Vic Beasley And The Buccaneers
January 24th, 2020
Joe’s written many times that it’s fairy-tale, pewter-blinded thinking to believe Jason Pierre-Paul will not demand top dollar on the free agent market.
He’s proven enough to earn close to it.
Not a believer? Ok. Keep in mind JPP is a guy who twice in his career has bet on himself in a big way when it comes to the business of the league.
Regardless, Joe wonders where the Bucs might turn in free agency as a contingency plan if they can’t get JPP to take a deal.
Enter Vic Beasley, one of the more interesting free agents out there. The 2015 first-round pick was getting called a bust in his first season, and then he cranked out 15 1/2 sacks in a career year in 2016, after the Falcons moved him to linebacker and took him out of the traditional edge rusher role.
Beasley slid back to meh play in 2017 and 2018, but then he was a catalyst in the Falcons’ late-season surge this season. In the second half of 2019, he recorded 6 1/2 sacks, two forced fumbles and six tackles for loss.
In a dissection of the Falcons roster today in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Falcons beat writer D. Orlando Ledbetter said he would let Beasley walk in free agency. “In the second half of the season, Beasley started to embrace using more than just his speed. He was moved from the left side to the right and finished with eight sacks.”
Beasley, 27, only has missed two games in his career, and he certainly seems like the athletic freak kind of guy Todd Bowles would embrace in Tampa. Joe always thought Beasley was an odd and underachieving fit in Dan Quinn’s defense. Plus, Bucco Bruce Arians openly has talked about how he likes offering guys one-year contracts.
Joe thinks Beasley, who earned $13 million this season, might be interested in betting on himself and then cashing in bigger for 2021. Nobody’s going to give him a massive multiyear deal.
Just another guy to consider as the Bucs figure out how to not screw up massive salary cap room and critical decisions.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:12 am
If we pay beasley and not jpp, I’m going to be pissed. Beasley does not possess the leadership that jpp PROVED this year. Man the twinkle in the player’s eyes when they were being led by him is something I haven’t seen since sapp. That dude is a real one.
Falcons are going to have a difficult season next year. They have 0 cap and a terrible defense. Panther are in rebuild and saints gotta regress at some pt. Man that is a sad franchise right now. Three extremely disappointing finishes in back to back to back seasons.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:21 am
This guy’s a dud. Just speed around the outside and OTs guide him to no-mans-land. It’ll be interesting to see what someone (not the Bucs) pays him.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:23 am
bad idea…..
draft a DE/OLB and develop nelson…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
January 24th, 2020 at 10:26 am
To me you resign all on defense and decide between Suh and Winston it’s one or the other. You don’t give JW too much that hurts the cap he doesn’t deserve money of consistent player. He hasn’t shown he will change so don’t risk
January 24th, 2020 at 10:29 am
Bad idea Joe. How much do you believe JPP will get vs. What Beasley wants? Don’t see much of a difference in cash and you only get a few years younger. Give me JPP.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:30 am
Absolutely agree with THETRUTH.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:38 am
You can’t blame JPP for wanting the best for himself…….but, I do think he wants to stay in Tampa with this defense……he should appreciate that the Bucs didn’t cut him and be reasonable..
…it’s always a gamble when older players test the market.
As far as Beasley and other FA pass rushers…..of course you consider them if you can’t sign JPP.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:41 am
Nelso is ready to go. One year under him with jpp. Suh etc. exp. ready to go.
