“They’re Not Doing What They’re Being Coached To Do”
November 3rd, 2019
Someone very, very, very close to Bucco Bruce Arians, a true Buccaneers and Arians insider, is not a happy camper.
Joe has written previously about feisty Jake Arians, son of the Tampa Bay head coach. The younger Arians, also a friend of general manager Jason Licht, co-hosts a podcast for The Draft Network and once in a while shares good insight into his dad’s team.
And this was one those of weeks.
Joe heard a good nugget when Jake Arians ranted about the Bucs’ losing ways. He praised plenty about the defense but lamented turnovers and the Bucs’ trademark — finding ways to lose.
But he also got fired up saying players are too often tuning out coaches.
“They have a young team that doesn’t know how to win. And they’re not doing what they’re being coached to do because I know how good the staff is,” Jake Arians said. “Regardless if it’s my frickin’ dad or not, you can kiss my ass on all that. The proof is five years in Arizona; the staff is phenomenal. They’re not doing everything they’re being coached to do. And it’s biting them in the ass and they’re losing games. That’s three they’ve given away.”
Joe’s completely frustrated hearing this kind of thing. Joe’s still getting over assistant head coach Harold Goodwin saying the roster is still working on buying in to the coaching staff this season.
When does the madness end? And if players aren’t responding to coaching, then where are the lineup changes? Where was a trade or two?
Joe sure hopes the Bucs find a way knock off Seattle tomorrow and avoid a four-game losing streak.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:11 am
Could it be that Licht Weight has put together a crummy roster…topped off by the lousy 2019 draft? Nah…they good…1 outta 3 ain’t bad.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:31 am
holy god was Mike Smith right when he said the players just aren’t responding to coaching and this wasn’t on him?
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:41 am
“They arent doing what they’ve been coached to do”
They are losing- I hope thats not what they were coached to do!
So many excuses being thrown around, but one thing remains constant-
We still suck.
We’ve changed Coaches, Players, etc.
Obviously- we still havent made the right change.
Looking at you Jameis
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:44 am
Careful Tim, the Jameis defense force will swoop in and attempt to prove you wrong for saying that.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:44 am
Watched Fitz last week.
Fitz is playing good, on a horrible team.
Jameis is playing horrible, on a good time.
Despite all the excuses- that offense should be lethal
Instead, its like shooting the team in the foot
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:52 am
Probably something to that statement…Bucs don’t know how to Win. And I’ll add to that…We have no leadership to help get it done either. Who’s the leader? Jameis ? Who’s the leader on Defense? The closet thing Bucs had to a leader was GMC. Note I said..closest. Its a big problem. Its gonna take some mega coaching and counseling to rid this franchise of its loser mentality. Arians though he was gonna walk on in here and BAM!!..Win with what he had huh? Wrong. I see some big changes comin next season.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:57 am
Capt Tim…
Are they really a good team?
Why do you say this?
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:00 am
Sounds like sonny boy is a little defensive and amped up.
Will be interesting to see if the staff goes into political mode and starts blaming everyone but themselves. Perhaps some will even walk away rather than tarnish their self created “legacy”
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:01 am
If Arians hasn’t lost this team already, he will be soon if he can’t geta win… Why buy in to a losing system…
And if he keeps throwing everyone else under the bus to save his QBs fragile state then they should all revolt and leave him and Turnover hanging out to dry!
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:05 am
We will get owned tomorrow and we deserve to. We are putting a bad qb on the field and have a below average defense thanks to our General Manager.
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:07 am
So Tim tell us all these great things this oh so talented team is doing well?
It is the impressive running game?
No no it must be the stellar pass defense?
Oh it must be our Savage return game?
Wait a minute is it our great blitz pick up by our undrafted 3rd string running back?
Maybe it’s our tremendous Right Tackle depth that has been on display?
Please sir enlighten us with your wisdom on what we are doing on this team to make it “good”?
