“We Just Gotta Get Open”
September 10th, 2019
Jameis calls out receivers
Jameis Winston has a public message for his pass catchers.
America’s Quarterback was not asked about his receivers at his news conference today. But he seemed eager to call them out.
About 40 seconds into to his afternoon presser, Jameis was asked what type of challenges the Carolina front-4 presents to his offense.
The verbatim reply?
“We just gotta get open. I would say that,” Jameis said. “We know they have a good front. I believe we have a good offensive line. So it’s going to be a great NFL football game. We gotta get the ball out quickly, too, and execute. That’s all we can do.”
Either Jameis watched the film and didn’t like what he saw from his receivers, or he heard coaches harping on that in meetings. Of course, Jameis was in the pocket Sunday watching the Bucs apparently struggle to get separation at times from a 49ers secondary that isn’t too special.
Very intriguing answer from Jameis.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:18 pm
Or maybe he was just stating the obvious and there’s no reason to consider it a “call out.”
September 10th, 2019 at 6:20 pm
What difference is it if they are open. The only plays Jameis can make is 50/50 jump balls. Hopefully Evans will feel better because if your banking on Jameis hitting players in stride you havent been watching the last 5 years.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:21 pm
Not having DJax is already hurting our receivers. Mike Evans was double teamed a lot last game.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:21 pm
Agree… they need to get open. And for a change, you need to hit the open man when he is open.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:21 pm
What is that saying about people that live in glass houses ?….BA has not set the precedent for calling out and pointing fingers…this could get uglier than DJax raising his flag in Fitz’s camp last year then pouting on and off the field…362 days until opening day 2020…gessshhhh
September 10th, 2019 at 6:24 pm
Ok, Jameis, ok….
They don’t always get open in the NFL. Sometimes you have to throw them open. Sometimes you have to….gasp….read a defense pre-snap and know who is going to be open. With your elongated release you cant wait for them to get open, you need to throw it before they get open. It’s called a timing route.
We ran the pick play on the goal line with Godwin and you double pumped on a three yard route for christ sake. How slow a processor can you be. We cant even throw slants because it takes you 3 seconds to get the ball out of your hand.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:24 pm
The receivers do need to get open, but even if they do, Jameis will still probably throw to the other team. Smh
September 10th, 2019 at 6:25 pm
“We just gotta get open. I would say that…”
Cut to compilation video of Jameis missing open receivers running deep for 4 seasons plus.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:28 pm
I already see Arians trying to spread the blame around to lower the blame. Its about Jameis this year not wins. Sad but true. #stoptheinsanity
September 10th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
He doesn’t have to hit our open guys any more than half the time… he just has to avoid throwing it to their open guys.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:30 pm
It’ll get really interesting real quickly if JW starts blaming his teammates for his mistakes.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:32 pm
Sit down, child.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:32 pm
I haven’t been buying the Chris Godwin O.J. Howard hype. I need to see it first. Perriman is very unproven as well. A lot of defenses are going to man these receivers up while doubling Evans. They know Winston isn’t very accurate and these pass catchers are going to have to win one on one. Hump was severely missed on Sunday. Godwin is going to have to really step up and soon.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:33 pm
You know if Jameis could hit our receivers between the numbers like he does the defensive backs and linebackers we’d be in business. What about the one Kwon dropped? lol it was right in his breadbasket.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:35 pm
Please run the football 30+ times. The vikes said they would take the football out of cousins hand during the off season and they did just that week 1. Didn’t concern themselves with the amount of money they gave him last off season. They did what they felt was needed to win. Don’t recall ever seeing an NFL QB throw just 10 passes resulting in a win. A dominant win at that.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:41 pm
Calling them out??? Joe man you twist things way too much sometimes! He is simply stating the obvious. You need to be better than this.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:43 pm
Vikes ran that rock 38x. Dalvin only accounted for 21. It’s early in the season, kinks still have to be worked out. Run the damn football man.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:49 pm
Honestly, this is disturbing. Behind closed doors, I have no problem with Jameis calling out his receivers…or TE’s…or RB’s. Or Arians doing it. But you have enough problems of your own, Jameis. And starting to call out your teammates isn’t productive. What next… Evans, et.al. calling you out for missing them when his first read is covered, and they are open second or third reads? Or when he overthrows them? Djax could have done that many times but refrained. Or the O line calling him out when he holds the ball too long? This might not end well.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:49 pm
DJAX is a huge addition to that Eagles offense & a big loss here. Of course having an OC like leftwich is a joke. Tom Moore, BA, & Clyde and the bucs offense throws more tds than the SF offense. PS, the bucs defense is still very bad and the bucs dbs blew more sunday than any niner will ever get in the castro disctrict
September 10th, 2019 at 6:50 pm
Say what you want but there wasn’t very much separation at any point on Sunday. Maybe a route here or there. Believe it or not this is exactly what you want to see. Jameis holding his receivers accountable and emphasizing to himself that he needs to get the ball out asap. The next step would be grabbing dotson or Donovan by the grill and demanding they tighten up. Brees Brady or Rodgers would not allow the penalties or lackadaisical footwork.
