With The 18th Pick In The 2020 NFL Draft …
December 23rd, 2019That tough Tampa Bay schedule this season is biting them in the ass.
With a 7-8 record, the Bucs are tied with the Raiders, Colts, Bears and Cowboys. But since the Bucs have played a tougher strength of schedule than all those teams, Tampa Bay would lose the draft-order tiebreaker with all of them if the season ended today.
Tampa Bay now sits holding the No. 18 overall pick.
The Falcons (6-9) currently has the No. 13 slot, and the Bucs face surging Atlanta on Sunday at the Den of Depression to close the season.
Last year, the Bucs tried their best to beat the Falcons in the finale in Tampa, but the Bucs coughed up a lead late and the loss gave them a 5-11 record and the No. 5 overall pick.
No, Joe doesn’t expect the Bucs to lose intentionally on Sunday, and Joe also expects Atlanta to go full-tilt after a “W” to help save their coach’s job.
2020 NFL Draft order (before MNF)
PICK | TEAM | RECORD | SOS |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Bengals | 1-14 | 0.571 |
2 | Redskins | 3-12 | 0.500 |
3 | Lions | 3-11-1 | 0.489 |
4 | Giants | 4-11 | 0.466 |
5 | Dolphins | 4-11 | 0.471 |
6 | Jaguars | 5-10 | 0.484 |
7 | Chargers | 5-10 | 0.496 |
8 | Panthers | 5-10 | 0.529 |
9 | Cardinals | 5-9-1 | 0.531 |
10 | Jets | 6-9 | 0.462 |
11 | Broncos | 6-9 | 0.522 |
12 | Browns | 6-9 | 0.558 |
13 | Falcons | 6-9 | 0.560 |
14 | Raiders | 7-8 | 0.478 |
15 | Raiders (from CHI) | 7-8 | 0.495 |
16 | Cowboys | 7-8 | 0.496 |
17 | Colts | 7-8 | 0.498 |
18 | Buccaneers | 7-8 | 0.507 |
19 | Dolphins (from PIT) | 8-7 | 0.478 |
20 | Jaguars (from LAR) | 8-7 | 0.549 |
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:03 am
…………..they’ll draft a tackle
then a QB in the 2nd rd
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:05 am
Who cares? Good GMs and good scouting departments find players in every round. But the Bucs have Licht and his bad scouting department and will still whiff on 5-6 picks
Give me wins in Sept to Dec not in April
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:07 am
Qb Hurts from OK. Might be able to grab him in the second though. Yeter Gross- Matos, EDGE from Penn State, would be a good pick up. Kinlaw, DT from South Carolina would be good. Leatherwood from Bama can play RT and OG.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:07 am
Round 1 … Offensive Tackle.
Round 2 … Defensive Tackle or Defensive End
Round 3 … Running Back
Round 4 … Offensive Lineman
Rounds 5-6 … Whatever
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:14 am
o line, o line, runningback
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:23 am
You don’t take an OT in the first round if there’s a better player available at a different position. We need a lot of help all over the team, take BPA. Right now one draft guru has us taking DT Kinlaw from S.C..
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:24 am
R1-OL or DL-dotson or suhs replacement
R2- DL or OL-JPP or dotson’s replacement
R3-OLB/DE- shaqs replacement
R4-RB or OL-depth
R5-6- DL/OL/LB-depth
sign a FS and RB in FA and we’d be good…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:28 am
Draft order is not significant for the Bucs. We have just as much of a chance of blowing a top draft pick as we do an 18th.
We have a good core in place and one a few years before some serious talent moves on or ages out. Draft what we need to help America’s Turnover Machine reduce his mistakes.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:33 am
@813, Shaq ain’t going anywhere, why you replacing him?
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:35 am
hodad
i would love DT kinlaw….that would be great….we need inside pass rush….
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:36 am
@Hodad, that goes for any position.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:37 am
I have the same thoughts thebucsandthem. As I said yesterday I think Arians will go OT or RB with the first pick depending on the highest value on which ever one and in the second go QB to sit and develop over the next season
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
Walter Football has us drafting 17th currently and taking Grant Delpit, S, LSU
“The Buccaneers could draft a quarterback, but that would require general manager Jason Licht to admit that he was wrong about Jameis Winston. Licht believes he’s right about everything, so Tampa might give Winston another shot in 2020. If so, perhaps this pick will be used on a safety to finally make amends for not selecting Derwin James”.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
bucsdelight
bad choice of word on my behave…..meet to say depth….
i hope we sign shaq to a 4year deal but we need to draft someone now in case of injury……cant wait to fill a hole once its already created….
