Last Call For Devin White
December 29th, 2019
So how has the Buccaneers’ rookie savior linebacker, Devin White, really performed when studied through the lens of being the No. 5 overall pick it the 2019 NFL Draft?
Joe can’t avoid evaluating White without including where he was drafted. Top-5 picks are supposed to make multiple Pro Bowls in their careers and have defining impacts.
White closes out his rookie campaign today with big highs and lows, and injuries and illnesses in his first-year resumé.
He’s a good football player, as Joe expected him to be. But White has to become great for him to be worth the draft pick. At 21 years old, he’s off to a solid start.
The guy Joe loudly wanted the Bucs to draft instead of White was Jaguars defensive end Josh Allen. He’s got 10 sacks and 21 quarterback hits, one more than Jason Pierre-Paul had last year. Allen is a Pro Bowl alternate this season, despite playing for a garbage team in a tiny market.
That’s not Joe spewing a sour attitude, just holding White to a high standard that should be there for any No. 5 overall draft pick.
The Bucs say White is everything they thought they were getting with the pick. So that’s a bit comforting and there’s no reason to think he won’t improve significantly next season.
Still, Joe wants to see a big finish today from White. He should be extra fresh after missing time this year on those 21-year-old legs. There should be nothing stopping White from turning in one of his best games.
Falcons tight end Austin Hooper was in the Pro Bowl last season and arguably is playing better this season. White was drafted, in part, because he could cover tight ends. Joe would love to see that happen today, and it likely will be key to a Bucs victory.
December 29th, 2019 at 10:36 am
@Joe, You have to credit white with some of the better overall defensive play as well. Since hes the one communicating and checking at the line. I think hes a big part of the turnaround and you dont see him getting torched on slants all day like kwon did.
December 29th, 2019 at 10:39 am
Ok boomer
December 29th, 2019 at 10:48 am
Ok Boomer
Also the pro bowl is a popularity contest. You should know this by know.
December 29th, 2019 at 10:54 am
This Joe still has a raging beef against Devin White. You can’t make things up about Joe and continue to comment here. Joe has no beef. Joe wrote here that White has had a solid rookie season and that Joe expected him to be good. –Joe If the Bucs don’t draft according to Joe’s picks he’ll trash that player if he doesn’t play like Superman in his rookie season. Your bias has been unreasonable, and unfair. I wanted a pass rusher with the first pick as well but I’m not gonna trash Devin just because it didn’t happen. Joe has not trashed Devin White. –Joe Seems this Joe likes to collaborate with the Ford salesman.
Devin White will be a good LB for us. …period
December 29th, 2019 at 10:58 am
What jean said honestly I wanted josh Allen too but white has been a good player for us and will be a top level talent and one of the best players on this team for years to come.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:03 am
Are we holding JW to the same high standard?
Good question. No. Because JW is competing at his position against a slew of top-5 overall picks. White is not. –Joe
December 29th, 2019 at 11:06 am
White was also brought in to be a leader. The Bucs had a losing culture. Listen to the Bucs defenders now. White, David, JPP, and minus GMC are the reason behind the change.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:07 am
Well if we had drafted Allen we most likely wouldn’t have seen what we had in free agent Barrett and almost certainly nowhere near the 16.5 sacks he has. Allen would have gotten preferential treatment due to his draft status and we would have wasted Barrett like Denver did. We did MUCH better not drafting Allen and getting a stud LB along with our best FA signing in the last decade, if not all time.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:13 am
Joe can’t avoid evaluating White without including where he was drafted. Top-5 picks are supposed to make multiple Pro Bowls in their careers and have defining impacts.
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And our number one overall pick Yes n 2015, the original “savior” has made how many pro bowls in 5 YEARS?
Ha ha ha ……..
Silly Joe never stops being ridiculous.
Good question. It’s different and always will be. JW is competing at his position against a slew of top-5 overall picks. White is not. –Joe
December 29th, 2019 at 11:14 am
Joe,
Apply the same judgement and logic to Jameis.
See below. But to add to it. You see Joe saying Jameis should get a multiyear extension? You see Joe saying Jameis got snubbed from the Pro Bowl? Joe wrote in great detail — and discussed — that Jameis has not improved from where he was last season. Don’t join the crowd of people who only hear/read/believe what they want to. –Joe
December 29th, 2019 at 11:21 am
You can always tell when LEE is writing an article. If you listen to any podcast and he is on it just turn it off unless you would like to hear him regurgitate the same points over and over again week after week. Much rather listen to Ira and Steve alone !
Sorry, guys. But this post was 100 percent not written by Lee. Might want to re-read what is actually written here, not what you think was written. –Joe
December 29th, 2019 at 11:29 am
Wow
December 29th, 2019 at 11:50 am
Why make things up? And the bigger question is why do you keep reading the website if you think it’s so awful??
December 29th, 2019 at 11:54 am
If Jason Licht can somehow keep the D-line intact (tall order) and the secondary continues to improve Devin White could have a breakout season next year.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:58 am
Wow
December 29th, 2019 at 11:59 am
I felt Devin White improved as he got playing experience. He is the last person I’m concerned about this year.
