“I Would Hate To Move My Family Again”
December 6th, 2019
Peeks into future.
If all things were even, it seems Bucs pass rusher Shaq Barrett would like to play a few more years with Tampa Bay.
That is what the free agent-to-be said yesterday at One Buc Palace.
Barrett has totally blown up here, so much so he is two sacks from tying Warren Sapp for the most sacks (16.5) in team history. Barrett’s 14.5 sacks lead the NFL with four games to play.
So the question currently on Bucs fans’ minds isn’t so much if Barrett can break Sapp’s record. It is, can the Bucs somehow keep Barrett?
Barrett’s agent is oily Drew Rosenhaus. And Joe would be shocked if Rosenhaus isn’t already working behind the scenes to set up a bidding war if Barrett hits the open market.
And if Barrett does hit the beach to test the free agency waters, all bets are off. Asked yesterday if he wants to stay in Tampa Bay, Barrett gave no indication that he wants to leave town.
“I thought about it a little bit,” Barrett said. “I would hate to move my family again. We hate moving. But I think this could be my home. I like it here a lot. Yeah, I like my teammates.
“I would love to be down here. I would love to stay down here.”
Of course, money talks. The safest way to ensure Barrett stays with the Bucs, though maybe not the smartest move, would be to franchise him. Per OverTheCap.com, the projected 2020 value for a linebacker (there is no designation for “pass rusher” or “outside linebacker”) is $16,266,000.
And yeah, Barrett admitted getting paid means he must produce. He even acknowledged he has to produce now, adding two sacks in a month is unacceptable for him.
“They love you as long as you produce,” Barrett said.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:06 am
Well if he loves it here and doesn’t want to move, then we should get a little discount. Almost like a home team discount they do in other sports or hockey. I hope he stays, but it’s going to be so hard with all the FA’s & Godwin. It’s going to be a very interesting end of season and off season for us and the Bucs.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:10 am
Bucs will find a way to keep Shaq, even if it means franchise tagging him. Hopefully it doesn’t come to that though, and Bucs can reach a 4-5 year deal with Shaq that benefits BOTH Shaq AND the team.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:14 am
We have no choice but to pay the man. You don’t let double digit sackers leave the building. It will come down to paying him, or JPP. You could probably get JPP on a cheaper shorter deal, but I’d pay the younger guy, who will show up for OTA’s, and isn’t as reckless off the field.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:20 am
I’d give him the multi-year deal before Jay-Miss.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:23 am
Slimy Drew DOES NOT do Home town discounts so dont get your hopes up ladies…..Such a dumb take. Clients in Shaq’s boat drive where they play. If they didn’t, Rosenhaus wouldn’t have so many clients.–Joe
December 6th, 2019 at 8:32 am
Shaq is the pass-rusher we’ve been searching for. Sign him.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:38 am
I will, as many others would be devastated if he were to leave. They MUST get this fall done. I don’t care how.
I have spoken
Go BUCS
December 6th, 2019 at 8:39 am
^^ this deal done
December 6th, 2019 at 8:43 am
This dude should be our number one priority with JPP a close second. Our defense is actually fun to watch again.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:49 am
We have the money……pay him…..I take him at his word that he likes it here and doesn’t prefer moving…..Fla has no state income tax……and we have a young defense coached by a popular coach.
Suh is the player that could be sacrificed…..older….1 year contract FA who could be replaced by a top draft pick.
I’d also keep JPP….he’s from here…..has a great motor and is a leader….I think he’s got a couple of more years in the tank like Freeny & Peppers.
December 6th, 2019 at 8:55 am
We can´t have them all that´s for sure….We cant bring JW Shaq JPP Suh Godwin, if we want them all, we have to get rid of something…Brate or OJ….Maybe
LVD???
NO way Jose!!!!
But I don´t know exactly what our Cap will be 2020, but common sense says we can´t sign them all…….
December 6th, 2019 at 8:56 am
He’s as good as gone……………he’s performing at an elite level; even better than Michael Bennett and the Bucs let michael bennett walk.
Ask yourself this Bucs Fans……when was the last time the Bucs has every paid a D-Lineman Elite level money????? That’s right, it was Simeon Rice and Warren Sapp…..that was over 12 years ago.
The Glazers are Cheapo owners and don’t give in to deals like this. If Shaq Barrett is here next season…..I’d be actually shocked.
Shaq Barrett is gone people…….
December 6th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Don’t mess around with the franchise tag. Just lock up this motivated family man!
