Goodwin: Blame Marpet For The Blown Snap In Tennessee
November 3rd, 2019
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See, this is why Joe devours all things Bucs 24/7.
That snap that hit Jameis Winston in the face last Sunday, which led to a costly turnover? It wasn’t center Ryan Jensen’s fault.
Per Bucs assistant head coach Harold Goodwin, it was on left guard Ali Marpet.
Goodwin said Marpet was trying to communicate to Jensen that Jameis changed the mike linebacker call. But in the process of that communication, Marpet accidentally touched Jensen, and that touching was the signal to snap because the Bucs were playing in a loud, hostile environment. Goodwin laid this all out on Buccaneers Radio and called it a “freak play” with the premature snap.
Jensen took the blame for the bad snap after the game, but that didn’t satisfy the #BlameJameis crowd.
And now we know it should be #BlameAli.
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:58 am
Not sure if all this public blame is a good tactic,
We shall see
The coaches seem to love calling out the players.
I’m sure they are faultless
Best staff in the league
All 46 of em
November 3rd, 2019 at 7:59 am
He’s just a victim of soycumstance…Curley Howard.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:09 am
Nice. This one was fairly obvious it wasn’t on Jamies. While I feel he threw the ball better in this game, I e seen enough of JW to know he can be great for a bit then regress to to total boneheaded actions. His good does not outweigh his bad. I’ll take my chances in a fairly deep QB draft. Or with Brady, or Bridgewater, he’ll at this point I’d like to see what Eli could do with these receivers and tight ends. $85M in a Alia Le cash nest year, two of the best receivers in the game, we will get some serious talent for that kind of Jack.
In BA I Trust!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:10 am
#WinOrFaceBlsmeFromFans
#QBNeedsToPlayConsistent
#MistakesHappen
#LichtCantGMWell
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:10 am
Typo central. Sorry fellow posters.
In BA I Trust!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:14 am
Let’s go Bucs!
Ever since Chucky was fired, outside of 2010, we’ve been waiting and waiting for this team to get its head out of its arse.
It starts today. Wright the ship. No. More. Excuses.
Sucking this hard, for this long is going “full Cleveland”.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:15 am
No it’s Jamies fault some kind of way it’s Jamies fault we just have to figure out a way to make it Jamies fault!!!! Lol lol lol lol
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:19 am
I believe most fans are realistic and understand not all turnovers are on Winston. That being said, most fans also recognize those errors occur with all QBs throughout the league and factor into their turnover numbers as well. As one site put it, even 25 of Winston’s turnovers were legitimately someone else’s fault…..He would still lead the league in turnovers since becoming a pro. The dude is blowing up to a new level with his turnovers when the hope was at a minimum a leveling off. Winston is simply prone to turnovers, he was scouted on this before being drafted, its not some rash of bad luck, its year 5 and its literally getting worse from a statistical standpoint. He is who he is. I used to think there might be a price in which he would be a good enough value that we would entertain keeping him….like $15 million per year, but the product is so bad that i think the Glazers see its simply not going to sell to the fan base anymore.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:19 am
Unless new leadership is hired and Jason is shown the door we will continue to loose. It looks like despite al Winstons failure Jason is bent on bringing him back and that will sea our fate a a Lichts Loosers for many years to come. Dump Jason and dump Winston or just learn to love 4-12
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:26 am
Direct, exact information on what happened and yet Bobby M. still wants to rip the QB. You sir are part of the problem with this team AND fan base. It’s called accountability. For the first time in forever EVERYONE is being held accountable for their mistakes not just the QB. This is the beginning of the turnaround of this franchise as the rest of these players are not going to be able to hide from their mistakes and have it all blamed on one person like the previous coaching regime did. EVERYONE is responsible for doing their job correctly not just the QB. Only then will we be what we can be.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:28 am
Last week I predicted the Bucs to win & I was wrong. Again I’m predicting the Bucs to beat Hawks & big. If I’m wrong again that will be the end of my predictions. I’m sure no one cares. Just sayin.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:29 am
Lol. I thought it said “Godwin” at first and was like damn Chris. That’s harsh.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:31 am
Marpet was probably trying to keep Jameis from throwing another pick!
He didnt- So I view that play as a success!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:33 am
“Now the coaches are throwing the best players under the bus?