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
Draft order is irrelevant as long as Licht is GM and JW is QB. Both are proven losers. Glazers might want to look at attendance. It was embarassing being on national TV and seeing that sparse crowd and putrid offensive display. Expect more of the same as long as these 2 bozos are here.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:39 am
Don’t really matter as the Universal Rule of Bucs Draft always prevails….the player the Bucs covet is always taken a pick or two ahead of when the Bucs pick….
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:40 am
Which of the 2 projected RBs would you want in the 1st rd?
14. Travis Etienne*, RB, Clemson
Eitenne has 37 rushing TDs on 311 rushing attempts the last three seasons. He averages 7.8 yards per carry. Size might be a question, but game-breaking ability won’t be.
15. Jonathan Taylor*, RB, Wisconsin
Taylor has 4,171 rushing yards and 29 TDs the last two season. The production comes with few questions, and he should be the next solid Wisconsin running back at the next level.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:58 am
PLEEEEEASE DO NOT SIGN WINSTON TO A LONG TERM DEAL!!! He is far to inconsistent to be given top dollar QB money. I am sick of people comparing his record to Farve and Manning. It is not even close. He can’t read defenses and he is NOT an accurate passer. He is just average. Certainly not worth the kind of money he is rumored to want. This guy is in his 5TH year. No starting NFL QB should be throwing 4 interceptions a game after 5 years in the league. !st or 2nd years maybe, but NOT in your 5th year!!! If Winston is retained, it should be a 1 year prove it kind of deal, for average money. Do not waste a franchise tag on this guy.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:59 am
Well bucsdelight they have the RB out of Georgia rated at the top as for now but we all know how that work, these sports sites have players rated high and sometimes they’re last in their area to get drafted Go over to Walter football.com and check it out
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:02 am
In the 1st Jedrick Wills is an OT from Alabama who might fall to 18.
Andrew Thomas from Georgia is the best OT, he won’t last out of the top 5.
Tristan Wirfs is another good OT, he is probably a top 10 pick.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:02 am
While I would love a win on Sunday over the Falcons for an 8-8 season, it would only be a moral victory. That being said, I would rather move up 5 positions in the draft.
Different sites have the Bucs currently at 17 and different SOS numbers, so I can’t say for sure, but that being said, here’s who you should root for on Sunday to help the Bucs get a higher pick:
Titans over Texans
Eagles over Giants
Cowboys over Redskins
Bears over Vikings
Colts over Jaguars
Browns over Bengals
Raiders over Broncos – Doesn’t really matter as one will end up above the Bucs and the other behind the Bucs, but Oakland seems to have similar early round needs to the Bucs, At least 5 of 7 of those should be favored. Texans and Vikings may sit players as they have playoff positions already locked up.
I can’t root against the Bucs, but a loss would be helpful for the draft. Best case, Bucs pick #12; wost case Bucs pick #18.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:15 am
no RB in the first round….
kamara
hunt
j.conner
marlon mack
the 49ers RBs
the packers RBs
all were found in later rounds….
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:17 am
Needless to say, who the Bucs re-sign and get in FA will impact their picks.
Keep – Shaq, JPP
Keep at right price – Nassib, Perryman, Barber, JW ($15M)
Gone – Dotson, Suh (want to keep him, but his numbers decreasing and he costs too much)
Trade – OJ (2nd and 4th rd picks)
FA – Maybe a mid-level CB, S and OL depth. May be a year to do little to nothing.
So what should the Bucs draft?
1st – DL
2nd – RT, RB
3rd – G or C, S
4th, 5th, 6th – DL and OL
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:21 am
Right tackle, running back, pass rusher in any order, but as long as Licht is doing the picking I do not feel confident in the draft. He sucks.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:21 am
I would like to see the Bucs go 8&8 at least it’s not another losing season. As for the draft the top prospects in the area we are in need of want be there unless like mentioned we draft in the 5-7 spots. I do think we will find what we need in the lower round of the first round. It’s not always promising that that high first round picks are gonna pan out. All Bucs fans can witness that and with the lower round pick it doesn’t cost the team as much if they don’t pan out
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:27 am
zero reason to win next week.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:29 am
Yet again another bucs year turns into nothing more than draft hype for the next year. But with Jason Licht the antichrist of winning football calling the shots and sameis Jameis leading the league in turnovers why ever bother next year.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:33 am
A lot of hatred on this site for GM Licht. I agree he deserves some heat for his early work at One Buc Place. However I believe his draft choices and free agent signings have improved over the past few seasons. I will never forgive him for Roberto Aguayo but he also gets major credit for signing Shaq Barrett, JPP and Suh. His offensive line and defensive back draft picks are starting to look solid. D. White looks like a future star and he finally found a decent kicker in the 5th round last year. Let’s also not forget Chris Godwin was a third round pick and RB Jones is also looking like a solid pick.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:34 am
Also I forgot to mention Vita Vea who is also starting to look like a stud…
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:43 am
Why break with tradition – draft a corner !!