My guess is the passing game looks much closer to normal now that big Mike is hopefully past the flu bug.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:51 pm
Any of the other 31 qbs in the league would’ve had success on Sunday. Time for Kaepernick. Save the season.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:51 pm
Make no mistake, the staff is supporting Jameis to prove he’s not a starter, that’s his only leash. Arians was brought here to find our future QB and whisper him to a playoff berth!
September 10th, 2019 at 6:52 pm
Watching the Monday night games and how their receivers created separation really drives this home.
I will say that on the O.J. int there were two RBs open out of the backfield. Barber had nobody within 5-7 yards of him and was visibly upset when the ball ended in the Niners hands.
How many times does Winston need to watch McCaffery, Kamara and Freeman catch passes out of the backfield and make the first man miss. I’m cool with a five yard gain and I would say the the coaches would be too.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:52 pm
I think Jameis’s agent has told him it’s a contract year and if he wants to get paid he better stop being humble. Perhaps even diverting onto other players. I’m sure Jameis doesn’t see his own problems. It’s like a married couple going into counseling. You rarely get a lot of humility. You get finger pointing.
September 10th, 2019 at 6:59 pm
Sounds like JayMiss sees the handwriting on the wall is trying to pull an “Antonio Brown” type exit.
It won’t work because he’s not an elite QB.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:02 pm
Howard was open and drop ball. I get it. The turnaround was Sunday loss but Jamies pls throw it to your team at least the oline instead of the other team. Heck I know you want touchdowns but not that way !
Tom Moore whispers to Bruce isn’t the QB suppose to throw it to his receivers to get touchdowns , so why are we throwing it to the other team lol.
Tampa bay buccaneers are right on with’ Raise the flags ‘ , we are raising them yellow flags for sure !
September 10th, 2019 at 7:06 pm
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Apparently this guy has never heard of a ‘back shoulder fade’ or ‘comeback’ or ‘dig’ route.
These are all NFL throws that happen BEFORE the receiver gets open. It gives the Offense an advantage knowing where the receiver is headed.
Jameis’ massive INT problem wouldn’t be so bad if the guy was at least getting rid of the ball quickly. His INTs come after he holds the ball forever and then forces a bad pass, often when the true route is already over and he’s trying to make something out of nothing.
Jameis lacks the ability to do quick reads and make quick decisions. PERIOD.
Every other great NFL QB has many routes that they throw before the receiver gets out. Even outs were the QB makes a quick pass and if the receiver happens not to be able to get there then at least the corner can’t either. Yet Winston rarely ever throws these passes.
It’s like the game moves too fast for Winston to process. That’s why he’s always dancing around and trying to salvage things with 50/50 jump balls and crap like that.
The passes that require the QB to make sure the receiver is open are often passes to the RBs, because they are often jammed at the line and kept from releasing, which is part of defensive scheme. Just like he didn’t see Dare get jammed by LB #57 on that fatal INT late in the game on Sunday. It’s Winston’s job to make sure Dare fully releases okay before throwing the screen.
