“Perfect Recipe”
December 27th, 2019
A former teammate of Byron Leftwich let the nation in on a conversation the two had.
And Joe finds it intriguing.
Former Steelers left tackle Max Starks won a couple of Super Bowl rings with Pittsburgh and was coached by Bucco Bruce Arians in Pittsburgh and in Arizona. He also blocked for Leftwich in the Steel City.
Speaking about the Jameis Winston experience this week on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Starks said he spoke to Leftwich about Jameis and learned the Bucs’ offensive coordinator has a soft spot for America’s Quarterback.
“Talking to Byron, he has an affection for Jameis because he reminds him a lot of himself,” Starks said. “And he’s a guy that has a big arm, a big heart, and a true team leader and the guys follow him and they trust him.”
The combination the Leftwich love, Arians’ presence and experience with QBs, and the Bucs playing themselves out of a high draft pick, is the “perfect recipe” for Jameis to return next season on the franchise tag “and then allow the chips to fall where they may and decide his future after next year.”
Joe has no doubt that a confident pair like Arians and Leftwich believe (rightly or wrongly) that they can fix Jameis, or at least get him down to one turnover per game next season.
“Huge arm talent, high-risk, high-reward” is how Starks described Jameis.
Like Starks, Joe expects the Bucs are heavily leaning toward franchising Jameis and kicking the big-commitment can down the road with a head coach who turns 68 next October.
December 27th, 2019 at 5:43 am
It’s business decission – and I’d start with the D line. Sign Shaq, JPP, Suh and Nassib and check how much money is left for a QB.
Let’s ride the D to the playoffs.
December 27th, 2019 at 5:58 am
Perfect recipe for disaste.
December 27th, 2019 at 6:07 am
Many still don’t see the dichotomy that exists in Jameis. He’s demonstrated over & over that he NEEDS a strong defense, excellent receivers, solid OLine & good running game to win enough games to get us to the Promised Land. And yet, all that supporting STUFF costs money … money that Jameis’ camp feels they need to stay with the Bucs. Thus the dichotomy: Pay Jameis what he wants; no STUFF. Pay for the STUFF; no Jameis … unless we franchise tag him, which still impacts the amount of supporting STUFF we can buy to get us where we want to go.
Wow! Dichotomy, dilemma, conundrum. Maybe enigma should be added to that list.
December 27th, 2019 at 6:08 am
Lol lol let’s ride the D… no pun intended I hope
December 27th, 2019 at 6:32 am
Who was the last qb who couldn’t protect the ball that got to the playoffs?
December 27th, 2019 at 6:34 am
Yes Defense Rules—Jameis is a major enigma.I feel that our coaching staff will continue to fix Jameis,our running game,and our lines,and take us to the playoffs next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 27th, 2019 at 6:35 am
One franchise tag and you have 2 players who say will get slapped with one. Make a pick on who it will be and stick to it.
Franchise Shaq and 1 year deal for Jameis near QB franchise number with incentives.
December 27th, 2019 at 6:59 am
Defense Rules
You are right, but this is one of your shorter posts, usually it’s like Another separate article. Actually to be fair you sometimes write more than even Joe.
Point is…… YOU ARE CORRECT
December 27th, 2019 at 7:21 am
ElBajito43 … LMAO. Some of the generals I worked for in the military used to tell me the same thing (‘keep it down to one page’ was how they normally put it). Not that hard to do I found out; just use smaller fonts.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:27 am
While Defense Rules is spot on, it is from strictly a football perspective!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is not “realistic ” of the dynamics at play right now!!!!!!!!!!! Jay-miss has all the leverage!!!!!!!!!!! So much so, that he can throw another 3 pick 6’s and demand for 34 million per year after the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some forget the house of cards that is currently setup at OneBuc!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because if Jay-miss is not here, then why is the garbage GM??????? If Jay-miss is not here, then why is Ole Stale Biscuit???????? They already admitted that the garbage gm is only hear because ole stale biscuit then the secret extension for no reason was revealed!!!!!!! If one component is removed then it will all collapse, even though it will all be exposed during next year, when the schedule is not the cake walk that it was this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 27th, 2019 at 7:38 am
Fixing Jameis…….only Jameis can fix Jameis….he’s had plenty of coaching….he’s had pending contract situations….
