Aaron Rodgers, Jameis & 44 Percent
January 19th, 2020
Among the least popular stats at One Buc Palace is punter Bradley Pinion having the 32nd-ranked net punting average in the NFL this season.
That’s somewhat comical because Bucco Bruce Arians, back in March, said Pinion was the top free agent signing for Tampa Bay.
Today on ESPN, there was a lot of chatter about Aaron Rodgers leading up to the NFC Championship game. And a focus was on the Packers punting on a whopping 44 percent of drives. Forty-four!
It was said that Rodgers understands the value of the punt game versus taking risk, and that’s why the percentage is so high. Rodgers only threw four interceptions versus 26 touchdowns this regular season, plus a couple of TDs and no picks last Sunday against Seattle.
Of course, that got Joe thinking about Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback. He’s no fan of punting, preferring to take much more risk than Rodgers. Jameis simply will not go all Mike Glennon 2013 and welcome the punter with open arms.
Clearly, the Bucs want Jameis to be more judicious with the football. But how will they get that through to Jameis?
Perhaps Jameis will be inspired today by watching Rodgers, a guy whose mold Dirk Koetter told Jameis he was in. Enjoy that flashback Hard Knocks take below.
January 19th, 2020 at 2:53 pm
Nobody wants Jameis to go Mike Glennon.
We just prefer that he takes less risks and makes better decisions.
Unless he is with another team! Then I say continue the Jameis errors of the past.
January 19th, 2020 at 2:58 pm
Well I will never bet another penny on a NFL game again but I almost wanna break my rule and take the Packers today. Guessing they are a decent dog today. As always experience is overlooked in these game but usually plays a large factor.
I’d actually love to see 49ers vs Chiefs Super Bowl(offense vs defense) but I Don’t think the 49ers have a shot to rival the experience factor.
Also it’s been my experience that the spread is a sucker bet. At least for me. I have much better luck on the money line. Bucs actually was a decent bet for me this year til somebody somewhere cheated me and them and all of you in Tennessee.
January 19th, 2020 at 2:59 pm
How do they get that through to Jameis? Seriously? They won’t.
So I add to my previous assertions that Arians is really just full of it. And this loser club is acting like they are betting it all of on the words of BA. What little faith I have left in the Bucs includes that the Glazers, who are pretty sad, do get it on a business perspective their BA hire has not paid off they way they’d hoped.
Now, at 3:05pm, we watch a team the Bucs should have beaten, were it not for Jamies L. Winston and his three turnovers. They won that game because their QB took care of the rock. Tannehill is not as gifted at Winston…but when you take care of the football, you have a better chance of getting to post season. This will never happen with a Winston team.
Those who want to blame it on routes and refs. Save it. No team that wins makes those lame excuses.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:00 pm
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January 19th, 2020 at 3:00 pm
Jimmy Jack, if you had two dimes to rub together I’d hope you would buy a Bucs ticket and have some skin in the game. Oh yeah, like you are a player that bets. GTFOH. LOL.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Last week 8 QBs played.
4 Total INTs were thrown.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
When has Jameis “won” a game other than the box score and Stat sheet….LOL…
January 19th, 2020 at 3:08 pm
And THIS is why Buccaneers opponents started within the Bucs 30 yard line 15 times!!! Kinda hard to stop points when they’re already within fg range. Not defending the defense but why put an already bad defense in that position?
Some here think that ints don’t matter when you throw 40 tds, oops, I mean 33 (forgot we don’t count the pick 6’s). It does matter and that is one of many reasons why the Bucs missed the playoffs.
Things Bucs need to do to win:
1. Stop the turnovers.
2. Get younger on both lines (mainly defense)
3. Run game.
4. Veteran safety.
5. Get better on special teams!
January 19th, 2020 at 3:12 pm
Jameis isn’t concerned with learning from anyone…
Sense his tone when he said ‘he is ballin’…
He thinks to highly of himself to be coached!
January 19th, 2020 at 3:15 pm
Philip Rivers has moved from San Diego to Florida
January 19th, 2020 at 3:19 pm
Yes let’s look at percentages of possessions. The Bucs had drivers end with punts 57 times Field goal attempts 35 times, and turnovers 41 times. That’s 30%of Bucs possessions ending in turnovers. Guess what, that’s not winning football.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:25 pm
Dilfer’s teams punted a lot.
Punting is not a virtue.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:33 pm
Mr Reality if you think I’m lying that’s fine. I’m here to talk footba. You have your fun trolling.
January 19th, 2020 at 3:54 pm
Rogers plays a whole and complete game. He doesn’t get rushed into trying to take more than the defense wants to give him. He has faith in his guys, though no one else does, to make key plays.
Jameis is frenetic and seems to only play one series at a time. I have never seen him play a whole and complete game. At best he can play a half. The few times he started well he came up with horrid second halves. Can anyone say 69 yards in the second half.