December 6th, 2019 at 8:59 am
This is where is Licht and the salary cap guys makes their bread. Get it done. Sign Barrett, JPP and Nassib. Suh can be replaced by a rookie. Then our front 7 led by JPP will wreck havoc.
December 6th, 2019 at 9:15 am
I usually do not agree with Tmax, but he is correct here. You don’t hire a Drew Rosenhaus then take a discount, nor should he take a discount. He has to get as good a deal for himself as possible.
December 6th, 2019 at 9:27 am
Make signing Barrett and JPP our top priority followed closely by Godwin. Brate and Suh should be release. Offer Nassib a significant increase and give him a chance to have a Barrett-type year, The hometown discount should be assigned to Jameis. I think he owes us that much!
December 6th, 2019 at 9:40 am
salary should be based more so on his last 8 games…not that torrid unrealistic pace that he will never have again, during the first 4 games that he caught teams totally sleepwalking around him…
or minus 5 sacks off the first 4 games…giving him a generous average of one sack per game…or on pace for 16 for the year if you prorate those first 4 games
December 6th, 2019 at 9:50 am
Who would want to live in Florida, especially after
Colorado
December 6th, 2019 at 10:00 am
Lol Joe taking a dump in tmax’s cheerios.
I think we end up keeping Barrett with a long term deal or franchise tag. But I think hoping for a hometown discount is wishful thinking. I think if we get any kind of discount it will be pennies on the dollar unless somehow they convince him to sign something prior to FA period.
December 6th, 2019 at 10:09 am
Bucs will have close to $100M to spend.
Winston, Barrett, JPP and Nassib are the 4 potential Free Agents you can’t let get to free agency.
It will cost approximately $60M to sign all 4:
Winston $25M, Barrett $16M (Franchise Tag), JPP $11-12M, Nassib $7-8M
That leaves about $40M to sign probably 15 other players.
Tight but Doable….. (Jeffrey Epstein’s favorite phrase I’ve heard)
December 6th, 2019 at 10:26 am
I love it that we have our long illusive pass rusher, however I would like to see him do it 2 years in a row before I pay him the big Bucks. He averaged around 5 !/2 sacks per game for his first 4 years in Denver as a rotational LB. I would Franchise him ($16 to $19 mil) We all know what Winston can do and will do so the idea of a prove it year is sort of redundant. Pay him or let him walk. My view is try to keep our Defense in tact and focus on Oline and RB in Draft.
December 6th, 2019 at 10:38 am
@Pickgrin
LMAO
December 6th, 2019 at 10:52 am
Pickgrin,
With all due repsect, you have to add Godwin to that list!!!
December 6th, 2019 at 10:57 am
Jay miss 25 mil nassib 8 mil please. Jay miss 15 mil nassib 4 mil is more like it.
December 6th, 2019 at 10:58 am
Pickgrin then you have 14 for Godwin.
December 6th, 2019 at 10:59 am
Pickgrin: don’t forget the team’s desire to give Godwin an extension too. That will eat into that amount too, plus that $16M for Barrett is only for one season.
If we are looking at 2021 and beyond, keeping Godwin, Winston, Barrett, JPP & Nassib would be a very difficult if not impossible task without additional compromises.
December 6th, 2019 at 11:01 am
Good management practices would be to plan more than one season ahead and at least prepare for 2021 too. Bad teams run around putting out fires one season at a time. Assuming Licht thinks along those lines…
December 6th, 2019 at 11:15 am
Pickgrin: A lot of the money spent can be offset by letting Brate, Perriman, Gholston, Dotson, Suh, Gabbert, D. Stewart & Acho. Savings approx. 40 mil.
December 6th, 2019 at 11:46 am
Rob Tanner Says:
December 6th, 2019 at 8:06 am
Well if he loves it here and doesn’t want to move, then we should get a little discount. Almost like a home team discount they do in other sports or hockey. I hope he stays, but it’s going to be so hard with all the FA’s & Godwin. It’s going to be a very interesting end of season and off season for us and the Bucs.
^^^Fak that, go take a discount at your job Rob! Yeah thought so punk ass.
December 6th, 2019 at 12:01 pm
At least we’re not seeing the “nobody wants to play for the Bucs” posters…..Oops!!! Here they come!!!
December 6th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Come on Cheap TB..Pay the man.
