“It’s To A Point Where It’s Funny Now”
December 23rd, 2019
One former Buccaneer currently working for the team dropped a wisecrack after the first interception from Jameis Winston on Saturday.
And another former Bucs player shared a similar sentiment.
Film guru Xs and Os guy Dave Moore, the former Tampa Bay tight end, calls Bucs games for the team on the radio alongside broadcast icon Gene Deckerhoff. And when that predictable Jameis pick on the first possession came, Moore said, “The Bucs are just where they want to be.”
Of course, Moore was referring to Jameis’ crazy habit of throwing interceptions on the first offensive position of games.
Speaking on WDAE radio today, former Bucs guard Ian Beckles (1990-1996) said of Jameis’ early picks, “It’s to a point where it’s funny now.”
Bucco Bruce Arians was asked about the opening throw/opening drive interceptions today at One Buc Palace, and Arians said he remains perplexed.
Tampa Bay Times columnist John Romano sarcastically wrote this weekend that the Bucs should consider employing an “opener” quarterback to start the game and then be relieved quickly, much like the Tampa Bay Rays do in many games in which they don’t use a traditional starting pitcher.
Jameis has tossed four interceptions in the opening possession through the last five games. In the game prior to that, he threw one that was overturned because of a delay of game penalty.
Joe get the comedy value, but it’s really not funny when you bleed pewter and red.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:57 pm
Joe, your last line said it best.
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:57 pm
It will be a fascinating process this offseason. What would you say to JW during the end of season evaluation? And what would you offer him? A contract or a guiding hand on his back while motioning toward the door?
The maddening part is either option is acceptable.
JW is maddening, not ‘excitement’ to Bucs Fans.
In BA I Trust!
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:58 pm
You know Joe I keep hearing that when JW throws a int he just shrugs it off and moves on to the next play and keeps slinging it down field. Maybe that is the problem maybe he should give a F when he throws a int and player smarter. Just a thought
December 23rd, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Jordan Love is the answer…..dont care what they do with JW, maybe a franchise to ease Love in, i dont know. Just know I’d hate to waste that money on him when we need it to bring back KEY $$ guys for our D (Barrett, JPP, SUH, Nassib)
Go watch some vids of him…nfl arm for the deep ball which is what BA wants….No way in he!! we pass up on Jordan Love in the 1st even if we franchise JW for one more chance or just for an easy in for Love!
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:02 pm
So funny haha while we buy merchandise and license plates, hats, hoodies, I even bought a Buccaneers Christmas ornament……. YES SO FUNNY LMAO I forgot to laugh 😂
Oh no wait that was not a laugh at 4:05pm Saturday…..
THAT WAS A CRY sounded like this as I ran from the TV, “NOOOO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOO OMG WINSTON INTERCEPTION TO END THE GAME!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!”
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:03 pm
Just when you think, ok, this Whole thing with picks in the 1st drive is getting to common, JW says hey, I can do it in the 2nd drive too….
And while the fans are letting that sink in, I’ll go over here and wildly overthrow 3 wide open receivers that could easily be TD…
And for the finally, 2 more picks for the records…
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:09 pm
It’s only funny because it is the most recent iteration of….cue the circus music….how can the Bucs find a way to lose this time?!!!
It’s not funny. I’m tired of being the laughingstock of the NFL.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:09 pm
Jordan Love seems to have slid from his production last year now that there is more film on him. Plus isn’t he a spread offense guy. Does not seem that would fit with BA’s seven step drop guy. Did he take any snaps from under center? I don’t know to be fair.
Not saying he can’t be a player, just wondering why you think he is the fit other than you say he has a good arm for the deep ball and he is crazy athletic.
I am not sure that BA has cared whether his QB’s are crazy athletic.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:09 pm
@Tye, a pick to open and a pick to end it….thats why im done.
I give up! Hated his presser afterwards too, that one told me all I needed to hear. Wouldn’t address the question with a proper relevant answer….just kept harking on owning his mistakes and he needs to do better….na man, cant you be coherent enough to somewhat validate the questioner with somewhat of an answer thats relevant to the question? Nope, move on….