MAN… this guy… JUST… PLAIN… SUCKS.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:07 pm
Jameis needs to pull an Andrew Luck.
RUN JAMEIS RUN
September 10th, 2019 at 7:09 pm
totally reaching here joes. as much as i hate this dude, your obviously looking for click-bait.
Dude, Jameis said this, not Joe. Rarely, very rarely, will Jameis ever talk about how anyone other than himself has to play better. It stands out. Don’t like it. Fine. But don’t call it click-bait. –Joe
September 10th, 2019 at 7:09 pm
Bandit
The pick to Barber, ball was released before the break. “Perfectly thrown ball” Barber ran the wrong route.
How stupid can you be?
September 10th, 2019 at 7:11 pm
7.3 QBR. Nothing else can be said. Cut the ignorant narcissistic coward. You would not get a 5th round draft pick for him now.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:12 pm
I don’t know about calling out his receivers. Anybody with 2 eyes and a reasonable idea of how football works could see that our receiving corpos was straight trash in that game. The 9ers secondary is average at best but they looked like world beaters last Sunday. Jameis, per usual, is not free from blame. In fact, I blame him first for this loss against a lackluster 49ers team. Forget about everything else, the fact of the matter is there were about 2 mins left in the game with timeouts to boot and Jameis threw one of the worst picks I have ever had the pleasure of seeing. It was clear that the screen was blown up and it should have been obvious to Jameis. Instead he lofts a ball to nobody in particular that was easily sniped as a pick 6. That is flat out unforgivable for a QB trying to earn a huge extension. Let me back up here for a sec. That’s unforgivable for ANY starting QB. How many times have we seen this story play out with Jameis. Jameis career stats to this point 89 TD’s 61 Int’s. GTFOH. I was a huge supporter of Jameis and I still hope for the Golden Willy Wonka ticket to fall into his lap, but let’s be honest. Jameis is who he has been for the last 4+ years and it’s far from acceptable. Nobody cares that he is only 25 years old. There are plenty of average at best 25 year old QB’s out there but they aren’t starting and they aren’t getting huge extensions.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:14 pm
DB55. You are correct. Which brings me to my next point. WTF is Molasses Barber doing out there. He should only come in if ROJO needs a breather. Dare should be the 3rd down back although watching that dude get picked up and thrown back into Jameis was scary on pass protection. With that said, Dare can blaze and make some plays whereas Molasses Barber ummmm, can’t.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:16 pm
Buc Dan,
Separation is created by the QB NOT starring down receivers! DB’s are only following the eyes of the QB. Plus hanging on to the ball too long gives DB’s time to recover even when they are beat badly. That OJ Howard pass he starred him down to the point where he was triple covered then threw it.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:19 pm
DB55 – yes, Barber ran a bad route. Now address Winston’s other 43 mistakes in that game. Go ahead, we’ll wait.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:19 pm
@Duthsty. Really? The defense was the only bright spot. The secondary especially as the D Line only created a little pressure. Jameis and Molasses Barber combined to give the 9ers 14 points and a lovely display of special teams blocking resulting in a blocked punt gave away another 3 points. So, at worst, the defense gave up 14 points and that’s being generous.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:21 pm
Jameis simply does not see the field well or he sees it an ignores it looking for the big play every time…..he needs to focus on the open receiver or back….someone is always open.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:21 pm
*****HONEST QUESTION*****
Is there a more uncomfortable-looking QB in the NFL after the snap than Jameis Winston?
September 10th, 2019 at 7:29 pm
Some of you guys fall for whatever Joe says. He was not calling out his receivers. He should’ve though. It seems that nobody is comfortable in this offense yet. Gotta get there real soon.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:32 pm
So joez just commented the other day to me even …questioning …
Who has a better receiver / tight end group in the nfl then the Bucs.
All of a sudden they don’t know how to run routes and cannot get separation.
Dang receivers. Dang tight ends.
Even better joe called DJax garbage and malcontent /. Waste of a free agent.
Pretty sure he was same old DJax on Sunday with someone that can throw a deep ball
The double standard here is unbelievable
It is so entertaining. The excuses are amazing.
