Predicting Jameis’ End
October 27th, 2019
It’s over, says former Bucs TE.
A former Bucs player employed by the Buccaneers Radio Network has predicted Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht this week will approach Team Glazer asking to obtain a new quarterback in the offseason.
“I can assure you management, Jason Licht, is going in [to One Buc Palace this week] and saying, “You have to find me a new quarterback,” said former Bucs tight end John Gilmore, who does a postgame show on the Buccaneers Radio Network.
Of course, it is Licht who will have to find a quarterback, not the ownership family, but point taken.
And while Jameis was hardly the lone reason the Bucs lost today, he didn’t help a whole lot and his four turnovers has convinced Gilmore enough is enough.
“I have no more passes to give Jameis Winston,” Gilmore said, while acknowledging Jameis did make some good plays. “I have lost count [of Jameis’ turnovers]. I’m tired of giving him breaks. When all of these turnovers happen and Jameis is connected.”
Gilmore’s cohost, Ronnie “Night Train” Lane, mentioned that Brett Farve and Peyton Manning were also turnover machines early in their careers. Gilmore wouldn’t have it.
“They found ways to win games,” Gilmore said.
Later when Lane was reading the scores of games and mentioned the Seahawks winning, Gilmore sarcastically asked how many interceptions Russell Wilson had.
“It’s not rocket science,” Gilmore said.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:18 pm
Maybe franchise to ease in the new QB, but other than that, yeah, the end!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:19 pm
Why would you trust Licht to find the new guy?
October 27th, 2019 at 5:19 pm
The loss was totally on Jameis ” meaningless stats ” Winston America’s QB
No one else.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:19 pm
You are who the film says you are.
JW throws picks when it’s on him.
America’s Pro Bowlers can’t handle the pressure
October 27th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
Gilmore a gas bag
Winston might have blame
But think about this Mike Evans was torching the DBs
Our OC LOST the game
Another had been with an opinion
October 27th, 2019 at 5:21 pm
Tank for Burrow or Herbert!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
The problem is that LICHT will be in charge of finding the new QB.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
I’m riding with jameis man. The thought of a rookie
QB makes me sick.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Justin Herbert
Jacob Eason
Joe Burrow
Jake Fromm
That’s my order and Burrow is still rising. Still, get a veteran QB for them to learn behind on the bench.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Nano 107
Who were you just 30 minutes ago ?
Be honest and don’t be scared to change your poster name
Don’t run. Don’t hide.
I have a pretty good idea of who you are
October 27th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Who is Gilmore ? Was he successful ?
3rd qtr 4and inches. We punt. We lost the game. Qb sneak we win. The last 4th down. A rb draw ?
October 27th, 2019 at 5:24 pm
How many opportunities did Jameis have to win that game ?
Gilmore is right. Winners win , even with mistakes
The titans are a lousy team and tried to give the game away
October 27th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
It’s maddening to watch this guy!
Bottom line: Do you hitch your wagon to a QB who’s best trait is that he makes plays SOMETIMES?
You cannot win in this league turning the ball over again and again. PERIOD!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
Oh my goodness everyone is brainwashed. HOW CAN THIS SITE KEEP SAYING THE QB HAD 4 TOs TODAY WHEN TWO WERE CLEARLY NOT ON HIM AND THE OTHER TWO THE HEAD COACH JUST SAID THEY WERE WRONG ROUTES?
October 27th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
That would take King Kong size balls to say/ask that of the G’Boyz…..hope they are installing a gator pit and trap door in front of their desk if Jason Lite dares utter that non sense….Jason is responsible for still playing not yanking Jamyth’s chain
October 27th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
It’s a joke and a disgrace when anyone compares Jay-Miss to Favre and Manning. Favre was an MVP by his 5th season and Manning by his 6th.
Compare WinsTOn to his contemporaries. He is BELOW AVERAGE!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:25 pm
What’s the TD to Turnover ratio at now? 102 to 90? I myself have lost count.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:27 pm
This argument that Favre and Manning were turnover machines and became prolific is absurd. In hindsight you can analyze and slice it any way you want. But, as a football decision in the here and now, there’s nothing to show anyone that Intston can even be mentioned in the same sentence as those guys. You can’t hope to win week in and week out thinking he’s going to get it together. Unfortunately he’s a #1 draft pick and he’s not playing like one. If the Titans can win with another qb south the same crappy team, so can we.
