The State Of The Bucs
December 5th, 2019
It is too early to evaluate this Bucs team. But with perhaps meaningful games this month — a rare occurrence in these parts — it’s fun to see where the Bucs stand.
And while it may to too soon to make any final determination of the State of the Bucs for 2019, that hasn’t stopped Jet-flyin’, kiss–stealin‘, data-analyzin’, Bucs-film-studyin’, limousine-ridin’ Thomas Bassinger of the Tampa Bay Times from weighing in.
Bassinger twittered out his thoughts.
Team MVP: Chris Godwin
Breakout: Vita Vea
Disappointment: O.J. Howard
Surprise: JPP playing
Underrated: Lavonte David
Overrated: Running the ball
Buying: Secondary
Selling: Run defense
Franchising: Shaquil Barrett
Throwing away: The uniformsYour picks? #Bucs #FixTheBucsUnis
— Thomas Bassinger (@tometrics) December 4, 2019
It is hard for Joe to disagree with anything Bassinger writes here. Joe might quibble with the run defense. It’s still damn good. Joe suspects part of Bassinger’s “sell” of the Bucs run defense is that a team should focus more on stopping the pass in a passing league. That would add up and it’s a fair argument.
And while franchising Shaq Barrett is smart, doesn’t the team also need to keep Jason Pierre-Paul? Offenses figured out Barrett after his hellacious start to the season and he was a no-show for two straight weeks (both losses) until JPP was activated. Since, Barrett has resurrected his excellent season.
Besides, JPP’s leadership is something this team may need more than it lets on.
December 5th, 2019 at 8:06 am
Disappointment….Jameis !
December 5th, 2019 at 8:07 am
Really think we need to keep SUH an JPP. The mentality they bring is what is going to change this culture or we need to find players with the same mentality an skill level as them. I hope jpps leadership an mentality rubs off on these young’s guy. Jpp hates losing an gets angry an pushes that on his teammates which is great idk what player was talking about having fun with women after the loss to the titans but they need to go we need players who hate losing an are here to win games an a championship not players who don’t care an are here for just a paid vacation. GET EM JPP
December 5th, 2019 at 8:14 am
The defense is considerably better than last year with signs it will get better. The complete opposite of the QB position.
December 5th, 2019 at 8:18 am
Agree on JPP being more vital than Shaq, as much as we love Shaq
December 5th, 2019 at 8:29 am
I wonder who the new qb will be …any ideas?
December 5th, 2019 at 8:45 am
Jameis haters are almost as ignorant as liberals…. deranged ignorance nothing more
December 5th, 2019 at 8:45 am
DooshLaRue Says:
December 4th, 2019 at 11:47 pm
Ndog has season tickets but still posts on the game day threads?
Hmmmmmm….
Forget everything else for a minute, the real question is does Doosh really not know how the internet and phones work? I mean you make it so easy to be defeated in every argument you make. Come on man step up your game.
December 5th, 2019 at 8:45 am
I am resigned to the fact we will not spend the money on JPP. I would like to see it – I think in some ways JPP’s leadership is more important than Shaq’s sacks. And what about Carl Nassib? Yeah, not as much of a leader as JPP, and certainly not as much of an impact player, BUT he is only 25 whereas JPP is what, 50? lol.
Don’t get me wrong, JPP is one of my favorites for the leadership he brings and his absolute LOVE of the game. But its a business and how much more does he have in him?
December 5th, 2019 at 8:52 am
Yes… Throw away the uniforms, its not that hard Glazers!!!!
I agree with his picks.
December 5th, 2019 at 8:53 am
JPP was a huge surprise. I did not think he would see the field and if he did, I did not think he would be 100%. He is 100% and a true pro, a leader!
December 5th, 2019 at 8:54 am
^^^Keep in mind, if we are able to resign or franchise Barrett, then we also have to sign JW, Godwin, maybe Nassib, etc. Suh and JPP are probably gone. But I love JPP, love his attitude, he will always be one of my favorites
December 5th, 2019 at 8:55 am
gotta resign shaq and jpp…..
gotta offer nassib and suh….