How about fixing within the locker room?
I told you guys. This place is a dumpster fire”
Son of OJ Howard
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:34 am
Marpet is the perfect buccaneer man popular but a horrible football player…. marpet gets ragged dolled all game…. low standard bucfan confuses popularity with greatness all the time… marpet like the rest of oline are xfl backups attempting to play a mans game
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:35 am
Also everyday you have these idiots coming on here saying we can’t pay this QB that much money. Well show us a QB throwing for 4,000 yards a year, cause they can’t run the ball at all, and accounts for roughly 80% of offensive output that’s not making big money? With what we have here, every QB is going to make big money cause if they can’t throw for 4,000 plus yards while getting beat to death and having the defense know what’s coming every play we will literally never score a point, cause god forbid we break a tackle or have a long run or return a kick/punt for points, or get a TO that’s gives us a short field. Don’t you people get it what this QB is being asked to do is impossible yet you think he’s the problem. You bring an average QB like Files, Menshew, Allen, Bridgewater or many others it would be a blood bath weekly. The reason we are even in games is Jameis, Evans and Godwin that’s it and YES Jameis is a huge reason we even have a chance to win each week.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:37 am
An old hockey coach used to get after us pretty bgood and one of his favorite sayings was,”You’re giving me reasons when I need results.”
I think that’s how I feel about Jameis… I understand that there are always reasons why Jameis turns the ball over, but at the end of the day the results aren’t there. He’s the starting quarterback, more so than anyone else on the team, it’s his job to deliver results and through four and a half years it’s clear: He can’t.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:42 am
Ndog,
Can you imagine having a rookie QB, on a rookie contract, that turns the ball over less and gets rid of it quicker than dead least in the league?
Just about anyone can turn the ball over less. The bad outweighs the good, and over four plus years the results have been the same. Losing football too many turnovers.
Imagine not paying $27 million (franchise tag) to Jameis and using that money for a DE, CB and OL?
Jameis is not playing well enough to justify the cost to keep him. I’m all for letting him test free agency, if he doesn’t improve drastically and the team wins down the stretch.
Let’s see Jameis whip some ass today! I’m pulling for him, but I also realize he is going to turn the damn ball over more than anyone in the league. It sickens me and you continue to excuse it. Stop making excuses
Turnovers=team losses.
Jameis= turnover machine.
Do the math.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:48 am
I believe the league asked to bucs to save marpets game day uniform from last week they were checkung for signs of metoo violations he was abused so bad….
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:49 am
Well, this is why we have to try and account for mistakes….but usually Ali is $$ so it was a real fluke. The only other “consistent” “flukes” is lefty still being allowed to call plays into turnover machines helmet….
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:51 am
now we’ve come down to defending him game by game? His whole body of work wreaks of turnovers.
102 TD / 92 Turnovers
In time his turnovers will surpass his TD’s
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:53 am
SteveK the objective is to score points not to get rid of the ball quick. Yeah anyone can get rid of the ball quick and not have any TOs but they also wouldn’t score cause we are ALWAYS in 3rd and 9 type situations so that 4 yard check down won’t quite cut it. Then of course we can just punt away to that great defense we have, oh wait when we get the ball back we will be down 7 with just less time left. Yeah that works now let’s come back out and drive the ball 75 yards, cause we have no return game, while going short play after short play after short play cause you know we will not break any tackles, you know we will not have any big runs and of course we won’t have any penalities that make it harder on our selves during this long drive to tie the game up. Don’t you see bro we have actually seem the above scenario hundreds of times how do we get back in the game? By Jameis making some ridiculously great play just like last week where he avoids pressure on 3rd and 15 and throws a dime down the field to Evans for like 40 yards. Then of course we run to more worthless plays then of course Jameis escapes and makes another great throw to Evans for the TD. Then the two point conversion Jameis again makes a perfectly timer throw with perfect placement to tie the game and that bum Permiann is standing out of bounds. How do you not see that, as what I just described happened just last week?!?!?!?!?!?!
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:56 am
Leftwich is holding this team back right now. He never moves Winston around. Other teams move their QB’s out side the pocket a few plays a game. Not Leftwich. Teams know exactly where Winston will be after he finishes his drop. This does not help a bad OL either. Until Leftwich matures as a play caller this offense will struggle with TO’s and sacks.
