Bruce Arians: “There’s So Much Great Stuff And So Much Horrible Stuff”
December 29th, 2019
Whoa!
Bucco Bruce Arians sounds like a man firmly on the fence when it comes to America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
After today’s overtime loss to the Falcons at the Den of Depression, the Bucs head coach was asked to reflect on the good things Jameis has done this season.
“There’s so much great stuff and so much horrible stuff,” Arians told the Buccaneers Radio Network.
“That’s what makes it tough to decide,” he added, noting Jameis’ future will be an organizational decision.
Sure, Arians might just be saying what he needs to say for the sake of team negotiations with Jameis, but that’s really not Arians. He’s the same guy who said weeks ago that free-agent-to-be linebacker Shaq Barrett wasn’t going anywhere.
Joe has long written that nobody scripts a soap opera like the Bucs. Nobody!
Jameis ending the season on a pick-6 after a kicker meltdown leads to overtime. That’s so Bucs. So is not knowing about your quarterback’s future after five full seasons.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:53 pm
RYAN FITZPATRICK BEAT THE PATRIOTS!!!!!!!
…..and that’s all you need to know
December 29th, 2019 at 4:53 pm
JAMEIS BLOWS 30/30
….you so dumb Jameis ^^^^^^
December 29th, 2019 at 4:53 pm
You know it’s bad when all the Fitz shills were right.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:56 pm
…….and if you think Grandpa Smurf wants to ride another rollercoaster ride with Jameis again for another season???……that you’re dumber than I thought you were.
Bucco Brucie doesn’t want to be remembered or his Legacy tied to a QB that has a box of rocks inbetween his ears.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:57 pm
IF! And a big if, this was Jameis’ last game as a buc it will have ended the way it started… With and interception. Progressing??
December 29th, 2019 at 4:57 pm
Good Lord! Fitzpatrick won almost as many games with the tank’phins, as we did this year.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:57 pm
He will be coming back…….. At the right price.
Not sure Carr Dalton or Bridgewater are the answer.
I am also sure JW isn’t the answer …..
Si we are pretty complicated !!
It’s a Bucs life!
December 29th, 2019 at 4:57 pm
If Winston could just cut his mistakes by a third, he’d be worth every penny of $30mil/year.
Imagine how great his stats could be without all the drives ended by INTs and p-6s…
It’s really hard to grasp…
December 29th, 2019 at 4:58 pm
OH WAIT
I just remembered Jameis1of1 is the GM he won’t let winston leave. nevermind
December 29th, 2019 at 4:58 pm
It’s not working.
One word, Ryan Tannerhill.
OK two words, but hey at least I didn’t throw a pick six to end the season.
December 29th, 2019 at 4:58 pm
Funny! I’ve always said the BUCS are my “sports soap opera”. Oh well, GO BUCS!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:00 pm
Michael Strahan said it best on Jameis future, “I’m glad that I’m not the one making that decision!”
That pick-6 is going to sting for a long time to come. What will the Bucs do?
December 29th, 2019 at 5:00 pm
Oh, Tennessee doesn’t want Tannehill!? C’mon, man!! This ain’t fantasy!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:00 pm
Hell
I’ll even say this….
If Granpa Smurf had Ryan Fitzpatrick as his QB……this team would’ve made it to the playoffs as a wildcard team
December 29th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
Lol I don’t think we’ll see any Jamies fans today on here joe!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
Where is Ryan Fitzpatrick when you need him?
Oh, yeah. He just beat the Patriots.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
it’s clearly time to move on. That is unless you want to waste more years.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
Draft Tua
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
This team will never sniff the playoffs as long as Winston is the QB.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
I wouldn’t draft Tua
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
especially after news broke Jameis wants more than the tag
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
Licht doesn’t have a choice he has to let Jameis go next year there’s no way in hell he can justify giving him the franchise tag next year at 27 mil he would have a riot on his hands. There’s no need to talk about a long term deal that went to S*** weeks ago this game was about justifying using the franchise tag on him instead of say Shaq Barrett but there’s no way we can let that happen. Licht needs to come to his senses like he did with Hargreaves and Spence and cut his losses.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:02 pm
The pick 6’s this year are an anomaly. He threw like 4 of them his first 4 years total. This was another game just like the Giants where the defense didn’t hold and the kicker had a bad game. Just fix that and this would have been a 9-7 season and the idiot fans wouldn’t be all over Winston.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Nobody mentioning those 3 missed field goals which would have secured the win huh? I won’t pile on Jameis. Everybody else is doing a great job of that. Instead, since I live out West, The wife and I have free sneak peek viewing tickets to the movie 1917. (Perk from the job) We want to forget our Bucs losing season and end out weekend on a great note. Off we go. Another losing season and more omeprazole for me. There is always..next yr.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Koetter has not stopped grinning !
December 29th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Done with all the stinking turnovers. Can’t do it anymore.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Jason licht needs to be held accountable for missing in a kicker again.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Fitz sucks too. There’s a reason he’s played for half the teams in the league.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Matt Gay didn’t throw a Pick6 INT in OT….