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 5th, 2019 at 8:56 am
Disappointment….Buc fans
December 5th, 2019 at 9:04 am
Tmaxcon leave politics out of this or get off the blog.
December 5th, 2019 at 9:04 am
We stand at the point that we win against bad team. WE NEED A QB!!!! NOT A TURNOVER MACHINE, BAD DECISION MAKING, CANT RECOGNIZE A BLITZ,RUNS LIKE A FAT POTATO AND FUMBLING QB.
December 5th, 2019 at 9:06 am
I hope we can keep some of these guys. Evans cant keep taking pay cuts so licht can make bad contracts.
December 5th, 2019 at 9:07 am
Jameis lovers are like dumpster supporters doesn’t matter what he’s done off the field as long as they throw them a bone every now and then tmaxcon
December 5th, 2019 at 9:15 am
Draft replacements for Dotson & Suh…….let Brate walk….free up $21mil.
December 5th, 2019 at 9:31 am
I had to look at this post twice. Tom is such a baby, but this post is accurate. I’m surprised he didn’t put Off Season dream: bring back mccoy.
December 5th, 2019 at 10:06 am
Would love to see some way for the Bucs to bring back Nassib, Barrett, Suh and JPP under perfect circumstances, but that probably isn’t in the cards. JPP is a must for his fire, ability and leadership. He needs to be the number one priority.
December 5th, 2019 at 10:14 am
Jameis will be our QB next year you can count on that! We would be stupid in letting him go. Who else would replace him? I’m not impressed by the rookie class.
December 5th, 2019 at 11:12 am
Sunshine… I think ‘professional game manger’ Alex Smith wouldn’t be a bad option, if he’s available.
December 5th, 2019 at 11:20 am
Allbuccedup
Settle down Frances….. your probably one of the first idiots to drop race every 5 minutes…. i am not going anywhere ma’am
December 5th, 2019 at 11:26 am
Allbuccedup
They are sports entertainers paid to win football games. Not there to raise your illegitimate children pal…. no one gives a rats arse what you do when you are not working. its none of the fans business what they do on thier own time. If they violate law just like any of us the system will handle it. Idiots like you who hold athletes to a higher standard are judgemental, pathetic,’mentally weak losers….. say hi to dungy the clown at Sunday’s cult meeting for me….
December 5th, 2019 at 11:31 am
Let’s see. We FINALLY develop a defense that can actually stop somebody and the recommendation from a bunch of geniuses is to blow it up. Without a pass rush, you hang our Secondary out to dry. So for sure let’s get rid of JPP and Suh and oh ya, Nassib … you know, the beasts in the trenches … and let’s bring in some new UNKNOWN bodies to fill those holes and let the defense start over again next year.
Or maybe they wouldn’t be unknown. Maybe we can re-sign Swaggy Baker & Beau Allen & Vinny Curry & Michael Johnson & George Rogers to fill the holes. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Just think of how much we could save so we could pay a franchise QB $30 mil next year. Yes, that’s sarcasm for those who can’t figure it out. And now you know why we own the NFC South basement year-after-year.
December 5th, 2019 at 11:41 am
@TBBF … “Draft replacements for Dotson & Suh…….let Brate walk….free up $21mil.”
I’m surprised TBBF. You’re talking your starting RT (who isn’t under contract in 2020 anyways), starting DT (who’s also not under contract) and a starting TE (who is under contract but with no dead Cap).
What round would you have to draft a Tackle in to assure yourself of having a rookie STARTER at that position? What round would you have to draft a DT in to replace your starting DT? (Who happened to be a 1st Rnd pick himself BTW). And if you let Brate walk to save $6 mil next year, what does it cost you to replace him?