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:10 am
Never forget legitimately the ONLY two parts of this team doing anything well is the passing game and the run defense, everything else has been trash. Yet the QB is the issue, my goodness you people are dense
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:21 am
We will not be owhed tomorrow …but it is time to SHOW AND TELL! START FAST ….and SHOCK THE WORLD…at least the football world!! GO FAMOUS. GO JPP GO SUHY! BUCS WIN!
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:41 am
Ndog talking about two parts . Two holes
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:41 am
Everything is trash but Jamie’s
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:47 am
Move them to Orlando
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:50 am
Jamie’s Burt hole
Jamie’s mouth
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:14 am
Teams put 8 men inthe box, to stop the run.
Then dare Jameis to beat them.
And he lacks the Accuracy to do so.
Remember how fantastic this team looked, with Fitz running the offense.
90% of the QBs in the league, would love to play in this offense.
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:22 am
With at least 1,500 passes, Jameis Winston has a career Int% of 3.2% among starting QBs. The only starter worse than him, is Fitz. This season alone, his Int% is 4.6%!
Again, with at least 1,500 passes, Jameis Winston has a career completion% of 61.1% among starting QBs. The only starter worse than him, is Fitz and Cam if he gets his job back.
With at least 1,500 passes, Jameis Winston has a career TD to Int ratio of 1.46 among starting QBs. The only starter worse than him, is Fitz.
With at least 1,500 passes, Jameis Winston has a career TD% of 4.67%. It’s average as he’s in top 15 in this category.
Does this sound like a franchise QB to hand over the vault and another 3-5 years?
So, when some people rhetorically ask, “What rookie QB is going to come in here and do better?”, the real answer should be, “It can’t get much worse.”
This team needs a lot of work, and the QB is 1 of those pieces. You can’t just ignore that. I’ll take the odds that another QB can AT LEAST play better than Fitz and Winston next year.
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:46 am
the Tampa buccaneers the soul first owner of the only Owen 14 record going forward still sticks in the minds of its in paled franchise they can’t compete at the NFL level
November 3rd, 2019 at 5:32 am
Aahh yes, THIS is the JBF I come here for. JBFers actually talking FOOTBALL instead of whining or nitpicking each other. Gotta love it.
Jake Arians is probably onto something here, in that his bottom line … “That’s three that they’ve given away” … is spot on. Giants, Titans & 2nd Panthers game were all there for the taking. And had we won those, we’d be talking 5-2 instead of 2-5, and we’d be talking playoffs right now. Instead we’re at the bottom of the well looking up.
But he’s also looking at THE PROBLEM through rose-colored glasses. Jake absolved this coaching staff of being ‘part of the problem’ and pushed the blame onto the players. It’s THEM who don’t ‘know how to win’. It’s THEM who aren’t ‘doing everything they’re being coached to do’.
Reality IMO is that it’s BOTH the coaching staff AND the players. Or more specifically SOME of the players. SOME lack sufficient talent, period. SOME lack the fortitude to overcome bad situations when they happen (and they continually do). And SOME are just young, and are having a LOT thrown at them very quickly (and lot who apparently aren’t ‘getting it’ as fast as this coaching staff feels they should). Probably a lot of other reasons to.
But this coaching staff bears a LOT of the responsibility for losing those 3 games. Sorry BA, but there was some LOUSY COACHING in all 3 of those games. And primarily on offense. Bucs had TWELVE turnovers in those 3 games against 3 takeaways. That’s a turnover differential of NINE!!! THAT has nothing to do with the Bucs’ defense’. THAT’S a hole that very few teams, good or bad, could crawl out of.
Yes, the players ultimately bear the responsibility for turning the ball over. Jameis & the OLine especially (sorry ndog). But COACHING is a huge part of the problem, and especially with a QB who’s had turnover problems his whole career. Play design & play-calling are crucifying this offense, and thus the team.
In BA’s first year in Indy (2012), rookie QB Andrew Luck went 11-5, and was 5-3 in his first 8 games. He threw for 4,374 passing yards & 18 TDs, yet only completed 54% of his passes, threw 18 INTs, and was sacked 41 times. Colts had a TOTAL of 27 TOs that year. Let the 18 TDs, 18 INTs, 27 TOs & 41 sacks sink in.