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:10 am
#1 offensive tackle or trade down and get running back
#2 RB or OT
#3 safety
#4 d line
resign almost all of them, dump Jameis, sign Bridgewater sell OJ or Brate
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:10 am
@Stevebobucsfan,
Last I saw was the Georgia kid was low and slated for the 2nd rd.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:11 am
By the time we pick all the top Offensive Tackles will be off the board.
The Bucs best options:
Trade up for the QB you want. (at what cost though??)
Trade down and pick up a QB in the 1st that has 2nd round projections (Fromm?)
Stay put draft BPA (most likely a DB) or reach on QB
Personally I say reach on the QB, we have too many holes to trade up and trading back is too risky. This year QB class has the potential to meet the class of 82 and there are teams looking at QB that typically wouldn’t be. (NO, NE and DAL could on be on the hunt)
If DAL is in the hunt that means DAK is available and I would rather pay him 30 mil than JW 25 mil.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:18 am
Tim says: Trade down and pick up a QB in the 1st that has 2nd round projections
I like that too but I think Bridgewater will be available in FA and he is better than any of the qb’s in the draft except Joe Burrow who will be out of reach.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:25 am
Larry,
you can’t get rid of Winston UNTIL you know you can replace him. That’s the bottom line: Tolerate him until you can replace him.
That said, if he cuts down his turnover rate to what it used to be–and that definitely can be done through coaching & play-calling alone–then he instantly becomes one of the Top 6-7 QBs in the NFL.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:29 am
Bucs need a veteran QB. Our WRs are in their prime. You don’t draft a rookie to go through growing pains and uncertainty and lose production from 2 of the best WRs in the game. Draft the trenches. No idea what to do at RB.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:33 am
There will be too many QBs in FA to draft a QB in the 1st. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th you can draft one, but not the 1st. Also, Winston will be here at least another year.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:45 am
The only tough teams we played were
SF 49er’s 12-3
Seattle 11-4
Texans 10-5
Saints twice 12-3
5 games against winning records
Rams and Titans weren’t that great as they both sit at 8 – 7
We had 11 games against teams 8 – 7 or less
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:51 am
Nobody is saying this…………..BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
The Glazers could go cheapo mode on the QB (not resign winston) in order to retain the core of the defense and Godwin upcoming contract
……………..it could happen people and I wouldn’t put that past the Glazers either
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:53 am
813bucboi … Our DLine will be gutted when the season ends (almost all are UFAs), to include most of our OLBs. Vea, Gholston, O’Connor, Nelson, Daniels are the only 5 left out of 12 (and only ONE of those is a bonafide starter). The other 7 (Suh, Allen, Nunez-Roches, JPP, Barrett, Nassib, Acho) are all UFAs.
Personally I’d love for us to re-sign 5 of those 7 UFAs (JPP, Suh, Barrett, Nassib & Nunez-Roches) and replace Allen with a high draft pick (preferably Round 2 pick). Bucs need to draft 2 OLinemen this year more than we need 2 DLinemen.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:57 am
Jameis Bashers get to gloat for a week… blame Jameis
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:58 am
An awful lot depends on free agency this year. QB, RT, S, DE/OLB, DT….
They have to do a better job at self evaluating their roster. Draft status and pay scale can’t rule over production on the field. Past mistakes cant be compounded by either of those things.
Winston has to be replaced or nothing else matters. Four years should have been enough to see what he was, five is more than enough. They saw it through, it didn’t work out, move on.
Who makes this team better, Jameis Winston at $30 million per year, or Shaq Barrett + Chris Godwin at $30 million combined per year? Waving goodbye to Winston is addition by subtraction. Continue to build the defense and running game and get competent QB play.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:05 pm
JameisAlmighty! Says:
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:57 am
Jameis Bashers get to gloat for a week… blame Jameis
What an assinine statement. Nobody wants to gloat.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:45 pm
Rd 1: RB or DL
Rd 2: DL or RB
Rd 3: RT or LB
Rd 4: LB or RT
Rd 5: LB or OL
Rd 6: OL
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:02 pm
The team is going to finish the year 8-8… and if Gay makes an a shorter than extra point FG, they’re 9-7.