The story is changing now though.
It used to be no running game and no defense and no kicker.
😂
September 10th, 2019 at 7:33 pm
Let’s start by no throwing the ball to the other team, then progressing to separation and route running 101, then catching the pigskin, then securing it while running.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:37 pm
My goodness we have some stupid fans on this site. BTW everything I stated the night of the game is being repeated by the coaches and players. All this was so obvious yet everyone just can’t wait to blame the QB. The offense sucked flat out sucked Godwin dropped a ball, Perriman dropped a ball, OJ dropped a ball, they were rarely open. A fumble in red zone, two penalities cost us TDs, missed blocking assignments, one missed deep shot, just overall sloppiness. I hope we wake up this week as we are way better than that.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:38 pm
Wentz stared down Djx on both his yds passes. Where’s the outcry? It’s because it’s what the Qb does
September 10th, 2019 at 7:38 pm
Murda
Finally someone that has a clue. Did you see the TD pass to Godwin with Sherman literally draped on his back? No call but shocked he was able to throw it into godwins gut like that.
Btw, dont tell the rest of these clowns but if my memory serves me correctly BA is like 2-6 all time vs the Panthers. But I’ll start blaming Jameis now! Lmao 🤣
September 10th, 2019 at 7:41 pm
I think this quick turnaround game is just what we need so that they can get this bad taste out of their mouths. Then have a long week to recoup, prepare and go get that W from the Giants.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:43 pm
I really think it’s time for Joe to pull the plug on that ridiculous moniker….America’s quarterback……he doesn’t deserve that recognition!!
September 10th, 2019 at 7:45 pm
Jameis was trash, just really bad decision making.
I don’t believe he was calling out anyone and if he was then he was projecting his own insecurities. Everyone that I have seen and heard breakdown his film is absolutely baffled at his horrible decision making.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:45 pm
During the summer while crazy Joe was trashing DJax I said not having him will impact Evans game. They had him double covered most the time he was out there.
so far game 1 ..here we are 28 yards granted he was under the weather
also Godwin now has to average 63 yards a game to get a 1000. It was 62.5
September 10th, 2019 at 7:46 pm
@gotbbucs nailed it.
And I wholeheartedly agree with most about how bout we truly commit to RoJo and the running game? Take some pressure off JW. Just don’t run straight up the middle every first down let’s go off tackle let’s go around the end let’s do a little bit of different stuff with it besides just straight up dives.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:50 pm
Chris Godwin stats last year – 59 receptions for 842 yds and 7 tds
Mike Evans career 394 catches . 6,131 yards and 40 tds
Cam Brate 8 , 6 and 6 tds the last 3 years . In top 3 for tight ends.
Oj Howard – 11 tds in young career – 250 plus lbs 6-5 and runs a 4.5 forty
Perriman was clocked by one person at pro day with 4.25
Yah. It’s defnitely our receiver / tight end group
Probably should draft better guys next year.
👀
September 10th, 2019 at 7:57 pm
Ndog. I was with you for a long time. Everything you stated is true but the one person that affects the game and everything you mentioned is the QB. Drew Brees finds guys like Tre’Quan Smith for TDs because he does everything to help his team. Little things like look the safety off, audible out of plays designed for failure, moving around the pocket with good footwork while keeping his eyes downfield, throwing the ball away instead of taking a sack when the play is not there. He does all the little things that Jameis will simply never grasp. Year number 5. Excuses are over. Rookie mistakes are over. He is what he is. I would happily be wrong and I hope I am and Jameis takes a sudden leap but in our heart we all know J Dub just doesn’t have what it takes. All of us know that including me, you, DB55.
September 10th, 2019 at 7:59 pm
You people still don’t get it
What doomed the Yucs last season were the turnovers
What doomed them Sunday was the turnovers
All of this other talk is nonsense!!
September 10th, 2019 at 8:05 pm
Man I spoke to soon but maybe you’re right cmurd a
I see a total jailbreak on 1/3 of snaps. I don’t think any QB can get in a rhythm that way.