….you just don’t do that
so don’t go there
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Mike Johnson,
Get rid of Gay and Licht while we are at it. Done with the QB,
K, and incompetent dude whom drafted the QB and both Ks.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
BA is full of crap when it comes to the offensive gameplan. He’s got another season with a boatload of talented players. At least, we ain’t catfish this season. Panthers are.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:04 pm
This is the idiot fans I’m talking about like NPR and Anthem.
Tom Brady the goat lost to the Dolphins today for a BYE at home.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:05 pm
@TheBucsAnthem Says:
RYAN FITZPATRICK BEAT THE PATRIOTS!!!!!!!
…..and that’s all you need to know
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BA kicked him from here, so JW is relax and focus….. what a joke coach we have….
JW is going to stay, and we are doomed……..
BA = LovieS 2.0
December 29th, 2019 at 5:06 pm
Those against Jameis. You’re foolish whoops. Find a new team if you dont like him.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:06 pm
Jameis will be Our QB next year, and I hope all of Haters, will choose other teams to root for!!!!! Best QB in Franchise History!!! Go Bucs!!!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:07 pm
If a QB stays in the league for this long and has bounced between backup and starter for over 10 years AND still wins games too?!?!?!?!
……he’s atleast made 50 million and he sure sounds like a winner to me
FITZ rules!!!!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:07 pm
Arians said that we really have to evaluate the kicker and the quarterback struggling at home. That should not happen.
Arians said that Winston was going to his favorite guy on that last play and just cannot throw it because he is covered.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Jameis ” meaningless stats ” Winston America’s QB, Mr excrement, 30 – 30 man is going to be the QB of the Bucs next year.
It is as it is.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Winston lovers unite! You and your boy are steaming piles of poo. You are a bunch of losers. Please leave.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Best case scenario heading into week 16 and 17……………Jameis shows what kind of player he is. His stock came crashing down.
I am pissed about how the game ended but we are better for it. Better draft pick, better decision about kicking game and QB play. The Young defense improved bigtime……….
7-9 is what we needed.
Offer Jameis a very low ball offer………..he can go start for Jax or LAC
CASE CLOSED……….JAMEIS WINSTON IS A BUST!!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
now now now
Jameis Lovers and Apologists are people too……be nice
December 29th, 2019 at 5:12 pm
I don’t need 5,000 yards an 33 td’s. I can get a 2nd or 3rd rounder to throw 3,400 yards and 25 td’s. 13 int’s and put my money into the defense and strengthen the OL. I don’t see how you bring Winston back without a team friendly deal.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:12 pm
After listening to his press conference it sounds like there will be a new whipping boy here next year. I hope you are all happy and God help us with what we are able to find to play QB going forward.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:13 pm
BA was also asked if JW was fixable and he said “thats something i’ll have to evaluate”
Most questions about other players he was happy to say good things about other than JW and the kicker….about Matt Gay though, he did say that Gay will get a lot of reps on that end of the field in training camp next season….so obviously Gay will be back.
I got a huge feeling BA is ready to move on from JW….and i dont blame him.
Like he also said, when you’re 5-3 on the road, you’re in the playoffs!
I kind of feel like he does, something about JW playing at home just doesnt add up. Its time to move on and im pretty sure we are…..He also said “we wont be beating ourselves next year”…..
Oh yeah! Moving on. Bye JW and all your INT’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:14 pm
Ha ha ha. The clown show is gone. Thank God
December 29th, 2019 at 5:15 pm
Will there be an ESPN 30 for 30 on Jameis 30/30?
December 29th, 2019 at 5:16 pm
Kai Forbath hasn’t missed since he took over in Dallas
December 29th, 2019 at 5:17 pm
Man, I sure will miss being so ENTERTAINED…….
Ha.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:17 pm
I said it weeks ago… now ya’ll believe me… Tank for Trevor. Go Clemson.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:18 pm
Winston will be back, and have more money, than any of you could imagine!!!! LMAO………
December 29th, 2019 at 5:18 pm
Only this team, this organization can have the defense let the other team go right down the field for a TD to open the game, have the running back fumble on the first play of the game, have the kicker miss 3 FGs, have a WR run a wrong route causing a TO, the defense having the lead in the 4th quarter only to blow it again and amass 97 yards in penalities, yet all we want to do is blame the QB.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:19 pm
I have had enough of Winston-no more please!
Joe please start the conversation about other options. Thankyou.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
What is there to decide, Jameis is a loser. He is directly responsible for 6 losses this season. He walks around with a dark cloud over his head.
You should have seen that last week and we should have seen what Griffin could do this week. Now we are totally lost on the direction this franchise wants to go.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
Tenn may be in the playoffs this year. THEY MOVED ON.
New England moved on from Drew Blesoe how did that turn out.