What exactly did people think this team, and it’s #31st ranked defense, was going to do this year?
I had them 7-9, with a top 5 offense and a bottom 5 defense. I’m going to be right. If you thought they were a playoff team when they had a bunch of rookies in the secondary, then you’re an idiot that doesn’t understand football.
In any case the defense has improved as of late, which is exactly what you were hoping for. Winston, like Carson Palmer, will cut down the turnovers in his second year in Arians offense and improve. I’ve been mostly conservative the last few years, with 9-7 being the best I’d give this team, but next year I see big things. The light is at the end of the tunnel finally – and as of now, I’m picking 11-5. When the schedule comes out I’ll see how that plays out – but next year I’d expect that big leap.
Also if the big leap doesn’t happen, then the team is blown up, and its another half-decade of rebuilding. I know the triggered Winston haters spend 24/7 hating Winston, getting angry over and over again, mumbling in their sleep about Winston, etc etc etc – but if they care about the team more than their hatred of Winston, then they should be hoping we finally turn that corner.
But the Winston haters hate Winston more than they love the Bucs, which is why they want, first and foremost for the Bucs to fail since they hope it means the end of their personal nightmare, and the return of Mike Glennon and a 12-points a game offense and 2-14 records.
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:27 pm
With the 18th pick, Buccaneers select Jordan Love, QB Utah St.
Yep, heard it here first!
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:29 pm
Then OT (Wills if possible), Safety (Kyle Dugger), RB (Zakk Moss), C Darryl Williams.
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:58 pm
Seems like the NFL should reward you for giving you a more difficult schedule instead of penalize you. The Bucs are also penalized for having a great team in their division too.
IF the Bucs were in the NFC East or the AFC they would still have a chance at the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:11 pm
Hodad – says: You don’t take an OT in the first round if there’s a better player available at a different position.
In truth, you do if you project the player for 6-10 years as part of a solid core of offensive linemen.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:11 pm
I’m a fan of Malachi Becton the OT from Louisville. He is an athletic 6’7″ 378 pound lineman. The guy is a leader and is massive, but he probably will not be a top 15 pick because teams think he is strictly a right tackle. I like him much more than the tackles from Iowa this year.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:12 pm
Well said Rodney Munch
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:20 pm
@Ocala, Yeah ive been a big fan of Becton too….awesome pass protection, just not so much at opening holes for the run game which is what we need. I worry about his weight. But I’d still take him if we cant land Jedrick Wills. Matter of fact, if he falls to the 3rd, we may have to spend our 2nd on Safety Kyle Dugger, you’ll see his name start to get mentioned a lot soon, especially if he gets an invite to the combine.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:41 pm
DR
if JW is returning, we need all the defensive help we can get….lol…
wells filled in nicely….cappa developed nicely…..
we need to walk out of this draft with: OT, OG/C, DT, DE/OLB, RB, FS…..
sign a FS and RB in FA and i think we’d be good…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:57 pm
Draft Brad Gradkowski
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:58 pm
It’s Bruce’s little brother he is really talented
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:25 pm
It’s funny seeing Licht still being criticized despite him literally hitting for the cycle this last draft. He managed to find a future all-pro at MLB, two of the three best young trio of CBs in the NFL (he got Davis mast season), a good young safety that should pair well with the potential star from last season’s draft (Whitehead), a decent contributor with potential in Anthony Nelson, the best kicker we’ve had since Matt Bryant, a contributor and deep threat I round 6 in Scotty Miller. I have absolute faith in Licht and this coaching staff. The past two drafts have been amazing. The dude is getting it done.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:28 pm
Ocala Says:
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:11 pm
I’m a fan of Malachi Becton the OT from Louisville. He is an athletic 6’7″ 378 pound lineman. The guy is a leader and is massive, but he probably will not be a top 15 pick because teams think he is strictly a right tackle. I like him much more than the tackles from Iowa this year
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I don’t like any OL that big. They have a terrible track record for failure in the NFL. Anything over 335 is generally too much. Stockard McDougal, Anthony Gibson. Both huge failures despite their enormous size.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:31 pm
Some people are making way too much sense here.
1) OT or DL
2) DL or OT
3) RB or edge rusher
4) Edge rusher or RB or QB
5) OL or QB
6) WR or OL
7) DB or DL
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:11 pm
I just happy we’re not in the top ten. That’s progress imo.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:22 pm
Draft a Q.B. and sign a veteran.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:36 pm
Clearly we need a replacement for Dot and a legit RB. Don’t know why this franchise doesn’t evaluate the RB correctly? Anyways, but all know what we need vs what we will get will be because Licht will try to out smart himself and pick a random safety of tight end. I used to get amped up for the draft and now I just expect to be let down. Our drafts never excite me anymore. Same ol why would you leave that guy on the board and pick that guy question?
