Staring Down Receivers
December 23rd, 2019
You won’t believe how Joe’s Twitter mentions light up when Mr. Entertainment, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston throws a pick.
The most popular complaint is that Jameis stares down his receivers, which allows defenders to read his eyes and get a jump on a ball.
Sometimes, fans at home see more than folks at the game. Joe does not have easy access to replays in the press box and often has to rely on the JumboTron at the Den of Depression. It’s almost always a different angle than the broadcast version.
So Joe cannot always confirm Jameis stares down receivers when he is picked.
However, Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians was asked if Jameis needs to look off receivers more. Arians claims the opposite is true, that Jameis looks off receivers so much he misses the big picture.
“No, not at all,” Arians said of Jameis needing to look off more. “He actually does it too much. He tries to look safeties off too much and it costs him a couple completions where he’s looking off instead of getting his eyes on who he’s throwing to.”
Joe has no idea what to make of that but Joe will side with Arians only because he has access to all information most of us never will see.
As for Jameis being reckless with the ball, could it just be that Arians’ offense is fun and exciting but in the end, reckless offense to begin with?
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:21 am
I may not see his eyes a lot but i do see his head and he’s bad about staring at who he’s throwing to. Looking off a DB means turning your head a little and maybe a pump fake. He’s always been bad about staring down.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:25 am
Jameis has been reckless with the ball since “Tennessee Ready”. I don’t think that the offense does him any favors with keeping his int’s down though. Carson Palmer threw for 22 picks his first season in that offense and then brought them down in the following years. I don’t think that Jameis will ever be able to do that (0 proof in 5 years), but we should get another year with him to find out.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:26 am
Fans here post jameis stares down or locks in ….. as if this fans can see what jameis is doing. As if this fans are playing in the field against him.
Brady does the same thing as jameis. His head stay at the same spot. But the difference is jameis is dumb. He makes his mind up. Locks his decision and fires away.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:28 am
Geez joe you are infatuated with jameis … what puzzle are you trying to solve with him? There’s nothing to figure out! Your man sucks … he throws interceptions… and he loses games … your not fooling anyone with your excuses and silly conspiracy theories of jameis “ turnover” Winston
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:40 am
Winston throws touchdowns lots of them and for lots of yards so he earned another year but he also throws more picks than even late round rookies so he also earned serious competition and this franchise should draft a quarterback as back up instead of going the ryan Tannehill route because in the end titans still need another guy. this franchise would be stupid to think they make aplayoff run or even playoff games with a guy throwing 4 picks. This was a playoff team that beat us and this is what happens against good teams, I’m tired of the he brought us back crap. We finally have a defense to hold opponents and get the ball back but the interceptions is a reason to get a game manager and have a high pick invested in your run game and o line instead your offensive coordinator being stupid enough to throw 50 times a game with a guy who leads the league in picks every year. Winston does not deserve a big contract if your telling me you have to limit how many times he can throws to be effective. If licht will not invest high picks into running backs then he needs a new quarterback
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:42 am
Yes, Arians type of offense is reckless, especially when you have a turnover machine running it, and yes, Winston stares down recievers.
