Suh Talks Bucs Leaders & Omits Jameis
October 30th, 2019
Only a losing organization like the Bucs would ask its starting quarterback to dial back his leadership instincts, ones they adored and treasured when they drafted him and through his first two seasons.
Keep quiet and play your position well, was the message to Jameis Winston when Bucco Bruce Arians arrived. Stop trying to be Superman on the field, and kill the Superman act when you step outside the white lines, Bucs officials echoed.
Who could forget general manager Jason Licht talking on SiriusXM radio this spring and saying he likes the new Jameis, the one who “hasn’t been trying to be the overall team, emotional leader.”
Joe was almost speechless hearing Licht’s remarks. If Bucs officials weren’t big fans of Jameis being the emotional leader of the team around the clock, then why was he the quarterback they drafted? That’s exactly who Jameis was coming out of college and that guy was embraced by Lovie Smith, and Dirk Koetter certainly didn’t try to coach that out of Jameis, per Joe’s knowledge.
Nahh, come in now and change Jameis’ DNA. That’ll work!
It hasn’t.
The Bucs offense is as sloppy as it’s been in years — Joe will have more on that later — and where is Jameis’ leadership?
Ndamukong Suh joined Buccaneers Radio on Monday and was asked about Lavonte David’s fiery postgame address to teammates in the locker room immediately following the Bucs’ loss to the Titans. He also was asked to name leaders on the roster that he noticed when he arrived in Tampa in mid-June.
Suh named David, Carl Nassib and Mike Evans. No Jameis.
“Definitely Lavonte had a huge emotional speech for us after the game, which really came from the heart from my opinion,” Suh said of David’s postgame rant. “And I think it’s important for guys to take that and internalize it and not just see it as something that was a negative aspect but take the good things out of it. Because I think when coaches are yelling at you, you always want to take the negative aspect of it versus finding the little nuggets when [they’re] speaking to you and how to understand and internalize those things and make them be positive.”
Joe’s glad David let it rip to teammates after the Titans game, but Joe suspects it won’t make any significant difference. And Joe is very hot about a new Arians comment that ties to all this, which will be addressed here later today.
Leadership is overrated in the NFL, Joe has often said. It matters, sure, but sometimes people act like leadership can overcome talent. One example is Rondé Barber was part of two Bucs teams that completely collapsed after excellent starts, the 2011 and 2012 clubs. And the latter team was plagued by one of the worst secondaries in NFL history.
What about 2008? The Bucs were 9-3 and loaded with leaders on the roster, yet a stunning collapse was forthcoming, culminating with a home loss to JaMarcus Russell and the Raiders that cost the Bucs a playoff berth and left them at 9-7.
October 30th, 2019 at 6:35 am
a lot of good it did
October 30th, 2019 at 6:37 am
All Arians does is ride that damn golf cart and mess up challenges … does he even care to coach or is he just collecting a check
October 30th, 2019 at 6:38 am
between all those “eating W’s” is a bunch of “I’s” for INT
October 30th, 2019 at 6:40 am
Being a “leader” is earned. Leaders don’t need to talk or give fiery speeches. A leader goes out, puts the work in, and produces at the highest levels at ALL times.
October 30th, 2019 at 6:48 am
What can Winston really say…..he’s got 10 turnovers in two games, who exactly is he holding accountable?
October 30th, 2019 at 6:53 am
Pablo thinks we should trade Jameis for Andy Dalton in the off-season
October 30th, 2019 at 6:56 am
“…a home loss to JaMarcus Russell…”.
That says it all! The genesis of an 11 year (and counting) era!
October 30th, 2019 at 6:59 am
Hey joe can we now change Jameis Winston’s ridiculous name to America’s most INT prime Quarterback, Pro Bowler Alternate Jameis Winston? Anyone else feel the same?
October 30th, 2019 at 7:00 am
omg that photos of jameis
#Deering
October 30th, 2019 at 7:01 am
where is eddie debartolo
October 30th, 2019 at 7:06 am
Winston is as good as gone. Amen.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:07 am
Anything to avoid blaming the QB for his shortcomings.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:20 am
“When is BA going to remove his lovechild Arizona QB coach intern Leftover from playcalling and game planning?
He is unqualified and clueless and turned our top 5 offense into the 1970s Nebraska Cornhuskers
He has no idea what modern offense play design and playcalling is
The instant we unplug overgrown Arnold Drummond headset to JW helmet our team starts winning
Where is the outrage!!