Vic will be a beast in Todd scheme. Let’s do it. Don’t pay shaq. Let’s get other cheap $ players. And sign Winston to 30M
813bucboi Says:
January 24th, 2020 at 10:23 am
bad idea…..
draft a DE/OLB and develop nelson…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
January 24th, 2020 at 10:44 am
There is a saying that you can’t have enough pass rushers. It all depends on the price tag. If he takes a very favorable probe it contract like Shaq did, you find him a roster spot, most likely Nassib’s. But I would hate to see Nassib go, I love that kids motor
January 24th, 2020 at 10:51 am
Did anyone notice JPPs instagram post? He cleaned out his Tampa apartment and said “I’m going to miss this view” and “goodbye Tampa”. Then he showed pics of his empty apartment. Doesn’t look good…
January 24th, 2020 at 10:52 am
Marine
NOOOOOOO!!! What a terrible mistake. I don’t care what anyone says I’m keepin jpp over shaq.
January 24th, 2020 at 10:55 am
MarineBuc
Thanks for that pickup….hadn’t seen it.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:04 am
Marine
I just watched it and he said his lease expired so he took his stuff with him cuz he didn’t want to pay for storage. He said it’s a business and he wants to stay in tampa but they gotta bring it (the $) and it will all work out. He addressed all of it.
Nothing I wouldn’t expect at this pt. He’s just about that business.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:19 am
The front 7 is stout and they’re working well now in BAs defense. I hope they find a way to keep the D-line in tact. Fill some holes in the D backfield, draft a RB to pair with ROJO, and get some help along the O-line, either through the draft or FA. I love Brate, but if it’s Brate or JPP, it makes sense to keep JPP. Brate just isn’t being used in BA’s offense to warrant his salary.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:31 am
Boy some of the commenters here sure are influenced by some whimsical social media posts. And you all do realize that players and agents use any means necessary to apply pressure and create leverage…right…folks. Anyway…
Beasley is soft, was soft coming out of college…mistake pick by Dimitroff. Poor idea in this column, for sure.
And Nelson is not…ready.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:42 am
JPP moved out of tampa per his Snapchat timeline yesterday, so I think that ship has sailed.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:45 am
Adrnagy Says:
January 24th, 2020 at 10:41 am
Nelso is ready to go. One year under him with jpp. Suh etc. exp. ready to go.
Vic will be a beast in Todd scheme. Let’s do it. Don’t pay shaq. Let’s get other cheap $ players. And sign Winston to 30M
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The above is how Winston knob gobblers think. They complain about no defense then want to ditch shaq so they can sign their idol. Sick sick people. Cro Magnon man is probably smarter then these weirdos. They’re like a cult. Whack jobs all of you.
January 24th, 2020 at 11:45 am
@ Wyoming
I felt it was information that was appropriate to share here. There is nothing “whimsical” about it. Calm down. No need to be a dic#head…
January 24th, 2020 at 11:58 am
What a bunch of idiotic remarks. Don’t sign Shaq. Give 30mil. to Winston. OMG what a bunch of crap. T REX: That is about the dumbest remark I’ve ever read.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:04 pm
@ Bucernutter
Agreed. I hope he stays. I figured this was just part of his negotiation tactic. Show me the money or I’m fine moving on…
January 24th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
LOL PASS
January 24th, 2020 at 12:08 pm
Wyoming
I think you’re the one that overthought that ha.
Marine
Yep, this is standard procedure. He just knows its most likely his last payday. Fact he spoke about it shows he’s gonna negotiate.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:17 pm
Trex
And we way you think is the way the Bucs been losing the last 10 years.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:17 pm
I’d rather have JPP. If JPP leaves, our 1st Round pick should be an edge rusher. Personally, I’d like to see us draft an edge rusher with our 1st or 2nd (maybe Curtis Weaver, if he’s still on the board) even if JPP is back.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:19 pm
TOM
Nobody said don’t sign shaq. WTF are you talking about. If you find yourself agreeing with T Rex, then you already look dumb.
Do you guys not understand the going rate for a starting qb is roughly 30 mil? LOL If he signs he’s getting roughly 30 million wherever he ends up.
Talk about idiotic remarks.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:19 pm
Trex ..
Give me something else … not your sensible emotional side. What a marshmallow.
Sentimental.lol.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:22 pm
No!
