he will be anointed as the second coming.
Though Love has a lot of upside, I don’t think he would thrive here.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:32 am
“If we can win with him, we can definitely win with another”
“He’s not going anywhere”
Two quotes about two different players lol one will be here one won’t (unless he plays on a very team friendly deal)
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:38 am
Craig Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:29 am
Too many people have called Jameis the Anointed one. Then they let the interceptions slide by until they didn’t matter any more. Now we get to see the culmination of that.
I don’t think Jameis even cares if he throws away the game, it is all about yardage and touchdowns. If we break from him, my fondest hope, we need to go all the way and find a game manager who throws five or six interceptions a year, otherwise he will be anointed as the second coming.
Though Love has a lot of upside, I don’t think he would thrive here.
See posts like this ⬆️ are exactly why I show up everyday and feel the need to defend our QB. Everything said above is completely unfounded and complete BS but it’s just ok for him to post it. Well not on my watch.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:40 am
Sounds like Shaq will be here next year.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:40 am
NDOG you watch the Games??
Do you see the throws behind the receivers? Why we don’t have the YAC numbers
Do you see the Overthrown / Underthrown balls (some those awesome WR catch)
Do you see JAMIES STARE DOWN Receivers that’s why he is throwing more INTs
Do you see the Wobbling Ducks he throws (my grandma can pick)
Sooo Facts You speak Facts:
Fact Jamies has had 5 years and the same problems he had in college continue
Fact Jamies was worse this year
Fact the Bucs threw for more yards and less INTs last year with a Backup in for part of season
FACTS
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:44 am
Ndog u got excuses for 5 years ????????????????????
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:48 am
JP_09 Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:32 am
“If we can win with him, we can definitely win with another”
More lies, coach Arains never said the above. This is simply a flat out lie.
He said “We can win with him, we can definitely win with another” not “If”. What he is supposed to say, he is the only QB in the world we can win with?
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:49 am
oh dam…joe is trying to set sheet off right here !
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:54 am
Winston has a low football IQ yea I said it talent only takes u so far
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:54 am
Move on
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:56 am
Man, Shaq’s comments pretty much obliterate the importance of yards as a stat.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:57 am
what about the fact that if shaq down plays jameis, it can convert to a little less moola for jaboo…
thus a we tad bit more for shaq…
a wee tad of this type money buys multiple bentleys and sheet 🙂
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:58 am
next up jaboo is gonna say shaq is the only linebacker in the nfl with a little belly
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:59 am
We had the number 6 WR in the NFL in YAC in Godwin, so theres that for your accuracy. The reason it has been so bad in previous years is because DJax was a punk and Evans usually just drops to the ground after catching the ball. BTW you would know that if you watched the games. There were above 5 great catches this year the rest were pretty much perfect throws so that is just madeup crap like always. All I know is in college he lost one game sooooo the problems he has now are the same he’s had since day one in this league and that is no running game, no defense, no kicker. You want to argue those points as well there tough guy, cause I’m pretty sure you’re going to lose just like this one? You LOSE GOOD DAY SIR!
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:02 pm
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February 2nd, 2020 at 12:03 pm
113 TD–100 picks
121 TD–88 picks
The top number is the first five seasons of Peyton Manning’s career.
The bottom is, of course, Jameis Winston’s first five years.
Guess that means that most of these “brilliant” joebucs posters would have been in favor of running Peyton Manning out of town had he been unlucky enough to play in front of this fan base– AKA The Den of Dullards!
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:12 pm
Yeah NDOG that goal-line stand against Carolina didn’t help either? Our offense basically did nothing against SF or Carolina. The reason we were in either was because of our DEFENSE!
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:20 pm
If JW hasn’t done it in 5 seasons (playoffs), what makes you believe he will do it in season 6? I wish it had worked out.
Build the team in this draft, get Bridgewater or Dalton and go all in on a QB in 2021.
