“My Coach Is Straight Gangsta”
November 16th, 2019
Remember when Bucco Bruce Arians threw a challenge flag in the fourth quarter last Sunday when he didn’t have a challenge remaining?
That cost the Bucs a potentially valuable timeout, but Arians said it was an intentional ploy to make a statement to officials.
Do people really believe Arians did that intentionally? Joe is not sure.
All non-believers have missed the point, former Bucs blocking icon wide receiver Michael Clayton says. He told WDAE radio that the Arians move was all about badass inspiration.
“It doesn’t matter if we believe it or not. The most inspiring thing is that he said what he said. So now his team is buying in like, ‘Man, my coach is straight gangsta. All right. So we’re going out here and we’re going to turn it up a notch.’
“That’s the most important thing, is his energy and how he’s carrying himself to bring his team together. It doesn’t matter what’s true or not. The only thing that matters is how his team responds.”
Clayton added that he is in love with the energy Arians brings to the Bucs.
Joe was a bit confused by Clayton’s logic. Isn’t it only “gangsta” if the players know in the moment that Arians threw the flag intentionally? So did Arians make sure every player knew he was making a statement and didn’t just screw up? Joe hasn’t heard anyone suggest Arians made sure all players knew he made a gangsta move.
Regardless, the Bucs won and maybe they benefited in some way from the charged timeout.
Joe can’t wait to see what mind games Arians has in store for the Saints on Sunday.
November 16th, 2019 at 12:15 pm
John McKay was the OG
November 16th, 2019 at 12:15 pm
I liked the move too. The refs have been straight horse manure most games. Especially in 2nd half… almost makes you wonder sometimes… like WWE… u know there’s some predetermined bias or questionable calls to screw a team over… u see it in almost every NFL game… with all the gambling going on too I wouldn’t doubt it.
November 16th, 2019 at 12:16 pm
i find that hard to believe, after calling two timeouts in a row geeze
November 16th, 2019 at 12:28 pm
I was calling for him to challenge that play knowing we couldn’t just to make the officials and the rule look stupid.
On plays like that it shouldn’t matter if we have a challenge. The both should buzz down just like they did a few minutes later for the PI call on Evans.
I believe he did it on purpose and I believe he did it because everyone on the bench wanted him too. The Rule is Stupid… Enough Said…
November 16th, 2019 at 12:33 pm
Oh, Joe! LOL
November 16th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
I am mixed on this one……timeouts are critical in close games……perhaps he could have run around with red flag in hand waiving it around and yelling at refs and accomplished the same thing without using a TO…..
Of course, it is possible he wanted a TO anyway in which case it was a brilliant move….
November 16th, 2019 at 12:42 pm
Yeah I don’t understand this at all. Everyone in the stadium, including the refs, can see on the big screen that his knee was down.
So since they made the wrong call, it has to stand? Why can’t they meet and say his knee was down and change the call to get it correct.
Isn’t making the correct call the jobs of these refs? I totally get what Arians was doing, he was trying to get the refs together to talk about that previous play. Kind of like how Marvin Lewis did us.
November 16th, 2019 at 12:52 pm
Am I confused? I thought we won that game.
Yeah I get it…fun to second guess all the plays and calls.
Due to my background I feel I’d be an imposter if I tried to determine “gangsta” but I certainly get Clayton’s point. I believe HE would have a pretty good idea of “gangsta”. I only know about it from music and movies.
If Clayton is right it’s all good.
November 16th, 2019 at 12:54 pm
They’re saying: “My head coach who doesn’t really interact with us players, is straight gangsta.”
November 16th, 2019 at 1:01 pm
Steelstudbuc I’ve thought the same thing for a long time even when bets could only be in Vegas it seemed sometimes calls were made to screw a team
November 16th, 2019 at 1:13 pm
I like Arians.. thought he was a good hire… Respectable!
All that is fading like a candle flaming out!
He doesn’t interact with his players to coach them
He talk out f both sides of his mouth
He make rookie coaching mistakes and the validates them late with BS
Blows smoke about his QB, film shows playing bad but he say is playing great (pitiful)
Said defense was fixed
Leaves play calling to a former failed QB who isn’t calling games well
Bowles looking like bad choice at DC
Run game is sketchy
This thing is circling the drain rapidly in his 1st season and he doesn’t have the ‘berries’ to make the obvious changes to turn this team around because it will be admitting some f his choice were mistakes…
Start calling plays
Get more involved with offense
Be looking for a QB that doesn’t hurt the team going forward next season and beyond
Rethink your DC
Hire better oc next season
If the owners boo it all up and start all over, it want be a shock, and in some ways, a relief!
November 16th, 2019 at 1:20 pm
Agree w above from Tye
November 16th, 2019 at 1:24 pm
More like Grandpasta.
November 16th, 2019 at 1:27 pm
Thank’s Tye i could not of said it any better spot on.
November 16th, 2019 at 1:53 pm
Joe, you’re obviously not “GANGSTA”, so you wouldn’t understand.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:00 pm
I’m not gangsta either so there’s that..
November 16th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
I think it was to make the refs aware that they are missing calls. Even though they werent able to review or overturn the call they could see on the screen and agree w/ him and say youre right we missed it. That helps in the future for the refs to be more alert.
I dont know about the firing your team up and costing your team a timeout though. However basketball coaches (myself included) have gotten Techs intentionally to get their team fired up and show youre doing all you can as a coach now its your turn as a player to match my energy and do all you can.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
I like Clayton but I swear he sounds like he’s wound up on meth or coke. Someone needs to GANGSTA the zebs for all the blatant bad calls Bucs have endured for years. Hope BA has wised up to it.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:24 pm
I have wondered if him throwing challenge flags on PI that he knows we won’t win is to force the refs to go under the screen and force them to watch the replay of a bad flag.