January 24th, 2020 at 12:23 pm
I would prefer JPP…but I’m not sure JPP wants to return.
If there is no way to keep JPP, Beasley might be a good replacement. His value is around $6-7 million per year. JPP would be close to double that.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:23 pm
We could of had JPP for 2020 for 12 million. Why did our GM re-work his contract, dumb move.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:30 pm
“Releasing JPP out of his contract
JASON GUMP!!!
Trying to stay ahead of the curve…LOL
The only proactive is Gumps receding hairline and the only curve is that huge gut
STOP trying to be smart
This clown is in charge of the groceries?
Kobe is going intermittent fasting”
Kobe Keto Faker
January 24th, 2020 at 12:36 pm
@ Joe in Mich.
I agree. If we draft a pass rusher I’ve seen AJ Epenesa mentioned a few times on early mock drafts. He is probably the second best pass rusher in the draft.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:44 pm
AJ looks good, along with several other pass rushers that could be there at 14. AJ has enough size to where he can rush from the inside, too (like JPP did, or does, depending on if he’s back).
January 24th, 2020 at 12:57 pm
The thing I think about when signing a free agent from another team…How many FA’s has Tampa Bay signed that have went to Florida “to retire”? Meaning they want the money, but no longer want to play football. The list is far too long to mention all, but think about Anthony Collins. That’s why I’d rather resign JPP than replace him with any other FA. We already know that JPP loves football and his heart is in it. That my opinion, anyway.
January 24th, 2020 at 12:58 pm
*That’s*
January 24th, 2020 at 1:00 pm
JPP is a big reason for the turn around
He brought a different mind set
WINNING
Never Quite
January 24th, 2020 at 1:23 pm
Um JPP broke his f***in neck. If he didn’t heal up miraculously, then you guys would be mad. Especially if we committed to 2020 and he couldn’t play.
SMH COME ON GUYS!
January 24th, 2020 at 1:46 pm
pay jpp, barratt, nassib, and let suh walk or get him on the down low
January 24th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
you sign a guy like this off the enemy squad and then he meets up with koetter and gang to receive a huge briefcase of paper to mess everything up for the new team…sometimes the enemy gets paid twice and brings you down…
#DoubleAgent #HeavyBriefcaseScenarios
January 24th, 2020 at 2:38 pm
🙂
January 24th, 2020 at 2:40 pm
the problem in sports is everyone is cheating now…
so give players briefcases…make sure everyone is signed…and make sure everyone is happy…
#TheBriefcaseLife #DoItByTheBay
January 24th, 2020 at 3:16 pm
I hope this is one of those throwing crap against the wall scenarios? I’d hate to think you’re actually proposing this. Dude you really have a hang up on JPP and Barrett. I know you didn’t choose or endorse them but c’mon lay off the Storm beer for awhile. These guys were able to do everything you whined about during the draft. So soak it in buttercup and be happy.
January 24th, 2020 at 4:56 pm
Buccernutter
Attacking someone else and their intelligence again tonight? You Winstonites are a trip dude. There are a lot of you in that cult that like to insult people without cause. Read the posts before you open that cock trap to call someone dumb. @Admagy said dump Shaq, give JW3 the $30+ million, and some other crap about the replacements. Another Winstonite pushing the same narrative, year 6 will be different. What were you calling me last night? Insulting me because I said what? There are SO MANY of you degrading people I can’t keep track of ALL your names. Glad to make my point, in any case, even if a few bottom feeders like to talk chit.
January 24th, 2020 at 5:58 pm
Get FAMOUS paid and everything else will fall into place.!!!
January 24th, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Big stinky
Dude you said Mike Glennon is a good QB! 😂😂😂😂😂 Your merit has been gone.
You missed the part where I insulted someone who was insulting others first. I never initiate it. You are completely oblivious if you think Winston supporters are more malicious than Winston haters.
Stop whining. Your contributions to the articles are just dumb so you’re insecure.
