Sneaky Carl Nassib
December 7th, 2019
Secret strength.
Yes, there is no doubt that when it comes to pass rushers, Shaq Barrett is getting attention.
And he should. The Bucs pass rusher leads the NFL in sacks. Joe honestly has to check to make sure he isn’t drinking when he types that previous sentence.
That’s incredible, clearly. And yes, when Jason Pierre-Paul came back from his broken neck, that made a difference in the defense, particularly helping keep traffic off Barrett.
One guy, however, seems lost in the shuffle. That would be fellow pass rushing outside linebacker Carl Nassib. The Cleveland reject has been reborn with the Bucs and is sneaky good, as Jenna Laine of ESPN documents.
Shaq Barrett may be getting most of the attention up front for the Bucs’ defense but don’t overlook these guys: Carl Nassib’s got a league-high 22% pass rush win rate versus double teams. @NdamukongSuh has seen the fifth-most double teams (137) in the league.
— JennaLaineESPN (@JennaLaineESPN) December 2, 2019
That is impressive. Of course, like JPP, Nassib was injured earlier in the year but he’s now healthy, which helps Barrett as well.
The Bucs have a whole bunch of defenders potentially hitting the free agent market this off season including Ndamukong Suh, Barrett, JPP and Nassib.
Who stays and who goes?
December 7th, 2019 at 8:03 am
Suh goes draft a younger version in the second or third round.
December 7th, 2019 at 8:04 am
Winston or Barrett can’t franchise both take your pick.
December 7th, 2019 at 8:08 am
I pick Barrett over Winston. Yet, if the Bucs pick Winston – I say the professionals know more than us here.
December 7th, 2019 at 8:13 am
I pick all of them over Winston!
December 7th, 2019 at 8:15 am
Half of the delusional optimists had the Cleveland reject in the hall of fame already after last year….
December 7th, 2019 at 8:17 am
Sack Barrett, Sack Barrett, Sack Barrett.
December 7th, 2019 at 8:25 am
Buccaneerscotty
I’m guessing you also liked VH3
December 7th, 2019 at 8:30 am
It’s time to use some of that fuzzy math and keep them all. The cap is going to skyrocket with the new CBA. Sign all these guys to current contract dollars. When the cap goes up everyone will looking to get paid. QB 40 mil, WR 20 mil, DE 25 mil, CB 22mil, Guards 18 mill punters 5 mill. Sign them now, will be a bargain in 2021
December 7th, 2019 at 8:32 am
I want them all but in the end youth should be the deciding factor. The only flaw to that thinking might be the sacrifice of leadership…. hmmmm
December 7th, 2019 at 8:32 am
We should definitely resign Nassib. This is player who is very difficult to block, every single play. Play after play game after game. He has that C on his chest for a reason. Just not in this photo. He has that switch that flips on game day. Beating 22% of his double teams, that is very difficult to replace. He us young and getting better, why would we not want to resign him.
December 7th, 2019 at 8:38 am
Trade Brate and his huge contract, and keep them all!
December 7th, 2019 at 9:08 am
I would like to see them all come back if it was possible. It’s really tough to say but yeah, I’ll have to let Suh go and keep the rest. As D. White starts to grow hell be able to help with the run.
The edge is one of the hardest spot to replace.
December 7th, 2019 at 9:11 am
You don’t need to get rid of Brate to keep them – we have something on the order of ~90 million available. Keep Shaq, JPP and Nassib. Keep Winston. Keep Suh if he is willing to stay for less than 9 mill. We also have Beau Allen a free agent. We want to keep him or Suh.
Oh, and Godwin is in line for an extension as well. Pay the man.
Draft a RT in the first or second round, and an RB in 3 and let Peyton Barber walk.
Get hyped for 2020. Secondary finally learning how to play, and give the team a whole off-season where they actually already know the systems and the potential for next year is really exciting.
December 7th, 2019 at 9:11 am
Just re-structure Brate- we don’t have to trade or cut him. He is our best TE. OJ more potential, but Brate doesn’t care about potential, he just goes to work.