**If Byron Leftwhich is still the OC playcaller after this game vs Seattle, mg Dad, Kobe Faker will comeback posting
And Hell is coming with him”
Son of Wyatt Earp
October 30th, 2019 at 7:24 am
@Joe … “Leadership is overrated in the NFL, Joe has often said. It matters, sure, but sometimes people act like leadership can overcome talent.”
Excellent point Joe, and very true IMO. BUT … the reverse is also true: You can have a very talented team, but without LEADERSHIP it can get mired in the muck & not go anywhere. They BOTH need to exist in a winning TEAM.
And oh ya, so does quality coaching. Talented players operating with strong field leadership who are being directed to do dumb things won’t lead you to the Promised Land. Leadership, talent, coaching … they ALL have to be part of the same winning package.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:28 am
Joe!!!
Holy smokes! “Jameis 1 of 1” could be GM Jason Licht! How funny is that. Watch the segment on barstool. It’s intriguing. I think it’s him!
https://www.barstoolsports.com/viral/oh-boy-we-allegedly-have-another-gm-burner-account-situation-on-our-hands#scrollToComments
October 30th, 2019 at 7:30 am
Joe,
Holy cow! Jason Licht has a burner account and potentially is Jameis 1 of 1. The reason for the stout defense makes sense. Wow.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:35 am
Could be Jamyth’s last game as a Buc stater….
October 30th, 2019 at 7:36 am
JW has been an embarrassment on and off the field since Bucs drafted him. Further, he’s demonstrated numerous time his unwillingness to be coached. All he knows is how to lose. Cant wait to see him not wearing a Bucs uniform.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:37 am
Yeah, looks like JulyJoe1of1 is Licht as well. Who knew?
October 30th, 2019 at 7:41 am
Ndamukong Suh was being kind to Jameis by NOT mentioning him.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:44 am
At this point, he is broken. No confidence. No swag. No fire.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:45 am
“Bucs would ask its starting quarterback to dial back his leadership instincts” when your starting QB’s leadership instincts lead your team to a career 23 wins and 38 losses. Yeah it ain’t the things that management loved about his game in college five, six, seven seasons ago. This is the NFL and that does stand for NOT For Long if you are not able to create Wins as a starting QB in year five of your career.
I don’t care about yards or TD records, or even INT records. I want to have a QB who leads his team good or bad to wins. So yes I can see how trying to change his rah rah rah, and then we just have to get better, I have to get better after game speaches.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:46 am
Russel Wilson has thrown
17 TD’s
&
1 Int
this year
October 30th, 2019 at 7:49 am
Maybe they realized they were wrong about his leadership skills after a few years. I’ve made that same transition. We are told how great his leadership was. He had notebooks filled with how to be a good leader. He trained for it his whole life. Few years later you can see he’s not a natural leader. It was a charade that was easy to pull off in college. Then he gets around full ass grown alphas and they didn’t buy his Saturday morning cartoon / Nickelodeon leadership style.
So he’s not natural but has trained his whole life for it and the truth comes out in the big leagues. Reminds me of Todd Marinovich in a way.
#RealRecognizeReal
October 30th, 2019 at 7:52 am
A Winston apologist said Carson Palmer sucked initially in Bruce Arians system for cardinals
What are you talking about ?
He was 10-6 in first season
In first 3 season (cause of injury )Carson Palmer was 29-9?
The is the first time , arians has lost 3 games in a row. That’s very telling. But yah , he should keep ripping everyone else but #3
The guy who has more turnovers then any other QB since 2015
And is leading the league with 18 already
But yah. Jameis is just unlucky. Everyone else to blame.
What a clown show
October 30th, 2019 at 7:56 am
I think what BA noticed in all the film he studied of the Bucs when he was hired, he saw Jameis pumping up the team to play and then with his Adrenalin flowing at the start of the game he was overthrowing his receivers and doing threes and outs. BA wanted him to come out calm and on target and go down and score a TD right away and get ahead and keep piling it on. When we played the Rams that was exactly how Jameis approached it and scored 54 points and whipped the Rams. So that strategy worked then. Jameis is extremely emotional and when he starts throwing interceptions he gets upset and often cannot put it behind him and that is what triggers his disastrous games. In the fourth quarter when the defenses drop into the Tampa two suddenly Jameis gets into rhythm and starts clicking and runs up the big yardage but rarely does he ever win in that situation. That is when the other team starts running to drain the clock and wears down our defense to the point the other team steamrolls our defense. Now if Jameis attacks the Seahawks and gets a lead and gets some protection from his OL and his running game is clicking, the Bucs can beat the Seahawks. We will have JPP and Barret putting real pressure on their QB too. But BA just needs to call the plays and whisper in Jameis’ helmet and keep him cool and focused. In short yardage get Vea at FB and Our Offense will roll, and suddenly Jameis will score in the red zone too.