Don’t bull**** people like you don’t insult people too.
January 24th, 2020 at 6:06 pm
Kinda weird big stinky jumped at the opportunity to insult me when he saw me insulting someone who insulted someone first. Ironic really. Not to mention it was a long paragraph…a day later.
But ya man. Mike Glennon.
January 25th, 2020 at 3:21 am
To me, JPP is our second highest priority behind Shaq. Since we will have so much cap space why not sign those two and Beasley? There is no such thing as having too many good pass rushers.
January 25th, 2020 at 9:05 am
Suh will retire this off-season you heard it here first
January 25th, 2020 at 5:18 pm
Buccernutter
Damnit Brother! Figured you would not see what I wrote, or anyone else for that matter. That chit was wrong though and you needed to be called out for it. Nothing ironic about what I did or said. Let me start by saying I hope you are expecting a reply from me and come back to see this tomorrow since you said my post 4 1/2 hours later was the next day.
Better start a new paragraph so you don’t get lost, since you seem to think 10 sentences is a long paragraph. Short attention span I’m afraid. Explains a lot actually. Explains why you are CLUELESS as to why I called you out in the first place. Come on man, I actually thought you were smarter than that from a couple of your posts but guess not. Do you really think I would tell you not to open your d*** sucker for calling someone else dumb? I think not sir.
Who the hell were you talking to in your second post, Joe maybe? Pretty funny all the same. I bet you need a friend to back you up, like last night with JimmyJack needing to assure you that Winston was a good QB. That was PRICELESS!!! And now I’m insecure because my contributions to the articles are dumb. Who the f**k made you judge and jury of my contributions to articles on JBF??? GTFOH!!! That 2nd post and you needing assurance last night both SCREAM insecurity however.
How old are you anyway? The emoji to express what you were feeling pretty much says you are under 18 I bet or a little bit on the feminine side otherwise. Men over 20 or so would ONLY emoji a woman any kind of feeling, usually a heart BTW. Do you see any grown men on here doing that fem crap? That was the first time I remember seeing an emoji in a post. Have to make you look at this post after all this to find out your age now. Can’t be too hard on a kid that thinks he knows it all and doesn’t even realize what he’s done. Joe wouldn’t like that…
I didn’t miss anything you did but read what was said again anyway because I thought I might have to apologise to you because that’s what grown men do. Don’t know why, I knew what you did to begin with, but caught you doing something worse. Are you really that much of a piece of chit to not even apologise to someone when you’re wrong? I am trying to keep my cool because I was thinking you STILL don’t get what you’ve done but reading you say I missed the part you may know already. Did you even read the posts again or are you that lazy to look and see?
You seem to like to twist chit around by the sound of it though. When you posted to me you said I missed what you did and in the 2nd post, to God I guess, it was kinda weird and ironic that I jumped at the opportunity to insult you after seeing what you did. So did I miss it or not you freaking basket case. Try focusing for more than 2 seconds if you can. You obviously don’t remember what you said just 3 minutes earlier so I can be pretty certain you have no clue what you even did. Why couldn’t your lazy ass just read the posts like I told you and apologise to the dude?
So let me get this straight, it’s okay for you to insult people because they insult other people for stating an opinion? Oh yeah, you think you have final say on people’s comments like ALL mine are dumb so I’m insecure, right d**khead? I know, stop whining, huh arsehole? Never bullchitted ANYONE, period!!!! It was clearly obvious that I will insult you back because I did it to you. And I could tell you didn’t like it now, did you? Just like I don’t like your little female dog comments to me. And that little shemale is just what I think of you at this moment.
I was going to agree with you about signing JPP first because he broke the double digit sack drought since Simeon. Was also gonna give you Kudos for setting that dumbass straight on JPP breaking his neck but then you blew it. Dude, you actually attacked a guy for NO reason and think you did NOTHING wrong. I merely tried to defend him and thought you would do the right thing and apologize. Wondering if you ever will when it’s clear to you? So you claim that you NEVER initiate it and think you are innocent by saying that to me. You Sir, are a liar.