Maybe in his old age, Arians’ eyesight is going.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:44 am
I just don’t get it. There is every excuse in the world for this guy. There is every chance for this guy. He got the same offensive coach to be the head coach for continuity. He failed. He got the QBs whisperer to be his new coach and failed miserably by throwing more picks in a season than anyone has since Brett Favre was a young man addicted to pain pills. And yet he keeps getting the we need one more game for him to prove if he needs to be resigned. It’s like there not gauging this on a football winning decision. There basing this on a fan perception. So if he throws 5tds 0 ints he gets a new contract because that’s the last game us idiot fans have seen. No we have seen 5 years of mediocrity. With flashes of brilliance and stretches of who the heck was that to. He is who he is and you can’t have a qb that will before the season starts you know you will lose 4 games because of him. Have to have lucky breaks to overcome his bad decision making in 4 other games. And win 6 because of him. Because every year we are going in knowing we are 6-8 and the other two games can go either way so 6-10 – 8-8 is what we will always be. Resign the defensive talent we have. Bring in a case keenum draft a QBs and let it play out. If he really cared he would sign a mid tier team friendly deal knowing we are bringing in competition. We will sign you to a 2 year 30 million deal first year 15 million guaranteed second year not guaranteed. Best man win out I watch all the games in the nfl and with the offensive weapons we have I really think keenum or dalton could put up similar numbers to jameis with half the interceptions. And we would go into a season with 8–12 wins as our ceiling. Versus 6-8. In my opinion we should have seen what we have in griffin by now. He is the preseason king he may be a diamond in the rough gamer who never got a chance. He has been in the league for 6 years for a reason see what you got. You know what you have with Winston. We have seen him play the falcons a lot so book it his stat line will be very close to this next Sunday. 24-39 328 yards 3tds 3ints 24 yards rushing. With the falcons dropping 2 more should have been picks. We lose 30-27 because of his 3 picks 13 points are handed to the falcons
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:51 am
Take away the one 49 yd carry, Rojo had 13 more carries for 28 yards Not very impressive. It’s problably because he stares down the behind of the oline too much.
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:51 am
Kudos on the pic Joe. One of the best and most quotable old movies. What hump? I had to be talked into watching Young Frankenstein (that’s Frank-in-steen) so glad I did!
December 23rd, 2019 at 12:53 am
Adrnagy:
Now that’s funny! Late night posts are always the best 😂
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:08 am
I expect Winston to overcompensate vs Falcons and throw enough picks to set 30/30 record – sadly for him and Bucs fans. Why?
1. He is bad — in home stadium, for some weird reason. aka Den of Depression @Joe.
2. He will want to beat Koetter, and take stupid chances.
3. No running game combined with a bunch of newbie receivers, and OJ has brick hands. Brate will recover and help in situations.
4. Somehow, most D’s precipitate what Winston is going to do in the first 2 series of every game….??? Curl routes —STOP!
5. He will be trying too hard….to get a new Bucs contract.
Tampa fans seem “done” with Jamies. The only way he salvages a new TB contract, is to win the game with 3-4 TD’s and no INTs or turnovers.
My prediction – Bucs will resign him for a “1 YR Prove-It-to-me deal” to find out if Bruce can fix him —–if, and only if – Bucs win vs Falcons. A loss for any reason, will result in Bucs letting Winston see what his FA market might be.
I hate the rollercoaster ride of Winston ups and downs….but also recall the Bucs boring days of 3 field goals, to win a game. I like Bucs can score 30/game.
Gruden/Tomlin – might have interest in Winston if he is FA. The Master/Belichick might have interest to tutor Winston in Brady’s last few years.
We shall see, next week. I expect another rollercoaster event….And I want JW to be successful.
Go BUCS
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:10 am
Yards Do Not Equal Wins
I find it interesting we get excited JW throws for a lot of yards. More yards thrown doesn’t mean more wins.
The winning Teams yesterday threw for: 118, 291, 251, 319, 238, 183, 248. Only 1 +300 and 2 -200
Out of the top 5 leaders in yards thrown 1 is going to the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:11 am
Nice!
(Knockers?)
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:24 am
Bring in any qb other than Winston … with the receivers the Bucs have and resigning core players on defense you get less turnovers and more wins … that’s a promise … Bucs need to save that franchise tag and spend money on a free agent quarterback, draft a qb … hell go get Andy dalton … Bucs have the receivers … they need a quarterback who does not turn the ball over 3-4 times a game … it’s freaking sickening… dude can’t go one game without a fumble or a INT … we have wasted $20 million this year on this guy … and who ever enjoys his numbers over wins are idiots
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:25 am
The Bucs turn the ball over on 20.6 percent of their drives. The rest of the NFL is around 12.5. -John Romano TBTIMES
Slow wind up release + LOTS of THROWS TO AN OUT ROUTE (poor angle and low margin for error!) + DEFENSIVE “BOOK” is OUT ON WINSTON [ means all defensive meetings are playing tape on INT and DUMB throws]
Players are seeing the INT before WINSTON even releases the ball because his INT are all so similarly STUPID!!!!