The non-exclusive franchise tag will give him a chance to test the market while protecting our interests…..we either get Jameis with that or get two 1st round picks or match whatever he’s offered.
We should be able to sign Shaq to a two or three year contract with 1 or 2 years guaranteed…..I’d say somewhere around $13 mil should do it.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:45 am
Don’t get me wrong I’m definitely not a fan of Winston but i understand business so there’s a good chance he’s coming back…i asked Santa for a above average running back and one more above average offensive lineman to give Winston! He gets NO MORE EXCUSES AFTER THAT
December 27th, 2019 at 7:50 am
@tampabaybucfan
Your figures are off!!!!!!!!!! Its because you did not have the correct components to add up!!!!!!!!! 13 million was what an old JPP was getting!!!!!!!!!!! ShaqB has more sacks, is younger, the cap also jumped another 10 million, meaning a higher percentage, and you better check who his agent is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16 to 17 million is close to “reality” with it only going down to 15 million if 3 to 4 years is guaranteed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 27th, 2019 at 7:53 am
The Bucs only win streaks have been aided by by some pretty stout defensive play. Its hard to deny that the defense is a coequal part of the team’s success.
I would hope Jameis turns his focus from the show me the money reports we have heard, to what he will accept to make this team better.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:56 am
We’re the only idiot franchise that needs 6 years to know if our QB sucks or not. LOL. It’s a Bucs life.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:59 am
They trust him to throw 3 1st quarter interceptions
December 27th, 2019 at 7:59 am
Realisto writes like a 12 year old girl with all of that punctuation! Too bad we can’t use emojis here because she would have a field day. Listen little lady, “stale biscuit” has taken a 5-11 team and on the cusp of going 8-8 (should be at least 8-7 right now if Gay makes a 27 yard field goal). The truth will be revealed soon to the sheep what real fans already know. Jameis will be back and the team will be in the playoffs next year led by a great coach and a rookie o-coordinator who is leading the team to a top 3 offensive finish! Now go bake a cake and powder your nose!
December 27th, 2019 at 8:02 am
we have to keep this D together, it has been a long road to respectability. JW has earned another prove it year, but not a long term contract. However, if he does get a long term deal. I do t get the feeling he will change for the dryer or worse. He will still work hard, be a warrior on the field, throw for yds, TD’s and loads of INT’s. One thing he has largely avoided thus far is injuries. Dude is tough. But as he ages, he will break down. We need a strong backup plan, draft one from 2-4 round and/or FA upgrade. We need depth for JW.
We also need an industrial sized vacuum to clean up El Unrealistico’s negativity, looks like he has found his narrative to pollute the message boards until next season. Exhausting, boring and toxically negative. 👎 GO AWAY and stay AWAY, it was such a pleasant stretch of winning and you had nothing to say!
In BA I Trust!
December 27th, 2019 at 8:05 am
Ugh, fat thumbs on the phone. I get the feeling he won’t change, for the better or worse.
In BA I Trust!
December 27th, 2019 at 8:05 am
I personally am hoping somehow he leaves because I am convinced most of the negative posters on this board just show up to rip him. Maybe if he’s gone we can start to get some real FANS back in here. You guys first don’t understand football and second have a bias that does not allow you to see the truth in each case like sometimes it’s his fault other times it other players fault. Either way it’s sad and tiresome at the same time. And oh yeah good job keeping up the name calling like a child El Buco Realisto, grow up.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:07 am
Some of you need your melons refitted. Won’t be a deal less than $30M-3 years. Franchise tag would be obtuse since there is no viable backup plan.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:08 am
Realist…..