Could make a good debate of them being forced to see a bad pentalty changes the way they call the rest of the game.
This theory don’t seem to make much of a difference when they extended the game on a BS flag to Hargreaves but what about that last play? Did they perhaps hold the flag in fear of screwing the Bucs right after extending the game on a bad flag?
Either way we already lost a game with bad refs killing our chances(Tennessee) and it’s not getting better with awful calls both ways last week. The NFL has serious issues with officiating in mine opinion. They have already lost my viewership as I have given up watching any NFL game aside from the Bucs. Wonder how many more fans they are losing or will lose if they don’t get better officiating.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
Tye
Well said. Dead on point. Unfortunately I think we’re locked in with him as long as we’re saddled with Gump.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:30 pm
And I’ve honestly never blamed refs for my Bucs losing since 1999. Hear fans blame the refs alot and it’s usually sounds like excuse for a bad football team.
But that Tennessee game was too much for me. Took three game winning INTs away on 3 separate bad calls. Took a game winning TD away on a bad call. Gave Tennessee a free FG without the benefit of moving the ball, only on bad calls. Ruined a huge drive for us in 4th quarter with a first down 10 yard pentalty on a bad call. Was awful officiating and was all one sided. When a fan can watch a game and come away feeling like it was rigged the league has a major issue that has gone unaddressed to date.
November 16th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Michael Clayton summed it up perfectly…and that is what I see in Bruce. Just like everyone keeps talking draft…etc…etc…and talent. You can have all the talent in the world and lack confidence, drive, and moxie. The later is what will when the games. Bruce is leading by example whether you believe the calls are intentional are not. I love this coaching staff. Swag and gangsta moves is above some that post here but they are building a gangsta, coherent team from the ground up. And it will be a deep playing team!
He maybe OLD but he is a wise OLD wizard…who is developing the team he inherited to be the foundation as he add pieces! Watch and learn!
November 16th, 2019 at 2:43 pm
Yeah, I thought the team came out flat for two plays after it, almost as “wtf, coach”. But he did make a big show at the time (in-game) of yelling at the refs, expressing displeasure, and then throwing the flag back to the benches. So he was at least trying to convey to *everyone* that he felt the refs were f*cking with his team.
November 16th, 2019 at 3:38 pm
I like Michael Clayton but that is the dumbest stuff he’s ever said.
November 16th, 2019 at 4:27 pm
I’m not your typical Bucs fan.
Meaning I don’t expect instant results ( I have no idea why) like most Bucs fans do.
I don’t care if it’s the coach or a rookie RB.
BA certainly gets more than a 1/2 season from me to improve this team.
Reload or rebuild. No matter what he says. Gets more than 1/2 season.
Schiano got 1 season (after going 7-9 rookie HC) and 4 games before a billboard was erected to Fire Schiano and that to me is sad.
November 16th, 2019 at 5:16 pm
I don’t like Michael Clayton but that is the smartest stuff he’s ever said.
BA did that because he wanted to show his team that he had their back.
Would that work on the road……….NO!
With a home crowd roaring and the Jumbotron showing everyone in the stands how the refs screwed them. The refs had no where to hide.
Did that win the game on the last play where there was no flag or review? You bet it did!
The NFL is Risky Business and sometimes BA like Tom Cruise. just has to say “WTF!”
November 16th, 2019 at 6:28 pm
I definitely think he threw the challenge flag on purpose knowing he didn’t have a challenge but backing up his team and calling the refs out on yet another bad call. It’s interesting when you compare the same exact move made by Marvin Lewis with the Bengals several years ago with no timeouts and the refs still reviewed the play leading to success for the Bengals. We seem to have a history of shaft city from the refs.
November 16th, 2019 at 6:30 pm
Clayton is right on point. I love Bruce and I think Lefty will continue to improve and Bowles just needs a couple of pieces and this team will be poised as the comeback team next year
November 16th, 2019 at 6:43 pm
So the playas like gangstas? I know Myles Garret does.
November 16th, 2019 at 7:36 pm
Bucs1987…..here, here.
Agreed and would add that I do want to see signs of progression (RoJo, Cappa, DBs). A area that’s lacking right now in mine opinion is mental errors. A few tiny improvements but not enough, yet. I look to see a noticable difference by season end.
GO BUCS!
November 16th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Apparently you guys don’t realize you think like writers and not athletes. You really think these players are wasting time debating that situation like you? Uh no they take coaches at their word until they prove to be liars or just a bad coach like dork koetter. I’ll go with the former players take over the journalist thank you
November 16th, 2019 at 11:09 pm
Tye – appreciate your opinion. However, that’s all that it is. You have exactly zero knowledge of BA’s interaction on a daily working basis with his players.
Not an FSU fan, but Bobby Bowden won a few games in his career not knowing the names of his players. Hah!
In BA I Trust!
November 16th, 2019 at 11:59 pm
As the season has progressed, my opinion on Arians has shifted a bit. He clearly goes into every game with a great game plan, the team is better prepared–particularly defensively–than most anytime the past many seasons.
However, it is also clear he is a bit slow to make in-game adjustments. I think it is clear the man is in the twilight of his career, maybe 5 or so years off of his peak. He is going to need better staff around him, a better OC, and better people to scout talent, otherwise this team will be looking for a new coach in 2021.
November 17th, 2019 at 8:53 am
Michael Clayton is an eeeeediot. Gangsta? Throwing a flag when you don’t have one is gangsta?
How about going for it on 4th and 1 or 4th and 2. You know, like the Cardinals did. THAT was gangsta because they weren’t even on the other side of the 50.