Another Nod For Joe Flacco
February 9th, 2020
Tribal drumbeat begins.
For those who may be outraged by this headline, it pays to read the story.
Last week Bucs fans freaked when former NFL quarterback Jim Miller, who had a cup of coffee with Chucky and the Bucs, suggested on his popular SiriusXM NFL Radio show “Movin’ the Chains,” the Bucs would be wise to upgrade at the quarterback position by acquiring Super Bowl-winning quarterback Joe Flacco, who sure as heck looks to be at the end of his rope.
Now another football source has jumped on the Flacco-to-Tampa bandwagon. And that is none other than the PFF tribe. But it may be not what you think.
Anthony Treash types Flacco would come to Tampa Bay not as a starter as Miller suggested, but rather a backup to Jameis. He also believes it is rational if not likely the Bucs keep Jameis at least for one more year.
But with Flacco, Treash believes Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians would have a solid veteran to turn to when Bad Jameis rears his ugly head.
Assuming Bruce Arians rides the Jameis-coaster for one more season, a likely scenario is that he’ll bring in an established veteran to compete with the former first overall pick. This would also give Arians a viable option to turn to if Winston continues his endless string of turnovers. Flacco fits this type of role, and he has the type of arm Bruce Arians loves.
Flacco has always been a quarterback who thrives in a clean pocket and collapses under pressure, and his 2019 is a testament to that. … He isn’t a consensus starting quarterback anymore, but he can certainly bring some competition to the volatile Jameis Winston.
This makes a whole lot more sense than Flacco as a starter, which only makes nonsense.
Per Treash, the Broncos would eat a far smaller cap hit releasing Flacco after June 1.
As a backup, adding Flacco might just be a smart move.
Would Joe lobby for Flacco to start over Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston? Not a chance in hell!
February 9th, 2020 at 5:44 am
another name,another angle to throw at the wall to see if it sticks.
no thank you
February 9th, 2020 at 6:32 am
Flacco actually has a hell.of an arm, amd is accurate and can move if needed BUT the dude just always looks deflated, quiet and unmotivated. Id take bridgewater, mot sure rivers would work unless BA is going to call plays and tweak the offense.
February 9th, 2020 at 7:03 am
Yeah…except that Flacco may need neck surgery next moth, so he probably won’t be active.
Broncos take a $13m cap hit if they release him. No way do we trade for him.
February 9th, 2020 at 7:15 am
No way. Dead money issues aside, the Bucs cannot afford both. End of discussion.
February 9th, 2020 at 7:17 am
Must be a slow news day Joe. Lol
February 9th, 2020 at 7:28 am
This is possible…..Flacco is scheduled to make $20.5 mil in 2020…..but none is guaranteed…..the only question is how much….
To me….if you are still worried about Winston going forward or if you bring in an older QB….you must use a draft pick for a QB…
February 9th, 2020 at 7:45 am
Well if he NEEDS a clean pocket and collapses under pressure, then this would be a great FA signing if the Bucs are tanking for Trevor in 2020.
February 9th, 2020 at 7:51 am
Being one always for reality, my take on Flacco is luke warm. Yes, Jameis L. Winston isn’t cutting it. Even his “lovers” know that but don’t admit it. He will never allow the Bucs to go better than 9-7 due to his turnover problems, no matter how many garbage yards he throws for. So if you like sitting in two-thirds full (again, not half empty…I am Reality) stadium and watching a few great plays by Jameis, and it’s okay to lose, he is the QB for you. Jamies is great if you are his wife. Oh, wait, kid, chick, not married. You can grab crotch, lie, get suspended, and whine and claim your love for God, and all is good. I’m sorry. I didn’t remember that. I digress. Now, some (most?) of you here don’t buy tickets, so you really have no input other than your endless blabbering in long posts that in the end, don’t support the Bucs where is counts (not to mention any names, Defense Rules). So opine away, losers. America is great! But when it comes to Flacco, I give the nod to Jameis. He at least has some “want to” and Jameis has That single aspect going on big time. I don’t think Flacco has the fire that Winston has given his last two seasons. And I don’t know what could be going on with Flacco. That said, NONE of these two are long-term solutions. Also, so many say Arians is the QB whisperer. I think it just depends on who his subject is. Winston has not improved. Do I need to say that twice? Oh, it takes two years or more in a BA system. BS! The fans aren’t stupid. That is, the ticket buying fans. The rest…keep flapping your jibs; you are as worthless to Bucs as MRSA. So…yes, in the past two years, Winston has more upside than Flacco, but Flacco has won before, and it’s fair to say, yes, let’s see HIM in BA’s system, under BA’s tutelage. I will say this: The Bucs have surely asked Flacco “why” he is doing what he is doing in the “not good” column. Enter the QB whisperer. Enter need to give some hope to Bucs fans. That is, it is a fact you will NOT sell more tickets with Winston. You will NOT get more fan enthusiasm (here is where you non-ticket losers come in) Winston. You morons that sit behind your keyboard and don’t got to games miss this key point. So if taking a bet, I’d bet on Flacco over Winston. Periiod. Lukewarm, yes. Do the Bucs need to draft a QB. OH, YES!. The Reality is Winston will not bring more fans and it is highly likely he will just be the same old Winston. The Bucs know it. He knows it but still wants to get paid. And YOU know it.