In BA’s first year in Arizona (2013), veteran QB Carson Palmer went 10-6, and was 4-4 in his first 8 games. He threw for 4,274 passing yards & 24 TDs, completing 63% of his passes, threw 22 INTs, and was sacked 41 times. Cardinals had a TOTAL of 31 TOs that year. Now let the 24 TDs, 22 INTs, 31 TOs & 41 sacks sink in.
In this BA’s first year in Tampa, veteran QB Jameis Winston is now 2-5 on the season. He’s passed for 2,072 yards thus far (extrapolates to 4,736 passing yards for this season). He’s thrown 14 TDs (projected 32 TDs on the season), has 12 INTs (projected 27 INTs on the season), and has been sacked 28 times already (projected 64 sacks on the season). Bucs have already had 17 TOs (projected 31 TOs on the season). Let those (projected) 32 TDs, 27 INTs, 31 TOs & 64 sacks sink in also.
Anyone notice any similarities between the 2012 Colts, the 2013 Cards & the 2019 Bucs? Yup, LOTS of passing yards, a goodly number of passing TDs, LOTS & LOTS of sacks (QBs getting pummeled?), and LOTS & LOTS of turnovers by the offense.
So no Jake, this coaching staff isn’t ‘PHENOMENAL’ like you said. It has its flaws on offense, BIG TIME. And with a very young defense like the Bucs have, those flaws are devastating.
November 3rd, 2019 at 5:57 am
Arians in your face transparent coaching style does not work with these millennial kids coming up through the draft. You have got to take into consideration that most of these players were brought up with 8 years of Obama’s soft PC leadership.
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:06 am
time to clean house rebuild ….. GM on down under jason licked , weve have lost 66% of our games under his tenure ….. you are what your record says you are…
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:37 am
Sharthappens “You have got to take into consideration that most of these players were brought up with 8 years of Obama’s soft PC leadership.”
As opposed to what these past two plus years of lie after lie after lie? Alternative facts are still a lie. Great leadership does not have to lie, or obstruct the rest of us from hearing and learning the truth. So if that is what your version of hard PC leadership, I pass. Just like I did in 2016 and will in 2020. So if the next few years of young people who are brought up under the dumb Trump leadership in your mind will all be what? Hard? Better educated? More able to take the lessons from practice to the field on game day, why would that be?
Full of sharthappens too.
End of political rant.
GO BUCS!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:38 am
Bottom line: Arians came in, said he could handle it and he failed. He didn’t say, “I don’t know about this team, or whether I can fix it.” Where’s the accountability, Coach?
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:42 am
Hahahaha!
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:43 am
Sounds like the whole family is a bunch of whinners..
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:44 am
So I am being moderated for calling out hypocrisy? To damn funny.
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:45 am
Why was my post removed? It was sports revalant
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:48 am
What he did in AZ. You mean quit before he was fired? I hope that’s what he does at seasons end, or sooner. The players aren’t buying in because they know they can’t win with Jameis’s turnovers. It’s hard to have hope when your QB’s first throw of the game is a pick. Same game he throws 4 more, and fumbles twice, once in the red zone. The only player on the team who can’t be coached is the most important one, Jameis Winston.
November 3rd, 2019 at 6:58 am
Who is the player in this photo with Coach Arians and Coach Bowles.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:01 am
Maybe..just maybe…we have a boatload of mentally slower than average players.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:04 am
EVERYONE ON THIS SITE KNEW WE HAD MANY WEAKNESSES GOING INTO THE SEASON.THEY STILL EXIST AND WE WILL PROBABLY WIN FOUR GAMES.ALL ROADS LEAD BACK TO THE OWNERS ,THE GM AND THE COACHES.THE OWNERS NEED TO HAVE THE INTERNAL FORTITUDE TO MAKE MANY CHANGES NEXT YEAR.REALLITY—WE DON’T THINK THEY WILL ACT RATIONALLY!!!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:12 am
All these gosh damn excuses for this coaching staff. If there is a clique of players tuning the coaches out then bench them or trade them before the trade deadline. Wasted season that just screams incompetence throughout the entire organization.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:24 am
DefenceRules: yes I see all the similarities from team to team and of course th
e offenses all seem to have a turn over problem but can you really put that on the coaching staff! Coaches coach and Players play! You have to get the right amount of true star talent mixed with the average players, and a dose of true onfield leadership on both sides of the ball, you can’t coach that players have to step up and become that! This team, my team is lacking in leadership department, somebody on that O/line needs to be getting in somebody’s a$$ on the sideline when you can’t a badly needed third and one! Or when the wrong route is run or when you jump off sides! But anyway this teams you named all had the same coaching and they all had a lack of onfiield leadership,,,maybe!