Like I said yesterday imo there’s only two young QBs better than THE MESSIAH:
Watson and Wentz.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:12 pm
DB55…well, Mahomes is pretty young…and pretty good. Wouldn’t you say?
September 10th, 2019 at 8:14 pm
“Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes has most passing yards in NFL history through first 20 games”
Messiah type stats, wouldn’t you say?
September 10th, 2019 at 8:15 pm
Joe
Patiently awaiting for the article about our #5 overall pick.
Not only did he get outplayed by Teflon Kwon in the 5 mins he played but he got outplayed by Teflon Kwon’s back up too.
Maybe Winston threw that pick to take the attention away from his teammate. 🤣
September 10th, 2019 at 8:15 pm
These comments are FIRE
September 10th, 2019 at 8:18 pm
The Bucs will have their choice of QBs with the top overall pick.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:18 pm
Mark
Personally think Mahomes will be exposed this year the jury is still out. He didn’t do that well after getting injured and losing hill. But I could be wrong let’s see.
Baker has already been exposed and there were tons of baker fans on here during the off-season. Just like the mm they disappeared too but wtfdik
September 10th, 2019 at 8:19 pm
Surprised someone hasn’t stepped up and changed their name to “America’s Fan”. If Jameis is America’s QB, seems any of us could be America’s fan.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:21 pm
All we heard thru the off season is that WR and TE were two areas of strength for our team. Maybe the only areas of strength. Now they suddenly turned into a bunch of lead footed bums?
If our receiving corps goes all DJAX on Jameis after this, we are done.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:21 pm
@DB55. WDFDIK too. Every time I call somebody out on this team during the game, that dude makes a play right after. Case in point. I’m a VH3 fan and I was trying to punch him through my TV when he gave up that first down. I think it was 2 plays later, VH3 makes a sweet read and pick 6 baby! By the way, VH3 was great and so was our secondary except for the one deep ball.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:26 pm
DB55… you have a point, that during the first and second offseason, D Coordinators pick apart the QB’s game and expose weaknesses., at least from what I’ve seen. The great QB’s adjust, and go onward and upward, growing, refining their game, and countering. The poor ones fail to adjust, and their ceiling is limited, after which begins a slow decline. So which trajectory is Jameis on..and Mahomes? Time will tell. Frankly, they both have good guys in their corner…Andy and Bruce. But will they listen, learn, and be able to adjust? That is more in the player than it is in the coach, when they both have two well respected coaches working with them.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:41 pm
I thought the same thing watching the game. Evans didn’t look like himself and the WRs and TEs could get zero separation. Even the 3 TD passes (2 called back because Dot) had to be perfect throws. It was tough sledding all day.
I was encouraged by the run game. The WRs will get better. OJ had a really bad game and has got to fix his fumbling issues. I thought Brate looked healthy and played well.
Lots of offenses looked off week 1. Pittsburgh looked terrible, the Browns with Baker’s 3 ints and big loss, Josh Allen threw 4 picks and the bills won an ugly one on both sides. Everyone always over reacts week one win or lose.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
I just want to swap out QBs. Take Winston and put him on the chiefs, eagles, cowboys or Cleveland.
I just want to see what Mahomes can do with Dotson and Cappa blocking for him but again wtfdik.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:45 pm
Since 2017. Tank for Tua
September 10th, 2019 at 8:53 pm
Yeah, that right side of our line is scary. Donovan Smith at left tackle is no world beater. I was pleasantly surprised with the O Line overall. I expected our glaring weakness against the 9ers to be our Oline. Unfortunately, it was the rest of the offense.
September 10th, 2019 at 8:55 pm
It is difficult to separate the QB from the rest of the Offense, though I have seen AR over long periods of time, play well enough to compensate for a poor running game and poor O line. And a suspect D In the day of salary caps, it is rarely a perfect situation, for anyone. My guess is that Winston would be a slightly better QB with those lines, and Mahomes a slightly worse QB with ours. But ass you said, WTFDIK. I’d also say…ask yourself…have you seen adjustments in Jameis game over the last four plus years, to find open receivers better, to throw the deep ball better, to look off receivers better, to read defenses better, etc.? I do think he had inferior coaching in the past, but this year should tell the tale.
