Sure … for a one year incentive laden deal with an option for 2021. Around the $25 million range. Or franchise tag him, but I would rather use that on Shaq for Sacks.
No. We may gamble and end up ina worse situation, it’s always a possibility, but no reason to keep a lame duck around if he’s not winning the guy that’s going to win you a super bowl. Better to have a clean break imo or we’ll be having the same discussion next year
I mean if somehow he exceeds all of our expecations next year then what? We will owe him a huge contract and would anyone feel the problem is completely solved going forward with 1/6 stellar years and 5/6 up and down years? If he balls out next year would we really feel comfortable and confident the next year may go the other way?
I said yes because I’m not sure there’s a better option at this point. Contrary to belief, I’m ok with bringing him back through a tag of some sort. Anything long term with over 27 million a yr would be a disgrace.
I say do that non exclusive tag on Winston and see how things go. If someone wants him, great! Bucs get two first round picks in exchange.
I voted Yes assuming it will be a team friendly deal. Even as critical as I have been of JW I want to see him in the second yr of BA’s system.
Don’t tell Ndog that tho
Y’all already know that I consider anyone to be a better choice than Jameis. Anybody else will be able to be somewhat consistent and that can be worked on.
How can you coach someone whose only consistency if inconsistency.
Craig Says:
February 4th, 2020 at 10:03 am
Y’all already know that I consider anyone to be a better choice than Jameis. Anybody else will be able to be somewhat consistent and that can be worked on.
How can you coach someone whose only consistency if inconsistency.
Because, as Koetter always said “the best ability is availability”? I’m kidding of course. Being available and being terrible is kind of the worst combination imaginable.
“I bet if he drove the field to win vs atlanta, it would be mostly yes.”
You seriously believe that most of us voting NO were hanging in with him until that drive? You must be kidding. I’ve been done with him for about 3 years. He will never be consistent enough to get us to the promised land, ever. His career here started with a pick-6 and I hope every day it ends with the pick-6 he threw that game.
Dude do not even try to speak for the majority LMAO. I am so sick of everyone pigeonholing themselves when referencing the entire fan base. If you looked at these votes, they were all over the place all season. Skyrocketing during the two 450 yard games and plummeting vs the saints.
If you don’t think this would be completely different if he had finished the season with a game winning drive, then you have no pulse on this fan base. You have your opinion, and thats great I respect it, but stop speaking for everyone.
Jameis will be your qb most likely in 2020 so it’s probably time you stop getting so frustrated or you’re in for a long ride.
Good one man, but I think Realist still sleeps with her too.
She’s been trying to ween him forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nope! As the season progressed the rest of the team became good enough to win. He was the cog. He’s a great person and I wish him well. He can be successful in any number of occupations. Just not QB. Maybe he can be ballin for the Yankees.
I voted yes based on our rich history of QB searches, meaning we would probably go thru 3-5 more QB’s before we find the right one. Then BA will retire and the new coach will just have to make do with the QB for his new system.
This team is not very far away from a deep playoff run if the front 7 are kept. Bucs need an upgrade at RT, RB, and QB. Team could stand to bring in a veteran player in the secondary.
I said no but if he’s willing to take a 1 year deal at the same rate of his 5th year option. Dudes gotta prove he can cut down turnovers. Even if you’re throwing 45 times a game the amount Jameis had is unacceptable.
Team went 5-3 the last half with Evans & Godwin missing games. Buc fans deserve to lose. He Lovie as a coach then Dirk who just made a mvp qb worst, 50+ miss fgs last 5 years, the defense had 19.5 sack guy + a 8 sack guy and still 30th against the pass. The running game still missing. If a 10 year vet was in 20/20 club in this offense the 1st year wouldn’t you think a 5 year qb at least do that instead should he could make more mistakes but also throw more tds then that vet. I hope Winston moves on and raises the Super Bowl trophy in Tampa next year. Its would be what these fans deserve.