Perhaps….but Shaq is coming from $4 mil…….JPP had already proved himself over a period of years…..
If we don’t franchise Shaq, it would be foolish to give him a multi-year contract for more than the $13 I suggest….
Reasonable minds can disagree….but I’m not taking a huge multi-year gamble on Shaq.
Winston’s situation may cause us to use the franchise tag on him….that is where the problem lies.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:13 am
“Look at those eyes
The eyes are the window to the soul
Those eyes are saying
I’m licking my fingers dreaming of the $30 mil”
Kobe Faker
December 27th, 2019 at 8:18 am
C,mon now TBTB,
IF you think Gay’s failure to make that kick is the only reason we did not reach
8-7, then you may have also been
in the kitchen baking some very potent brownies.
Jameis will be probably be back if he is willing to accept a contract that doesn’t force the team to jettison the important additions to our defense.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:22 am
Defense rules, thank you for your service and the morning laugh. It is true. “Not that hard to do I found out; just use smaller fonts”.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:22 am
You mean a below average QB with a slow release?
December 27th, 2019 at 8:26 am
Uh Bob, you are correct, I didn’t mention the Titans game where the refs blew a fumble and whistled it dead costing us a game, and the Seahawks game where the defense completed imploded. If we had won the coinstoss in overtime of that game we would have won as well. So I stand corrected. This team should be 9-6 at a minimum, or 10-5 based on the offenses performance in the Seahawks and just a tiny bit of defense or a coin toss had gone our way. Thanks for pointing out the deficiency in my argument.
Yes, when the offense drives it down to the 20 yard line in the last seconds of the game, yes, a professional field goal kicker should make that kick.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:28 am
To counter argument, are you saying if Gay makes that easy kick we don’t win that game? Really nothing to argue here man. It really is that simple.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:29 am
Let’s see how many more millions of dollars Jaymiss can lose for himself on Sunday against the Fowlclowns.
December 27th, 2019 at 8:38 am
Some of you need to read this article on Drew Brees then get back to me.
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/26/brian-schottenheimer-drew-brees-chargers-draft-phillip-rivers/amp/
December 27th, 2019 at 8:45 am
sign JW to a 4year 100mil contract with 2years 50mil guaranteed…..25mil a year is great for a QB that led the league in INTs in a contract year and never sniffed the playoffs….
pay SHAQ, JPP, suh, nassib, perriman, minter, ryan smith…..
consistency is key!!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!!
December 27th, 2019 at 8:46 am
where’s @LUV when you need him?…..lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!
December 27th, 2019 at 9:01 am
TDTB … Blaming the Giants loss on Matt Gay misses the BIGGER PICTURE IMO. Every point you score, every point you don’t score, every point you give up and every point you don’t give up ALL go into winning or losing. It really doesn’t matter WHEN those points are scored. Or NOT scored.
Matt Gay made FOUR FGs in that game, the longest being a 52 yarder. He missed ONE. Just prior to Gay making his 4th FG with 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter, Bucs had a 3rd & 2 at the NYG 5-yard line. Barber got the call to run up the middle … and got STUFFED for no gain, then the Bucs opted to kick the FG … putting us ahead by SIX points (we were leading by 3 points at the time). The Giants subsequent TD & XP meant we were losing by ONE point with 1:21 still to play. As we all know, Bucs drove down the field, stalled with a 1st & goal with 13 seconds left at the NYG 9 yard line, spiked the ball then took a delay of game (-5 yards) then ran for -2 yards THEN attempted the FG.
So what play REALLY lost the game TDTB? Was it settling for a FG at 6:48 left in the game from the NYG 5-yard line when we were already winning by 3 points? Was it the series of negative plays at the NYG 9-yard line when we had 13 seconds left in the game? Was it the defense giving up a Giants TD with 1:21 left in the game? Was it settling for FOUR FGs earlier in the game instead of scoring TDs?