September 10th, 2019 at 9:08 pm
Mark
No. Can’t say I do but I can find plenty of excuses why 🤣🤣
Seriously though, I recall jameis changing Koetter s plays and getting hammered for it? Am I wrong?
He’s also blind as a bat hence the squinting he’s done since FSU. Do you remember his combine workout when he led his receiver into a folding table? Lmao. Dudes blind hence his poor long balls.
Reading defenses? Idk I think Winston is stuck in an abusive relationship. If he audibles he’s not listening and uncoachable. If he executes the play and does his job he should have waited for the second or third option to come open but don’t hold the ball too long cuz that’s bad too. And if you scramble and get hit from behind while your tackles watch in amazement certainly don’t fumble.
What the “real fans” apparently don’t or can’t see is just how bad his supporting cast is, absolutely horrible on both sides of the ball, wait on all 3 sides of the ball. #wtfdik
September 10th, 2019 at 9:09 pm
#moreweaponsforwinston
Get off your a**es Glaziers!!!
September 10th, 2019 at 9:20 pm
I hope they replayed the Saints Texans game at OBP this morning.
September 10th, 2019 at 9:21 pm
I agree that Koetter did little to help Jameis… So I won’t disagree with performance issues as a result of his leadership. But Arians has a great track record. And if Jameis can’t become a quality starting QB now, I doubt it will happen. Let’s see how he grows in the things I mentioned. I’m hoping he does. It is now or never, from a Bucs perspective…because of where he is in his career…his contracts…where we are as an organization. Bowles is getting the Defenseive house in order, and we don’t even have JPP back yet. The O line is coming along, though I think Dotson is just too old to be more than what he is. The running game is coming around. The receivers do need to play better. But Jameis is the key…no revelation, as the QB is the key on most teams. Hoping for the best, but didn’t see it last game. Fortunately we don’t have long to wait for chapter 2.
September 10th, 2019 at 9:27 pm
Stang I understand what you’re saying and I agree but at the same time if I were a Texans fan I walk away from last night’s lost with my head held high. Only thing I would be pist about would be my HC and DC having those DBs 30 yard off the ball as if brees were playing to score a touchdown when everyone knew all they needed was 3 for a win. The look and feel of that game was just different, it had a professional feel to it. Their were penalties but overall both teams looked like a professional outfit.
September 10th, 2019 at 9:41 pm
Texans ran the ball 23x. Carlos Hyde 10 rush attempts 85 yards. DeShaun only threw 30 passes but if Hyde had a few more touches they probably win that game. Brees 43 pass attempts and it still took a 58 yarder to pull out that game. Call it a passing league all you want, the team’s that run the rock are the teams winning division titles and competing for championships in January. Check out the pat boys run/pass ratio from Sunday night.
September 10th, 2019 at 9:42 pm
DB55
It’s funny how people know so little about JW qb situation. The JW haters only see what they are looking for: his shortcomings. Can’t change that that’s in our Dna. If we don’t like something we find a reason not to like it. If we like something we will find a reason to like it.
I like JW. He is my favorite player. He is one of the most popular player ever for the Bucs. He gets ppl going. Winning QBs don’t get this much attention. This is actually unbelievable!!! I’m just stunned by the reaction it’s funny as hell JW hurts grown man’s feelings lol
September 10th, 2019 at 9:44 pm
Don’t expect any improvements as long as cappa and Dotson are out there.
Watch highlights of yesterday’s TD throws and count how many seconds these QBs have to throw the ball. #Jealous
September 10th, 2019 at 9:45 pm
Lamarcus
Lost in all of the complaining is that JW broke the record for most yards as a Bucs QBs. Did it in less games than everyone else too. But hey #ATM
September 10th, 2019 at 9:50 pm
I agree that the long developing plays with Jameis getting pressure immediately aren’t helping.
In his second system with two offensive minded HCs, I’m wondering where the quick hitting timing routes are? Hitting receivers in stride on short passes and letting them get yards…
Jameis is a big play type QB always looking for the kill shot, so it’s either bad game planning or Jameis isn’t capable of the methodical “move the chains” type of pay or (even worse) a combination of both.