Freeing up $21 mil sounds wonderful (except that 2 of those weren’t under contract for 2020 anyways), UNTIL you start looking at the COST of replacing those starters with EQUIVALENT (or hopefully BETTER) starters.
December 5th, 2019 at 11:47 am
D R
Please explain to me how you can give them credit for developing a defense yet the only wins come against garbage teams with almost as much dysfunction as this minor league circus…. once again you have put the cart 25 miles in front of the horse…. will you freaking people let them earn it consistently against good teams before throwing out free passes as fast as government gives out handouts…… change your screen name to salvation army bucfan or goodwill defender of failure
December 5th, 2019 at 11:53 am
It’s funny you say that tmax because to me the serious Jameis haters/bashers are the kind who support Trump or any conservative/republican. Totally mean spirited and go on and on about the same thing over and over. They are as deranged as these liberals who by the way are a necessary evil to counterbalance the evil of the far right conservatives.
You definitely are a viciously funny dude. Actually one of the few posters I like to read. It’s funny reading when these guys try to get at you and you slap the taste out of their mouths. A lot of guys(?) up here are real sensitive and get into their feelings alot.
December 5th, 2019 at 11:57 am
IMHO The Bucs priority should be to sign Shaq, Nassib, JPP & possibly Suh in that order. Then worry about JW.
December 5th, 2019 at 12:00 pm
In order to help pay for the signings I recommened above I would let Brate, Allen, Gholston & Dotson walk.
December 5th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
I’d say JPP and Barrett are equally important to resign. JPP will cost much less of course. Might be worth it to take the chance on Barrett and franchise him if they can’t agree to a 2 – 4 year deal that makes sense for both sides.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming: watching t max continue to melt down like the little snowflake that he is.
December 5th, 2019 at 12:21 pm
Honestly we need all three of them to stay somehow. I’d love to keep C Nab too. The problem is I dont see us being able to keep that line in tack. Then itll be back to square one n everything possible clicking when its pretty much too late AGAIN
December 5th, 2019 at 1:03 pm
Shaq is going to get at least franchise tag money… so at least $17M versus this year’s $4M. I don’t think we’re going to be able to afford him. Dot and his $4.8M are gone and will hopefully be replaced by a first rounder (since we’ll be picking too late for QB) at similar cap hit. So…. please keep Suh and JPP who will run about $20M together but our irreplaceable for the culture they are pouring into our young studs Vea and Devin… if the DB crop yields results similar to the last 2 weeks over a full season we’ve got reason for hope. We should have at least 4 picks in rounds 2-4 next year and I’d be happy to see as many OL picks as BA likes. I wouldn’t go fishing for another RB unless a trade gives us more ammo. We need Suh and JPP fire… and need some version of it for OL as Donovan and Dot are cultural negatives at this point, Jensen hasn’t lived up to hopes and Marpet/Cappa, while keepers, do not have the makeup to provide the fire.
December 5th, 2019 at 1:14 pm
anyone else disheartened our whole D-Line contracts expire same year (xcept Mt. Vea)? like what front office does that? joe can we get a scoop on it?
December 5th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
Probably should listen to Move the Sticks and what they have to say about the Run game… I think I put more credibility in their opinions then Tom Bassinger and JBF and commentators.
December 5th, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Thomas Bassinger is the moron who advocated for Brian Dawkins making the hall of fame over Lynch. His opinions are meaningless to me (though he has every right to make a jacka$$ of himself).
December 5th, 2019 at 3:51 pm
Altered——Yes the NFLs 2nd leading passer is a disappointment, hahahaha.
You can’t make this stuff up.
This blog is like an episode of Springer where you’re just like, are people really this stupid?
December 5th, 2019 at 6:53 pm
OMG I agree with Tmax on something.
December 6th, 2019 at 3:16 pm
Bassinger is a reoccurring Bucs basher. No matter what Jameis does he’s SUPER negative. It’s borderline personal in my eyes.
So I tend not to read what he post b/c I don’t think he’s really subjective, this might be one of the rare times he is…