Kansas moved on from Alex Smith how did that turn out
Sometimes you just move on. If Winston becomes a great QB somewhere else…….so be it. He had his chance here. Tampa gave him is shot. He will have the best stats of any QB ever in Tampa but his limitations far overcome his attributes.
MOVE ON
December 29th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
Torn about Jameis. The first pick was the receiver’s fault. Terrible read. Ran a fly and Jameis threw a post. Miscommunication. We were missing three of our four WR’s and it showed what a huge difference that makes for the second straight week. The fact is that once again our FG kicker lost the game…again. We should not have been in OT. He cost us a 9-7 season. Period. Nevertheless, you cannot throw a pick six in an OT game against a crap team, which the Falcons are.
Alas, Jameis has had five years to grow out of the TO’s and he has regressed. If the Bucs are going to spend $30+ million on a QB then it might as well be Teddy Bridgewater as he is the only FA QB worth taking a chance on. Time to ay goodbye to Jameis. We have a top ten D now, two Pro Bowl WR’s, two quality TE’s, a top notch #3 in Perriman, and tons of cap space. I’d draft Etienne with the first pick and OL with the second, and move on. We cannot waste next season.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
Apparently BA does not agree with NDOG in his assessment of things. But according to NDOG, he knows more football than Arians.
According to BA – Gay is horrible at home and Winston is horrible at home.
According to NDOG it is everything else on the team and Winston is one of the greatest QB’s ever.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Unless Jameis 1 of 1 is fired Jameis will be here next season. Arians throwing cover for Jameis 1 of 1 for some kind of leverage in negotiations
December 29th, 2019 at 5:24 pm
Ndog…..again, D sucks, wrong routes, no running game, missed fg’s (those happen)….but none of those guys threw the INT’s….again, whats the definition on insanity?
Overall, D has greatly improved, run game has improved compared to last year (still need to draft a RB though), and the kicking game has improved.
So what area did I not mention has improved?
December 29th, 2019 at 5:28 pm
@Craig Says:
“You should have seen that last week and we should have seen what Griffin could do this week. Now we are totally lost on the direction this franchise wants to go.”
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…and is one person responsible for this: BA
he should resign, and never come back…if any pride is left on him… OR he keeps JW, and makes a big list of justifications for 2020….and WE, the Bucs fans(NOT JW FANS), are left with team that cause us ONLY pain…:(
BA = LovieS 2.0
December 29th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
I SEE THE NPUPPY DEFENSE IS ALREADY BEING USED TODAY. Blame a defense who allowed 16 actual points. Oh, and scored themselves another 7 points. Tops in the league. But blame the defense and kicker!
December 29th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Doosh…with Jameis, the entertainment always ends
in December.
December 29th, 2019 at 5:51 pm
nfl.com never writes anything good about the Bucs but they sure enough wrote about the 30/30 club!
December 29th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
Franchise Jameis. Put disincentives into his contract for total interceptions, game losing interceptions and pick sixes.
Just a thought.
December 29th, 2019 at 6:33 pm
Franchise Jameis Winston — then trade him to Miami for the 25th & 70th picks.
ala Washington Kirk Cousin’s trade to Minnesota
December 29th, 2019 at 7:03 pm
Luv
I certainly think that’s a great idea. Do you think the Dolphins would go for that?
I sometimes wonder if we had taken that first pick in the draft we used on JW and loaded up on picks in a trade what our team might look like.
December 29th, 2019 at 7:10 pm
Well Arians had no problem saying Barrett would be back. I think ultimately Winston will but they’d be fools to commit long term. Prib a tag and bring in a mid round qb with possibly taking one in 2021 if Winston doesn’t clean things up and mid rounder doesn’t show enough
December 29th, 2019 at 8:02 pm
Arians can be one candid dude sometimes, but I would be shocked if Jameis wasn’t brought back for at least a year.
December 29th, 2019 at 8:41 pm
When you watch a Buccaneers game you’re waiting for Winston to make huge mistakes and the blame goes to receivers running the wrong routes the kicking game is bad poor Jameis never does anything wrong never did anything wrong in college never groped an Uber driver and if the team gives him 30 million plus a year you can count me out as a Buccaneer fan… And also they got to get rid of those ugly uniforms ever since I got those uniforms it’s been bad. Go Rays!
December 29th, 2019 at 10:04 pm
Dapostman Says:
“This was another game just like the Giants where the defense didn’t hold…”
.
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I don’t care what anyone’s opinion is of the QB, this phrase right here is asinine. The defense won this game practically on their own today, and had it snatched away from them. The defense BALLED.
December 29th, 2019 at 11:41 pm
@Barack,
the defense played a good game but didn’t hold the lead in the 4th quarter. It is what it is.
These are called facts. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
December 30th, 2019 at 7:17 am
@Dapostman
IDK Brother. The defense was on the field for over 36 minutes, and only allowed one TD on a trick play. Those guys had to be dog tired, with the offense managing one whole 3rd down conversion and a second half filled with three-and-outs.