#Bucslife
September 10th, 2019 at 9:56 pm
Funny to scroll through twitter watching people say “now that I’ve sobered up and got to see the tape again, slow it down and break it down none of those INTs were JW’s fault”. 🤣🤣🤣
Oh you silly rascals
September 10th, 2019 at 9:56 pm
Real talk DB
Did Jameis enough to win that game?
September 10th, 2019 at 9:59 pm
I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again … it’s s TEAM game. Bottom line is that the BUCS lost, as a team. Yes I was ecstatic with the way our defense played, for a first game of the season. The stats will tag them with 31 POINTS ALLOWED though, and that’ll tag them as a bad defense, just like in years past. That’s a shame, but that’s the way it is. It gives Joe something to complain about.
Bucs’ offense looked really discombobulated Sunday. Beyond the turnovers, there was no pace, no rhythm to what they were doing. Some of the things that went on are befuddling, and it looked to me like some guys just lacked ‘energy’ (maybe that’s why they weren’t getting open?). For instance, Godwin played 91% of the offensive snaps, was targeted 6 times, but only caught 3. ME13 (who was sick) played 86% of the offensive snaps, but was only targeted 5 times, and only caught 2. Me thinks that Jameis REALLY missed Hump as his safety valve to keep drives moving.
Use of the RBs was equally befuddling to me. RoJo looked like he had a hot hand, but he was only on the field for 22 snaps (31%) … rushed 13 times for 75 yds & was 1-for-1 in the passing department. Barber was on the field for 25 snaps (36%) and had 8 rushes & went 2-for-4 in the passing game. The RB who was on the field the most in the game? Dare Ogunbowale … on the field for 27 snaps (39%) yet had 0 rushes, but did go 4-for-5 in the passing department. Wonder if the 49ers ever caught on to what Leftwich was doing with the RBs.
Bucs had 11 total drives. Had it not been for VHIII’s Pick-6, they would’ve had 0 points at the half (we were actually winning at the half BTW). Five total drives … punt, punt, fumble, INT, end of half (time ran out). That’s the very definition of ANOTHER SLOW START. Six total drives in the 2nd half … INT, TD, Downs, FG, INT, Downs. No rhythm. Yes Jameis threw 3 INTs. Yes he fumbled 2 times (recovered both). Yes his QBR was only 45.4 for the game. But he had lots of help in executing this dumpster-diving performance. Keep an eye next game on the play-calling and use of personnel. I suspect we’ll see some changes there.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:02 pm
I am over Jameis and his horrid play on the field more often than not. But I like that he called out the wide receivers. He has never really called out anyone in his career and blamed everything bad on himself. So I actually give him props for doing it. Every great qb does it. But I just feel it’s to little to late he should
Have been doing this from day one and he might have been better for it. Instead of putting every loss every bad play on his shoulders instead of calling out people who don’t do there job. This is Ariana speak coming out through him feels like he was told to say this. Like I said in previous post if he doesn’t come out and have a near perfect game he is done. If he loses to Carolina and has a bad game. Every fan will turn on him and it will end bad. In my eyes this is the biggest game of his career. He has to silence the critics and make week one just seem like a week one new system game. If not I see radio station billboards again. Get rid of Winston. And then all the bad off the field stuff gets brought back up again and all magnified. Thursday is his last game for the fans. Fail Thursday miserably and he will lose the fan base for good.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:03 pm
I watched him throw his typical 3 or 4 lasers per game.
Especially that heater to Godwin (Impossible to see real time)
But c’mon now – if those niners DB’s didn’t have butta hand…
…You could’ve easily added another pick-six, and redzone pick to his list bruh.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:08 pm
None of the INT’s were his fault? Hilarious
Obviously the first one wasn’t his fault, and say what you want about the second one, but the third one was without a doubt all Jameis. And let’s not forget the perfect throw right to Kwon that was dropped and the other perfect throw to the 9ers Moore that was dropped on the goal line.