So far as Winston, he improved in a few areas as well, though one of them was not ball security.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:00 pm
And yet Joe has stated many times that a first round DL isn’t expected to do much his first year,………. but a LB is? Joe has written that about DLs, but not top-5 DLs.–Joe
Supposed to be a “savior” right? The Bucs painted White as a savior through the spring and summer, not Joe.–Joe
Calm down man before you use up all your scary bold text!
December 29th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
Joe wrote in great detail — and discussed — that Jameis has not improved from where he was last season. – Joe
I completely disagree with that. He’s got:
• more touchdowns
• more yards
• more accuracy on deep passes
That’s improvement, buddy.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:22 pm
Faint praise and backhanded compliments = trashing no matter how bold the font you use to deny it. Devin’s rookie year looks a bit like Vita’s and that’s worked out just fine. It would be nice to have a first rounder play lights out from the starting bell but Bucs have had some rough luck… VH3, OJ, VV and DW. Maybe this year’s first pick will get off to a great start like Mike Evans… we need an OL run of picks like the DB one of this year.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:30 pm
They drafted for need ……. never good !!
You now have a middle LB on rookie salary at the #5 pick slot vs a D End 🤔
This lowers your cap by about 6 to 8 million , which just makes it allot harder to field a winner !! Keep in mind that is the cap of Nassib and Barrett , that’s the real effect of the pick !! Not white vs Allen but White vs Allen and 6 to 8 mil and the depth and or talented vets on a one year !!
#1 RULE in football ,never let a football meathead jock be in control of what they shouldn’t be in control of !!!! Team Glazers Downfall !!!!
This is about building a team not necessarily about talent and you see Clemson is again in the final and they are very advanced in how they recruit and evaluate their team and guess who has adopted a similar strategy , yep LSU !!!
Obviously the Pick was Josh Allen hands down and it’s not even close from a team building total value perspective !! White vs Allen , Barrett and Nassib , it’s an absolute no brainer .
But from a Bowles perspective , well he needed a mlb way worse than a DE and you now see / know why Licht dresses like a slob and or the results of Licht without guidance !!!
To end :White is a good player and Licht does some things good but the Glazers need a Rick McKay type to make prudent decisions and provide Macro outlooks to Micro Meatheads !!! The Math is real People it’s just that their isn’t a real person putting it in place let alone the ability to recognize it !!
Billion dollar Team, 200 million $ payroll and Lichts in Charge !!! Think About That !!!
December 29th, 2019 at 12:42 pm
I was all about Allen as well and disappointed with the selection of an off the ball LB. That being said, with Barrett and JPP, we wouldn’t have needed Allen this season. Hopefully, White can keep taking strides to being the best ILB in the league.
December 29th, 2019 at 12:56 pm
Ha ha lots of people written reading comprehension problems getting jacked by Joe. No where had he trashed him just saying what he expects from him. So what’s the problem?
December 29th, 2019 at 1:38 pm
A matter of personal preference….
I grow quickly bored with guys who come here to toot their own horn…with “I told you so”…should have taken my pick instead…
Now Joe is doing it…screw Allen Joe!!! He’s a freaking Jaguar not a Buc!!! He plays a totally different position and who makes the biggest impact. Sacks are important but you’ve become so freaking sack crazy you sound like Lovie with his take aways.
Somebody needs to cover the entire field…White plays the position that can do that…Allen does not! Allen has been healthy..White has not.
Could we at least wait the traditional three years on a draft class before claiming bragging rights?
December 29th, 2019 at 2:16 pm
White TD!!!!! Lmao !!!! The Joe who wrote this needs to take a step back and look at things from a different perspective .
December 29th, 2019 at 2:33 pm
Another scoop and score for White!!!!! Um what last call, the one youve made up Joe? Come on man lol.
December 29th, 2019 at 3:09 pm
Been a long season guys ! Everyone need to ease up . White looks better every game , JW coming back no doubt ! JW is in every conversation due to his position on the team and his erratic play . This team will live and die by JW till he is gone , hence the sorry state of the team the last several years !
December 29th, 2019 at 4:28 pm
How bout that 91 yard TD run from white joe?
December 29th, 2019 at 4:41 pm
Again…Joe would rather have Allen, JPP, Shaq, and Nassib with David & Minter at LB. It just makes no sense.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
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Oh. Hey. So you are open
Thouth it smells right
Can i plug hole ? I saw the pitt game
Gorgeous
Let me find another channel to talk
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He is fow real
December 29th, 2019 at 6:44 pm
If I could wave a magic wand and switch out Devin White for Josh Allen, I would do it in a heartbeat. Mind you, this is after Devin had his second touchdown of the year and a solid overall game today. Good pass rushers are hard as hell to find and getting one on a 5 year rookie deal is a blessing. I like White and I even apologized for making fun of him once he turned things around, but you have to be realistic about these things.
Josh Allen is like scoring Grey Goose at a party and Devin White would be the equivalent of Heineken. Both are good, but one is a lot more rare to find (At least with my cheap a$$ friends).