It’s not like he is firing the ball into triple coverage on every one ala FAVRE.
Soo yup WINNY is an IDIOT and a REAL JERK in person doesn’t tip more than $6 on an $85 tab INSIDE KNOWLEDGE!!!
But you know what???? I am forced to route for him because I want him to be successful……., Only 1 problem! He never will stop 🛑 the turnovers EVER!
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:25 am
I am still hoping for my wish for Mike Glennon taking over as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers starting quarterback in 2020 to become true. I’ll take Glennon for $5 million over Winstunned for $20+ million any day of the week!
December 23rd, 2019 at 1:54 am
Oh well. When TB rids itself of Winston. I have good news.
My Apple “sleep app” will show “deep sleep” on Bucs football Sundays, from 2 -3PM.
Just like during the Dungy days. I wake up in time at 3:30, to see if TB wins on field goal, in a 13-10 game.
Oh, and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin – are still searching for their yards…..
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:10 am
Here’s a fun fact…
Brad Johnson threw a first series INT in 2 of the Bucs 3 games in the 2002 playoffs (SF, OAK). He also threw another INT on the 2nd series of another game (PHI).
So Brad Johnson, the ultimate game manager super safe no mistakes QB, threw three INTs in the opening four series of the playoffs.
Amazing what an all-time great defense does for your rep.
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:24 am
it is a problem…he should visor up next season….
umm…perscription visor that is…
if he’s not staring a receiver down, or staring at cheerleader rumperoos, he’s squinting at the scoreboard…
bruce is about ready to “go up the side of his head” right there on the sidelines 🙂
#VisorUp
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:50 am
Yeah Joe it’s arians offenses fault that jaymiss is a sorry reckless qb.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:41 am
win next week and I can hear it now, all will be forgiven,give him one more year.
BA can turn him around.
5 years wasted with excuses,how quick we forget, I thought this year was the story year.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:54 am
I can’t see what Winston is looking at in the stadium, which is where I usually am for home games. So I will say Winston doesn’t seem to see the field; he is not seeing wide open receivers and often goes to one with closer coverage and a tigher window, if not an ill-advised throw. I realize I can see the field better because of being higher in the stands and not under pressure. But still. OR, maybe he’s focusing on his hot read because he is so used to having so little time to throw. Neither one is good, particularly given he has had good protection as of late. He left a lot of big gains on the field again Saturday.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:49 am
So much for the Falcons game being a “meaningless” game….it could determine the future of Jameis & Dan Quinn…..
As far as Jameis’ staring…..that’s not the problem…..the problem is that he throws into coverage….he doesn’t see the whole field……he is overconfident with his arm….sees defenders and fires anyway…..and has no memory of his previous mistakes so he makes them again….
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:06 am
Fascinating question … Is Arians’ offense “reckless to begin with”? I vote YES. Well, make that He11 YES.
Forget Jameis’ TOTAL 28 INTs for a second & look at just his ‘Percentage of Times Intercepted When Attempting a Pass’ AND at his TD Percentage numbers.
o 2015: 2.8 INT% to 4.1 TD% … 1.46 TD/INT ratio
o 2016: 3.2 INT% to 4.9 TD% … 1.53 TD/INT ratio
o 2017: 2.5 INT% to 4.3 TD% … 1.72 TD/INT ratio
o 2018: 3.7 INT% to 5.0 TD% … 1.35 TD/INT ratio
o 2019: 4.7 INT% to 5.1 TD% … 1.09 TD/INT ratio
Not a good look … for Arians’ offense as well as for Jameis. My analysis doesn’t count for much, but what I’m seeing is definite improvement from 2015 through 2017, followed by a fallback in 2018 (Jameis’ suspension year?) and then his falling off a cliff in 2019.