October 30th, 2019 at 7:58 am
Can you Joe’s add your names when you release an article. One of you have gotten really whiny, and if I could see your name, I could same myself time and just skip over your articles. Thanks
October 30th, 2019 at 7:58 am
If Licht has a burner that’s damning. Defending his draft pick explains motive and the interview kind of sounds like him. Just wow. How much time is wasted on a burner of true? Just when I think we can’t get any worse, something like this comes out. I hope Joe writes about it. So damn intriguing.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:02 am
Damn you guys are pathetic, Joe’s for the type of articles they write and tout idiots treating em like a prophet. Damn dumb fans looking for anything to go after anyone associated with that logo because BA couldn’t charge a decade of losing in half a season. Honestly dont Getty why you calls yourselves fans, grumpy old men maybe but you’re definitely fans eating the pathetic negativity oozing from this site and they swear they aren’t writing negative articles lol
October 30th, 2019 at 8:07 am
SteveK, that is a pretty good way to get fired in addition to being a crappy GM, Im glad jamesis10f1 never blocked me, havent checked yet if he is still active guessing its closed down…..time to start over….and licht is doing a disservice to the franchise fans and town by not building a winning team. You have had 5-6 trade able assets the past 2 years and you sit on them and then get nothing its malpractice to the organization and fans
October 30th, 2019 at 8:11 am
Justafan
No doubt . There are 2 joez
Logical joe who we all know and respect
Obsezzed joe who is the one behind his man crush after the Pitt FSU game
October 30th, 2019 at 8:11 am
I hope Joe offers his two cents on the Licht Jameis1of1 burner saga!
October 30th, 2019 at 8:12 am
Bird,
In Joes defense he was at the Pitt game where Jameis’ magical freshman year began. But the fact is Jameis sucks and is a turnover machine. Can’t be fixed. He’s got to go!
October 30th, 2019 at 8:28 am
After watching Winston eat “W’s” I had zero problems with him being less vocal. That video is still incredibly hard to watch. Very cringe-worthy, leadership doesn’t mean be the loudest idiot in the room. It is also hard to lead when you make as many mistakes as Winston does. At FSU they played lesser teams so mistakes weren’t as magnified as they are in the NFL. Even one pick or fumble can cost you a game in the pros and that is the difference.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:29 am
Pewter power and idiotic losers like him or her who accept and defend losing is what is wrong with the team. Your dumb support of the crap that the Glazers are selling us is a shame. May God have mercy on your soul loser.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:30 am
Gonna be a LONG quiet plane ride home…..
October 30th, 2019 at 8:34 am
Change his DNA? From what someone who steals, Lies, and cheats? That would be a good thing. Change his maturity from eating W’s and dancing around like an A$$ clown? Probably a good idea! Trying to stabilize his erratic mental state because he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off at the beginning of games? That would be nice! Work on his long throw accuracy? Work on his short throw touch on the ball? 95MPH doesn’t work from 5 yards away! Leadership is earned and he HAS NOT earned anything because of his erratic way of doing everything.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:35 am
I think Jameis took himself out of the leadership role when he ate a W
October 30th, 2019 at 8:37 am
Dusthy Rhodes, nice to speak up, tell us who in the Buc locker room you would drop the bionic elbow on if possible (sans Gordon of course)?????…. Dude we need to dial this Buc ball back to 1976 ala your time bi guy when I was 11 and the Bucs going 0 for ever was okay because that is where Buc ball is now… Would it be VH3, Jameis, BA himself or Licht when he drunkenly wanders in the locker room thinking they actually won… Speak up big guy, we love the opinion of a real Tampa icon over some of the trolls who have taken over Joe’s site!
October 30th, 2019 at 8:44 am
BA can’t change a decade of losing in half a season isn’t a problem huh Pewter Power? Well how has he improved the team at all? They are worse than last season other than run defense. He has weakened the roster and is making as many dumb mistakes as a coach as the players on the field are making. Case in point.