December 7th, 2019 at 9:24 am
Brate is hump great to low standard bucfan but pure garbage in the minds of real football people…. props for the little chump getting paid but he’s been outed for the mediocre receiver he is. Hump like brate are nothing more below average low ceiling players that benefited from the 3rd greatest buc of all time America’s Quarterback mr jameis Winston.
Jameis will get more recivers paid over the next 15 years most likely at double the rate of AOC’s job creation numbers…..
December 7th, 2019 at 9:31 am
KEEP THEM ALL. Very nice tidbit Joe that Suh has the 5th most double-teams in the NFL (137) this year. He’d probably be first if not for Vita Vea (teams have to pick their poison on who to double team). Expecting to replace a highly experienced veteran leader like Suh (a 1st Round beast IMO) with a 3rd or 4th round ROOKIE DT is ludicrous. You WILL lose production, and our entire DLine’s effectiveness in BOTH the run defense and pass rush will suffer. He’s well worth the $8-$10 mil that he can get elsewhere IF he even still wants to play another year or two (that’s the unknown). I’d re-sign him to a 2-year contract IF he wants to stay.
Keeping Barrett at age 27 shouldn’t even be up for discussion. Only LOSERS let the NFL’s sack leader walk, especially when the other aspects of his game are so strong. He’ll probably require $14-$16 mil to stay, but he’s worth that, PROVIDING we keep a strong DLine to break him free. Without this supporting cast, Shaq wouldn’t be nearly as effective IMO (and I suspect he knows that).
Nassib has also acquitted himself well this year, and is only 26 himself. Anthony Nelson’s younger (22) but he’s shown nothing so far to indicate that he’ll unseat Carl for a starters’ role or even a key rotational role. Nassib will probably command around $7-$8 mil and he’s a good value at that price. Re-sign him also.
JPP is another no-brainer far as I’m concerned. A healthy JPP wreaks havoc on opposing offenses. He’s the ULTIMATE DLine beast IMO. Even at age 30 I’d guess he’s still got a good 3-4 years left in the tank. PAY THE MAN.
Re-signing all FOUR will require some creative salary Cap management admittedly, but NOT paying them risks having our defense perform like it did at the beginning of the year. Then we’d be right back at the break-even year (at best). We’ve got the making of a Top-10 defense already here; we just need to PAY OUR DLINE to keep them for at least another 2 years in order to be able to make a run at the playoffs.
December 7th, 2019 at 9:51 am
People are worried about keeping both Winston and Barrett as you can only franchise 1 but I heard Ian Rappaport on the radio and since the CBA is 2021 there is a transition tag essentially what that does is it allows you final say on a player meaning you could match the offer. I would say you Franchise Shaq Barrett if you cannot sign him and transition tag Winston if you cannot workout a reasonable contract for him by reasonable I mean 20 million or under a year. Next JPP mainly should definitely be signed but should come down and Nassib won’t be pricey either. You trade/cut Brate as he is a non-profit factor and you dangle a long term deal in front of Godwin for 10 or so million a year. The last priority INMHO should be SUH as you may be able to draft someone better than him but he is good for what he does if the price is right. We honestly should heavily load up on O-lineman in the draft and pick a QB in the 2nd round to groom in case Winston stays turnover prone remember he is only 25 and could play for 15 more years at a high level. Look at Peyton, Eli Manning’s early careers as well as Favre and even Brady.
December 7th, 2019 at 10:13 am
there is this thing called restructuring contracts that will free up enough cap space if they want to, so I dont think anyone is going unless coache dont want them
December 7th, 2019 at 10:18 am
B.D
Why restructure when you should upgrade…. keeping same mediocre crap you lose with year after year is the definition of football insanity
December 7th, 2019 at 10:19 am
also will find out how much the players believe in this team turning it around…
more likely to stay if the money is about the same..