Jordan Love!
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:13 pm
Last week’s 100 million dollar man is quite the comedian. In fact, the whole team does remarkably good pratfalls.
Maybe we should talk the team into re-signing Jameis, so we can watch the Magoo squint for another season. By the third game someone will organize a boycott, the Glazers will go broke, and we can get an owner that wants a real team.
Then all of these shenanigans can be funny in hindsight.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:15 pm
FAMOUS did his job …..did any of our young wide outs run the wrong routes? Did they all fight for the ball like Chris G? Did they put fear in the se
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:20 pm
Might consider adjusting the scripted plays to start each game!
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:25 pm
secondary like our #1 wide out!!!? We were missing key people…that is what locust the game..missing pieces people …FAMOUS is a fearless gunslinger and that is who he is…with Big Mike and Godwin we win …without them we lose not a big deal!! What team loses two key targets and win against a play-off calber team….I’ll wait!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:27 pm
and not entertaining either unless you’re the enemy
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:29 pm
Too many excuses for this dude, you knew you weren’t throwing to Evans and Godwin, you knew it was windy that is what warm ups is for. Winston is playing out of his mind simply to make sure bucs aren’t in a position to draft his replacement and next year when he returns it will be the same story.
This franchise is at that crossroads offseason where the moves licht and arians make will decide is the continue to play mediocre football or become serious playoff contenders.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:32 pm
secondary like Big Mike…if our number ones play we win …#3 was relentless..you know he kept coming back …that is what we need around these parts. GO BUCS!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:33 pm
He threw an alley oop pass To Watson and gave the corner time to recover and jump the route. Wind had nothing to do with it. He should’ve thrown a frozen rope instead while not staring at him the entire way. There’s nothing like telegraphing almost all your throws.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:34 pm
Stop your crap JulyJoe
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Jean I’m with you. I’m so sick of hearing this entertaining crap. I spent most of the First half slumped down in my couch watching with a crocked eye like a beaten down defeated man.
It was depressing. The turnover are a total dejection. The way our defense played would of been much more thrilling if not for the kick to the gut to start the game. Even them TDs to end the half weren’t nearly as exciting as they otherwise would be…….at least to me.
Anybody that think embarrassing garbage football by our team leader is entertaining does not have the heartbeat of a Bucs fan……..granted the game in itself was entertain but the QB……Anger is not a fun time by me.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:46 pm
I think they should go Dirk Koetter Bucs Panthers Turtle Shell 2016 thru the first 2-3 possessions. Holmgren did it for Favre for almost his entire career.
December 23rd, 2019 at 4:47 pm
Not funny if you pay to get into these games
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:01 pm
My buddy sent me this meme yesterday:
“Just imagine Jameis Winston in any other job. Like you drop your kid off at school, and at the end of the day he’s either going to be dead, or will have learned 3 new languages. And there is a completely equal chance of either of those things happening without any way of knowing beforehand.”
Pretty much nailed it.
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:02 pm
Hate to say this … get Mariotta, he’s cheap and does not give it away. Get him as backup to Dr. Jekyll. As long as Hyde is playing we are fine. When Jekyll shows up, hook time. If Jameis ego can’t handle it, do we really need such a fragile ego as leader of this team?
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:04 pm
I think its funny. It is what it is. That’s our QB!
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:08 pm
The opposing teams are looking for certain routes on the first few series. You don’t make plays like that unless you waiting or baiting
December 23rd, 2019 at 5:46 pm
It’s funny because all you can do is laugh now. He’s given us every emotion in book by now(even lust for some of you) laughing is all that’s left.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:07 pm
I’d have to say funny if you are 11-5, 12-4 and still in the playoffs. Not funny when you are struggling to even hit .500 with possibly the best receiving corp in the league and an increasingly stout D. At that point, it is like laughing because you one dog avoided a couple cars and was now doing tricks, while the other one got run over. I don’t find much humor in the situation.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:13 pm
It wasn’t entertaining paying 4K per season to watch them lose. It’s just as bad on my giant flat screen. Hell, I can see better.