It’s undisputed between us that you initiated it with me for an opinion but hey, it’s all about the narrative with you Winstonites. Hell, your previous statement you ADMIT you initiate it when you insult someone that insulted someone else. That, by definition, is initiating something with someone. Come on man!!! Do you know what any of the words you are using means? Ironic, oblivious, initiate, or whining. I’m NOT whining you little b***h and you deserve this.
Stop thinking you need to comment to EVERY person who has a different opinion than yours because you suck at admitting you are wrong. Your opinion doesn’t make you right unless you can prove it to someone, with FACTS, which I rarely see from you BTW. Your opinion doesn’t TRUMP everyone else’s just because your ego says I am ALWAYS right. That’s why there are debates which I welcome if you are ever interested after this with that Glennon chit you are hounding me with. Now for why your cocky little ass should apologize.
Buccernutter
January 24, 2020 at 12:19 pm
TOM
Nobody said don’t sign shaq. WTF are you talking about If you find yourself agreeing with T-Rex you already look dumb
I cannot believe I have to hold your hand and walk you through this. Told you to look up the posts before you speak. None of what you said to him was true and you said you NEVER initiate it. Again, YOU are a liar Sir. Congratulations for insulting someone that insulted someone else as you claim!!!! Exactly who do you think you were defending with that attack? You had no clue what was said to start with and should have looked when you thought no one said don’t sign shaq but off you went with that d**ksucker. It was said by Admagy as I showed you when I called you out so look it up yourself dumbass. It was clearly reposted by T-Rex if you had looked. And poor TOM took the assault for what exactly? Because he didn’t agree with you that JW3 should get 30 million I guess. I didn’t put the part of your post claiming QB’S make 30 million for starting cause I could debate that if needed. As for TOM’S post!!!
TOM Says
January 24, 2020 at 11:58 am
What a bunch of idiotic remarks. Don’t sign Shaq. Give 30 mil. to Winston. OMG what a bunch of crap. T Rex: That is about the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
You are ONE of the lazy people on this site for a FACT. Next time pay more attention to what you say to someone instead of going off half cocked. Not sure what set you off actually but you didn’t even read his whole post. Talk about oblivious people, with an agenda too. SO, you basically insulted TOM and he agrees with you STUPID, on everything you believe except the $30 million. I disagree with your evaluation of JW3 worth and I’m insecure, right? You won’t EVER apologize to him for what you did and I would bet money on it too. All those little bitch ass remarks you made to me for pointing out you were WRONG for what you did. You were pretty proud of you bringing out the Devil in people is what you told JimmyJack the other night as I remember. Probably because you do chit like what you did to TOM. That innocent act don’t work so well unless you apologize to him. I will even apologize to you if I am wrong about you. I don’t REALLY have a beef with you but wish more people knew what you’ve done. I’m sure they would agree that you should apologize though. Catch you next time. Please don’t ban me Joe for this. I know this clown means more to your site than I do. God knows he has a lot more posts with ALL the people he insults. I will apologize though when he does to TOM. Funny thing is I don’t care about him apologizing to me. His opinions are just that. I’m sure he will have some smart ass remarks for me though so I guess we will see. Rant over thank God. Awaiting moderation time. Probably will NEVER post either.
January 26th, 2020 at 12:54 am
Jpp and Shaq! End of discussion.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:48 am
Big Stinky
Don’t be offended but I didn’t read your post. Mostly because I’m sure it’s full of immature insults. I mean you some of the s*** you said last time was the corniest things I’ve ever read.
I also just wanted to say you think mike glennon is a good qb so I really don’t respect your opinion. Or you to be honest. I’m trying not to engage with people that are much dumber than myself.
Anyways have a good day! Oh and, f*** you!