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:27 am
It’s really pretty obvious to me. The QB needs to be the leader but Jameis is not a good leader. He is not only not held accountable but rather his coaches bail him out. This seems a very poor message to the rest of the team. I was a huge fan of Jameis after watching him at FSU, so this comes from someone who wanted him to do well. I believe if we had a solid QB we would be at least 5-2, maybe better and the team would be playing much better.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:33 am
“BA is so predictable
Going to use his “who the Fk is Jake” son
I’m being serious
Who the hell is he
A nobody now being used as by BA to prove to everyone he is the VICTIM
cant take the blame and be accountable
First the secondary is fixed and now they have to get their heads out there arse
BA is going to tear the team apart
Kobe Faker returns 25 hours 28 minutes”
Son of Kobe Faker
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:48 am
So the players don’t do what they are coached….
Like….the children who don’t behave like their parents taught.
Or the students who simply don’t learn from a teacher.
Seems to me…..it’s the job of a coach to succeed at getting players to do what they are coached to do…..
Now, if the players lack talent good enough to win…..well, that’s anther story.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:26 am
Why is it we can’t find a coach who don’t mind running the ball?? Every coach we get all they want to do is throw the ball 45 times a game. And all the passes have to be 15 to 20 yards up the field and you wonder why the quarterbacks have so many interceptions and fumbles. You can’t hold the ball 8 seconds a pass waiting for wr to run these long routes….
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:38 am
Like i said last week, we are rebuilding. Get those who arent buying in the fk out. Blow this shtshow up and lets get some coachable players.
Theres about 15-20 worth keeping, most of the rooks since they’re on rook contracts and just need to be allowed to develop at their position, but def keep JPP and Barret! Probably Suh too. Gholston is looking like a keeper but for the right price.
We need QB, RT, and CB, DE, CB…another RB wouldnt hurt if the right FA comes along or Zack Moss is there in the 4th round.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE ARE REBUILDING!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:40 am
Play calling sucks too btw, get that leftswitch outta here!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:43 am
“Regardless if it’s my frickin’ dad or not, you can kiss my ass on all that. The proof is five years in Arizona; the staff is phenomenal.
One playoff win in five years in Arizona. One.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:30 am
Wonder if they ever threw a screen pass in AZ…
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:32 am
Wonder if they ever threw a screen pass in AZ…
BA is looking more and more like a complete fraud, and not shy about it either. Surely he doesn’t think we believe the BS he’s putting out.
Somebody better get him to a Dr. for a dementia screening.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:49 am
None of you guys may want to admit the obvious…that we drafted a boatload of guys with lower cognitive ability. All you can say is “coaching, GM’s, Owners”. Newsflash… Intelligence is as much of a player trait as a 40 time. That is why guys like Lynch and Barber were great players…they had it upstairs and exceeded their physical abilities. Like a wise man said…hard to fix stupid.
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:07 am
BA has just told 1 truth since he has arrived by Golfcart
1 and only1
He has stated he would only comeback from retirement and coach the Cleveland Browns
Since Cleveland laughed at him
BA and our Burner GM conned the Glazers and the Tampa bay Bucs fanbase by bringing in recent fired coaching staffs from the 4-12 Jets and 3-13 Cardinals
My Dad is on the phone talking to our personal family attorney
Morgan &Morgan to see if we have a criminal case
Kobe Faker returns 21 hours 53 minutes
And hell and possibly Morgan&Morgan will come with him”
Son of Kobe Faker