Labor Deal Progression Could Complicate Jameis Options
January 27th, 2020
Yes, the Bucs might be able to franchise tag Shaq Barrett and slap a transition tag on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, for the 2020 season. But that’s only assured if nothing changes on the NFL labor front.
The current players-owners deal ends following the 2020 season, and there are “final year” clauses that allow teams to use both tags in the season season, only if its the “final year.” ESPN wrote all about it last year.
That’s good news because it represents flexibility for the Bucs, however, the NFL and the players appear to be moving toward reaching a new agreement before the start of the new NFL year in mid-March.
NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport talked about the progress this morning on WDAE radio, and he referenced the upcoming Thursday meetings of all team representatives of the players union. Ali Marpet is the Bucs’ voted representative; Lavonte David is the alternate.
Other reports have claimed the league and the players are close to knocking out a new deal. So Joe hardly believes this is all smoke. The NFL is a cash cow and, hopefully, both sides learned from the asinine lockout of 2011.
Suppose the Bucs can only use the franchise tag for 2020? How would they proceed?
January 27th, 2020 at 11:02 am
They be ballin’; check your sheets.
Peace,out
January 27th, 2020 at 11:06 am
Suppose there is a Floor “Franchise” Salary Exempt from the Cap?
January 27th, 2020 at 11:06 am
It’s to bad the bucs can’t trade Winston and find a quality qb
January 27th, 2020 at 11:06 am
Another reason to make the decision this offseason. I believe we will be hanging on this decision until the 11th hour.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:13 am
Franchise Barrett. Jameis you either give him a long term contract or you let him walk and get a comp pick. There is no reason you franchise Winston, so you are back making the same decision in 2021. You might be able to sign Jameis for around 27 million. After the new CBA, the cap will skyrocket and it will cost around 35 million to sign Jameis. Sign him to a contract or start over now, let’s not do this again in 2021!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 11:15 am
Would it not just be easier to draft a new QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And for those that like the truth!!!!!!! Fitz and ATM splitting time in 2018 had more passing TD’s, more passing yards, and less Interceptions then ATM’s 2019 season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 11:25 am
If they can not negotiate a new contract with Jamies that is acceptable to both sides the Bucs may have no other choice put to franchise or transition him.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:26 am
R.O. Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 11:06 am
Suppose there is a Floor “Franchise” Salary Exempt from the Cap?
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Jameis does NOT even belong in franchise tag salary range…he should be valued as a starting caliber NFL QB….priced with those guys…
January 27th, 2020 at 11:43 am
Pay Jameis.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:44 am
This makes no sense…..either the option is there in the current contract which ends….or it’s not. If they have a new agreement are we saying that the option will be taken out?……I suspect not…..or, there would never be a “final year”.
January 27th, 2020 at 11:54 am
@Realisto,
you left out how the 2018 team gave up 57 TD’s with less TO’s by the offense.
January 27th, 2020 at 12:07 pm
@TBBF
I agree. Surely this would not go into effect until 2021. If they did mutually decide to void the final year and start the new deal…I do not see how they could do anything but keep the franchise tags through 2020 even if they void the rest of the deal.
Teams have been planning too many personnel moves based on this “franchise tag” ability.
January 27th, 2020 at 12:19 pm
Pay the man $30 million who can’t win in December, can’t protect the football, and can’t beat Brett Hundley.
– Lost in Hope
January 27th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
I think if that is the rule that is in place now and teams are making decisions predicated on that rule for this upcoming season, then, even if their is a new CBA agreement, that rule will be adopted (grandfathered in) for the 2020 season. Why would the NFL intentionally move the goal post and hurt teams that were ready to use both tags?
January 27th, 2020 at 12:32 pm
Once again, I will say it. The team should try to avoid any tags, and they are not needed here. Low ball Winston and let him talk to other teams. They will not pay him more than $10-12M per year. He will come back and take a 2-3 year deal happily at total cost of $35M and less over three years total. Draft a QB…and talk to FAs like Rivers. Sign Shaq up, period. Long term.
January 27th, 2020 at 12:44 pm
why are we still reading about this a$$ clown.
cut ties, move on and lets win some games!
January 27th, 2020 at 12:45 pm
why are we still reading about this a$$ clown.
cut ties, move on and lets win some games!
January 27th, 2020 at 12:59 pm
I said several years ago that back to back franchise tags will be out. It’s a line in the sand with the players. If we franchise anyone, they hit the open market the next year.
In the Buc’s favor, a lot of teams are looking to get a quarterback; even teams like the Raiders are apparently looking around. As far as I can tell there isn’t any Winston talk at any of these places.
That may be because no one thinks we are actually going to let Jameis walk. Still, if he’s holding out for big dollars thinking there will be a lot of suitors in FA, he may be rethinking that now.