You can’t honestly want what’s best for the Bucs and bring back that pick machine loser.
I challenge anyone supporting Winston and their agenda. FSU fan? Homer cataracts and glasses?
We cannot waste a sixth year on that piece of garbage. Sorry. Harsh but this is business. Not our favorite player from college. 5th year and he’s trash.
Most yards doesn’t win games. See top 5 passers all golfing after next wkend.
Stop the insanity.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:36 pm
Short in route = int. Short out route = int. Bomb = six!!!
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:36 pm
YOU CAN NOT WIN IF YOU THROW AN INT ON YOUR OPENING SERIES!
Except Brad Johnson threw an opening series INT in 2 of the 3 playoff games when the Bucs won the SB. In the other game he threw an INT on his 2nd series. 3 games, three INTs in the first 4 series.
He clearly should have been lynched for such an unforgivable sin like that.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:37 pm
T REX – … what is my agenda… gee, let’s take a look.
#3 offense.
#30 defense.
Yeah, I have a hidden agenda obviously and have no understanding of football.
LOL!
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:43 pm
No worries that the first pass of the game was the fatal blow (it was the difference in the game, after all). That is just a cold hard fact, undisputable. No worries that fans pay good money to see a professional football team try to produce at least one shred of hope in a lost season. No worries that folks like me who spend 6 grand a year on season tickets are not so quick to go back now….as we wait and see. No…no worries. It’s almost funny. Yeah right…guys like the coaches, Glazers, players, Deckerhoff and Moore get paid to be there. The rest of us pay…dearly. Not worth the price of admission. Thanks Winston!
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:47 pm
@ rod, no I think you’re in love with his “numbers” not the outcomes. He’s Jeff George 2.0.
Saturday was proof that a great defense won’t overcome those turnovers. I schooled you in other articles. You need a refresher?
You’ll never win with 20% of your drives being turnovers. Ever. You want stats because there’s a ton on turnovers and CORRELATION ton wins and losses.
You disagree?
You shoulda stayed down boy…
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:54 pm
I’m not so sure the Falcons are going to come in here and lay down. Happily, I sold my tickets for a 30% loss since I’m so sick of Winston’s debacles. He lost millions for sure with his continued multiple pick game–thank God. I fully expect he’ll have at least two picks and a fumble Sunday. He’s no more now than a bridge QB for a season. Bucs should offer him a one year $15M deal, $10M bonus if his TDs are twice his picks at season end, AND the Bucs go to the playoffs. Take it or leave it. I’m all for moving on too. So sick of this guy.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:57 pm
T REX – Jeff George had one 4000 yard season in his career, and only threw for more than 3000 yards threw times in his career. He also took multiple teams to the playoffs.
Also, as stated before, Winston, since 2015 has had the worst defense in football, the worst kicking game in football and since 2016 has played the hardest schedule.
I know you triggered dopes are very triggered – so triggered you’d rather have Mike Glennon still here scoring 12 points a game and going 2-14… but it’s not happening.
December 23rd, 2019 at 6:58 pm
Mr. Reality – Cool story man, thanks for sharing.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:04 pm
Consider this. For every pick six that’s the equivalent of giving the other team 75 yards of offense, not to mention the points. So shave those yards off your own totals. Every time you give it to the other team, you also burn your own D twice the amount, plus give up any more points the opponent scores off of you and subtract their yards from your own total pass yards. Winston’s pick six’s alone this year are spotting every opponent for every game about a field goal to overcome from the start. Saving them six 75 yard drives is 450 yards there alone for what you really earn. Maybe someone else has figured out how many points were scored off of Winston turnovers. I’m sure the Bucs would rather not say. I know that’s not how they figure net yards…but effectively, shave all those opposing team points…and yards off your own, and throwing for 5 grand doesn’t mean a thing…especially when they were basically out of contention when they walked off the field in Nashville.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:05 pm
Muncher, don’t assume because folks don’t want Wisnton means they want Glennon. You really look like a dumbazz when you say that.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:07 pm
Winston’s stats are a byproduct of his turnovers. If we arent playing catchup most of the game, we aren’t throwing the ball 50 times and running 10.