I’m not big on EXCUSES (although it is windy out & my knee hurts so I can’t run very fast & I haven’t had breakfast yet) BUT … for ANY QB to go from a 1.72 TDs per INT ratio after his 3rd year all the way down to a 1.09 TDs per INT ratio after his 5th year tells me that something’s SERIOUSLY WRONG SOMEPLACE. And quite frankly, that’s UNACCEPTABLE.
Look at what some other YOUNG QBs are currently doing for their teams in 2019 …
o Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs 10-4): 0.9 INT% to 5.4 TD% … 6.00 TD/INT ratio
o Lamar Jackson (Ravens 12-2): 1.6 INT% to 8.9 TD% … 5.56 TD/INT ratio
o Carson Wentz (Eagles 8-7): 1.3 INT% to 4.7 TD% … 3.62 TD/INT ratio
o Deshaun Watson (Texans 10-5): 2.4 INT% to 5.3 TD% … 2.21 TD/INT ratio
o Josh Allen (Bills 10-5): 2.0 INT% to 4.4 TD% … 2.2 TD/INT ratio
o Jimmy Garappolo (49ers 12-3): 2.9 INT% to 5.9 TD% … 2.03 TD/INT ratio
And here sits Jameis with his 1.03 TD/INT ration leading the league in passing yardage and passing TDs … plus tons of INTs … with a 7-8 record. Please STOP with the excuses. Something’s SERIOUSLY WRONG SOMEPLACE. And if it doesn’t get FIXED, next year will just be another year of being outside looking in when it comes playoff time.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:19 am
If Jameis had eyes like the guy in the above picture, there is not a defender in the league that could read them.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:27 am
If he throws 2 or 3 picks against Atlanta and we lose because of them I would not resign. If we win I would offer one year at 15 mil and if he refuses see ya.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:37 am
The one thing I don’t understand is why Jameis is So Much Better on the Road most of his Picks have come at home this year
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:51 am
Because he often can’t read defenses until he sees the open guy…and it is too late by then…
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Imagine if you will..
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you were not a Tampa fan and you were tasked with evaluating Jameis after his 5th year
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:28 am
And actually Jameis’s passes are too accurate. Receivers expect them to be off an inch or two, and they won’t always hit them in stride as they break away from defenders. But Jameis’s are so good, that they find themselves concentrating on other things, and simply drop the ball. Of course, with those gale force winds that we had on Saturday, it is particularly remarkable that his passes were still right on target with no exceptions. And those Ints…newsflash… the Texans had a secret mind reading device that allowed them to know where and when Jameis was throwing the ball. They didn’t take advantage of soft and off target, or stared down passes… they new what he was thinking. It wasn’t at all on him. BTW…they told me he is still wondering what those cockroaches were doing.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:36 am
Wasnt the last interception the same play he was intercepted, when he threw to Barber in the 49ers game?
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:54 am
Why make things up. Might want to re-read what was written here. –Joe
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:09 am
He might not “stare down” a WR
But he seems to throw to a pre determined read a lot no matter what the coverage is. Which is not smart football or the sign of a good decision maker
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:19 am
Jameis sees his receivers through that special glass belly button the sports science team surgically transplanted this offseason…so that he can actually SEE (somewhat) the field with his HEAD UP HIS ASS!
We can NEVER win more than 10 games with this dude. Ever.
I’m tired of reading the same old sh!t relating to his high ceiling.
The unflushable turd 💩 is that Jameis will never hit CTRL-ALT-DEL on his penchant for leading the league in turnovers.
Over it.
Let him go be an all-pro, Super Bowl winning WB elsewhere because as a Buc, he and we are cursed.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:20 am
QB
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:27 am
i wish BA would just hold JW accountable…..lol…
this is BS…..
if he’s looking off safeties, he aint looking the right way…..lol….
GO BUCS!!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:44 am
Perfect pic!
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:47 am
Crazy idea why don’t we run and cut and go route early in the game where Jameis does a pump fake and the when the CB jumps out of his jock thinking he has a pick-6 Jameis throws it deep for an easy TD. You do that once or twice and corners won’t be sitting on that route anymore. Am I missing something ?