December 7th, 2019 at 10:23 am
DR: I have a strong feeling JPP will retire. His earlier accident/broken neck scared him. He’s wealthy and has won all the honors he so aptly deserved. He’s 30 and set for life after football. Nassib and Barrett will be back. Suh? They will draft Dline just like OLine–older players are retiring. This defense is beginning to feel its chops. Bowles will make sure it continues to improve.
December 7th, 2019 at 10:33 am
JPP is not retiring. Stupid logic. He almost had his life and career taken away yet the first chance he had he got back on the field? He’s playing with maybe more passion and heart than ever and despite angling to become a free agent and make big money he’s gonna retire? You wouldn’t want to make a wager with me, would you? Sometimes when something is taken away you realize how much you love and need it. JPP has had this happen twice.
December 7th, 2019 at 10:36 am
Nassib is a stud. His work might not always show on the stat sheet but his impact is always there. He is the kind of player that anchors a D for years. Sapp and Rice got a ton of deserving credit for the old Bucs pass rush, but Greg Spires was the Crane that did all the dirty work to make it all possible. Nassib is a more physically talented, maybe even harder working version of Spires. He must be retained.
December 7th, 2019 at 10:44 am
Ramdog. Sorry but it’s unrealistic to think Jameis will sign with the Bucs for 20 million. 25 per year front loaded with it guaranteed might get it done if he wants to win more than make money.
December 7th, 2019 at 11:02 am
orlbucfan … JPP indicated just the other day that he’d like to stay in Tampa. i don’t think he would’ve said that if he was planning to retire after this year. Bucs can’t afford to spend a high draft pick on someone to replace Suh (too many other higher priority NEEDS … like OLine & RB & 3rd WR for starters). We could draft a DT in the 4th or 5th rounds, but then you’re talking an ‘Anthony Nelson’ type player … potentially good at some point in the future but not right away. Besides, a draft pick like that should be used to replace Beau Allen (who’s a UFA), not Suh.
Sorry, but Suh & JPP, along with LVD, are the veteran GLUE holding this defense together. We’ve got about a 2-year window IMO to go for the gusto. Without a Top-10 defense though, we’ll miss out I’m convinced. We NEED a Top-10 defense to clean up the messes that our high-scoring but schizophrenic offense leaves behind … ESPECIALLY against the better teams who we don’t usually play all that well against. Funny this is … THOSE good teams are the ones who make the playoffs.
December 7th, 2019 at 11:34 am
Nassib at $6 to 7 mil is a greater value than will gholston at 4.5. If we are picking expendables
December 7th, 2019 at 12:17 pm
Barrett, Nassib, JPP need to be signed and possibly Suh depending on the $. Winston maybe. Release or trade Brate, Gholston, Allen, Perriman, Dotson & Gabbert. There are other players that could be released that are making around a mil. that won’t be missed.
December 7th, 2019 at 12:51 pm
Joe when u said this line-And yes, when Jason Pierre-Paul came back from his broken neck, that made a difference in the defense. I should of said *in curt angle voice “from a broken freaking neck”
December 7th, 2019 at 1:46 pm
Gotta find a way to keep all 4 IMO (Suh, Barrett, JPP and Nassib).
Plenty of creative ways to structure contracts. Barrett will be most expensive of course. We could try franchising him for another year, but it seems he wants to be here.
Him and Jameis both have the same agent, so those negotiations might get tough. If we’re keeping Jameis, it needs to be for 20m/year or less in order to sign these other guys.
December 7th, 2019 at 7:03 pm
Wave goodbye to Jameis and sign them all. Cheap rookie qb’s are all the rage nowadays. Barring a miracle Jameis will never be worth young franchise qb money. Do not make the Jared Goff mistake like the Rams did. If Jameis wants to hold a clipboard and be a cheerleader for 3-4 million per year then I am down with him staying.
December 7th, 2019 at 10:08 pm
Keep all of them, figure it out. market cam brate and anybody else that isn’t finding their niche
December 8th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
We’ve havent had a Dline rotation like this in forever. Keep them all bit if you.dod have to let 1.go.it would ha e to be Suh. I like him but I dont love him. We need all of our DE’ s