Jameis And The Pick-6 Club
October 4th, 2019
Want to know how wacky this Bucs season has been?
America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, has thrown three pick-6’s in four games and he’s being heralded for stellar play. Who could have predicted that in August?
With a fourth-quarter pick-6 against the Rams on Sunday, Jameis tied teammate Blaine Gabbert on the all-time list with seven.
What a loser!!! But wait a minute, those seven career Jameis pick-6’s place him three behind Cam Newton, who has 10. Matt Ryan has 16. Mighty Drew Brees has thrown 27. That’s tied with Peyton Manning.
Brett Favre is the all-time leader with 32, three ahead of Dan Marino. Yes, Marino threw 27 pick-6s.
Joe is painting a picture here, but don’t get confused. Not every great quarterback has thrown a lot of touchdowns to the wrong team. Hall of Famer Steve Young threw just four in 143 starts. Russell Wilson has just three since entering the league as a starter in 2012.
Joe hopes Jameis has gotten the pick-6s out of his system — at least for 2019.
October 4th, 2019 at 12:07 am
As long as we get the W. He can have 10 pick 6s in a single and we win? I’ll take it
October 4th, 2019 at 12:07 am
Winston should throw it to McCoy at the London game.
October 4th, 2019 at 12:17 am
If jameis throws 10 pick 6 in a game lol there won’t be a win
October 4th, 2019 at 12:35 am
And Russell Wilson just put up a game that ALL BUCS fans wish their QB could do
4 TDs / 0 Picks
That said JW3 beat the same team RW just did and he did it in Their house.
Fun stuff this yr all around the league. RW is what JW should model himself to be.
October 4th, 2019 at 1:40 am
I had the joy of conversing with one of our up front mailers on offense tonight. Here’s what I learned.
1. The players love BA.
2. They love the coaching staff for putting players in there best position to use their talent.
3. BA’s offensive scheme is way more complicated than previous schemes
4. Jamies is getting it and we should see a continuation of solid performances
5. This Mauler had a corrective conversation with JW and discussed leading with calmness vs rah rah speeches.
6. “We will crush them in the run game, if they move in to stop it, we will beat them over the top (He referenced Godwin and Evans)
7. “if they step back to cover the receivers, we will crush them in the run game”
8. He was disappointed in the lack of in stadium support. He understood that we are a beaten down fanbase. And the team is working hard to win us back and hopes we will be there if they keep winning. (He also understands we have a ton of other options in the Tampa Bay area compared to other markets.
9. A genuinely GREAT DUDE AND TOTAL MAULER!
Go Bucs!
In BA I Trust! More than Ever
TMax, buckle up, because this team will win you over!
October 4th, 2019 at 1:57 am
JW5 FSU career – YR 1 was AMAZING – National Championship. HIS Coach was ALL-IN. YEP – Team was all future NFL Draft pics…. Still, JW5 – Delivered!
Fast Forward to:
2015: JW3 at Bucs – his HC (Lovie Smith) was ALL-In on JW3 — 9-7 record
2016: HC -Dirk Quitter, who never wanted JW3…. 5-11
2017: HC – Dirk Quitter, who never wanted JW3…. 5-11
2018: HC – Dirk Quitter, who never wanted JW3…. 5-11
Hhmmm – see a pattern?
2019: HC – BA Believes in JW3. upward trending….???
Rest of 2019 – JW3 must deliver….to prove his mettle. As Franchise for Bucs
Watching with rest of BUCS real FANS….want to believe……2-2 today….Expectations? Playoffs, Baby!!!!
October 4th, 2019 at 1:58 am
Ha I posted a list of all the ‘franchise’ QBs with more than Jameis the other day, and that was just going back to 2015.
A win this Sunday would be huge.
October 4th, 2019 at 2:49 am
Russell Wilson is super
October 4th, 2019 at 3:33 am
Bucs went 9-7 in 2016 BA Redzone……
October 4th, 2019 at 3:56 am
Sport
“This Mauler had a corrective conversation with JW and discussed leading with calmness vs rah rah speeches.”
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It’s been clear that someone did this. I’m thankful that somebody did so. I’ve been thinking that it was Arians, but if not, it sounds like a “team captain” type of conversation to me. 🙂
I think the team also took my advice and finally started giving Jameis the pre-game Xanax. 😉
October 4th, 2019 at 4:00 am
@Sport
On point #8, Tampa has filled the stadium before, it’ll happen again. We just don’t give loyalty up for free.