Everybody is crying about a nonexistent running game that never has a chance to get started because we are digging out of holes, made by who…?
I can’t believe there are still people that want to see more of this, its baffling.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:10 pm
Muncher…how do think winners like Russell Wilson and Tom Brady feel when they throw for a group of yards but lose the game? I’d say probably terrible, like losers, right? And their fans don’t beat their chest for the last eight games saying “oh yeah, look at all those yards, baby! NEXT YEAR we may do well. Hail to the QB.” Maybe their parents and wives like it. But no way does it matter to anyone else.
Lots of Winston lovers here who are clearly not Bucs fans. Or…they are fine with losing as long as they have the 5K yard pacifier to suck on until next year.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:11 pm
THANK YOU got Bucs. Right on the money.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:11 pm
Ian has never reached a point of being funny and Bucs radio walk to wall is terrible. RIP Chris Thomas and Big Dog.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:14 pm
Anbody talking about how bad our defense is clearly does not know what they are talking about. Heck, you don’t even gotta watch the games to understand. A simple boxscore could learn ya better.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:17 pm
Oh, it’s GREAT entertainment when it’s someone else’s QB shatting all over himself and making his team a perrineal loser. When it’s YOUR dime and YOUR house YOUR team is the laughingstock of the league…it gets old. And if it ever does become funny, it means fans have ceased to care at all.
Used to be on Monday morning the whole town was talking Bucs game. Now, it’s mostly other teams I hear about in the break room and in the hall ways. Year before last when the Bucs were GIVING UP TO FOUR tickets away to season ticket holders for FREE…folks had trouble finding takers…that’s how sad it has gotten here.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:19 pm
Mr. Reality – “Consider this. For every pick six that’s the equivalent of giving the other team 75 yards of offense, not to mention the points. So shave those yards off your own totals.”
LOL! What? That is the dumbest logic I’ve heard so far. I’m guessing the triggered Winston hate is literally damaging people’s brains at this point.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:21 pm
JimmyJack – Uh… the defense has been God awful for most of the year. They’ve been better lately, but if you don’t think for the majority of the season they’ve been garbage, then you “clearly does not know what they are talking about.” Yeah does doesn’t work there, but I wanted to quote you.
The defense played their best game of the year on Saturday – which is great. I said it all offseason the defense would stink but hopefully by the end of the year they’re not completely awful.
But if you think the offense is why the team isn’t winning… LOL!
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:24 pm
Mr. Reality – Tom Brady has consistently had one of the best defense in football. Russell Wilson consistently had on of the best defenses in football.
Jameis Winston has had the worst defense in football since 2015…. along with the worst kicking game… as well as playing the hardest schedule since 2016.
You know how has played the easiest schedule in football since 2016?
Marcus Mariota.
…and Tom Brady.
(with the qualifier being the last time I checked it was Mariota, then Brady, but they would flip back and forth nearly every week depending on the opponent).
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:32 pm
Muncher…that’s the reallity–learn it, live it. Your boy has. On a pick six you GIVE the other team the equivalent of a free zero time TD drive.
Oh, and how many turnovers does Winston have in five years? Yeah, the D has sucked in bliblical proportions often, but then again, when you singlehandledly make your D come back out onto the field more than 109 extra times like Winston has (plus he fumbled 50 more times but didn’t lose the ball), that’s not exactly helping now is it?