November 3rd, 2019 at 8:59 am
Marpet is another over rated Buc player low standard fans love. How many years, how many pro bowls, how many all pro teams? 0, as in zero. None, notta. Watch him play, he’s not all that. You all think he’s a cool dude, and that may be true, but he’s nothing more then an average guard who get’s paid like one of the best in the league, but is far from it.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:01 am
Ndog,
Good point Winston made some plays last week.
I also remember the back to back fumbles in London. There are moments of brilliance and moments of absurd blooper real level plays.
I’m just thinking that part of the fumble/turnover issue is holding onto the ball that long. Sure, great plays happen, but then again so do more turnovers than anyone.
We aren’t winning many games without a Jameis either.
I hope we can start winning consistently. It’s about time.
We can’t justify paying Jameis for another year if we can’t win and he continues to turn the ball over at a world record pace.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:16 am
It’s like we have the Three Stooges as an offensive line, Pee Wee Herman running the ball and Groucho Marx as QB with a cigar in one hand and the football in the other. Harpo Marx is in the owners box.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:16 am
Move him back to right guard. Much better on the right side of the line.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:17 am
I’t was Jameis’ fault….he should have caught the ball with his face mask…..
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:21 am
buc up Says:
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:16 am
Move him back to right guard. Much better on the right side of the line.
No the right thing to do is cut your losses and draft men instead of gambling on boys from bum f#$k Egypt university of nobody’s
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:22 am
@Steve K,
Go to YOUTUBE and watch the 1990 NFC Championship game. Joe Montana got whacked from behind by Leonard Marshall and FUMBLED. Listen to John Madden say, “no one was open so he had to take the hit.” No one was blaming Joe Montana.
But here in Buc land it’s Winston fumbled. It’s the same freaking play but one has a different narrative. That’s the issue I have with this fan base. They are intellectually lazy. Tom Brady got blasted in KC about 4 years ago in the ‘On to Cincinnati’ game by his OL play. What happened? The OL played better and the Patriots went onward.
The games where the Bucs OL have played a decent game Winston also has played a decent game aside from maybe the Niners game. You will not win consistently with bad OL play. Simple as that.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:23 am
I nobody coach putting his player under the bus. Let it go Godwin. Truth is JW moves like a sloth I. Trying to recover the damn ball. His typically retard in the headlights look kicker in.
November 3rd, 2019 at 9:29 am
Great. And the Bucs are using a silent count all game in Seattle. Oh ya this is going to go very well I see… SMFH.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:03 am
If Sharp is betting on the Bucs, even with the spread, I’d say their chances are pretty good today.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:05 am
11 turnovers in the last two games.
Panther drives started at the TAM 29, TAM36, TAM8, and TAM17 yard lines.
Titans drives started at the TAM 10, TAM 6, and TAM 36 yard lines.
THREE pick 6’s this year where the defense never even got a chance to get on the field!
tickrdr
AKA “clueless fan”.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:11 am
tickrdr
Bucs have sucked long before jameis and will suck long after he is successful elsewhere…. take away the one year wonders fluke championship and why dont you do some meaningful math about the fact there has been only 6 meaningful wins in 42 year history of this minor league franchise…. this franchise has never won consistently and never will that is the relevant math…..
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:13 am
Tickdr
Accepting reality is key to good heart health….. the only person on earth with less hope than bucfan is taylor swift’s future husband…..
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:29 am
Per NFL.com…. “Winston’s 10 turnovers over his last two games (7 INTs, 3 fumbles lost) are tied for the most giveaways in a two-game span since 1992. Credit Winston for his consistency, too. No matter what level of the field he’s throwing to, he’s getting his INT on. That’s right. He has the second-most INTs on passes of less than 10 air yards (5; Baker Mayfield 8), he’s tied for the most INTs on passes of 10-19 air yards (5; tied with Andy Dalton) and he’s tied for the fourth-most INTs on deep passes with two, per Next Gen Stats.”
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:29 am
Q: When a lineman isn’t set for a full second, what is that penalty called upon snap?
A: I’m not quite sure precisely, but the play should have been called dead and the Bucs given a 5-yard penalty due to Marpet’s movement.
Oh, wait.
No one is talking about this blatant error by the refs.
Joe, how about doing some serious investigative reporting and write an article on the fumble that should never have been a fumble doe to sh!tty refs?!