Uhh, I’m not lying. I don’t care how he played that year or the year before that. I get to see 3-5 games a year because I don’t live in the southeast part of the country. I only generally get to see the Bucs play if it’s a national game or if they are playing an NFC North team as the away team (I live in Chicago). In 5 years, I’ve seen him play about 18-20 times. He won less than 5 of those games, and he played utterly atrocious in over half of them.
I don’t care about his stats, his records, nothing but what I’ve actually been able to see. What I’ve seen is not the play of a franchise QB. I first started to notice that after his first 2 seasons and have disliked him/wanted him gone since.
Don’t worry. Most bucs fans have only seen 5 games in 5 years. But they still have strong opinions of something they don’t know much about, like yourself.
I don’t live in tampa but you better believe I’m paying $250 a year for directv and still attending 3-4 a year.
Do you seriously believe that idiotic post? REAL FANS will support their inevitable starting qb who has been supported by a laundry list of people that are smarter than yourself.
Awful fans hate the QB and hope he fails therefore the team loses.
If true, I have a problem with Jameis thinking he deserves $30 million a year. Here are a few of the QBs that played better than Jameis last year… Drew Brees, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr, Day Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, etc..
Jameis played like a second tier and inexperienced QB…. Sam Darnold, Mitch Trubisky, Kyle Allen, and Baker Mayfield, NOT $30 million!!
Winston SUCKS when games matter. When the chips are down he folds. How many winning streaks has he had in the first half of the season? NONE but he always starts playing better after we are eliminated. I called it at the beginning of the year…and it happened. Same old story. WINSTON IS TRASH. Garbage. Tine to take out the trash. And you sucka fans can go with him.
Another one of those Yes or No polls that offers no concrete ALTERNATIVES, thus it’s meaningless.
Ask a concrete question … “Would you rather have Derek Carr than Jameis Winston as your 2020 QB?” … and I can give you a Yes or No answer (my answer would be Yes BTW). Until then, Not Sure … until I know who his replacement is.
Or even asking the question … “Should Bucs pay Jameis Winston $30 mil for his services in 2020?” I can answer that one … No way. It’d hurt the rest of the TEAM and Jameis isn’t good enough to make up for the shortfalls that’d be created (yet again).
Like Raheem said ‘I’ll tolerate you until I can replace you’. That would certainly imply that he’d need to have a replacement lined up.
I root for the Bucs to win every damn game- don’t care about the names on the back of the jersey.
I have a disdain for FSU honks and apologists that put the subpar play and results from our QB ahead of the franchise.
Do you think the Bucs could win without Jameis? What about Jameis gives us an advantage to win? I just see “entertainment” and both teams feasting on his throws. For crying out loud Jameis’ #3 TD received this year was the opposing Defense.
Don’t act like Jameis is coming back and it’s a slam dunk. Idk, you don’t know and when you name call or insult you just look like a little whiny apologist ass beeeotch!
He loses way more games than he wins…
He clearly isn’t the answer to winning….
Waste of time and other players talents!..
Starting him is an action expressing the condoning of loses!
Since you all (Tye Dolla Signs, Sexy Rexy, Bri guy, Wesley Snipes, Roberta, and Steven) believe it’s all Jameis Winston’s that fault we lose…The Bucs — Jameis = Undefeated, no?
Of the 371 not sure, its likely safe to say that a good many of them would change their vote to NO if they knew the replacement was going to be Rivers/Dalton/Carr..
Stop being a hypocrite. You stay whining on this site. If you think we’d have a better chance with a qb who doesn’t sling it with no run game and a bad passing defense then you are misinformed my friend.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:39 am
Sure … for a one year incentive laden deal with an option for 2021. Around the $25 million range. Or franchise tag him, but I would rather use that on Shaq for Sacks.