January 27th, 2020 at 1:05 pm
If the NFLPA was smart they’d insist on no franchise or transition tag. Those are ridiculous. A guy makes 30 million a year but doesn’t get to choose where he works? Sure we’ll pay ’em but we won’t let ’em leave the plantation…
January 27th, 2020 at 1:17 pm
El Buco Realisto Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 11:15 am
Would it not just be easier to draft a new QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And for those that like the truth!!!!!!! Fitz and ATM splitting time in 2018 had more passing TD’s, more passing yards, and less Interceptions then ATM’s 2019 season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7WINS2019>5wins2018!!!!!!!!
i see smitty is still teaching you football…..and you still dont know sh!t!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!
January 27th, 2020 at 1:44 pm
Robert Says:
“why are we still reading about this a$$ clown.”
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Who? YOU?
Good question.
You keep posting the crap, and we keep reading it.
January 27th, 2020 at 2:10 pm
To answer the question: Franchise Jameis, sign Shaq to a multi-year deal, and get on with it. And if the organization doesn’t believe that Jameis is the long-term solution (answered in 2021), draft a QB to groom under BA’s tutelage.
January 27th, 2020 at 3:31 pm
“Sure we’ll pay ’em but we won’t let ’em leave the plantation…”
pay me 30 mill, I’ll stay on the plantation and do whatever you ask of me.
HAPPILY!
GTFO with that slave racist bs.
January 27th, 2020 at 3:40 pm
No you sign everybody else first then if theres 1 million left you offer that to jameis or he walks the plank.
January 27th, 2020 at 4:43 pm
Bring in the scrubs…
Little known QB Randy Davis of Eastern Winnipeg College of Theatrical Arts will lead us to a Super Bowl win.
January 27th, 2020 at 4:45 pm
Lokog Says:
January 27th, 2020 at 3:40 pm
No you sign everybody else first then if theres 1 million left you offer that to jameis or he walks the plank.
^ +1000
January 27th, 2020 at 5:23 pm
Franchise Shaq over SHAMELESS! I want a defense again over offense. Gump WILL franchise every Winstonites FAVORITE quarterback and POOF I just became a Niners fan. Why you ask? Did I just jump on the bandwagon? Hell no!!!!!! I am a DIE HARD Buccaneer fan STUPID!!!! Ask Joe, he knows why, right? Not REALLY sure I should bother to tell you if you STILL think what we have is a QB. I’ll take Garapolo over Winston. Hell, maybe I can join Ira and become a Chief’s fan since they haven’t been to the Super Bowl in 50, yes I said 50 years. Patrick effing Mahommes too. A true FRANCHISE quarterback mofo’s. Like Mr Tom Brady baby. He is going to start for at LEAST 7 or 8 too. Just like SHAMELESS will TOO I bet, and THAT is NOT cool. I am JUST wondering though, if he EVER had to compete at FSU to start? Never has here so I guess it doesn’t matter at this point. I want to see what a DIFFERENT quarterback looks like in Arians offense in his FIRST year but NOPE. Instead, I am FORCED to ACCEPT that damn SHAMELESS quarterback we have. If my GM doesn’t do EXACTLY what I want I will fire him for it and that’s how it SHOULD be to me. Owners get to do it, why can’t I? My GM is changing!!!! It will be the SAME crap next year. A coach and GM and SHAMELESS after his 5th year option FAILED miserably and what happened next. Hello Jimmy. Hello Patrick. Who do I want? This is CRAZY as hell and I can’t believe I can do this like ALL you Winstonites do. Who to pick is the question though, since I don’t COVET my college QB that started Day 1 as the starter. He didn’t even have to COMPETE. Tough decision indeed!!! Less than a week to root with Ira or against.
January 27th, 2020 at 5:38 pm
If they did change the rule, I doubt if it would be activated until next year
January 27th, 2020 at 5:44 pm
You KNOW what I really want to see at this point. Glennon and SHAMELESS next year but I want Glennon to play ALL year. JUST like SHAMELESS did and NEVER get benched throwing ALL those effing interceptions. Karma bitch! Yeah, you were BALLIN’ all right. Give Glennon a shot and compare numbers. Don’t EXPECT your job after that I think. Take a pay cut or get Glennon from Chucky. He knows QB’S too supposedly.
January 27th, 2020 at 9:28 pm
Mr. reality, you can’t seriously expect Jameis to only make $10-12M next year? Worst case is $20 if everybody gets skittish… but more likely is he makes $27 off the tag here or hits the open market and gets $30 multi-year. You’re living in a dream world.
Big stinky, its not nice to wish Glennon on anybody… but checkdown every down would definitely give Bruce a heart attack. Think of his grandchildren!