Maybe he will succeed somewhere else. But, his time here is waning. Its just time to send a message to everyone that we have higher expectations. The longer we delay, the harder it’ll be to dig out of the laughing stock of the NFL.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:27 pm
I love how you people think a new QB will make that snap on time, the LT not get beat to give up a fumble, make the WRs run the correct routes, make the defense not give up one BUT two 4th quarter drives to lose the game. How does a new QB solve those things?
October 27th, 2019 at 5:28 pm
This is not a game to judge anybody on the Bucs. Evans dropped points, Winston made a few unacceptable decisions, White looked lost out there, Dare was playing like a stiff……..None of that matters because all of them players overcame it and made plays to help us win the game. And we did enough to win.
We got cheated is all. We didn’t lose today. A consider this game a con. Don’t accept the results. Pleased with the Bucs performance overall today.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:29 pm
102 Tds
And
92 turnovers
October 27th, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Ndog
I love how you blame 92 turnovers on everyone else
October 27th, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Let’s face it…..Jameis hasn’t improved…..he’s in his 5th year and no improvement over his rookie year…..sad, very sad….but true….time to move on.
Jason to Glazers……give me a new QB….a RB….a LT & RT……a few CBs…..the good news….I think we’ve finally got a kicker…..
October 27th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
I hate to break it to you guys but jw is going nowhere
October 27th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
Somebody remind me how long it takes a QB to “master” Bruce Arians system, like you’re learning Multivariable Calculus and Differential Equations for the first time. What was Carson Palmer? 6 games?
October 27th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
Hey NDog:
Jameis Winston now has 6 career games with 4+ giveaways (most such games by any QB since 2015).
October 27th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
It’s a good thing Jameis’s son is too young to understand
October 27th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
you have a QB in RG, let him finish out the season
October 27th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
I love Ronnie Lane, but he is the glass is half full guy. John Gilmore gets it
-Gilmore’s cohost, Ronnie “Night Train” Lane, mentioned that Brett Farve and Peyton Manning were also turnover machines early in their careers. Gilmore wouldn’t have it.
“They found ways to win games,” Gilmore said.
Well said John and good reporting Joe.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
92 turnovers
October 27th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Petty, Carson threw 24 td 22int first year with ba
October 27th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
Jameis will win a Superbowl with another team.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm
Mike Evans is trash. He continues to get a pass, why didn’t John Gilmore say something about that one drop….sarcasm.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm
92 turnovers in 4 and 1/2 season almost.
That’s hard work
Not easy to do
Just really unlucky I think …must be it…just bad luck.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm
James Walker Says:
October 27th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
Jameis will win a Superbowl with another team.
.
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Jameis will be a ticket taker at the Canton NFL HOF
October 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm
Jameis just doesn’t have what it takes to be a starting QB in this league. I wish him the best of luck in baseball.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:35 pm
do not draft a QB before round 10. build the trenches.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:36 pm
I really hate it how wINTston gets compared to Brett Farve as a “gunslinger”.
Newsflash: While Gunslingers have Turnovers, they makeup for it with way more TOUCHDOWNS! They don’t have a 102:92 ratio. That is just a bad QB, not a “Gunslinger”. They also have wins, something wINTston doesn’t have.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:38 pm
Josh Allen 7 sacks in 8 games
October 27th, 2019 at 5:38 pm
JAmes Walker
Did a bolt of lightning just strike you in the middle of your house ?
Thanks for the laughs man
October 27th, 2019 at 5:38 pm
After the Bucs scored with 11 min left in 3rd quarter to take the lead, here is Jameis’ production the rest of the game:
5 possessions:
7-17. 78 yds sack, fumble, interception, 1-20 yd scramble for 1st down
Inconsistent Loser
October 27th, 2019 at 5:41 pm
I don’t even trust Jason Licht with picking up lunch
October 27th, 2019 at 5:42 pm
Ndog cracks me up. He thinks Winston was flawless. One good thing is that he’ll be a fan of the Patriots next year since we know they’re going to sign Winston as Brady’s replacement.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:44 pm
All of you who still are supporting Winston are so ignorant that I won’t even rip into you all. I just feel sorry for your mental state.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:50 pm
We need to address the OL, pass rush and secondary. I would not rely on a rookie QB. Go find a serviceable veteran QB like Teddy Bridgewater has been for the Saints. A rookie QB will fail because there are so many holes in this roster.