40 times this year alone he has forced his D back onto the field because he can’t take care of the football. That’s 3 per game….just on him.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:35 pm
Oh, my bad. He’s only lost five fumbles this year…not 12. Well, that is MUCH better. Still leads the NFL in TOs by a WIDE margin. LOL.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:36 pm
Muncher…good points. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen VHIII and Chris Conte jump off the bench, run out on the field, wrestle the ball from Winton, and throw it to the other team.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:40 pm
Here’s my game by game breakdown of who won and lost each game. I’m sure it will trigger the anti-Winston haters who think every loss is on him and he has never won a game, but I tried to be very objective here…
Who won/lost games…
Game 1 vs 49ers – L – Winston
Game 2 vs Panthers – W – Defense
Game 3 vs Giants – L – Gay
Game 4 vs Rams – W – Winston
Game 5 vs Saints – L – LOST TO BETTER TEAM
Game 6 vs Panthers – L – Winston
Game 7 vs Titans – L – Refs
Game 8 vs Seahawks – L – Defense
Game 9 Vs Cards – W – Winston
Game 10 vs Saints – L – LOST TO BETTER TEAM
Game 11 vs Falcons – W – Winston
Game 12 vs Jags – W – Defense
Game 13 vs Colts – W – Winston
Game 14 vs Lions – W – Winston
Game 15 vs Texans – L – Winston
So…
Winston 4-3
Defense 2-1
Gay 0-1
Refs 0-1
Team 0-2
I write off the two Saints games as team loses as the defense didn’t do anything to stop the losses and the offense didn’t do enough to win. The Saints were just better – which they literally are.
The defense comes OK here. Yes, they CLEARLY lost the Seahawks game, and would have lost the Cards game, the Giants game and the Rams game if it wasn’t for the offense. But the defense was also clearly robbed of a W in Tennessee.
I’m giving Winston three loses where he was at fault and 4 victories. But Winston was also clearly robbed of a W by Gay, otherwise he’d be 5-3 on this least. But in any case I have him 4-3 in what people are pretending as an all-time bad season. Obviously any dope saying that never watched Vinny in a Bucs jersey.
In any case if the defense continues their play as of late next season, the Bucs are a deep playoff team as Winston will improve, the same way Palmer did in his second year under Arians. Currently, I’m predicting 11-5, since they’ll keep Winston, probably franchise Shaq, and figure out a way to keep someone else around like Suh or JPP on defense – while getting some o-line help in the draft and maybe a RB. Exciting times are ahead- unless you’re a Winston hater, then it’s another year of be triggered 24/7 and hoping the Bucs lose every week.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:42 pm
Sad part was the D was finally playing lights out and Jameis as usual ruined it. The guy just doesn’t seem to get it. He ruined the Bucs chance of having a winning season on Saturday. Time to franchise him and look for a QB that is a lot smarter. No more excuses, time to make plans for a replacement.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:43 pm
Mr. Reality – I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen Ryan Smith being completely lost in coverage and giving up a 50 yard play and countless TDs. He’s literally the worst corner I’ve ever seen, ever, at any level. VHIII really wasn’t that bad – he wasn’t good – but he was no Ryan Smith.
But I can tell you exactly how many times I’ve seen a safety lose a game on national TV and take away all the momentum of a team. That would be Conte getting ran over on MNF – which basically crushed the team.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Munch, now I know you’re just stupid. Not your fault. Bad genes. Yards are relative to the league average. Again, I could pull up all the stats about passing yardage league wide increasing over time…even show you graph(not that you could read it).
Only 15 years ago there were only five 4k passers.
Last year? 12 passers eclipsed the mark.
What does that tell you?
Nevermind. I can’t help you. You’re in love with Jameis Winston…a loser.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Why doesn’t Winston over throw DBs also???
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:46 pm
Well Rod Munch it pays to be relevant. Cause it just makes you sound dumb when you keep talking up our bad defensive ranking when anybody that’s watching can see that the defense is playing great football right now. Not good not better…..great.
I mean so what are you talking about? Are you talking about who this team was? Or who they are? It’s very senseless to drum up the past to prove some point when the present is right in front of us……..#3 offense #30 defense has absolutely no revelance to what just happened on Saturday…..Can you deny that?