December 6th, 2019 at 12:20 pm
Mike Johnson Says:
December 6th, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Come on Cheap TB..Pay the man.
its not about being cheap it’s more about the franchise being a laughingstock…. free agents with a choice will always choose another team unless the money is over top. History proves this. yes once or twice over the last 20 years they have suckered a free agent to come that being said. it’s tough to attract or keep quality players in a small market with such a long a deep history of losing and embarrassing football. players, coaches and most fans accept the glazers will never compete it’s only a few left living in denial after this recent basement title run…
Joe
24 pack of Bud Light says my take on Slimy Drew is dead on. I don’t care what barrett says publicly
December 6th, 2019 at 1:12 pm
He’ll end up in one of the storied franchises clubhouse i.e. Philly, Dallas, GB, NE, Balt. etc..
December 6th, 2019 at 2:05 pm
He didn’t say he wouldn’t move his family….said he would hate to.
Just depends on the Benjamins.
December 6th, 2019 at 3:34 pm
ZZ , B&C – Of course they would LIKE to extend Godwin early. He obviously deserves to make more than $875k next year. But they don’t HAVE to do it this coming off season. Godwin IS under contract for 2020. Taking advantage of the 4 cheap years you get a mid to later round draft pick for is something that good teams do.
Question – How many players have had their contracts extended after their 3rd year by the Patriots in the last decade?
Follow up question – How many times have the Patriots developed a player picked in a mid or later round and traded them within 4 years for draft picks or let them walk in free agency after 4 years for compensatory draft picks -because the player was more interested in cashing in than staying in New England to win championships on a somewhat team friendly deal?
I’m not saying the Bucs should or will do either of the later with Godwin. He’s a special player and deserves to get paid what he’s worth ASAP in most everyone’s estimation at this point.
But doesn’t Jason Licht have the responsibility to stretch the hard salary cap dictated funds available – as far as possible to field the best team possible in any given upcoming year?
If signing Godwin to a big extension a year early means we don’t have enough to pay JPP what he’s worth (and would command on the open market) next year – then which is more important to the success of this team in 2020? Keeping our defensive leader and one of the better Edge guys in the game (vs run and pass combined in one player) – or keeping Chris Godwin “happy” with a huge raise a year early?
Lots of tough choices are going to have to be made over the next 3 months regarding who to pay, how much and who to let walk in free agency.
Its tough to have to make some of these choices Licht is faced with this year – but on the other hand – being in the position of having to make all these tough choices is good because it means you have more talent than you can pay and/or want to part with.
Just some food for thought.
Perhaps instead of paying Godwin big bucks this off season – they let it ride into next season and then when they know better what they will have to work with in 2021 – they sign Godwin to an extension sometime during the season and thus lessen the blow to the 2020 cap hit. I believe thats what happened with Evans – yes? They extended him early but not a full year early.
Bucaroni&Cheese Says:
Good management practices would be to plan more than one season ahead and at least prepare for 2021
Of course – you have to look down the road constantly. But keep in mind that the salary cap # has been going up about $10M every year – and more importantly that a lot is up in the air beyond 2020 until a new CBA is agreed on and implemented. There’s really no telling what 2021 will be like at this point. The cap # could jump significantly in just that 1 year potentially. Or perhaps they decide that each team gets one pass per year on a single player’s salary that won’t count against the cap – in order to help teams get a handle on the skyrocketing cost of paying and keeping a franchise Quarterback…
And when in the NFL is any coach or GM’s job completely secure 2 years in the future?
Its a win now league.
If the Bucs don’t start winning more games than they lose between now and the end of 2020 – Id be willing to bet that neither Licht nor BA will be here in 2021.
December 6th, 2019 at 3:45 pm
TOM Says:
Pickgrin: A lot of the money spent can be offset by letting Brate, Perriman, Gholston, Dotson, Suh, Gabbert, D. Stewart & Acho. Savings approx. 40 mil.
Perriman, Dotson, Suh and Gabbert are all free agents after this season Tom. There is no “savings” when a player is not already under contract for the following year.
Brate – $6M
Gholston – $4.75M
MJ Stewart – $1.16M (including a dead cap hit of $444k if released)
So the potential “savings” by cutting (or trading) those 3 players is just under $12M combined. – About what it will cost to bring JPP back if you wanted to look at it that way – or pay Godwin a year early – or about half of what it will cost to pay Winston.
December 6th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Shaq Barrett… sign him to a 5 year deal NOW.
He is, by far, Jason Licht’s best FA signing.
Shaq has given us a presence,, given us a high-motor, relentless pass rusher, with a good attitude and coachable.
Even non-Bucs fans know how good this guy is.
Bring him back.
December 6th, 2019 at 9:45 pm
Shaq is going no where. Lose JPP and get DT Javon Kinlaw (South Carolina) in the first. 6’6″ 310 lbs. 3-4 athletic freak.