I’ll be waiting.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:31 am
Someone on here used to say the same thing about Josh Freeman & how he was going to the Super Bowl with another team. We’ll see but nit picking who’s at fault for certain TO’s is really reaching. I can name 30 or 40 times the opposing D dropped balls thrown right to them by Winston so it really averages out.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:36 am
Tom, hang in there. Some day this team will get it right. Just not this year. We MAY win today- -we have beaten better teams with Jameis as QB. Big HOWEVER is that we will lose many games we should won with this QB and GM.
I think Ndog is just trolling the rest of us. He can’t be that blind.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:38 am
DaPostman,
Thanks for breaking down your point! I agree with you regarding a certain narrative being applied after a fumble.
Do you think Jameis is consistent enough to get us to the audios, and then if/when we got there he could string together at least three and maybe four consecutive winning performances?
I have my doubts on his play being consistent enough to get us there, let alone be able to feel off 3/4 games in a row (without a dud) to win a championship.
I see your point, but overall there is just too much losing and way too many turnovers to be good enough to lose in the playoffs.
November 3rd, 2019 at 10:40 am
Ali is good he isn’t great just like the entire o line
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:22 am
Who blamed Jameis for the snap? He didn’t snap it last I checked.
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:31 am
@tmaxcon:
First, I would like to personally thank you for helping me to limit the amount of time that I waste on JBF, since I now ROUTINELY scroll past ALL of your comments, which saves a significant amount of time.
Secondly, since you addressed me personally, the REALITIES of the situation are the game situations that I posted, at least as posted on
pro football reference.com.
Thirdly, nowhere in my post did I mention Jameis Winston, but I certainly have little to no hope while he remains the QB, which by my math is probably for another three to five games, since by then, even the Bucs brass will be ready to move on and let Ryan Griffin finish out the year.
tickrdr
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:36 am
I have long suspected that t-m-a-x-c-o-n is a bot on this site, and every post listing that name ends in moderation. Say it ain’t so?
tickrdr
November 3rd, 2019 at 11:59 am
Dear Goody … There are inside words, and outside words. Rag-dolling your starting LG in the media for something like that is NOT COOL. Use the INSIDE WORDS for that … as in ‘keep that crap in the locker room’.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:07 pm
In moderation for an hour now
tickrdr
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:11 pm
If this is true, after Jameis took the blame, Ali should have spoke up himself
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:16 pm
Dapostman … Leftwich won’t mature as a play-caller because he won’t last here. Personally I see 3 aspects of his job: play design, game planning & play calling. From what I’ve seen so far, he doesn’t excel at any of them. Our OC is the proverbial ‘weak link’ in the chain, and IMO has cost us 3 games so far this season. Instead of adjusting to & compensating for what’s happening on the field, BL is aggravating it.
I’m admittedly not a huge Jameis Winston supporter, but he’s capable of playing MUCH BETTER than what we’re seeing this season. Jameis’ biggest issue IMO is his inconsistency, both from game-to-game and even during games. Long-developing plays are the kiss of death to someone like Jameis … everyone KNOWS that sooner or later, bad things will happen, and then MORE bad things will happen (15 TOs in 3 games kinda demonstrates that?). But Leftwich’s play designs, game-planning & play-calling are MUCH more at fault THIS SEASON than Jameis is. YARDS DON’T WIN GAMES; POINTS DO. And the fact that Bucco Bruce allows this garbage to continue makes him even more responsible for this charade than Bumbling Byron is.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:45 pm
I’m with tickrdr!
Love reading your posts.
LuvMyBucs is also insightful and I believe he’s also seen enough of JW3.
The Bucs Realist called it too.
I see this almost as clearly as Freeman failing for us, albeit for different reasons.
November 3rd, 2019 at 12:57 pm
you ladies are just all butt hurt i am right…. the on-field results prove it year in and year out. having hope in a team with no hope is insanity doc….
November 3rd, 2019 at 1:18 pm
@SteveK:
Thanks, and a hat tip to you, sir!
tickrdr
November 3rd, 2019 at 4:15 pm
SteveK
Agree with you about tickdr….Physicians come from a background of science and facts…tickdr nevers gets out over his skis…that is to say he does not post without the facts.
You’ve been on fire as well this morning Steve.