The defense is now where it needs to be for our QB to win games. In fact they are the unit that closed out most of our recent wins. Now the fans wanna see this QB do his job. Saturday was his first big test(with a legit defense) and he crapped all over himself. It was freaking distrusting man. It was not good offense and #3 don’t mean diddly if you can’t deliver when it matters more.
I’m not here to condemn Jameis over one game and I’m not trying to ride him out of town. But I am here to say has must play better. The defense certainly is.
Winston needs to do his job. Very simple
GO BUCS!!!
END RANT***
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:55 pm
And no buddy sorry. The Bucs are not a deep playoff team…….if…….Winston gets into a match vs another playoff team and throws 4 picks. Which is exactly what he just did.
This isn’t the 1903 World Series and you don’t get 9 games. This is the NFL and you get one chance. That’s it……….and if you need to win a big game to clinch a division or a playoff birth your not going to get away with 4 picks either. You’ll never make it that way.
Winston gotta get better. No other option.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:56 pm
one thomas brady is available after the season…
and he is currently residing in new england
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:56 pm
Well actually there is one other option.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:56 pm
Mark gets the prize for best post.
December 23rd, 2019 at 7:59 pm
17 TOs in the last 7 games…second half of this season. Arguably, the D has played well in most games, making plays to keep the Bucs in the game, and in fact, win 5 of 7. Cards amd Colts…close wins where they plays to overcome Winston mistakes. In their two losses in that stretch, against good teams…Texans and Saints…Winston’s mistakes were too much to overcome–8 picks in those games. You’ll never beat a good team with that. Let’s expand it out…SF, CAR in London, and TEN losses are also mostly on Winston. Losses in SEA, NO-1, and NYG are not on him. That’s how brilliantly fair I am to Winston. So when turnovers by one guy directly result in three losses of six in the first half of the season…2-6…I don’t think anyone cares how many yards he throws for in the back half of of his fifth year. That’s the reality…and it’s sad, not funny.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:02 pm
Hey Muncher….key note: VHIII and Conte are GONE. The D has done well this back half overall, saving Winston’s butt, but his INT rate is worse they ever for these last games. Yeah, BA is right. Blame the wind.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:07 pm
The four game win streak was due to the defensive secondary turning a corner. Jameis played okay in those games, after digging a hole.
This last game the defense was also strong but Jameis stunk it up. All of those who wanted to give him 100 million last week should have seen it coming. Jameis has a hard time playing whole games, a winning season is beyond his potential.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:07 pm
instead of resigning Winston, I’d rather see them retain the entire D, add a RT and Melvin Gordon then Draft Jalen Hurts RD1 then the rest of the draft pick up OL, DL and DE BPA for founds 2-7
Imagine this offense with Gordon and Hurts added to it
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:08 pm
Muncher says:
Game 7 vs Titans – L – Refs
Game 10 vs Saints – L – LOST TO BETTER TEAM
AHAHAAHA!!!!!! Yeah, those 7 Winston turnovers had nothing to do with. Man, my side hurts from laughing.
And BTW, the last minute pick by the D won the Cards game. They overcame Winston’s 3 turnovers.
Oh, with that, time to retire.
December 23rd, 2019 at 8:38 pm
On average there are about 12 offensive possessions per team in an NFL game. Winston has 28 INT’s, and 5 lost fumbles.
In other words, almost three games worth of potential scoring drives, or at the very least a chance to punt and give the defense a chance to prevent points. Granted, some interceptions aren’t 100% his fault, but that goes for every QB in the league, and yet the good ones still don’t throw them, with lesser supporting casts in most cases.
Basically it’s hard to tell what could have been. I do know for a fact though that they would have been in a lot better position to play for wins without one player giving offensive possessions and points away at a record rate. This, is indisputable.