Players are unprepared, poor game management such as the back to back time out attempt leading to a penalty, awful play calling, continued poor evaluation of talent, blaming position groups for failure and not holding Winston responsible for so many mistakes, not benching Winston when he is playing so poorly in favor of RG4 so we can determine if he can win as a starting QB and for continuing to do everything the same without making adjustments or changes.
You see idiot, it doesn’t matter if he has 5 seasons teamed up with Jason Licht, the results will not change but perhapscontinued losing is exactly what the Glazers, Licht and idiots like you deserve.
October 30th, 2019 at 8:57 am
How can you be a leader when your first throw of the first play of a game is an interception? Leadership starts at the top. Our top is meathead Licht, BS BA, and of course Moe, Larry, and Curley Glazer. Please those who want to blame Leftwich for all our offensive misery get a clue. This is Bruce Arains offense, his playbook. He chose these players, he drew up this offense. You act like he has nothing to do with play calling during the game. It doesn’t matter who calls the plays if the plays suck!
October 30th, 2019 at 8:59 am
The eating a W was horrifying. Not any level of football would that be a inspiring speech.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:03 am
There is leadership, and then there is leadership. Problem is unless you are in that room you don’t know what KIND of leadership he provides? Is it over the top religious (nothing wrong with that depending on the audience). Is it rah rah childish stuff that men feel insulted by? Is it Over the Top? Then it isn’t leadership. Sometimes leadership is as much about WHO you are trying to lead as blabbing all over everyone. Leaders get it. And a lot of times leaders aren’t exactly focusing on being leaders, they just are. Reading between the lines I don’t imagine Jameis’s leadership matured to meet the audience. But WTF do I know? Just taking wild guesses since all I have to look forward to is hoping we don’t sink too low in the draft…not that we can draft…
October 30th, 2019 at 9:14 am
This thing is about two months away from being blown up. Time to start from scratch. Glazers need to be looking not for a head coach, but for a GM. Then let him hire his head coach, scouts, etc.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:17 am
When the plane lands at TPA early Monday morning Jameis will not be the starting Bucs QB…
October 30th, 2019 at 9:21 am
FortMyersDave,
Lets get loothey goothey and freeky deakey, right now. Bionic Elbows on Licht and BA, Bionic elbow on VH3, I woulda traded suh, VH3, JPP to That dirty tricky dicky slaters team and then, have to start over. If jameis takes 15 mil/year stick with him and get a gm that builds a defense and a running team and play defense, the bucs have done nothing since licht has been here to build a loothey goothey NWA world championship squad that gordon solie would be proud of….i have dined with kings and queens and ate in the ditch with a can of beans…bottom line GET RID OF LICHT or jameis10f1
October 30th, 2019 at 9:22 am
When you ain’t got $hit, you ain’t got $hit – Bruce Arians 9:30AM October 30, 2020
October 30th, 2019 at 9:29 am
Things are a lot different when you get to the NFL and play grown man football. They don’t go for all of that Rah Rah crap that the college kids do.
Best thing Winston can do is keep his mouth shut and work hard on his game.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:30 am
Whoever wrote the Jameis 1 if 1 account info is dead wrong..Jason’s account is verified..that one isn’t and it has an “R” in the name…
But this Jameis 1 of 1 is nothing but an investor…he has spent THOUSANDS of dollars in Jameis rookie cards etc. He has his house on the line with Jameis being a bust..
Do some research on line on this guy…
October 30th, 2019 at 9:33 am
You don’t have credibility as a “leader” when you’re part of the problem.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:34 am
the only aspect of football that JW is a leader in is TO’s…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
October 30th, 2019 at 9:36 am
WeeManOfScots,
Jason Licht’s verified Twitter is @jasonrlicht.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:37 am
Fans are acting like this is all on coaching. At some point the players especially the one’s who have been here take full responsibility. This Keystone COP thing has been going on since Gruden left. That’s a Decade of piss poor play so Yes you can blame the coaching for some of it but the fact is there is some sad mentally weak players on this team. These guys have been making silly mistakes for a very long time now.
October 30th, 2019 at 9:48 am
Bird, the cards started 3-4 and he had 16 ints the first 7 games. Yea he was wayyyy better than jameis lol finished 24-22 td/nit ratio
October 30th, 2019 at 9:49 am
Int *
October 30th, 2019 at 9:50 am
Oh also it was his 10th! Year in the league
October 30th, 2019 at 9:57 am
@Rayjay1122
You see idiot, it doesn’t matter if he has 5 seasons teamed up with Jason Licht, the results will not change but perhapscontinued losing is exactly what the Glazers, Licht and idiots like you deserve.