Take your pick is my answer. Any one of them (and many others) impacted the final result: Losing.
December 27th, 2019 at 9:05 am
After five years of being on the Winston roller coaster I’m feeling like throwing up. I’m sick of the excuses, the I can’t turn the ball overs. I’m sick of looking at that blank stare after one of his multi turnover games. The guy has been exhausting since he’s been here. I know he ain’t going nowhere, because Licht, and the Glazers measure success by signing players to over blown contracts, not by results on the field. I’d like us to move on, but I know we won’t.
December 27th, 2019 at 9:10 am
As I’ve said many times on this site. My thinking is, the Bucs will franchise Jameis and draft a QB in the second round and develop him over next year. If Jameis turn into a great QB then they trade the other QB for draft picks. If Jameis doesn’t change then you have your QB one with 1 full season in Arians system I just hope we don’t lose any of our main coaches for the next 2 year at least
December 27th, 2019 at 9:35 am
Winston can be fixed with another year in this system. Franchise him and give Shaq a contract, he deserves it. Can you even get a QB who can throw over 400 yds with an average of 3 TD’s during those games?
December 27th, 2019 at 9:38 am
Hes 25 you idiots!
He needs 5 more years!
Think long term.
Like a Lebanese planting Olive trees for 50 years down the road.
We need 5 more years for Jameis and the Bucs to realistically become the Next Patriots.
Drew Brees: 39 (thumb issues)
Tom Brady: 42 (elbow issues)
Ben Rothlisberger: 36 (elbow issues)
Cam Newton: done
Matt Ryan: almost done
Philip Rivers: almost done
Aaron Rodgers: 36 and still pimpin
We need to keep Jameis! There is a”changing of the guards” coming to the NFL.
December 27th, 2019 at 9:54 am
Page not found. Kinda similar to your “facts” defending the indefensible. In other words, they don’t exist.
December 27th, 2019 at 9:59 am
Or Defense we could just not allow a first time starting rookie QB go 23-36 for 336 and 2 TDs while dropping 2 picks and also allowing him to run for 28 yards and 2 more TDs. Then to top it all off allowing him to march right down the field for the game winning TD with just over 2:50 left in the game.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:08 am
Ok D-Rome since that think didn’t work simply search:
Drew Brees called Chargers’ decision to pick new QB ‘worst mistake ever’
And BTW FACTS do exist that’s why their called FACTS tough guy. They can’t be made up or changed with an uninformed opinion like yours. Also how about the post today from out good friend Jameis 1of1 where he posted the below, which proves my point about Jameis being asked to play a different game than everyone else:
Various #NFL QB W/L Record in 2019 Games w/ 40+ Pass Attempts:
#BUCS JAMEIS WINSTON✊🏿: 4-5 🔥🔥🔥
Wentz: 3-5
Ryan: 2-5
Dak Prescott: 1-6🤮
Goff: 1-5🤮
Rivers: 0-4
Russell Wilson: 1-2
Stafford: 0-2-1
Rodgers: 1-1
Watson: 1-1
Jimmy G: 1-1
Mayfield: 0-2
Soon-2-be MVP Lamar: 0-1
December 27th, 2019 at 10:11 am
Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:
“Who was the last qb who couldn’t protect the ball that got to the playoffs?”
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Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger & Peyton Manning, to name a few.
Just answering the question. I am sure there are more.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:11 am
I found the article referenced by Ndog (page link is blank, but related content still there). Titled “ Worst Mistake Ever”. It’s what Drew Brees told Brian Schottenheimer after learning that San Diego was targeting a QB in draft. Good read. Draw your own conclusions.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:16 am
In the glory days of the NFL, when we were not as hyper-sensitive to the interception…
Some of the game’s most legendary gunslingers were pretty similar to Jameis.
Kenny Stabler, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw….