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:24 pm
Take the best player available in the first round since we could use help everywhere. A new right tackle would be nice, as well as a QB and RB before round 5. Hopefully, there will be some decent talent available in free agency and we also have two assets at tight end that we never use/don’t know how to use, that could fetch us something we need more.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:16 pm
In the draft you NEED offensive lineman. RT has to be addressed with a high pick – and the Bucs will probably need a C since I can’t believe they’ll return with Jensen making the money he’s making. Maybe they talk him down a few million to stay – but he’s not worth what he’s being paid. Also, ideally, you’re grooming an RT to become your future LT since I don’t know if the Bucs will be able to afford Smith when his deal is up. I personally wouldn’t wait until the draft in 2 years to get another LT since there is almost always growing pains – and that’s the 2nd most important position in football (if you have a right handed QB).
Ideally they’d stock up guys on the o-line since they have no depth.
Obviously the Bucs will need an upgrade at RB as I can’t foresee Barber and Dare returning, at least not Dare returning as the 3rd down guy. If they somehow got David Johnson on a bargain basement deal, that would be ideal since even if he isn’t what he was, he can at worst be your 3rd down guy. Ronnie I think is doing OK as the starter, but I’m also OK with an upgrade there – but he’ll still be on the team in some capacity.
Also the Bucs need WR depth. Perriman was awful early but has really turned it around lately – and probably priced himself out of the Bucs resigning him. Which is OK with me, he’s a guy who has always done this, looked lost, then has a few game hot strech, then returns to being lost. I’d rather spend a 3rd or 4th on a big WR to be that 3rd man, and as the emergency escape hatch in case something happened and we weren’t able to resign Godwin.
On defense we finally don’t need to draft defensive backs… I think. On the d-line you have Vita, and that’s basically it. But in this defensive I’m not sure how much you need stud d-lineman – you just need big guys to mainly stop the run. LB is more difficult. I’m not sure Nassib is back. I doubt JPP is back, but perhaps they can work out something. White and David are obviously solid, and Shaq will get franchised I guess. We also have Nelson, who has had a lost rookie year, but they did like him early from everything I remember hearing. So basically I don’t think the defense is in bad shape. They’ve been much better lately and the DB’s haven’t looked completely lost all the time.
For assets, I’m thinking the Bucs might be able to flip Brate for maybe a 4th – and that can be a backup OL or LB, or perhaps your 3rd WR. I don’t think they’d trade OJ, but if he also went, that would bring at least a 3rd – at least. But then you’re spending another 3rd on a TE so it’s a wash – and almost certainly a huge downgrade. I’m still holding out hope on OJ and this just being a lost season and seeing a huge jump next year. Brate is too expensive to keep, so I can’t see that happening.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:17 pm
Wow, that was long – which likely means it’s boring as well… My apologies.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:10 pm
We all want the same thing wins ,playoffs and a consistent playoff contender. Which is a better organization. We have went through 5 head coaches, 3 G.Ms and we are still no better off. Maybe we need to look outside the salary cap box and look west and up at our Ring of Honor and there seems to be a #47 Mr. Lynch that seems to understand what it takes to run a very good organization and judge talent. Let’s look at making him the President of Football operations and let him start making the decisions on Our GM , quarterback, etc. He’s been there done that from the field up. He is a pretty smart guy!
December 24th, 2019 at 5:52 am
What about picking up Bridgewater in FA and depending on how far Tua drops due to his hip injury pick him up in the late 1st or early 2nd round and have him ride the bench for a year under a real QB until he can replace him. I have a feeling Tua will be available because other teams will not want to take the chance on him like years ago no team wanted to take a chance on Drew Brees because of his shoulder injury. I believe we need a QB and I rather sign Bridgewater and draft a QB than drop 20 million on Winston for a 1 year prove it deal. Then in the 2nd round I’d look for a runningback because we desperately need one just as bad as QB
December 24th, 2019 at 6:12 am
Rod, you love your Bucs and put a lot out there….I admire and respect that!
December 24th, 2019 at 12:35 pm
Trade this years first and next years first for the second pick and draft chase young.
December 24th, 2019 at 2:56 pm
^no way….dont get me wrong, i love him too, but too many other positions need addressing plus we already have a very good pass rush….jmho