We already know about when he starts bad. He explodes the second half, even though the team has no chance. That is one of the reasons I would rather not ever see him in a Bucs uniform again.
January 19th, 2020 at 4:29 pm
Time to take a punter in the first round!
January 19th, 2020 at 4:47 pm
Any comparison of JayMiss to Rodgers is pure fantasy.
One is a turnover plagued back of the pack QB and the other already won a Super Bowl.
The only way JayMiss gets to a Super Bowl is buying a general admission ticket.
Peace, out.
January 19th, 2020 at 4:49 pm
The Pewter reviews of all of #3’s pics was very revealing.I agree with Carson Palmer.#3 will do better his 2nd year in Arian’s offense .
January 19th, 2020 at 5:04 pm
Looks to me most of his picks aren’t desperation throws on third on long, about to take a sack, etc, ….he is usually sitting comfortably in the pocket, and makes an inexplicable decision.
January 19th, 2020 at 5:32 pm
I cannot wait for the ATM jameis to be gone from this team so the team can move on and fire licht and build a winning competitive team
January 19th, 2020 at 5:37 pm
Maybe Jamies can watch Mahomes and see what a spiral looks like
Maybe he can watch and see how to read a defense
You are right Joe everyone hung up on one stat INT
But Jamies problems are much bigger than that
January 19th, 2020 at 6:07 pm
How about the Jameis and Jeff George comparison?
January 19th, 2020 at 6:11 pm
Of course Jameis is used to lousy defense and horrible punters, so………………………..
January 19th, 2020 at 6:11 pm
Mahomes..about 300 yards, three TD’s, no turnovers. I’d have sworn it was Jameis QB’ing in KC today. But since he didn’t get over 300 yards, it can’t be. We love yardage. Wins? Whats a win?
January 19th, 2020 at 6:13 pm
So Jameis’s interception rate helps create a lousy D….right? And horrible punter? Horrible QB. So what are you saying?
January 19th, 2020 at 6:17 pm
Actually Tannihill had zero interceptions and two TD’s…and Tenn came close. But who cares about Ints? As long as you are ballin’, it means nothing. I’d rather have a QB that is ballin’ than win games…right?
January 19th, 2020 at 6:41 pm
Tye Says:
January 19th, 2020 at 3:12 pm
Jameis isn’t concerned with learning from anyone…
Sense his tone when he said ‘he is ballin’…
He thinks to highly of himself to be coached!
Tye do you think maybe he is just getting tired of getting blamed for this train reck of a team and just finally defended himself? You have no idea what he was thinking but as usual you just make some ridiculous comment like it’s fact. YOU are the reason people like me exist to present the other side.
January 19th, 2020 at 7:23 pm
Agreed that PR’s “analysis” of #3’s picks was revealing… of how far REALLY smart people will go to rationalize what they see with what they believe. The eyes don’t lie… Jameis is not 100% blameless for a tipped pick when receivers are jumping up and back to adjust to his poor ball placement… unless you are trying desperately to believe Bruce’s version of reality wrt Jameis. The irony is that I’m beginning to wonder if Bruce really believes all that Blameless Jameis talk or was just trying to prop up his starter until…
January 19th, 2020 at 7:45 pm
Aaron Rodgers have been in the league for 15 years and just fumbled the ball in an NFC championship game. What a bust.
January 19th, 2020 at 7:49 pm
Aaron Rodgers has fumbled the ball twice in a NFC championship game!
January 19th, 2020 at 7:50 pm
Westchap…Arians is a good manager/coach. You always try to praise in public and blame in private. And sometimes you slant things to get the most out of an employee. Basic Management. Unfortunately, I’m afraid many posters haven’t had that experience..or training. And I said when you hear Arians call out Jameis in private, he is on the way out. He came close to that, but still left the door open.
January 19th, 2020 at 7:52 pm
Further West…what is to be gained by calling Winston out in public…nothing. But there is a point where you can’t “polish a T”, And you have to be more transparent.
January 19th, 2020 at 7:55 pm
Two fumbles and one interception for Rodgers in a NFC championship game after being in league for fifteen years! You would think he would be better at his craft.
January 19th, 2020 at 8:00 pm
Two touchdowns off Aaron Rodgers turnovers in the NFC championship game.
January 19th, 2020 at 8:14 pm
Relax everyone Winston will be under center next season.
January 19th, 2020 at 8:17 pm
Even the Super Bowl Winning Former Buccaneers QB Club member Steve Young says we should commit to Winston.
January 19th, 2020 at 9:36 pm
Aaron Rodgers lost the game.