December 27th, 2019 at 10:23 am
LOL! Now I know you’re trolling 😀
December 27th, 2019 at 10:30 am
Ndog … Thanks for making my point. EVERY POINT scored or NOT scored factors into winning & losing … for BOTH teams. Doesn’t really matter when those points are scored IMO. And to put the blame for a loss on a single player is just searching for scapegoats. Similarly though to give credit for a win to a single player for a win is just as silly. You win & lose as a TEAM.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:40 am
Defense, easy to say that but Winston and the offense marched them right down the field and set up a chip shot field goal at the end. This is the NFL and most games come down to couple of key plays. A 27 yard field goal as time expires is a pretty key play. With the team trailing and little time left the 11 players on offense did their part. The key play in that game that would ultimately determine who would win came down to a chip shot and the kicker choked. This isn’t college and there are no cupcakes. When the game is on the line a kicker gets paid a lot of money to make those kicks as well as the others that he was able to make in that game. If Winston throws a pick there would all of his detractors say it didn’t matter because the game should have already been won?
December 27th, 2019 at 10:49 am
Jameis is like BL with that long, slow windup to pass. It makes for too long on the ball holding scene and leads Jameis toward screwing things up.
There is some disconnect between Jameis’ practice and film work, and the field on game day. It has always been there and probably always will. That is one reason we should let him walk away. Let him go and do josh Freeman for some other team and melt down and out of the league.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:52 am
TB Demon, I am old enough to see all those guys play. NONE were the consistent turnover machines like Famous Jamis. INTs? Sure. But, nothing like we have.
December 27th, 2019 at 11:01 am
“They trust him” is the worst comment you can make about a QB. Seriously, do they have to ask team mates of Brees, Brady, etc, if they “trust” their QB???
December 27th, 2019 at 11:04 am
I was all for the franchise tag at first. However somebody on twitter made a great point. If we franchise him and the number of picks he threw this year is just an outlier based on learning a new system and He throws for 5K yards, 30-35 TD’s with 15 int’s and make the playoffs you have set yourself up to potentially have to pay him 40 mill a year.
When you could lock him up for 31-32 mill for 3-4 years with at team option at the end. The talent is there so he can be traded to a team desperate for a QB on a deal still in the 30 mil range. But if you’re forced to pay him 40 mil because he had a great second year and then falls back to the same ole Winston you’re pretty much stuck with the highest paid QB who balled out on a franchise tag and you cant get off the contract.
December 27th, 2019 at 11:09 am
@Tampa Bay Demon
Did any of those playoff QBs average 20 turnovers a season in the playoff years?
Your silence will be enough of an answer
December 27th, 2019 at 11:35 am
D-Rome Says-
“Talking to Byron, he has an affection for Jameis because he reminds him a lot of himself,”
You mean a below average QB with a slow release?
Thanks for that D-Rome! My keyboard just took a coffee bath!!! LMAO!
December 27th, 2019 at 11:36 am
Thank God we have Ndog to teach us all about football…he’s the only one of us that knows all things football. The rest of us are just ignorant fools who have been kidding ourselves for all the years we have been football fans.
December 27th, 2019 at 11:50 am
how can you not be affectionate. Your job. Your future depends highly on the QB.
It kind of seems that jameis is getting a second chance already. I mean is first 4 years are past. It’s this year performance and upcoming 2nd season on the offense /system/ coaching , will show improvement.
December 27th, 2019 at 11:51 am
Anonymous Says:
“TB Demon, I am old enough to see all those guys play. NONE were the consistent turnover machines like Famous Jamis. INTs? Sure. But, nothing like we have.”
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Fair enough, Anonymous, and I agree with that point. I think what I was trying to get to is that the mindset was a little bit different at that time. If the overall production and movement of the offense outweighed the turnovers, than it just was not as big of a deal. — If Jameis could even just cut his turnovers in HALF (which seems reasonable)…. he could be productive enough to be a Top 5-7 QB in the league.