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:20 pm
Jameis Haters fail to mention that up until the second half of this past season , the previous 4 1/2 seasons of his nfl career included inheriting the responsibility of matching the points given up by the Bucs league worst secondary in yards allowed, points allowed and completion percentage allowed.You also left out every missed field goal and the absence of even an average running game. Its fair to blame jameis for his interceptions, but its idiotic to assign him all the blame for the losing record when the entire team has been crap around him. This team was three missed field goals away from being 9-7 WITH the bad run game and horrible first half defense. A clean played season would have been 10-6 or 11-5 WITH his 30 ints. They fail to identify any of tge other teams issues because you along with so many others are so obsessed with getting rid of Jameis. It has nothing to do with his ints, its just hating because of his allegations and crab legs period. If this guy ends up with the Titans next season he will be playing a game in Tampa next February. Stop letting your hatred blind you from all of the positives.
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:31 pm
No Patrick we were in the game because Cam Newton was horrible. Now it’s time to ask do you watch the games?
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:34 pm
BucEmUp they simply don’t understand the game sir.
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:34 pm
Bucs Guy–
Read what I wrote and you tell me. Manning blew up in year six.
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:36 pm
NDOG
You realize who you sound like and maybe that’s fine with you. But YOU and only YOU can make PERFECT posts. And so to remain nice I’ll just have to go bwwwahhaaaa. You do not get to claim you are PERFECT…unless you think you are GOD or the President! Just sayin’.
Meanwhile YOUR posts prove JW is NOT the “force multiplier” you and he thinks he is. He cannot carry Mahomes jock and I could quickly add another dozen QB’s who can survive their team’s weaknesses. To address your lame excuses about ME and Godwin missing..no running game…no OL…Final two games with a winning record on the line…both games at home and how did our “Money” QB perform?
VS Houston ROJO 14 carries 77 yards 5.5 YPC caught 3 passes another 32 yards or 109 total yards from the RB
Perriman 5 catches 134 yards and a TD.
Against Atlanta..running game? ROJO 11 carries 106 yards 9.64 YPC
ROJO added 10 more yards catching both passes tossed to him 116 total yds.
Perriman 5 catches 134 yards 26.8 Avg per catch and one TD.
So JW with 116 yards from ROJO…134 yards from Perriman and JW’s outstanding offense put up ZERO points in the second half. Oh but I forgot let’s blame the rookie kicker because the “franchise QB” can’t score a single TD…and shats his pants with the ball in his hands in OT.
FINAL TWO GAMES…a chance for a winning record and “Blameless” CHOKED like a dog on a big chunk of steak!
And yet Alibi Ike comes here with wait for it…..here it comes…MORE EXCUSES!
JW is NOT a “force multiplier”. He not only cannot overcome any team weaknesses he ADDS to them by spotting the opposition more than 7 points a game.
JW may blow up next year…if he’s with us I hope so…but not until he and his posse stop making excuses and not until JW gets it…he’s not a generational talent. He has a strong arm…a cement head…and BELIEVES he’s the man.
That’s what Shaq is referring to!
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:44 pm
Wish Barrett had told blameless that before all his so called “hasseles”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would tell the sheep, to raise their standards, but I deal in truth and “reality”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:45 pm
“IF” yes. A very scary team.
February 2nd, 2020 at 12:56 pm
I love this ⬇️
JW is NOT a “force multiplier”. He not only cannot overcome any team weaknesses he ADDS to them by spotting the opposition more than 7 points a game.
You mean he cannot overcome every part of the team besides the one he is in charge of being HORRIBLE? Oh so sorry that we don’t have a QB where the rest of the team is irrelevant cause he is so great. Bro do you here yourself?
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:00 pm
“ Win despite Jameis.”
Yea cause that defense has been sooooo dominant the last 5 years.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:02 pm
Jameis threw a ton of picks this season…Most of them on him, some on the receivers, tipped passes, or whatever the crazy circumstance seemed to be; we saw it all this year…
My thing with this team thats really frustrating as a fan is even when Jameis plays a solid game we still find a way to lose… Either the zebras steal it from us with a bad call or 2, or the defense has a bad day, or there’s and untimely drop or fumble by a receiver or RB, or the kicker misses 2 or 3 field goals, etc, etc, etc…
You can’t put all of the losing on Winston because of all of the factors that goes into a lose; Football is the ultimate team sport…That being said, I do agree with Shaqs statement that Winston needs to calm down…Alot of his bonehead moments imho seem to happen when he’s trying to do to much…
It’s a nice feeling as a QB to know that you can depend on your running game to keep you in good down and distance situations, it’s comforting to know that you have a stout defense that can get consistent stops when the offense isn’t clicking, it’s great to have a kicker you know can nail a FG to put points on the board when a drive stalls…Unfortunately Jameis has never had any of those comforts since he arrived in Tampa…Hence to reason imo for the hero ball/no riskit no biscuit mentality…
He was thrown into to fire day one; 5 years later we’re questioning his abilities because our GM still has not put a complete team around him; although I must say that imo this past seasons roster is the best team we’ve had since Winstons been here…
Personally, Id like to see what Winston could do with a Top 10 defense, a Top 10 rushing attack, and a cold-blooded kicker…Sadly he may never find those luxuries here in Tampa Bay…
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:10 pm
NPUPPY, the exact quote is: “With another quarterback? Oh yeah. If we can win with this one, we can definitely win with another one, too,” Arians said, per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:11 pm
Exactly OneBuc55.