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:20 pm
Gotbucs
Other qbs dont throw the ints because JW takes 100 percent risk and only does what the coaches asked. He needs to start challenging them more and stop being a square a company man. Jw…tell leftwich his plays are trash
December 23rd, 2019 at 9:37 pm
Lamarcus that’s a excuse. More to the story then that. Two of them picks was simple out routes. Simple reads & throws. Winston threw it late. Risk was not a factor.
Last time he had the ball in his hand in a 2 minute drill and threw away the game it was a screen pass. One of the least riskiest passes in football.
He’s been picked of a many times on screens, outs, curls, and slants. None are risky plays. Simple reads.
And yes, sometimes the other team just makes a great play. That’s football. But don’t try to scapegoat coaching about this risk stuff. That’s bogus. 100% risk my ass bro.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:08 pm
@ LaMarcus
Congrats on one of the most ridiculous posts in recent memory.
December 23rd, 2019 at 10:59 pm
Since you elementary students cant comprehend what I just wrote then let me put to like what I tell a 1st grader: Challenge the coaches. Dont use plays that dont work. Jw must change the play
December 24th, 2019 at 12:00 am
T REX – Hey kiddo, that’s the reason I included the 3k mark as well for you.
Read the full thing then you won’t go off half cocked.
December 24th, 2019 at 12:02 am
JimmyJack – The Bucs have won 4 of their last 6… So they are literally winning right now. If you think this Bucs defense is 16-0 material, then your Winston hatred has completely rotted your brain.
December 24th, 2019 at 12:07 am
JimmyJack – Also, the screen pick in week one was 100% on Jensen laying out Dare before the ball got there. You’d know that if you bothered to watch the film – but you didn’t and just repeat the same fake news thing you said at the time.
Also you fail to mention in the game on Saturday that Winston was going in for a score on the 2nd to last series only to have your man Brate drop what was probably the easiest pass in his career on 4th and 2.
But anyways I went game by game above, and when doing so gave the defense more credit than I originally did. Also I’ve said the defense is playing well lately – and if they can do that for a full season, this team is making a deep playoff run next year. That is, of course, behind the arm of the NFL’s leading passer, the 25-year old kid who owns every Bucs passing record… well, except turnovers, which Vinny holds by a huge amount.
December 24th, 2019 at 12:15 am
So you think Winston not changing plays at the line of scrimmage is why he throws lazy outs? Got it.
Changing the call at the LOS isn’t going to make him see the field any better after the snap. I don’t think he knows how to make pre-snap reads, or you would see him changing plays more.
You think he’s just out there being a good boy and doing what coach says, I think he’s out there throwing the ball where he wants to throw it no matter what the coverage dictates. Why? Because he thinks he can will the ball in there, and when it’s all done and it’s an interception, he’ll still think he can will it in there the next time.
Like I’ve said, he’ll throw the same pass over and over again come hell or high water and not think twice about doing it or what the repercussions are. There is no conscience in there. No remorse.
December 24th, 2019 at 1:07 am
As I’ve said, the Winston hate is literally a mental disorder. Just look at the nut above… He thinks Winston is a psychopath because of where he throws the ball.
Does that sound like a mentally well person to you – like someone you’d want to hang out with at a party and talk to?
This is what the Winston hatred has done to people, it’s fried their tiny little brains, it’s made them convinced that Chris Conte and Ryan Smith were being held back by Winston…
You guys have to get past your Winston hatred. You need to accept the results of the 2015 draft. You wanted Mariota, and that wasn’t the right pick. You wanted Mike Glennon, and that wasn’t the right pick. Meanwhile we have the best performing offense in team history right now, one on a historical streak. Yet it’s all doom and gloom for you, all because of your Winston hatred.
December 24th, 2019 at 2:08 am
We’re moving on without JW…..its time. So unfortunate too….hard to swallow for Mr. Licht, but it is what it is….JW has too many issues and they know it…..and it pukes all over the field when he’s there….just let him go….done already
December 24th, 2019 at 2:19 am
It’s not really funny, at all.