I would focus on the trenches. The blocking is bad and we have zero depth. Better OL play will help the running game and I think RoJo is serviceable behind an improved OL. Also we need to look for another pass rusher to help the secondary which is also in need of a major upgrade.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:51 pm
How many turnovers would you tolerate from a QB getting paid 30 mil? What I would tolerate is already passed.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:53 pm
Petty. ain’t no quarterback is going to be successful on this team until we get a good running game. And he definitely ain’t going to learn anything being on the bench. That’s a national media brainwash tool for people that don’t know nothing about football . That’s what they want you to think. But see I know football and again the 49ers are being successful cause they have been building their defense for a least 3 or 4 years. Then they went got some running backs that can run the ball. Jimmy G is not the reason why they are wining. They are not asking him to throw 40 times a game they don’t care about how many yards he throws or touchdown passes he has they care about winning. People on this site care more about how many yards a quarterback has how many touchdown passes he has more than about winning. You guys care about quarterback to much. I care about the team!!!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:53 pm
NDog, you are wasting your time. If you haven’t figured out that this is one of the stupidest fan bases in all of sports then I can’t help you. You know as well as I do that Winston has to win the game because the rest of these guys aren’t going to. It’s as simple as that. The Buc fans get mad because Winston didn’t throw a TD to himself. Do you think if Edelman doesn’t make that catch the Pats would have beaten the Falcons? Maybe, maybe not but Tom Brady is the greatest. Most Americans are stupid. That’s why Jonathan Gruber sold them on Obamacare then came out and said we had to because Americans are stupid. It is what it is. Just enjoy the ride when Winston comes back to Tampa in a different uni and shoves it up their a…
October 27th, 2019 at 5:55 pm
There are a bucketful of good QBs this year and Licht has already shown that he can’t be trusted to use a first pick properly.
Start Griffin from here on out and see what makes him the first QB the Bucs have extended a contract for. Most first round QBs flop because they think they are the chosen one. Build the team up and find a talented game manager in the third or fourth round.
If Griffin can’t make it, which I still doubt, find a free agent QB after the season is over to groom the draftee.
October 27th, 2019 at 5:57 pm
I questioned why Bruce did not play the starters more in the pre-season. New systems and young players that needed to learn during games that do not count. Not playing Winston much was a big mistake!
October 27th, 2019 at 5:59 pm
I just saw the highlights on NFL Gameday Live and the announcers are laughing about JWs performance.
Jameis Winston now has 6 career games with 4+ giveaways (most such games by any QB since 2015).
October 27th, 2019 at 6:00 pm
It’s time to take Jameis out back and put one in his head…that dog just ain’t gonna hunt.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:00 pm
Ndoggie: so what’s the excuse for this week? We’ve heard the blame being placed on the defense, the o line, the lack of run game… is it the receivers this week? Just asking because I’m keeping a running tally of your lame excuses.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
While I agree we may need to move on from JW…that doesn’t fix:
Wr not getting their feet down when wide open in the end zone.
Center snapping the ball to early
Motion WR running into the RB inside the 5
CB that can’t cover
Team that can’t run the ball at ALL
So we move on and Licht is the guy that’s going to turn this around.
If the Bucs do want to move on from JW – we need to cut him now…
I fear for any rookie QB that plays for the Bucs next year…not a good team to play for and our fans will expect them to be a HOMer by week 4
October 27th, 2019 at 6:03 pm
Dapostman
Remember when you said “Jameis is playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers “
You are one funny Nole fan
October 27th, 2019 at 6:04 pm
Arians is right I saw guys quit or stop on their routes. Have you all ever thought of the idea that Jameis throws to a spot trusting his guy will be there? Go look at every interception he has thrown and I would say at least 60% of them are do to this reason alone. So why is that?
October 27th, 2019 at 6:06 pm
Bruce Arians continuing to make excuses for Winston is exhausting , demoralizing and downright sad. Every QB has to deal with WRs running the wrong routes, offensive lineman giving up strip sacks, drops , etc. Just quit with the damn excuses.
Jameis Winston leads the league in turnovers since 2015. Were they all on him ? No , they weren’t . But the same thing could be said for pretty much every other QB who has ever played the game. Jameis isn’t a consistently good thrower and not a good decision maker . You don’t want one of those traits in your franchise QB . Jameis has both traits.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:09 pm
Bruce Arians continuing to make excuses for Winston is exhausting , demoralizing and downright sad. Every QB has to deal with WRs running the wrong routes, offensive lineman giving up strip sacks, drops , etc. Just quit with the damn excuses.