Whether people want to admit it or not…..Jameis has been dealt a bad hand by being drafted here with 5 years of a sorry defense, kicker issues, 0 running game, bad coaches until now.
I want to see Jameis work with a good defense for a full season but unfortunately I’m not sure we will get to see that.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:11 pm
Joe,
How did you convey the meaning of what Shaq Barrette said to this: The bottom line here is Shaq sees Jameis as a QB in need of significant improvement.
Reading what your participants write, it is obvious that the vast majority is… should we say less than intelligent, but an honest journalist would not take advantage of the defect.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:21 pm
One thing NPUPPY fails to acknowledge is the fact Winstons turnovers alone led to 121 points scored by the other team. 2 pick six’s in the niners game lost it for them. A snap going off of his unsuspecting hands and int within his 20 yard line and ran back to their 5 in the titans game led to 2 really short field tds. He keeps bringing up the colts game but does he remember he had 1 pick 6 there along with 3 turnovers all together? Do I need to bring up the Texans game? The second saints game, Winston int at bucs 16 yard line leads to td. Winston int at saints 43, can’t even try for a fg. Winston, PICK 6! Winston, int at saints 1 yard line. Bucs lose, 34-17. Of course the defense looks bad on paper. But a pick 6 and int within their own 16 yard line makes that defense look worse than what they are. Take winstons 2 turnovers away that caused 14 points, saints are at 20 points total. Add another td instead of a Winston int at the saints 1 yard line, Bucs win.
But NPUPPY won’t mention the details like that… he’s busy going to the games and we’re all idiots.
Do I need to keep going, NPUPPY? Do I need to bring up the Carolina or falcons week 17 games? I can break those down for you too!
DONT FORGET NPUPPY, 121 points were scored off of Winston turnovers!!!! 121!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:24 pm
Bucsfan951 Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:10 pm
NPUPPY, the exact quote is: “With another quarterback? Oh yeah. If we can win with this one, we can definitely win with another one, too,” Arians said, per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times.
He was missed quoted he never said If. Again you are just believing the lies you were told. Go listen to the comments for yourself.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Yes we finally agree 951 you are an idiot. And you prove it daily. In fact you might be the biggest IDIOT of them all. So see you finally accomplished something, good for you
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:35 pm
Bucsfan951 Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:10 pm
NPUPPY, the exact quote is: “With another quarterback? Oh yeah. If we can win with this one, we can definitely win with another one, too,” Arians said, per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times.
Even that is not what Bruce Arians said. Not trying to knock you, but what Rick Stroud wrote is propaganda; Stroud used words from Arians’ statement to convey a negative opinion of Jameis. The meaning of what Bruce Arians said is the Bucs can win with a quarterback because they will have a defense. Bruce does not believe they can win with another quarterback without a defense.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:39 pm
Jameis Winston in 2019: 33 TDs, 30 INTs (NFL Record 7 Pick 6’s), 9 FUM = 39 Total Turnovers.