It would be nice to see a new stadium price structure. It would bring folks back faster, more family friendly, but I don’t see that happening.
October 4th, 2019 at 4:19 am
2015 was 6-11 & 2016 was 9-7 BA redzone but I get what u mean
October 4th, 2019 at 4:34 am
BA Redzone … Uhhh, I think you have your 2015 & 2016 stats backwards? (Bucs were 6-10 in 2015 under Lovie & 9-7 in 2016 under Dirk). Kinda blows your argument? Oh & don’t forget that Jameis had the SAME OC from 2015-2018 … Dirk Koetter.
So what’s the REAL difference in 2019? BA the QB Whisperer? YES. Jameis maturing in his 5th year as a starting QB? YES. The Bucs having a better-performing OLine? YES. Jameis having TWO #1 WRs plus TWO exceptional TEs to throw to? YES. Jameis having a running game that’s somewhat CONSISTENT for a change? YES. Jameis having a defense that’s #1 in the NFL in rushing defense AND #2 in takeaways? YES.
LOTS of other things have changed this year in terms of TEAM performance which impact Jameis’ performance, and IMO they’re all trending UP. Which is a VERY GOOD THING BA RedZone. But therein lies the very point of what it takes to be successful in today’s NFL … it takes a TEAM. Certain other TEAMS who WIN CONSISTENTLY have already learned that. Our Bucs are just now STARTING to catch up.
Yes we beat a very good Rams’ TEAM, on their home turf, by putting it all together for one game. We’re now 2-2 with a winning streak of ONE. But that ONE game was a VERY significant win … our young team now knows what it’ll take to WIN CONSISTENTLY. To me, 2019 will be more about the story of BA and this Bucs’ coaching staff. Jameis will be a key element of that story, but so will many others before this year is finished. Savor each victory … yes, BUT we’re not Super Bowl Champs yet. But that day is coming.
October 4th, 2019 at 5:29 am
OK, I’m confused. Painting a picture or ‘selling Jameis’ again? Pick-6’s stand on their own (as do ALL turnovers). They’re BAD; they’re very, very BAD. Don’t really care how much company our QB has as a member of the Pick-6 Club. They’re BAD; they’re very, very BAD.
And the irony to me is that the one who pays the price in the stats is the DEFENSE because THEY get tagged with the points allowed. Same with safeties. The DEFENSE (and ultimately the TEAM of course) pays the price, not the offense. So then certain media types (not saying who mind you) continue their narrative of bad-mouthing the Bucs’ defense as being putrid or whatever every time we lose, while simultaneously heaping praise on the Bucs’ offense every time we win.
Through 4 games (2-2), Bucs’ offense is credited with scoring 123 points while our defense is credited with allowing 117 points. Relatively even, about what one would expect for a team with a 2-2 record. But change the way points are awarded in those stats and a very much different picture unfolds. Defense scored 7 points on their own Pick-6, so reduce the offense total to 116 points. And take away those 3 Pick-6s and safety that the Bucs’ offense allowed, and our defense has REALLY allowed 94 points (won’t count the other offensive turnovers that our defense got tagged with the points for a short range FG for). Still not nearly as good as our defense will be once our youngsters in the Secondary gain experience, but a LOT better than the #28 ranking we now hold.
But oh well, none of that fits with the ‘offensive juggernaut’ picture that’s being painted so I’ll just stay ‘confused’ I guess.
October 4th, 2019 at 6:35 am
At this point Jameis leads the league in pick sixes in 2019. Is it possible Jameis has tendencies on film that defensive backs can key on? Maybe, that would be a good thing for the coaching staff and Jameis to explore.
In the win over the rams,I agree with DR that the defense set the table for
the offense. The good thing is we capitalized on our opportunities, YEAH!
This offense is moving in the right direction. But there will times when the turnovers don’t happen, and the offense will have have to carry the load.
October 4th, 2019 at 6:47 am
What’s amazing is with 5 HC staff CHANGES in 12 years, Fameis has thrown only 3 pick-sixes. Bucs are 2-2 and getting set for the Aints in NOLA. 40-year diehard Buc fan speaking here. Man, I hope I can finally see this offense blossom, as in explode! Go Mighty Bucs!!