February 9th, 2020 at 7:53 am
Why have one bad QB when you can have two? Maybe we can split the difference, and put Flacco’s brain in Winston’s body. Bet we’d get national attention then. On a side note, I live in the same town as Heisman winner, and NBC’s color commentator Doug Flutie. He was at a party I attended yesterday for a mutual friend, so off course I wasn’t going to not ask him the Jameis question. Here’s what he said. I was never a big fan when he came out of college. I thought he made bad decisions, wasn’t the most accurate QB, and simply turns the ball over way to much. He said, my opinion hasn’t changed, about him the Bucs should move on. Joe, I got a scoop on you, but of course loved to share.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:02 am
I want to add, if the Bucs go after Flacco, it will be as the starter. But he is NOT a FA. Frankly, he is he not likely anyway. This gets me back to Rivers. FA QB, and he will sign for tag money anyway (but the Bucs will offer two years, $50M with 40 guaranteed), and the Bucs will draft a QB. All you saying to tag Winston don’t understand how those work or the effects….say it again…effects….those have on the relationships and perceptions by fans. Look, the fans don’t see this team on the cusp on an NFL championshiop. And some idiots tag their goals to playoff berth. That is loser mentality from the start. All that said, not to mention, for Winston, you are OVER paying with ANY tag. That is the reality. Tag isn’t going to happen, and he won’t be on the roster with Flacco. Reality will play out…NEITHER enter Bucs training camp. Thank you.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:02 am
I’ve never been a fan of Flacco and he seems bored and uninterested most of the time. If we are going the vet backup route I’d rather have Dalton (he isn’t good either and should not intimidate Jameis like Fitz did). Getting a rookie QB after round one should be a priority as well for when Jameis, in all likelihood, fails (fingers crossed he won’t) to prove that he is a franchise guy again.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:07 am
Buczilla, I think you are thinking right…refreshing from a fan, but even Dalton doesn’t come without the Bucs losing something since he is under contract. If they wait until he is cut that is only hurtng their own season…showing incompetence again. Reactive vs proactive. A FA QB with drafting a guy to be the future is the best solution. I think the Bucs will go that route.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:10 am
Pass on Flacco
Plus why does this guy think an expensive backup is the answer
I mean fitzpatrick got in Jameis head
Flacco you could say is a tad better.
You dont think jameis wouldnt be looking over shoulder at flacco , a super bowl winner ?
Bad idea
Plus zero chance they pay 2 qbs bigger salaries when they need shaq and jpp
February 9th, 2020 at 8:10 am
So let’s get this right, you want to pay Flacco $12-15 million, sign
or tag Winston for $27 million, so $40 million later we haven’t signed anyone else and we have 4 defensive front players to sign as a minimum !, no other FA’s and our draft picks.
Shaq alone is going to get north of 18 and they a higher priority than JayMiss according to BA, what’s plan B ?.
And all because we want to give JW another year in which he will fail.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:15 am
Following this logic, Jamesis starts, then Flacco enters the game after the first pass.
February 9th, 2020 at 8:34 am
Mr Reality is triggered. Dude just wrote some novel!
February 9th, 2020 at 8:37 am
And where’s that money coming from ?
February 9th, 2020 at 9:12 am
Don’t see either of those things happening….Flacco or Winston being on the roster next season.