December 27th, 2019 at 11:56 am
Loyaltotheend Section 312 Says:
“@Tampa Bay Demon
Did any of those playoff QBs average 20 turnovers a season in the playoff years?
Your silence will be enough of an answer”
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My silence, Loyal, was because I was at lunch, lol, but I get your point. And your overall point about too many turnovers can not be argued. I simply answered the question, that YES, some of those guys were able to lead their teams to the playoffs in years in which they had a TON of interceptions. I don’t think Jameis and the Bucs were too far away this year from doing the same. — As I said a second ago, if JW even cut them in HALF…. we could win 11 games, with the upgraded defense.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:03 pm
11-5 or 12-4 next year. First 7 games 6-1. If we keep defense together. Jameis back. Todd back. And licht hits on the draft.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
Tampa Bay Demon
If he could cut them in half yes they’d be a playoff team or least a contender for a spot
But he has not shown that ability yet so can’t trust him to do that
December 27th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
^^^ Adrnagy, I do not think you are wrong. I truly don’t. — And Licht hitting it in the draft seems like a lot stronger possibility after what we saw the combination of Licht, Arians & Bowles do together in the last draft.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:13 pm
Loyal, I can not argue that point sir. Truly can’t. There is a lot of HOPE in those sentiments, and I get that. For me, I am ready to embrace another year of seeing what happens. But I completely get it that a lot of BUCS fans have had enough of “another year”.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:14 pm
@ Demon – Winston averages 20+ turnovers a year for 5 years and all of a sudden you want him to cut them in half? FIVE FREAKING YEARS!!!!
Hope? Prayers? What have you seen that makes you think he can do that? Nothing. He’s maki9ng the same mistakes and reads that he did as a rookie…5 years later. That’s who he is…
You people are asking for a miracle.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:16 pm
I bet our attendance next year will be awful. No one wants that fool back here.
Eating interceptions for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:20 pm
T REX, he has 28 this year, which is too fricking many. I am not arguing the point. But YES, I do believe 15 is a reasonable number, next year. — 15-17, with the overall ton of production that he provides…. would make for a playoff run, with the improved defense.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:34 pm
He HAS proven before that he can do it. Over his last 6 starts of 2018 (224 attempts), he had 3 picks. — He needs to combine the balance of that approach with the aggressiveness of Bruce’s offense.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
Teddy Bridgewater!
December 27th, 2019 at 12:48 pm
@ demon – you are trying to take a slice of a season and somehow make that the norm when we’ve seen 5 years of REALITY.
It’s in his DNA. Why don’t you just let it go man? We need fans not sycophants. Winston worshippers are the worst and are hurting our franchise.
Thanks for another crappy year.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:49 pm
Demo
He has a stretch of success in meaningless games every year….after he’s been awful prior
December 27th, 2019 at 12:50 pm
Loyal if our defense played the entire season the way it’s played the last 4 weeks we would be in the playoffs without changing anything else including the TOs. Now considering the entire offense was also learning a new system which contributed to those TOs just imagine what this team can do next year if we keep all the important pieces in place.
December 27th, 2019 at 12:52 pm
T-Rex your honesty offends the Winston homers. He is who he is. Project Winston needs to be shut down. Let another team try to be a miracle worker.
December 27th, 2019 at 1:02 pm
So the people wanting our starting QB to succeed are hurting this franchise? Yeah ok bro whatever you say, do you even hear how incredibly stupid you sound?
December 27th, 2019 at 1:07 pm
T REX, I am not a sycophant, and I am most definitely a FAN. — The BUCS come before ALL, including Jameis or any other individual player. I was a fan long before and will be long after JW. No need for the insults. I know your stance, and I get it. — I simply offered an opinion.
December 27th, 2019 at 1:14 pm
The hell with Winston. Just make sure Shaq, JPP, Nassib & Suh get signed.
December 27th, 2019 at 1:18 pm
^^ Yes, make SURE Shaq, JPP, Nassib & Suh get re-signed. — And Winston.