February 4th, 2020 at 8:42 am
Joe didn’t get the results he liked on the last poll so he tries again ha ha ha ha
February 4th, 2020 at 8:50 am
In BA I Trust!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 8:57 am
not sure…
GO BUCS!!!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 9:01 am
@813broccoli
The question is about the QB, not your sexuality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 9:10 am
No. We may gamble and end up ina worse situation, it’s always a possibility, but no reason to keep a lame duck around if he’s not winning the guy that’s going to win you a super bowl. Better to have a clean break imo or we’ll be having the same discussion next year
February 4th, 2020 at 9:12 am
I mean if somehow he exceeds all of our expecations next year then what? We will owe him a huge contract and would anyone feel the problem is completely solved going forward with 1/6 stellar years and 5/6 up and down years? If he balls out next year would we really feel comfortable and confident the next year may go the other way?
February 4th, 2020 at 9:21 am
Nothing is promised either way. Not sure.
February 4th, 2020 at 9:22 am
After 5 yrs …Would you trust your qb in a playoff game ? Why waste time as only winning matters…. move on
February 4th, 2020 at 9:35 am
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 9:40 am
I said yes because I’m not sure there’s a better option at this point. Contrary to belief, I’m ok with bringing him back through a tag of some sort. Anything long term with over 27 million a yr would be a disgrace.
I say do that non exclusive tag on Winston and see how things go. If someone wants him, great! Bucs get two first round picks in exchange.
February 4th, 2020 at 9:44 am
I voted Yes assuming it will be a team friendly deal. Even as critical as I have been of JW I want to see him in the second yr of BA’s system.
Don’t tell Ndog that tho
February 4th, 2020 at 9:51 am
It sucks this is this hard a decision lol.
Give me Winston back if he’s willing to take a cap friendly incentive laden deal (i.e. worst case he’s $17-20M on the books next year)
Or
Give me a all-in on a new cheap rook if he’s wanting a bunch of $$$.
I’m guessing either way we will draft a QB
February 4th, 2020 at 10:03 am
Y’all already know that I consider anyone to be a better choice than Jameis. Anybody else will be able to be somewhat consistent and that can be worked on.
How can you coach someone whose only consistency if inconsistency.
February 4th, 2020 at 10:18 am
Craig Says:
February 4th, 2020 at 10:03 am
Y’all already know that I consider anyone to be a better choice than Jameis. Anybody else will be able to be somewhat consistent and that can be worked on.
How can you coach someone whose only consistency if inconsistency.
Because, as Koetter always said “the best ability is availability”? I’m kidding of course. Being available and being terrible is kind of the worst combination imaginable.
February 4th, 2020 at 10:22 am
put a fork in him.
February 4th, 2020 at 10:29 am
realist
momma realist knows all about it!!!!!!!…knock before you enter next time….
GO BUCS!!!!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 10:37 am
This is truly sad that No is winning.
I bet if he drove the field to win vs atlanta, it would be mostly yes.
Going to be a lot of disappointed bucs fans when his contract is announced. Until week 1. Telling you, this is our year….
…With Jameis!
February 4th, 2020 at 10:40 am
@buccernutter
“I bet if he drove the field to win vs atlanta, it would be mostly yes.”
You seriously believe that most of us voting NO were hanging in with him until that drive? You must be kidding. I’ve been done with him for about 3 years. He will never be consistent enough to get us to the promised land, ever. His career here started with a pick-6 and I hope every day it ends with the pick-6 he threw that game.
February 4th, 2020 at 10:51 am
Matthew Fifer
Dude do not even try to speak for the majority LMAO. I am so sick of everyone pigeonholing themselves when referencing the entire fan base. If you looked at these votes, they were all over the place all season. Skyrocketing during the two 450 yard games and plummeting vs the saints.
If you don’t think this would be completely different if he had finished the season with a game winning drive, then you have no pulse on this fan base. You have your opinion, and thats great I respect it, but stop speaking for everyone.
Jameis will be your qb most likely in 2020 so it’s probably time you stop getting so frustrated or you’re in for a long ride.