Highest total turnovers by any other TEAM in NFL in 2019 = 35
For reference = the total number of TEAMS with 39 or more turnovers in a season since 2006 = 10 (some rarified company to be in here)
1. 2017 Cleveland Browns = 41
2. 2013 NY Giants = 44
3. 2011 Bucs = 40
4. 2010 NY Giants = 42
5. 2010 Buffalo Bills = 39
6. 2009 Detroit Lions = 41
7. 2007 Ravens = 40
8. 2006 Raiders = 46
9. 2006 Browns = 42
10. 2006 Lions = 39
Point is this – is it all Jameis fault? No, of course not, it is the ultimate team sport so there are always contributing factors. However, when you look at it totality, 32 other teams over 14 seasons have managed not to have as many turnovers as he had all by himself in one season. Does he have talent, absolutely, but what good is all of that talent if he can’t harness it and stop hurting this team. I would also argue that while not all of his pics are his fault, neither are all of the TDs and yards. Having Evans & Godwin there to bail him out of terrible throws or preventing more INTs is also part of the equation. If you are going to look at it as a team contribution, also have to look at how worse it could have been if he didn’t have the receivers he has at his disposal. Almost every other quarterback in history has managed to find a way to not throw 30 pics even with wrong routes being run, the wind, the angry football gods laughing at our uniforms or whatever other reason we can come up with to excuse his play. At the end of the day, he is the QB, and the QB takes too much of the blame for wins / losses, and gets too much of the credit for the same. Welcome to the big leagues, put on your big boy pants if you are going to play QB in the NFL. I hope he improves, but I am doubtful at this point.
February 2nd, 2020 at 1:49 pm
Thanks for this blog and Shaq’s words.
It does not mean he thinks Jameis is incapable IMO. But it does appear that he is saying that Jameis is making too many mistakes.
That seems to be the same opinion as many posters on this site from a guy who is on the team with him.
Not that Godwin said the exact same thing this week; Yet, Godwin did say that he is glad it was not his decision on whether to keep Jameis or not.
Probably our two most valuable players on the Buc’s in 2019:
Godwin and Barrett – Giving us fair perspective.
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:06 pm
“Almost every other quarterback in history has managed to find a way to not throw 30 pics”
Agree with some of your points BucsfaninDallas but there’s also a ton of QB in the NFL who are incapable of throwing for 30 tds and 5,000 yards.
The question comes down to……do you value interceptions over Winstons elite level production?
In my opinion, I believe that with the way this offense was able to preform (#3 in scoring) he earned another year in my book and you bring him back in hopes the INT problem gets fixed.
My problem with bringing in another QB this upcoming season is that Year 1 with BAs offense is traditionally not pretty because this offense is not a plug and play scheme for a lot of QBs and given the free agency and draft options (or lack there of) at QB this year, I don’t think it will work with another guy trying to come in and learn BAs system in a 6 month span.
Not saying JW has to be in our long term plans right now but Winston a 1 year prove it deal and he’ll have an entire offseason with an alleged Quarterback guru to get better.
I believe that Winston is a top 15-20 tier QB right now but he has the highest breakout potential if he can get 1 thing fixed.
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:11 pm
Without knowing the exact play called NO one can evaluate whether or not a ball was under, over, or thrown behind the WR besides the Bucs staff.
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:13 pm
I would to see all these throws that Godwin and Evans bailed Jameis out on? I can think of one when Godwin caught a low ball vs the Saints and took it to the house. I literally cannot think of another one this year from those two. Perriman also had one vs Seattle but again we have a poster just putting up crap that simply isn’t true. Go watch the tape there are plenty of them out there please point out these throws that Jameis needed to bailed out on this year. It simply isn’t true.
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:19 pm
TBBucsFan – I agree. His production (yards and TDs) are the reason I am not all on board with jettisoning him. I think he earned a second year in the system. I don’t care about the money (Franchise, Transition, New Contract, whatever). The prices they get paid doesn’t really impact me, it is just a part of the game (what we have to pay for a starting QB). Unless the other QB is TB12, I agree with him being retained next year, and if we find another QB in the draft, take him to groom and compete. If Winston excels, we can use that QB as trade chip later down the road, and have him as insurance should JW falter. My point was really that JW has shown elite ability in spurts, and career backup ability in spurts. At the same time, it is 5 years in (I will also agree he hasn’t had a strong supporting cast), and I would prefer to see the arrow pointed up in terms of controlling the turnovers, while increasing yardage and TDs. He’s 2 for 3 in my book. I really do hope he pulls it all together, because if he does, we are WINNING! Which is all I really care about for this team. How do we get back to a winning culture here. If JW is part of that, great. If not, great! Just win some games…
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:20 pm
@Gotbbucs … “All of his teammates know that he will never be able to take care of the ball. It’s not funny to them like it is to the national media.”