Jameis Winston leads the league in turnovers since 2015. Were they all on him ? No , they weren’t . But the same thing could be said for pretty much every other QB who has ever played the game. Jameis isn’t a consistently good thrower and not a good decision maker . You don’t want one of those traits in your franchise QB . Jameis has both traits.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:14 pm
The Flat Jameis-ers out in full force to try and defend their hero from yet another pathetic performance.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:17 pm
I can’t wait till Jameis is on ANY other team (if the Bucs don’t trade him) he will get to choose what winning franchise he goes to. The Bucs will stil lose in embarrassing fashion and I will be here to laugh about it. Lmao (lol) lulz!!!
October 27th, 2019 at 6:19 pm
Oneilbucs,
For the love of God, please stop writing “don’t know nothing about football…” that is a DOUBLE NEGATIVE in grammar and makes no sense. The proper grammar is “don’t know anything about football.”
Thank you for your cooperation. Please proceed with trying to tell other Bucs fans how they aren’t as smart as you are.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:20 pm
SilverBuc,
If the Bucs get rid of Jameis the odds are very high he may never take another NFL snap unless he goes to a team where the starter gets hurt.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:22 pm
I can’t wait until Jameis is bringing another franchise down into the pit of hell like he has the Bucs. Anyone who thinks this guy will become good with another franchise is living in a fantasy world.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:23 pm
The Flat Jameis-ers Club:
NDog
Dapostman
SilverBuc
87’s many handles
Oneilbucs
July Joe
October 27th, 2019 at 6:31 pm
It wouldn’t matter if the coach said the receivers screwed up, that ray Jason Licht would throw Jameis under the bus to continue his career
October 27th, 2019 at 6:32 pm
Rat
October 27th, 2019 at 6:39 pm
Yes Bird, I remember. That was one of my better lines. Not as good as the Bandit finger banging himself after every Winston turnover but a good one none the less.
October 27th, 2019 at 6:55 pm
Reboot the whole franchise
October 27th, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Watch one of Jameis games from his first year and then look at one this year. It’s five years and there is no improvement people. This has become a crap show with all of the mistakes that he makes. I’ve been a season ticket holder since 1997. I’m selling my remaining seats this year and not renewing next year. I have put my money where my mouth is unlike most of the blowhards here. Time for me to bail.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Dapostman is going to need a bigger box of tissues.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:04 pm
Sumosam,
I’m hear ya. I’ve spent a small fortune on Bucs tickets and refuse to give them another cent until Winston is gone. If they somehow resign Winston just wait and see what happens to the fan base and the NFL. It will plummet 10X worse than it is now.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:13 pm
Licht is the problem!!
October 27th, 2019 at 7:16 pm
Jameis doesn’t block. Neither does his line.
He isn’t a running back even though he led the Bucs in rushing today.
He doesn’t load up the rush because the Bucs can’t block or run the ball.
He isn’t a receiver running the wrong route.
He isn’t the Offensive Coordinator.
Jameis isn’t a bunch of young DBs who can’t cover.
He isn’t running the draft.
No. I don’t think Jameis is faultless.
It takes a team to win – or lose.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:19 pm
I wouldn’t put to much faith in anything BA says. After all he thinks Lefttwish is a good OC. That should tell you something right there.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:23 pm
JOE BURROW LSU QB thats my pick for replacing JW-3
October 27th, 2019 at 7:30 pm
The Coroner,
You’re right, he isn’t any of those things.
You know who 100% IS?
A guy that repeatedly fumbles the football, overthrows WRs or forces bad throws into INTs, has terrible footwork, holds the ball too long, and has zero consistency for an NFL QB. Summary: He sucks as a starting QB and needs to be loaded into the cannons at RayJay and fired right out of Tampa.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:35 pm
Bucsbandit. You are right I still believe that Jamies is good enough to win with. He’s just ask to do to much. Look the 49ers don’t ask Jimmy G to do everything. They are wining the same way I’ve been preaching since they drafted Jamies. You run the ball and play good defense that’s how you develop a young quarterback. But The bucs didn’t do that with Jamies. They asked him to come in and win a championship with no defense or running game and with a bottom ranked offensive line. And that’s to much for any quarterback young or old to do . All the young quarterbacks that’s playing good all have good teams around them and that’s the differences between them and Jamies. You can’t name 1 young quarterback that was asked to do what Jamies had to do with no defense or running game all of them has had or and still got a better team around them even right now today. But go ahead and please get another quarterback and next year when we lose just about every game I don’t want to here about team. And Jamies still found away to throw a over a 100 touchdowns at the age of 25 . Jamies will go to another team and win and every body knows it . Look at Teddy Bridgwater with the saints the saints has a good team they don’t need Brees and the Patriots don’t need Brady their defense is good and they can run the ball.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:39 pm
Oh and by the way how many touchdowns that Jimmy G threw ?? None right? And what was the score of the game 51 to 13 against the a good team. Ok lol lol lol the quarterback position is the most overrated position in the game!!! But the national media got all yall brainwash lol lol lol !!!!!!