December 27th, 2019 at 1:37 pm
Lol. Pls. I like him but I’ll rather go Winston.
Joe Says:
December 27th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
Teddy Bridgewater!
December 27th, 2019 at 1:40 pm
Carson Has 47 fumbles and 32 int in his career
Too many attempts, no consistent running game, playing from behind
Fix that and franchise him
Texans game took all his leverage, unless he lights up ATL
His agent was probably curled in fetal position after Texans game LOL
December 27th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
German buc. Agree with what you said. I told my friend earlier today that if it was up to me I’d focus all resources on to the defense an then what’s lef goes to the offense. No multi year for Winston tag him an give him another year with BA an see if he can improve if he does then sign him if not find his replacement. We should draft a QB this year in the later rounds an start developing
December 27th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
Really. No Winston ? Best qb our franchise has had. This includes no defense. No oline. No RB. No love.
Has far for bringing back all dline I don’t think so. Maybe two or 3. One of two will be back jpp or suh. You also have Nunez roches free agent. I would like to see him more in action. Gholston made is case to be back played very well. Also we have the rook Nelson yet to see.
Shaq yes
Jpp yes
Nassib yes
Nunez yes
And draft kinlaw
I would love suh back but I think the guy will go somewhere else and look for top dollar unless his love for Todd is there and his back maybe throw 3yr contract.
But for sure dline or pass rusher drafted. And sign a safety. But I would love delpit To go along dean. Smb. Davis.
One thing for sure. This defense is one or two players away. If if white or lvd stay healthy.
TOM Says:
December 27th, 2019 at 1:14 pm
The hell with Winston. Just make sure Shaq, JPP, Nassib & Suh get signed.
December 27th, 2019 at 2:04 pm
Ndog Says:
December 27th, 2019 at 1:02 pm
So the people wanting our starting QB to succeed are hurting this franchise? Yeah ok bro whatever you say, do you even hear how incredibly stupid you sound?
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It’s like taking the keys away from Grandpa before he kills someone. You have to know when the time is right. FIVE YEARS???? If you don’t know by now then you’ll never know. You idiots will make excuses next year too. It’s the same crap every year. He plays well after the season is over. I said it on here. Go check. Support the Bucs not Winston. Geez.
December 27th, 2019 at 2:57 pm
^^ Ok, the “taking the keys away” analogy was pretty funny. We all go to battle on here every day, because we are so passionate about our beloved BUCS…
…. but it’s ok to laugh every now and then too. That was pretty &$^^&$ funny.
December 27th, 2019 at 3:47 pm
If there’s any way possible that we can get Teddy Bridgewater, we have to get T Bridgewater.
December 27th, 2019 at 3:52 pm
let him walk and throw the money to the D
December 27th, 2019 at 5:28 pm
You give a QB a multi year $150 million deal if he is GREAT.
At this point in time, Jameis is NOT great.
That’s why you franchise him for 1 more year to see if Arians and Leftwich can coach him up to be Great.
And you draft/sign another QB because the rest of the team wants to win regardless of who is QB.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:23 pm
teddy cant throw deep like jameis can
December 27th, 2019 at 7:26 pm
Oh shocking, realist finally showed up b/c we lost last week after hiding during all the wins.
December 27th, 2019 at 7:27 pm
LOL @ Bridgewater.
He would be in a body bag by the end of preseason behind this o-line.
Get real people.
December 27th, 2019 at 10:07 pm
Byron nor BA has made JW better. Perhaps Leftwich would be a decent coach elsewhere but he was never an Elite QB himself.
Still find it strange of all the coaches Arians brought in. Todd Bowles was the best of the coaches he did bring. The defense got more aggressive and it has paid off.
December 28th, 2019 at 11:18 am
I personally don’t think that Jameis is fixable, but it would be crazy not to try for at least next year. Salma Hayek and Halle Berry are more likely to kidnap me and lock me in their love dungeon for a year, but ya gotta try.