I’m amazed at how well Jameis can bounce back from self-inflicted adversity. It really is admirable.
It’s also incredibly dissapointing.
All of the good things Jameis does are usually washed out by the bad stuff that HE also does.
What you end up with is an entertaining team with a lot of fight, and no playoff hopes.
BTW: Rogers has thrown THREE picks all year. THREE!!!!
– yeah, save me the BS, you can’t compare crap… that means you can’t compare jack-squat either! Fair is fair and that’s what a lot of us forget.
That being said. I do honestly think the Bucs should keep Jameis for one more year.
If they let him go, this whole ship is going down and I am not ready to stomach that again.
This would truly be the worst rebuild of all… so many guys ready to get after it. It would be a damn shame to see it all blown up.
December 24th, 2019 at 2:27 am
Jesus Christ Rod!
You’re equally as blind as the people you talk **** to!
Get it together and stop making excuses!
You’re blaming picks on a center?
That’s all we’ll and good unless your QB has thrown 28 freaking INTs!!!
Look at the top tier QBs!!!!
They don’t EVER come close.
With that said, I think the Bucs keep Jameis. Give him a sixth year to prove everyone wrong.
I don’t care how many TDs or picks he throws, as long as he wins.
The excuses need to freaking stop!
It is what it is.
December 24th, 2019 at 2:31 am
and Rod, I don’t mean any disrespect, but dude.
You’re going to compare how many games Ryan Smith has lost vs. Jameis?
December 24th, 2019 at 6:16 am
Rod, how come you can’t make a point that stands on its own? You assume so much without any basis. You assume people “hate” Winston. You assume they wanted Glennon or still do. You assume they wanted Mariota. And you say others are mentally ill? Exactly what don’t you comprehend that a guy that gets WORSE when the rest of his gets better won’t win in the NFL? There is something else there that you are not telling us.
December 24th, 2019 at 9:17 am
Only ones laughing are the other teams. Found another way to be the laughing stock of the NFL
December 24th, 2019 at 9:33 am
Rod getting smacked around like the b he is…ouch.
Stay down boy!
December 24th, 2019 at 9:58 am
Bruce don’t be perplexed , you can’t run the dam ball AT ALL and the D knows exactly what you are running !!!! Uhhh Duhhhh , nothing worse than a dumb jock that doesn’t want to admit that Lefty isn’t fooling anyone on allot of plays !!! Again let Winston or Clyde call the first two drives at the line !!!
Clyde or Tom Moore gives two plays and Winston chooses !!! The D s are Super prepared for Lefty !!! Lefty has potential and I like some of what he does but the D is jumping all over certain things they see !!! Like Dare in the slot on short yardage !! If the o line wasn’t getting blind up like lil bitches on short yardage these stupid ass routes wouldn’t come into play !!! Uhhhh let’s put our back in the slot against a db that knows exactly where the ball is going , get outta here , that pick is on Licht, BA and Lefty !!! What’s any qb going to do ,,,, take the sack and turn it over on downs or throw the prayer !!! Total failure from the top !!!
December 24th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
Bottom line is we have had 5 years to watch bad football from JW and some of you want more is it munchhowsing syndrome or how ever you say it = lost fan base wake up ther is something wrong with you
December 24th, 2019 at 12:33 pm
Bucs owners will not tolerate half empty stadium and they are not on board with a long term deal . There is a QB deal to be made sooo hold on folks its coming.
December 24th, 2019 at 2:11 pm
^munchausen…..
QB deal as in drafting Love in the first! Yep 🙂
December 24th, 2019 at 2:24 pm
It’s funny? The fans aren’t laughing
December 24th, 2019 at 3:09 pm
What people are not talking about very much is how much pressure those 28 INTs and 5 fumbles have put on the defense this season. Say Winston only had 15 INTs and 2 fumbles, I wager the Bucs would be about 10-5 right now and fighting for a playoff spot.
33 turns for a 5th year veteran QB is absolutely unacceptable, I don’t care how many yards and TDs he has.