Really are you a prophet also? It doesnt matter? Let’s see your resume and how many teams you’ve coached or been the general manager of!!! You cam do all you want in the offseason but you never know what guys are made of until they are in real game situations and he said that training camp. You sound like an idiot blaming the coaches after half a season, I guess you were one of those idiots that preferred the team go the lovie route, get rid of a bunch of guys without seeing what type of players were already here. How the hell does holding or getting straight up whipped at the line of scrimmage have to do with coaching? I’m not even getting into winston because apparently the entire fanbase knows this offense better than the guy who created it. If you think winston will be benched for ryan griffin then that’s on you to deal with the disappointment, I prefer he play out the season so there is a clear answer to move on or franchise or whatever, no one really cares what you think you know 99% less than anyone working for the glazers.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:01 am
Jameis1of1 WROTE A BOOK about Jameis, holy smokes. Joe, thoughts here?
It’s all starting to make sense now.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:08 am
WInston is the LEADER…IN TURNOVERS!!!!!
BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Dump this trash loser. He stinks out loud.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:09 am
Je only spoke of defense. Of course he omitted Jameis. Sheesh.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:22 am
I did not know Mike Evens played defense.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:56 am
It’s because Winston stinks and his teammates know it.
October 30th, 2019 at 10:59 am
Pewter Power says: ” how does holding or straight up getting whooped at the line of scrimmage have to do with coaching?
Well Pewter, your not knowing the answer to that question confirms your level of intelligence. Who has the power to set the team depth chart? Answer: Arians.
Who has veto power over all decisions and play calling? Answer: Arians
Who has had input and endorsed the current roster? Yeah, again the answer is Arians.
The Glazers are very smart business men and obviously very successful money makers however, they are come he imbeciles when it comes to football. Nobody, not even you is 99% less intelligent than the morons that the Glazers have hired.
I understand wanting to support the Bucs. Trust me, I want them to be winners as much as anyone but the team hasbeen hijacked by idiot owners. Why did they fire Gruden? Because he has an ego? Because some belly aching players didn’t lime him? Whatever the reason, it was dumb and the beginning of the hijacking. He was a winning coach. So, we stick with losers like Licht and Winston but move on from winners? Yeah, they really know what they are doing huh. SMH
October 30th, 2019 at 11:00 am
Freaking auto correct…..
October 30th, 2019 at 11:39 am
Anybody seen the missing (10-6) NOSBOS? I worry for him.
Such high hopes. (Sigh)
October 30th, 2019 at 11:56 am
• Rape Allegations.
• “**** her in the *****!”
• Turnovers at a historic rate.
• Inability to put the team on his back.
• Horrific “Eating W’s!” Speech.
• Getting suspended for four games for alleged Uber driver groping.
• Getting benched for poor play.
• Coming off the sidelines (while benched) to get in Lattimore’s face causing Evans to defend him and then getting suspended.
• More turnovers
• More inability to put the team on his back.
Men don’t follow other men with actions like the above.
He’s no leader, he’s no leader at all!
“Poor soul, he was just too high strung” – Doc
We’ll see a real leader at QB on Sunday and his last name is Wilson. He seized leadership by inspiring play, winning games, and being a quality person off the field.
#lichtmyb**ls
#worstGMinprosports
October 30th, 2019 at 11:58 am
• Assault Allegations and Civil lawsuit.
• “**** her in the *****!”
• Turnovers at a historic rate.
• Inability to put the team on his back.
• Horrific “Eating W’s!” Speech.
• Getting suspended for four games for alleged Uber driver groping.
• Getting benched for poor play.
• Coming off the sidelines (while benched) to get in Lattimore’s face causing Evans to defend him and then getting suspended.
• More turnovers
• More inability to put the team on his back.
Men don’t follow other men with actions like the above.
He’s no leader, he’s no leader at all!
“Poor soul, he was just too high strung” – Doc
We’ll see a real leader at QB on Sunday and his last name is Wilson. He seized leadership by inspiring play, winning games, and being a quality person off the field.
#lichtmyb**ls
#worstGMinprosports
October 30th, 2019 at 12:03 pm
The Glaziers need to fire Licht immediately and remove Arians golf cart privileges until his behavior improves.
October 30th, 2019 at 12:07 pm
How can someone who turns the ball over at an alarming rate, be a leader? Winston may have the personality of a leader, but the results don’t back it up.