I agree that it’s ‘not funny to them’ Gotbbucs, since all of them make their living playing football & they all want to get in the playoffs. BUT … can’t agree with the 1st part. None of Jameis’ teammates has ever even implied that, much less said it.
Compare Jameis’ performances in 2016 and 2019. He played the full 16 games in BOTH seasons. Bucs went 9-7 in 2016 and 7-9 in 2019. There are a lot of similarities between the 2 years, but several key differences.
In 2016 Jameis had a meh running game (#22 with 1,616 rushing yards) and a mid-tier defense (#18 giving up 369 points). Bucs scored 354 points in 2016, of which the defense contributed 28 points. Jameis completed 345-of-567 passing attempts (60.8%) for 4,090 passing yards and 28 TDs against 18 INTs (3.2%). BUT … only ONE of those 18 INTs was a Pick-6.
In 2019 Jameis also had a meh running game (#24 with 1,521 rushing yards) and a meh defense overall (#29 giving up 449 points). Bucs scored 458 points in 2019, of which the defense contributed 42 points. Jameis completed 380-of-626 passing attempts (60.7%) for 5,109 passing yards and 33 TDs against 30 INTs (4.8%). BUT … SEVEN of his 30 INTs were Pick-6’s. That’s SIX more Pick-6’s than in 2016 and 12 more INTs.
So in both years the Bucs’ running game & defense performed roughly the same (defense was good both years in about half the season). Jameis threw for the same completion percentage (60.8%) both seasons, and for a lot of TDs (28 vs 33). Yet his giveaways went out of sight this past year. The difference in the number of INTs … 18 in 2016 versus 30 in 2019 … and in the number of Pick-6’s … 1 in 2016 versus 7 in 2019 … is startling.
So did Jameis deteriorate that much between his 2nd year & his 5th year? Or was there something else at play? Like a new system with different demands on the QB? MAYBE he & BA & Byron & Clyde & Tom will sort it out if he returns for a 2nd year in this system. Would hate to see the Bucs 2020 season depend solely on that one MAYBE however. Sure would be nice to have a quality veteran QB waiting in the wings, just in case.
February 2nd, 2020 at 2:34 pm
If I’m Winston I’m dumping the California vacation trips with fake QB guru George Whitfield and his useless sand beach drills and I’m spending the entire off-season with real QB coach Bruce Arians and living at OneBucPlace……. that’s is if he gets resigned of course.
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:00 pm
NPUPPY SAYS: Yes we finally agree 951 you are an idiot. And you prove it daily. In fact you might be the biggest IDIOT of them all. So see you finally accomplished something, good for you
Is it because I challenge everything you say and back it up with stats? I always back it up with stats and when I do, you magically stop your comments on that story. Happens more than what most might think. So can you explain to me how in the games referenced above, winstons play wasn’t a major reason why they lost? You can’t deny any of the facts made above as false and if you do, you’re a Winston fanboy.
NPUPPY!!! EXPLAIN THE 121 SCORED OFF OF WINSTON TURNOVERS!!! 7.5 POINTS PER GAME AND HOWEVER MANY MORE POINTS THAT COULDVE BEEN SCORED BY THE OFFENSE!!! 7 PICK 6’S!!! HOW MANY INTS IN THEIR FIRST DRIVES OF THE FIRST QUARTER?!!! STOP BEING BLIND TO THE FACT/NUMBERS!!!!
Lost NPUPPY!!! Last seen chasing a black Mercedes leaving One Buc with a license plate that reads “JWPICK6” if found, plz let me know immediately!!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:03 pm
NPUPPY you must not watch bucs games. I can think of a couple alone in the falcons game. YouTube “Chris Godwin impossible td catch”. Geez, you claim to watch the games but have a memory as long as your… well, we will just say it’s very short!
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Tbbucs3
Players and coaches of the team are allowed only limited contact in the off season as per the rules implemented by the league and players union. That is why many players hire outside people to coach them in the off season. I do agree maybe it is time for Winston to try another QB coach this offseason.