I think we DO sign/acquire a veteran QB….who can still play for a year or two….Bridgewater, Rivers, Mariota (maybe Foles, depending on what the Jags decide to do??), while we groom the new QB we select in the Draft to challenge for the starting role in season 2.
The only other scenario that could possibly make sense, would be if a guy like Derek Carr were to become available….via a trade with the Raiders….then you probably still sign a backup guy, but don’t draft a QB in 2020. (There have been rumors that Gruden wants to make a splash as they move into their new home in Vegas….maybe the Raiders acquire the Bengals #1 pick and go for Joe Burrow, and trade Carr to TB for a draft pick or two….or a guy like OJ Howard.)
It’s all speculation at this point, but who knows what happens as we move closer to free agency and the draft.
February 9th, 2020 at 9:33 am
My view point remains on who is going to be EFFECTIVE. There is no price point where Flacco looks the part. With Winston I believe there is a range but the two parties are so far apart, I don’t see it being realistic. Winston hasn’t been effective on bargain contracts at $20 million or less…..he needs soooo much help that you cant pay everyone. I believe Rivers at $20 million could pull it off….Bridgewater possibly. Carr is intriguing at $20 million….Newton is in that same price point. Brady would be exciting but he’s too expensive and needs a run game and we have to keep the defense together. Dalton is one I think surprises people and presents the best value. He led the Bengals to three straight playoff appearances…..AND WON. That’s no easy task with the Bengals who everyone says has ZERO intention on fielding a playoff caliber team. I think Dalton and Rivers present similar products but Dalton is the value play. Carr could be a nice snag but a tad pricier….but he’s young so there’s value to that.
February 9th, 2020 at 9:53 am
I would sell my tickets if they brought in Flacco.
February 9th, 2020 at 10:02 am
Years ago, Mark Schlereth was asked if he’d sign Terrell Owens. His answer was “I keep bouncing back and forth to NO and HELL NO”. I have the same opinion on the Bucs getting Joe Flacco. If he was the only NFL option, I’d be scouring the CFL, XFL, and Arena Football rosters.
February 9th, 2020 at 10:04 am
I thought we weren’t allowed to have a viable backup…with Jaboo’s fragile ego and all…
February 9th, 2020 at 10:08 am
So throwing for 5,000 yards, 33 TDs and having the #3 scoring offense in the NFL with virtually no running game or decent kicker is now “not effective” ? Man you people sure have short memories or are just CLUELESS.
And the one above talking about Mariota or Foles, bro do you even watch football?
My goodness if anyone that knows anything about football would read these message boards they would think we have the dumbest fan base in the country. Can you guys please stop posting to preserve what little intelligence we have left as a fan base?
February 9th, 2020 at 10:15 am
Arians said at seasons end that the reason Winston didn’t get the hook a few times was because Gabbert was injured. That is NOT what Arians said. –Joe
So as far as Flacco goes, Tennessee Titans 2.0
February 9th, 2020 at 10:33 am
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February 9th, 2020 at 10:47 am
I can’t think of anything that would make me lose excitement more than this. Sure I’d still watch and support the the team but I wouldn’t exactly have the David Putty type of excitement for each game.
February 9th, 2020 at 10:58 am
Yeah Ndog, it wasn’t effective numb nutz. Literally the ONLY WAY that it could have been proved effective is if we had a winning record or were in the playoffs. Who exactly is the one that DOESN’T know anything about football? The blind could figure this one out but not you, LOL. You’re like a neverending punchline.
February 9th, 2020 at 11:26 am
Let’s hope we have better options at backup QB other than Flacco. What about Marcus Mariota? Look at what New Orleans has with Breeze and Hill at QB. I believe having two different QBs could actually be very beneficial is utilized properly.
February 9th, 2020 at 11:26 am
*if not is…
February 9th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
Better options, IMHO:
1) Resign, franchise, or transition tag Winston (if he asks for too much, move on)
2) Sign Tom Brady (I think he’ll resign with NE or go to the Raiders)
3) Trade for Derek Carr (If Raiders sign Brady)
4) Trade for Matthew Stafford
5) Sign Philip Rivers
6) Sign Teddy Bridgewater
7) Trade for Andy Dalton
Etc., etc., etc.
171) Trade for/sign Joe Flacco
February 9th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
Mariota seems like a great guy and would be a good backup somewhere, IMHO. Does he have the arm for our offense?