January 19th, 2020 at 9:53 pm
WestChap Says:
January 19th, 2020 at 7:23 pm
Agreed that PR’s “analysis” of #3’s picks was revealing… of how far REALLY smart people will go to rationalize what they see with what they believe. The eyes don’t lie… Jameis is not 100% blameless for a tipped pick when receivers are jumping up and back to adjust to his poor ball placement… unless you are trying desperately to believe Bruce’s version of reality wrt Jameis. The irony is that I’m beginning to wonder if Bruce really believes all that Blameless Jameis talk or was just trying to prop up his starter until…
This crap about see this is what people who have common sense can’t stand. Just cause you don’t want to believe it doesn’t make not real.
January 20th, 2020 at 12:01 am
Winston has been taught two things with this team.
1. Don’t count on the defense. There they were at the end of the Falcons game and couldn’t choke them out. And that was a good defensive performance. How about gaggin up a gazillion yards to Daniel Fargin Jones in the second half of the Giants game? So Will stinston goes out and hits a bomb. Kicker comes in and shanks the chip shot so bad I thought they would cut him the next day for that kind of gag under pressure.
which brings me to
2. Can’t trust the Bucs kicker.
You give that man these two ingredients, and until he really believes those tow flaws are fixed, he’ll keep making some high risk throws.
The D looks much improved.
The Kicker?
Nope. I’m actually alright moving on from the big legged choke artist now but realize there are a lot of BYU fans around that think he’s great. So — open competition sure. Against like 10 others.
He chokes. Watch the Giants game. The Atlanta game. Nothing to do with south endzone. Everything to do with gag reflex.
January 20th, 2020 at 12:46 am
Half of you guys are crazy. Do you not watch the games. Do you not watch the right to a defender interceptions that are thrown. Joe and half of you act like that is a gloss over stat. No he literally loses us 5 -7 games a year with his turnovers. You really think that a QBs is thinking while he is reading a defense and scanning the field that he has to try and throw this pass to a double covered receiver because his defense stinks. When he drops back to pass he is thinking about nothing but the play and the routes sees it and throws he has 2.6 seconds to throw the ball. And you guys really think he is in that little of time thinking about his defense the kicker the punter. The QB position is a read and react position nothing else affects it besides what defense they see on that play. And if after 5 years he can’t see and react to defenses good enough to not throw 30 interceptions the last being an nfl record for pick 6s in a we lose the game in a walk off fashion the receiving team wins 70% of the time and we lost with a 70% advantage on the first play. If you really think we fans need to suffer another year through that because he is the greatest garbage time QBs in nfl history you are sadly mistaken. His stats are so overblown do to the fact we are always playing from behind. But the biggest reason we are playing from behind is because he is always 8-17 93 yards 2 interceptions one for a pick 6 by halftime. It seems like every game we are down 17-0 because of him but make it interesting at the end because he plays great against prevent defense. Then it gets tight they switch back to man or zone and he throws another pick to end it. Why can’t the normal fan see this. Break down for you zone or man normal defense interceptions galore low completion percentage. Team switches to prevent high yardage and td stats. Team switches back to man zone back to horrible completion percentage and turnovers. I bet without looking jameis has the best 3rd quarter stats for a QBs since he came in the league. And bottom three in the other three quarters except 2nd quarter may be hit there to. But to start and finish a game horrible. Year half of you guys still defend him and want him back. Like I said before if he was a 6th round pick from Iowa he would have been run out of town years ago. But a first round pick from FSU buys him 5 years. Trust me he is gone he wants 30 million we will put transition tag on him and get picks from another team for him. Then they will be the toast of the town because all the sudden he makes their team better then by week 8 they will be saying the same thing if we can cut the turnover down he will be great.
January 20th, 2020 at 5:01 am
2 INTs + 2 fumbles and a bunch of garbage time yards for Aaron Rodgers today … he’s a loser with a worse QBR than Jameis.
January 20th, 2020 at 7:32 am
You guys are so funny… you think Jameis doesn’t trust the kicker and D? He only trusts his arm…that is why he has been slow to change his game. Why would you think he sits on the bench and says… I have to score a TD because of the Kicker… or D? He likely thinks.. “time to go ballin'”.
January 20th, 2020 at 7:32 am
Jimmy jack, how’d your packers do yesterday. Hope you blew a check! You might as well bet the opposite of every initial feeling you get. F outta here
January 20th, 2020 at 7:37 am
No JWDS…that wasn’t a normal game for Rodgers. It was an average game for JW.
January 20th, 2020 at 9:16 am
Most of Jameis’s picks weren’t because he was taking chances. Look at all his pick sixes, most came on simple out routes, or what JW has always been bad at not seeing the linebackers watching his eyes throwing simple passes over the middle. Fans have it all wrong, he’s not a gunslinger trying to throw into tight windows. Jameis just can’t make the right reads, stares down his receivers, and isn’t the most accurate QB in the league. He throws all those picks because he’s a choker, and doesn’t learn from his mistakes.
January 20th, 2020 at 11:54 am
lol at being inspired by that performance from Rodgers…
Packers got their asses handed to them last night by the niners