October 4th, 2019 at 7:08 am
Two types of pick 6-
The type Hargreaves had. That’s on the QB.
The type Peters had. This one really isn’t on the QB. He ran through the entire offense. He was hardly touched until he hit the goal line. And he stayed on the sideline outside the hash. No excuse for this one.
October 4th, 2019 at 7:57 am
LOL @ BA! Honestly laughed out loud when I saw his inaccurate numbers re Lovie vs Dirk. There is a reason we have a fan base that is laughed at.
October 4th, 2019 at 7:59 am
Winston is definitely among “The Greats” in coughing up Pick 6’s. Yay. It’s laughable that Joe uses a negative (once again) to tell us how great Jameis is.
October 4th, 2019 at 8:24 am
lamarcus
i agree…..
as long as we win…im good….
GO BUCS!!!!!
October 4th, 2019 at 8:32 am
“they’re all trending UP”
Whoop there it is. And as frequently happens from D.R.
This is what REALLY matters. Not the 2-2 but what direction are we heading?
October 4th, 2019 at 8:37 am
Someone has to make that tackle in the Rams game. Marcus Peters did a great job, give him some credit for making a great play. It’s not like JW3 threw an out to him. One of his teammates has to make that tackle. DS76 with a great blow up at the end, but lucky to not be suspended IMO.
October 4th, 2019 at 8:39 am
Sorry Slugg- didn’t see your comment- should have just said I agree with Slugg, LOL
October 4th, 2019 at 8:39 am
I hope so because everyone else on that list has years on him including Cam. Just don’t throw pick 6’s in the second half of games
October 4th, 2019 at 8:40 am
Go away Morgus, let us have our fun while we can. I can’t tell if you like Jameis or not, please clarify
October 4th, 2019 at 9:17 am
Like most Bucs’ fans…….not.
October 4th, 2019 at 9:21 am
JayMiss is a charter member of the Pick 6 club. As such, I expect he will continue to contribute generously.
October 4th, 2019 at 9:39 am
Four games into the season people…. I’m hoping for the OL and JW to be turned around but I’m not ready to say it after one or two decent games. Hell, Joe was talking poor OL play earlier this season. Cappa also did give up a sack to Donald. Let’s wait until AT LEAST the halfway mark. As Joe has been saying, this match Sunday is a big proving ground for this OL and Jameis.
GO Neers!
October 4th, 2019 at 9:40 am
Morgus and NPR
An honest question with no snark. I’ve defended JW and I’ve criticized him. I like him and still cheer for him. But I realize his checkered past.
Soooo….if we win ten games this year…make the playoffs…and JW plays all year like this past Sunday…will you guys be happy?
That’s not a challenge to continue the JW debate…more of a curiosity as to what it might take for JW to satisfy his doubters.
October 4th, 2019 at 10:12 am
Theoretical question…..theoretical response seems justifiable. What if he pulls crap like he has in the past, and goes say 8-8…would you be happy? His track record is what it is. That is not theoretical.
October 4th, 2019 at 11:16 am
StPete:
I believe Jameis lost at least one game for us this season. Our kicker lost another. Those two positions are weighted more highly for me because one player can change the entire course of the game rather than blaming a loss on 11 players when someone talks the Defense. Kickers losing games is inexcusable but if Jameis plays like he has this season we’d be 3-1 which I’d be happy with. You have to realize that if he throws 3 picks 25% of the time there will be other games when the defense is to blame or the kicker is to blame which will make for more losses. I’d like to see Jameis go another two-three games without multiple picks before I’m real happy. Sorry for rambling
October 4th, 2019 at 1:30 pm
Russ Wilson worth every penny
October 4th, 2019 at 10:24 pm
Morgus the Magnificent Says:
October 4th, 2019 at 9:17 am
Like most Bucs’ fans…….not.
I was at the Rams game in person on Sunday
I was extremely surprised at the number of Bucs fans in attendance
They were easy to spot because of their jerseys
There was a few 55’s 99’s, Evans was well represented
The # 1 jersey present? Easily 50+%…
#3 Winston (including women and children)
Wake up bub!
You haven’t a clue