October 30th, 2019 at 12:19 pm
Even if he included Jameis in the leadership talk, the question then is, well what’s he even leading us to? Hint, it’s not winning
October 30th, 2019 at 12:33 pm
Elliot, I agree with your assessment of Wilson. I don’t think people are against following jameis but I also don’t think he knows how to be a good leader yet. He says the right things in his press conferences and seems to have matured this season/since the benching but what really needs to happen is he needs to get screwed by bad blocking and bad routes and then still find a way to pull out a win. I remember that run on 4th and like 16 against the falcons in 3015 I think it was. He broke tackles and forced his way to a first down. That’s still in him and that’s when I was sold on him. That play was all heart
October 30th, 2019 at 12:34 pm
2015*
October 30th, 2019 at 12:52 pm
LargoBuc: Agree with you 100%. To add to that if the Glazer’s don’t fire Loser Licht then they should sell the team, since winning is not a priority with them.
October 30th, 2019 at 1:11 pm
Bucsfanman
Truer words have never been spoken bredren.
October 30th, 2019 at 1:17 pm
Joe, you make a very interesting point about leadership being overrated at the NFL level…I can remember a time when this team was adrift and onboarded an unheralded, but tough-as-nails FA linebacker from the Steelers who singlehandedly began to change the culture inside OBP by rooting out serial loafers, losers and turds by personally holding them accountable. Hardy Nickerson wasn’t fun loving. He was a complete and total @ss kicker who laid the foundation for a whole generation of youngsters, who eventually took up his charge.
Jameis’ brand of leadership isn’t the same as Hardy’s (see, ‘W, who wants to eat a’)…nor did he ever establish the necessary professional bona fides to carry weight in the locker-room (beyond his draft status). His Uber antics sure didn’t help.
That being said, I wonder if this generation of player is simply too self-absorbed to respond to Hardy, or Sapp’s brand of locker-room accountability. It sure seems like guys like JPP are trying to get through, but its just not working. The bulk of these guys just don’t seem to HATE LOSING as much as they hate not getting individual social media ‘likes’…
As
October 30th, 2019 at 2:15 pm
It does not help that he is a liar, shoplifter, womanizer, homophobic, uneducated arsehole that also thinks he is Gods gift to the world.
October 30th, 2019 at 4:23 pm
Leadership occurs via osmosis. You don’t need to draw attention yourself to lead, great leaders lead by example people pay attention to that and it raises them up in their performance up. Jameis does not have the maturity or the ability to lead by example
October 30th, 2019 at 4:28 pm
Read the signs…..it is plain as day that Jameis has not improved past his second year here. The post game mantra never changes…..I just gotta get better is not the answer because he peaked 3 years ago. Don’t know what he’s got on somebody but it seems to be the only explanation for keeping him around.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:07 pm
Frank Pillow,
Couldn’t have said it better! Would Ray Lewis tolerate the slackers on this team especially the ones being paid to be leaders? Nickerson is still one of my all time favorites for changing the long time losing culture. Now we need someone to change the soft AND losing culture.
October 30th, 2019 at 5:35 pm
Let’s go Jameis!!! You got these haters HOT!
October 30th, 2019 at 6:33 pm
I hope Jameis does improve……..somewhere else
October 30th, 2019 at 6:44 pm
It is simple really. After the Uber incident and suspension, with a further divided fan base, the Bucs don’t see him as the face of their franchise. He had much work to do to come to it, but with the season half gone, acts more mature but his play continues to be very erratic. So makes no sense to prop him up as a leader anymore. That is all on him.
October 31st, 2019 at 4:57 am
Man I can’t wait for Jamies to leave. And when he does leave maybe this fan base will see what wins championships. Because all this talk about Jamies is the reason why we lose is a lie and a false narrative by the national media. Then when we go 3 and 13 next year just maybe you guys will be happy as long as Jamies is gone. Ain’t no rookie quarterback or even a veteran is going to help this team win. We don’t run the ball or play defense and all you guys see is Jamies.
October 31st, 2019 at 5:06 am
Frank you named all defensive players and I agree with you. Until we get back to a defensive type of team we ain’t going to win nothing. Defense wins championships not quarterbacks. Go ask the 49ers , the Patriots both or undefeated and both has great defense and a good running game and all you guys care about is quarterback. Lol lol lol
October 31st, 2019 at 7:25 am
So Arians wanted Shame Us to dial back the phony rah, rah BS. Probably because his teammates were ready to choke him out. Nothing like throwing a 3rd pick and then trying to get the team amped up for the 4th pick. What a tool!