October 27th, 2019 at 7:54 pm
So Joe you should do a pole of who’s the bigger problem
Jameis Winston or
Jason Licht
The answer should be 99% of fans say Jason Licht is the biggest problem because he is but it won’t cause many Buc fans have this weird twisted hate for JW for some reason that goes way beyond football.
October 27th, 2019 at 7:58 pm
Maybe they can find a QB this time who doesn’t have off-field issues, that most of America might actually not despise.
October 27th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Jason Licht is the problem. Not famous Jameis. Watch Jameis sit behind Brady and become a 13 time champion and the best to ever do it. Jameis Bashers are bungholes.
October 27th, 2019 at 8:55 pm
5 years is enough time for a pro athlete to improve. Winston is the same guy he was when he entered the league. The only improvement I’ve seen is he is throwing the deep ball better but some of those out patterns he was throwing into the dirt. I thought a couple of runs he made he waited a second too long before he took off and came up short because of that. His fumbles and sacks are worse than ever. The extra weight he is carrying has made him slower.
October 27th, 2019 at 8:59 pm
Oneilbucs,
You’re comparing apples to blueberries.
Most rookie QBs go to crappy teams, a team with a solid QB doesn’t need to draft a rookie. Jimmy G was a free agent signing, not a drafted rookie for the 49ers.
The Bucs overall stink and need major improvement. Our secondary is a liability. But our young Defense did hold the Titans to a total of under 200 yards of offense until late in the game. They finished holding them to like 270 total or something which is decent. But no doubt our secondary stinks.
With all that said, Jameis Winston can still be evaluated independently. Thats what guys like you don’t get… no one is mad that Jameis didn’t win the game (or others) people are mad because he’s played inconsistent and pretty terrible at times after four years in the league. He has a turnover problem which is a HUGE issue. You don’t agree with that?
Jameis also seems to be missing that ‘x’ factor to progress to the next level. His footwork seems bad and not getting better, and he seems to have a problem reading Defenses. He definitely holds the ball too long. If you can’t admit those things then you’re either lying to yourself and too biased about Winston (like NDog seems to be) or you don’t know football.
Again, no one is expecting Jameis to win games all by himself as it IS a team game. BUT… Jameis has nearly single handedly lost the Bucs games (or certainly put them in a really bad position and hole to dig out of) with his costly turnovers.
Jameis Winston just doesn’t seem to have what it takes to be an above average QB due to this inconsistency and ongoing turnover problems. If you watched the full game today then you know he very easily could have had at least 2 more turnovers. That’s NOT a good sign.
October 27th, 2019 at 9:08 pm
As a fan, I’m approaching the Glazers to obtain a new GM. This guy cannot be trusted to make any personnel decisions for this team. Just look at the roster.
October 27th, 2019 at 9:28 pm
The reason Winston is still the starting is because Licht screwed up picking him and is trying to make it work. Both are abject failures. The Glazers are the ones that call the shots ultimately and are not prepared to be owners in the NFL.
October 27th, 2019 at 10:13 pm
what the heck does Gilmore know? All of a sudden fans should listen to a second third string TE on the bucs roster….lol!
October 27th, 2019 at 10:21 pm
Ndog
Says it’s not JW’ fault because he and BA say so…
Both are completely Full O’ 💩
October 27th, 2019 at 10:23 pm
Mickman
Gilmore knows what anybody with two eyes knows…
Except for Ndog, he can’t see cuz JW’s balls are always in his face.
October 28th, 2019 at 4:11 am
Russell Wilson? He won throwing 20 passes.
Jimmy G is undefeated and playing like crap, throwing a bunch of picks despite having the most dominant run game AND defense in the entire NFL.
Talking heads are so stupid it’s scary.
October 28th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Julyjoe,
Too many turnovers. Can’t win. New qb please!