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Bring me Philip Rivers on a two year
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:30 pm
NDog =NTool
Haha. He lost one game in college but had no problems with throwing OBVIOUSLY you listen to no experts BECAUSE that was the talk in college was HIS turnovers
Jamies stats in college 2013 – 40 TD / 10 INT
2014 – 25 TD / 18 INT
Www. Sports-reference.com
So Turnovers increased which was a question by Scouts when he hit the draft
You said a bad Defense with a #1 ranking for run defense???
AND the sack leader for the NFL
WOW MR FACT BOY AKA Winston
You Lose I guess
Just stuck with opinion and playing with your Winston Doll
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:34 pm
BUT I now want the Bucs to keep this QB
Simple so I Can show you what a TOOL you are
Bet you started driving for Uber hoping Winston would grab you Hahah
Bet if he does leave so will you
You probably think GMC WAS GOOD TOO. HAHAH. COACH KILLA
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:36 pm
puppypunk getting thrashed on here again. Brah, do you know more than shaq or godwin? No. You do not. You’re nobody. And Winston still sucks.
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:38 pm
@ Defense Rules
I overexagerated obviously, but how tickled must these defensive players be to see this many interceptions inside the 50 forcing them to defend a short field? It’s got to be maddening.
Winston is what he is. I’ll admit that this year was probably an aberration, it would be hard to be this bad again with turning the ball over. He’s more than likely always going to be a 15-18 interceptions per year QB, which is liveable if he throws for 4800 yards and 35-40 TD’s every year.
I’m not interested at finding out if he can consistently do that, not at the franchise crippling salary that he wants and to find out that he’s still hot garbage.
@Big Hog
I don’t care if Winston is white, black, brown, yellow, or purple. Never once have I brought up a race related argument on any subject on this site. By your logic here, the Winston supporters must all be black and the people who want to move on from Winston must all be white.
The race issue is your own. I look at professional athletes the same way i look at anybody in life. You’re either a productive human being or you’re a worthless piece of trash, and some are caught somewhere in the middle, regardless of race or religion. That’s the last time I want to defend that.
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:39 pm
if you want Winston back for another year you are a Winston knob gobbler. Dude is a loser. He’s been the same turnover machine since college. That’s not changing. So, we aren’t ever going to win anything under Winston. Ever. EVery year he sucks games 1-8 then has a mini run after we are eliminated and the Winston knob gobblers claim he turned some imaginary corner. Then he’s jameis again. How many winning streaks has he had in the first half of the season? None. He sucks out loud and yards don’t mean jack except to the losers. LOSERS. Time to start fixing this team and the 1st thing is dump that turnover machine. If all he ate was W’s, he’d starve to death. Losers.
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:51 pm
hypocite dog
You just admitted jameis lost the texans game for bucs
You called me out for making that comment a few months ago …and made some to the effect its a team sport and no one player loses a game
😂
Diarrhea from the mouth once again
February 2nd, 2020 at 3:57 pm
buc53
I don’t care what you think. The defense had to overcome his constant turnovers just like they do here.. And I did not go to UF. So before you open your yap about me on a personal attack you might want to know what you’re talking about first.
February 2nd, 2020 at 4:08 pm
Shaq is in his lane and about to get a big fat contract. He actually broke a record of a hall of famer while people keep defending winston saying he holds a lot of josh freeman records lol
I’ve never heard more excuses for a guy who touches the ball on every series in the last 5 years than I have for him. Rodgers literally has one receiver and a rookie coach. Winston threw more than 2nd year quarterback for cleveland with a rookie first time head coach. Kyler Murray has one reciever a worse defense and still is better than winston.
You can go through every quarterback interception in the league and I’m sure receivers for them all ran wrong routes or went deep enough or whatever.
No one in the NFL made more dumb interceptions than Winston who seems more often than not to have already determined he will throw it to a certain receiver which is one reason for picks, after 5 years still staring down receivers and goes through progression to slowly.
You cant get paid like one of the highest QBs based off one season, last year he got benched for meltdowns now he wants to be overpaid. It’s time to draft a rookie invest in defense and a big time running back, let someone else overpay this time
February 2nd, 2020 at 4:10 pm
“We can win with this one, we can definitely win with another one”
I stand corrected… still not a ringing endorsement for our “franchise” qb.