February 4th, 2020 at 11:02 am
813
Good one man, but I think Realist still sleeps with her too.
She’s been trying to ween him forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 4th, 2020 at 11:13 am
Nope! As the season progressed the rest of the team became good enough to win. He was the cog. He’s a great person and I wish him well. He can be successful in any number of occupations. Just not QB. Maybe he can be ballin for the Yankees.
February 4th, 2020 at 11:31 am
@Buccernutter
Matthew Fifer speaks for me. XD
That is all!
February 4th, 2020 at 11:37 am
I voted yes based on our rich history of QB searches, meaning we would probably go thru 3-5 more QB’s before we find the right one. Then BA will retire and the new coach will just have to make do with the QB for his new system.
February 4th, 2020 at 11:46 am
This team is not very far away from a deep playoff run if the front 7 are kept. Bucs need an upgrade at RT, RB, and QB. Team could stand to bring in a veteran player in the secondary.
February 4th, 2020 at 11:52 am
I said no but if he’s willing to take a 1 year deal at the same rate of his 5th year option. Dudes gotta prove he can cut down turnovers. Even if you’re throwing 45 times a game the amount Jameis had is unacceptable.
February 4th, 2020 at 11:54 am
Barrack
Oh ya, I know he speaks for the majority as evidenced by this poll THIS WEEK, but the majority are not educated and simply going off of int #s.
That is all.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:18 pm
Matthew shut your lying ass up. 3 years ago Winston had only 11 picks and was hurt after 3rd game. He was 9-7 the previous year with 28tds and 18int.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:27 pm
Team went 5-3 the last half with Evans & Godwin missing games. Buc fans deserve to lose. He Lovie as a coach then Dirk who just made a mvp qb worst, 50+ miss fgs last 5 years, the defense had 19.5 sack guy + a 8 sack guy and still 30th against the pass. The running game still missing. If a 10 year vet was in 20/20 club in this offense the 1st year wouldn’t you think a 5 year qb at least do that instead should he could make more mistakes but also throw more tds then that vet. I hope Winston moves on and raises the Super Bowl trophy in Tampa next year. Its would be what these fans deserve.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:33 pm
HAHA Jaywill, so true.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:40 pm
@Jaywill
Uhh, I’m not lying. I don’t care how he played that year or the year before that. I get to see 3-5 games a year because I don’t live in the southeast part of the country. I only generally get to see the Bucs play if it’s a national game or if they are playing an NFC North team as the away team (I live in Chicago). In 5 years, I’ve seen him play about 18-20 times. He won less than 5 of those games, and he played utterly atrocious in over half of them.
I don’t care about his stats, his records, nothing but what I’ve actually been able to see. What I’ve seen is not the play of a franchise QB. I first started to notice that after his first 2 seasons and have disliked him/wanted him gone since.
February 4th, 2020 at 12:47 pm
Matthew
Don’t worry. Most bucs fans have only seen 5 games in 5 years. But they still have strong opinions of something they don’t know much about, like yourself.
I don’t live in tampa but you better believe I’m paying $250 a year for directv and still attending 3-4 a year.
February 4th, 2020 at 2:14 pm
Guess the fans have had just as much (of) excitement as they can handle.
February 4th, 2020 at 2:16 pm
Hahaha!
Tv viewership matters.
Fans have a right to judge the team.
Awful fans like the QB and not the team. They hope for losing with their guy, instead of a winning team. Here’s to hope that we cut bait.
February 4th, 2020 at 2:24 pm
SteveK
Do you seriously believe that idiotic post? REAL FANS will support their inevitable starting qb who has been supported by a laundry list of people that are smarter than yourself.
Awful fans hate the QB and hope he fails therefore the team loses.
February 4th, 2020 at 2:49 pm
If true, I have a problem with Jameis thinking he deserves $30 million a year. Here are a few of the QBs that played better than Jameis last year… Drew Brees, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr, Day Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers, etc..