February 9th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
Bobby, are you friends with the Glazers? Did they tell you this because nothing has been reported on your statements that they are so far apart and it isn’t realistic. You do realize that posters on this site do not make the decisions for the franchise right?
February 9th, 2020 at 12:09 pm
If Bucs tag JW3, can they afford to pay Flacco the coin that he’ll want to come to TB as a BU???
Wouldn’t that size of investment be better served grooming 1st Rd rookie that can be the franchise face – if JW3 can’t keep a grip on the job?
To me, Flacco looks destined to BU D.Jones in NY…Gettleman gets Jones another “mentoring Vet” to help continue his development…Flacco gets to go back “home” (NJ kid) & into the optimal market to advance his eventual move from playing field to broadcast booth.
February 9th, 2020 at 12:23 pm
Jeagan1999 Says:
The only other scenario that could possibly make sense, would be if a guy like Derek Carr were to become available….via a trade with the Raiders….then you probably still sign a backup guy, but don’t draft a QB in 2020. trade Carr to TB for a draft pick or two….or a guy like OJ Howard.
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I like that scenario
February 9th, 2020 at 12:29 pm
Screw that. If we’re going to keep Jameis then I think we should draft a QB. He’s now a veteran after 5 seasons and he doesn’t need another veteran to hold his hand. We need another youngster behind him to develop. If you think turning to Flacco would be better, your nuts. I’d rather turn to a rookie instead. At least someone with a youthful pulse.
February 9th, 2020 at 1:32 pm
@ Joe in Mich.
Does Mariota have enough arm strength to run BAs offense? Probably not. But I would think they would have a slightly variable offense for Mariota to run. Again look at what New Orleans is doing with Breeze and Taysom Hill.
February 9th, 2020 at 1:58 pm
Marine Buc: I get what you’re saying, a QB with a different skillset. I’m not sure it’d be worth it, if we had to have a different offense for the backup. The same offense would be a square peg in a round hole for someone like Mariota, IMHO.
February 9th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
Even if you get Flacco at 50% of cost… $10M + $27M to tag JW? Noooooo!
I wouldn’t spend $37M at QB (see 1,000 articles on importance of DL free agents) but if you really wanted to there’s a much better way: $2M for Gabbert and $35M for TB12! Glazers might even be ahead of the game on a cashflow basis with the sold-out home games.
February 9th, 2020 at 3:37 pm
Bucs need to be smart. Sure up o-line… Secondary… Running back….
Jameis is not the issue right now. This team has bigger problems than qb. It doesn’t matter who you get as qb. It won’t matter with an awful line. Plus we need to try to keep that d-line intact.
February 9th, 2020 at 4:09 pm
Agreed, WestChap. I’m not sure that Flacco is any better than Gabbert, and Gabbert already knows the offense.
February 9th, 2020 at 4:48 pm
Not that Blaine Gabbert is the best backup option out there, but I’d take him over Flacco.
February 9th, 2020 at 5:03 pm
Flacco being a “viable option” is news to everyone in Baltimore and Denver. Why on earth is everyone trying to bailout John Elway?
February 9th, 2020 at 5:47 pm
Not a smart connection imo. If we stuck with Winston, which we won’t. But if we did – what makes Flacco better than Gabbert? BA loves Gabbert. He knows the offense. Probably comes cheaper. Bruce even admitted that if not for Gabbert injuring his shoulder in preseason, he likely would have replaced Jameis when things got ugly. Winston is as good as gone, and Flacco ain’t nowhere on the Bucs’ radar.
February 9th, 2020 at 9:24 pm
Probably worth signing at least 2 veterans to fight for QB2.
I’d take Flaco as one of them for the entertainment value from the replay of the troll on Winston.
As for the starter, I think it’s time for a rookie reboot.
February 9th, 2020 at 9:39 pm
EEK: I think the best of the QB’s will be gone when we draft. They say that Justin Herbert isn’t a take charge guy and is quiet. That to me is not a problem. I think it might be with Coach Arians and Licht (one of the reasons we took Winston over Mariota was MM is the same way). I’d be okay with Jacob Eason in the 2nd Round (probably wouldn’t fall that far), and he’ll need time to develop, maybe a year or 2. I also doubt that BA & JL want to take a QB in the 1st, owners and fans want a winner now.