February 2nd, 2020 at 4:27 pm
Bucsfan951 Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 4:10 pm
“We can win with this one, we can definitely win with another one”
I stand corrected… still not a ringing endorsement for our “franchise” qb.
You are still wrong as to what Arians said. You cannot take words or clauses from a sentence and quote someone. That is not how the English language works. North Americans should learn how to speak English.
February 2nd, 2020 at 4:34 pm
Mirror: mind to enlighten me on what was exactly said?
February 2nd, 2020 at 5:33 pm
“Win despite Jameis. Same as they had to do at FSU.”
This is the dumbest comment yet from a Gator-Bucs fan.
Yep, like a Gator would know good QB play.
February 2nd, 2020 at 6:04 pm
newbuc
Guess your reading comprehension is pretty low. Like I said to buc53
stupid I did not go to UF. As a mater of fact I did not attend college in the State of Florida.
February 2nd, 2020 at 6:12 pm
By the way . I live in Tallahassee now. These FSU homers are so brainwashed that the local TV stations sports show only FSU news. Other NFL, NBA. Or sports does not exist. Nothing National. Now that is sad!
February 2nd, 2020 at 6:22 pm
Stats are for losers except for ONE. W-L. When a QB retires such as Manning nobody goes back and looks at anything except his W-L and maybe his post season awards.
So let’s see if you can figure out who these two players might be by comparing their IMPORTANT stat…you’ll obviously recognize JW from all the losing.
3-13…13-3…10-6…6-10…10-6 3 PLAYOFFS AND 3 PRO BOWLS
6-10….9-7….3-10…3-6…..7-9 ZERO PLAYOFFS 1 PRO BOWL ALTERNATE
Do you guys really wish to compare these players. One by definition is a winner the other is a loser!
Can we stop with Peyton Manning comparisons puhleeze I watched Peyton play from UT on through the NFL…I’ve watched Jameis Winston for five years.
Jameis Winston is NO Peyton Manning who will be a first vote HOFers.
JW would have to go 15-1 next year just to reach .500 after six years.
He would have to win 11 games for the next three years in a row to get to .500!
Nine years to get to .500.
February 2nd, 2020 at 6:41 pm
gotbucs:: No human is a piece of trash….but I know where that kind of mental imprint on the brain comes from. You claim to have no problem with race ….but can call people pieces of sh*t with ease …man you’re fooling only yourself!! GO BUCS KEEP GRINDING!!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 7:22 pm
NDog the only Clown in the Clown show!
February 2nd, 2020 at 8:04 pm
”Stats are for losers except for ONE. W-L.“
Stpete, That is such an elementary way to put things. I have two words for you…..
D
Fence!!!!!!
February 2nd, 2020 at 8:19 pm
Tbbucs
So are you saying Indy had a top ten defense? I’m too lazy to do all that googling.
Are you suggesting 13-3 was solely because of the Colts D?
Perhaps Mannings 3 pro bowls in the first five years were also because of his defense?
My point remains…not to low rent JW simply to say show a little respect. Comparing JW to Manning is absurd.
February 2nd, 2020 at 8:32 pm
When your teammates are saying publicly, that you are not calm and have no composure on the field as a 5th year starter and combine that with a record setting year in INTs and pick 6s then the writing is on the FA wall. 5000 yards and under 8 wins is not a QB combo to generate wins. Winston is supposedly asking for top 10 starter money when he is not in that group of QBs. Bruce is looking heavily at the free agents for good reason. I believe BA thinks this group of men are closer than their record and need a better game manager to bring them into the playoffs.
February 2nd, 2020 at 8:46 pm
“On him… to calm his (sounds like brain)” ain’t worth a $30M multi-year deal… maybe a one year $27M tag… maybe. I hope not. #TurnThePage or, for you homers, #PleazFreeJaboo
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:26 pm
stpetebucsfan Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 8:19 pm
Tbbucs
So are you saying Indy had a top ten defense? I’m too lazy to do all that googling.
Are you suggesting 13-3 was solely because of the Colts D?
Perhaps Mannings 3 pro bowls in the first five years were also because of his defense?
My point remains…not to low rent JW simply to say show a little respect. Comparing JW to Manning is absurd.
You do not show so much ignorance. The numbers are not lying to you as one of the joes would have you to believe. How stupid do you have to be. The Bucs could have a had lot going for them if they had embraced Jameis. Now, they need to let him go. San Francisco would have won if they had Jameis.