Jameis played like a second tier and inexperienced QB…. Sam Darnold, Mitch Trubisky, Kyle Allen, and Baker Mayfield, NOT $30 million!!
February 4th, 2020 at 4:12 pm
Winston SUCKS when games matter. When the chips are down he folds. How many winning streaks has he had in the first half of the season? NONE but he always starts playing better after we are eliminated. I called it at the beginning of the year…and it happened. Same old story. WINSTON IS TRASH. Garbage. Tine to take out the trash. And you sucka fans can go with him.
February 4th, 2020 at 4:27 pm
Another one of those Yes or No polls that offers no concrete ALTERNATIVES, thus it’s meaningless.
Ask a concrete question … “Would you rather have Derek Carr than Jameis Winston as your 2020 QB?” … and I can give you a Yes or No answer (my answer would be Yes BTW). Until then, Not Sure … until I know who his replacement is.
Or even asking the question … “Should Bucs pay Jameis Winston $30 mil for his services in 2020?” I can answer that one … No way. It’d hurt the rest of the TEAM and Jameis isn’t good enough to make up for the shortfalls that’d be created (yet again).
Like Raheem said ‘I’ll tolerate you until I can replace you’. That would certainly imply that he’d need to have a replacement lined up.
February 4th, 2020 at 4:33 pm
Time to move on those last couple games proves it..
February 4th, 2020 at 4:33 pm
Only if you enjoy watching interceptions at key moments then yeah sure.
February 4th, 2020 at 4:41 pm
Can’t trust him with the football, it’s really that simple.
February 4th, 2020 at 5:14 pm
Buccernutter,
Re-read and try again!
I root for the Bucs to win every damn game- don’t care about the names on the back of the jersey.
I have a disdain for FSU honks and apologists that put the subpar play and results from our QB ahead of the franchise.
Do you think the Bucs could win without Jameis? What about Jameis gives us an advantage to win? I just see “entertainment” and both teams feasting on his throws. For crying out loud Jameis’ #3 TD received this year was the opposing Defense.
Don’t act like Jameis is coming back and it’s a slam dunk. Idk, you don’t know and when you name call or insult you just look like a little whiny apologist ass beeeotch!
February 4th, 2020 at 6:17 pm
Joe
In your poll, if you eliminate the “Not Sure” and just go with “Yes” or “No” the No’ s will be up around 60% or a little more.
Try it next time
February 4th, 2020 at 8:22 pm
Doug Williams and Steve Young…. enough said
February 4th, 2020 at 9:42 pm
cannunk, names from the 80s. That’s stupid and scared. Put on your big boy pants lil fella. Don’t be scared.
February 4th, 2020 at 9:53 pm
He loses way more games than he wins…
He clearly isn’t the answer to winning….
Waste of time and other players talents!..
Starting him is an action expressing the condoning of loses!
Better off without him..
February 4th, 2020 at 10:17 pm
Since you all (Tye Dolla Signs, Sexy Rexy, Bri guy, Wesley Snipes, Roberta, and Steven) believe it’s all Jameis Winston’s that fault we lose…The Bucs — Jameis = Undefeated, no?
February 5th, 2020 at 7:35 am
Since Joe never commented on the results with the last poll I doubt he’s gonna comment on this one as it goes against his flawed view of the QB
February 5th, 2020 at 10:04 am
Not really….one year bridge maybe if he’s friendly with the cap….
N 923
Y 610
Looks like he’s outta here. I really think BA wants him gone anyway.
Besides, we got Brady possibly coming! 🙂
February 5th, 2020 at 3:27 pm
Of the 371 not sure, its likely safe to say that a good many of them would change their vote to NO if they knew the replacement was going to be Rivers/Dalton/Carr..
February 6th, 2020 at 10:36 am
stevek
Stop being a hypocrite. You stay whining on this site. If you think we’d have a better chance with a qb who doesn’t sling it with no run game and a bad passing defense then you are misinformed my friend.