I am encouraged by Todd Bowles and the BUCS D. They made the Texans look like crap. You cannot run on us and it is getting harder and harder to pass on us. We need to bring back JPP and Shaq Barrett of course. I think we are a good safety away from being a top-5 D. That said first round we should look and see who falls to us. Could be a DT, Safety or O-Lineman.
I am so confused by Jameis I really do not know what to make of him but I trust Arians to make the right decision and I trust him and Licht to draft a possible replacement if Jameis cannot shake off his intercepting ways. We most likely are not going to be in a position to get one of the big 3 (Burrow, Tua, Hebert) but we could snag one who is a little raw in the 2nd round or 3rd round and develop him so if Jameis never improves or gets hurt he starts.
The problem is – is we are not 100% whose fault the picks are Arians did bring up a good point that he trusts his receivers a little too much sometimes. Would be nice to have a good running back too so Jameis doesn’t have to throw 50 times a game as that honestly is a recipe for disaster.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:05 am
Joe … IF the REAL problem is BA’s ‘Bombs Away’ offense more than it is Jameis, Bucs’ fans NEED to know that. Otherwise we’ll throw Jameis to the curb, bring in another QB to run the show, and STILL miss the playoffs. All of the OTHER pieces are coming together nicely, but something’s SERIOUSLY WRONG SOMEPLACE in the QBing area and it’s hurting this TEAM big-time. It’s EITHER Jameis himself OR the offensive system itself.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:28 am
I hope Arians health hold up another 5 years. This team has really improved over the last month. I love Arians straight forth demeanor and I am very confident that he’s gonna get the QB in there to get this team over the hump weather that be Jameis or someone else. Ok even if Jameis stares down his receivers 50% of his interceptions come on throwing into crowed areas where you have 2 to 3 defenders or he throws it right to the defender as if he just don’t see the defender all and all this team is playing good Football on both size of the ball
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:38 am
The coddling BA does for Jameis is really something. We’ve been watching Jameis for five years, he stares down receivers. He does, denying it makes BA look like an ass. To say he doesn’t is one thing, but to say he looks off receivers is to much is just a fantasy. Does BA think we’re all blind fools? The only blind fool when it comes to Jameis besides Joe, is Arians.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:35 am
Holand,
I agree with you. Arians seems to always just want to antagonize the media. Yes, there are throws I’ve seen him make looking the first option off, but in general, he stares down the receiver more than most! We all see it.
It is okay to look at your receiver before you throw it ONLY if the guy covering him has his back turned QB AND there is no safety help. Even in that case, you better get the ball out quick & throw to where the receiver is going to make his break. Brady is a master at that.
December 23rd, 2019 at 11:43 am
DR
JW has thrown picks no matter what system.
December 23rd, 2019 at 2:51 pm
ANyone with eye balls can see him staring down receivers over and over and over. Me and my buddy were talking about it all game long as he kept doing it.
Why does no one have the balls to call Bullchit Bruce out when he lies like this? It’s plain as day to anyone watching.
I’ve supported Winston a lot but am always critical when he plays poorly, and this has been my biggest issue with him since he came into the league!
He constantly stares receivers down! Almost never looks them off. Never pump fakes, etc.
Why?????? It’s year 5
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:34 pm
Thanks to whoever asked that question and thanks for sharing Joe. I’ve heard this a lot from fans too and always wondered if it was bullspit or not. Personally I don’t focus too much on the QB when I watch a game so I don’t notice this.
Unfortunately it’s inpossible to take coach speak very seriously. These guys aren’t always gonna give you the full story in order to protect their players.
I realize Arians will cut loose on some players but that is most likely calculated and utilized as motivation for specific players. Sure seems like Bruce will never get harsh with Jameis in front of cameras. Probably because Winston deals with a lot of public critism and it’s counterproductive to fuel that fire.
But great question that needed to be asked. But not so sure we can take the answer very seriously.