February 2nd, 2020 at 10:52 pm
What a dumb ass statement. Tampa Bay committed to jameis and he chose to act a fool and get suspended. And his play has not been good enough. Talk about a dumb ass narrative. Putting one player before the team is laughable.
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:41 pm
Still waiting mirror
February 3rd, 2020 at 4:05 am
Bucsfan951 Says:
February 2nd, 2020 at 11:41 pm
Still waiting mirror
You do not have to wait; the statement is published. I already told you in a previous response. … because we will have a defense. The Bucs can win with another quarterback because they will have a defense is what Arians said.
February 3rd, 2020 at 4:08 am
Dumb ass is when you cannot follow salient facts in a conversation.
February 3rd, 2020 at 5:48 am
Mirror, get real. No facts, just you giving out a free passant excusing dumb asserey by a player.
February 3rd, 2020 at 5:56 am
Mirror,
How can you possibly put the transgressions and shortcomings of one player before an entire franchise? When does Jameis expected to improve/win/take care of the football? It can’t always be somebody else’s fault and that is why I want to start over.
February 3rd, 2020 at 6:11 am
People got their drawers all in a bunch because Shaq opines on his QB?! There is nothing false or exaggerated about what Shaq said. If you watch the games, you know this to be true.
February 3rd, 2020 at 8:08 am
Mirror: so a quarterback whisper who was brought in here to fix Winston is going to win with any qb because he’s gonna build a strong defense?… are you even registering what is being said?
Do you really think the glazers brought Arians in here to build the nfl’s strongest decrease. GET REAL MY MAN!!! You really believe in that statement by Ariana, you sir, are the dumb ass.
Mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the biggest dumb ass of them all?…
It’s you for thinking a qb whisper of a head coach is gonna build a defense where they can plug in an average qb and win it all.
Might want to think of the whole picture before typing out dumb ass to people.
February 3rd, 2020 at 11:09 am
SteveK, Bucsfan951: You have enough information to think that you are right, but not enough to know that you are wrong. (Neil deGrasse Tyson) Whether you two dumb asses believe it or not, it is what Arians said. Arians also so said that he would restore the Bucs defense. Hence, Todd Bowles. I am with you; I want the Buccaneers to move on. I want better from Jameis. You two idiots that cannot follow simple details do not deserve Jameis. Some how you to idiots seem to believe that the world will be over for Jameis if he is not with the Bucs. The defense did not do enough to win. Next year will be a whole new year with different challenges that the defense has to overcome. In short the Bucs will be losers again next year! Mirror mirror on the wall you two dummies looked in where you fall.
February 3rd, 2020 at 12:44 pm
When did I say “the world will be over for jameis if he is not with the Bucs?” See, that’s you trying to connect dots that aren’t there.
“That is not how the English language works. North Americans should learn how to speak English.”
Yes, the defense didn’t do enough to win but all of the offensive turnovers did. It help the situation as well! When there are many many many turnovers within the Bucs own 30 yard line, it really screws over the defense.
From what it sounds like and correct me if I’m wrong, it sounds as if the entire next season rides on Todd Bowles and how his defense performs.
This is where the great debate happens. Some people feel as if Winston and the offense did a great job and the defense was the hold up from making the playoffs.
Others feel like that while the offense did put up big numbers, they did their defense no help with all of the turnovers and especially those turnovers within bucs territory.
I’m sorry but Winston (in my eyes) cannot get a pass on all of those ints. I don’t care if he puts up 5k yards or not. When you give the ball away like he did, that’s a clear cut recipe for losses. 7 pick 6’s is just ridiculous. 121 points off of Winston turnovers, is ridiculous!
February 3rd, 2020 at 1:54 pm
Mirror,
Go back to the other post and clarify where you said Jameis Winston would win 15 SBs in a row with the 49ers, making him 5x the QB of Joe Montana.
You are a clown 🤡
Enjoy the bandwagon and new fan base when Jameis is let go.
February 5th, 2020 at 12:00 pm
Jameis need receivers who can get separation from the defenders, so jameis don’t have to choke back on his passes because no one is open, I wonder if keyshawn Johnson still around, not a fast receiver, but knew how to get open