For every INT you claim is not Jameis’ fault there is another INT that never happened because it was the defense’s fault. You win some, you lose some. Well, Jameis loses a lot more than others I guess, of course nothing is ever his fault.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:15 pm
Which ex TE,Moore or Gilmore said that nobody is going to listen to Jameis.
Last I checked no receiver has been benched for poor play. Kind of reminds me
of the time Jameis told Evans :I don’t throw the deep ball good so you gotta
catch it.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
lol^^^
September 10th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
There’s a reason why defensive players Luvvvv playing against this kid.
He T’s that sh!t up for’em errrrytime. U know that bruh.
These brothas are bailing – but they’re turnt around the whole time.
Begging for this Kat to release the rock.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
walkdaplank
September 10th, 2019 at 10:18 pm
You want to pay Jameis back up money for his play, and use the rest to build a world class defense?…fine. But to pay starter money in the first big contract? Only if he plays up to it. Maybe he will….hope so. But if not, time to move on and find someone deserving of thirty plus mil. a year contract. Just saying….
September 10th, 2019 at 10:27 pm
Less talking jameis more doing . I’m so sick of this sh**. Prove it to me and just win baby!
September 10th, 2019 at 10:31 pm
You can’t reasonably defend Jameis. The offense was horrible all around but you know who didn’t stink? The O Line. It’s squarely on J Dub. It’s enough with the bailouts. The coach this, the RB that. The route running. Come on. Even if Jameis should only be blamed for 1 of those picks, he was terrible all game. His numbers, Qb rating and our eyeballs don’t lie. Jameis has even lost his swag. He was hailed as a leader but when you don’t walk the walk, the voice gets quieter.
@DRules. Nah, 14 points were pick 6’s for the 9ers. Those won’t be counted against the defense. The blocked punt which only resulted in 3 points will though. A freaking punt block. The ineptitude spewing from this team for over a decade has worn thin on the biggest of optimists like this guy typing this. The punt blocks and the big returns always seem to happen against us. The missed fg’s – us. Incapable returners – us. Gimme a break. I’m not overreacting to the 1st game of the season. I’m just reacting to more of the same over the last 10-15 years.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:33 pm
Luv
Short answer is no. I need to watch the game again. Based on what I’ve seen I say the kid is shook. Hearing footsteps and ghosts.
That play to Godwin in the end zone that “almost got picked” you see a DT pushing cappa in JWs lap, which catches JWs attention. Hes not sure if he should run or pass the ball or if he’s going to get hit. There’s the hesitation incomplete pass
On another play (5 step drop) he’s 7 yards behind the line and as soon as he plants his foot he has to scramble bc a DE is in his face. Had ME wide open down field but can’t gather himself to throw it instead takes the sack. Seriously though if we can’t give the kid time to plant on a 5 step drop then wtf are we even doing out there?
I don’t care who you are those hits accumulate, kid already broke his shoulder year 2. I think he’s suffering from ptsd. Doesn’t trust his line. You know who else suffered from the same thing? Doug Martin his last year here. He didn’t trust the line for nothing hence his poor performance but once he got behind the Raiders line which isn’t great btw he wasn’t running scared. I think he act like 4 yards per carry in oak.
Fear is the best motivator but can also be debilitating but wtfdik
September 10th, 2019 at 10:39 pm
Jameis has even lost his swag.
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FACTS!
There’s a lot to that mainly the moral police imo but this is my analogy what if I went to your job and tapped you on the head ALL DAY long how would you perform?
Cam got beat down, not the same cam.
Watson blows my mind, kid should be retired with full disability pension but just keeps making plays. They keep losing but he keeps coming back. Let’s see where he is at the end of the year and into next year.
Wilson plays like he ain’t even got a oline. Amazing.
Winston although sneaky athletic isn’t the same athlete as these 3 QBs. He’s lost his swag bc fml he’s getting pounded every single time he drops back. That has to mess with your head.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:44 pm
If I’m Winston agent I’m installing a mound in his back yard. Either that or trying to find a one way ticket the hell out of Tampa. Not 1 QB has been successful here and the only player that has been successful literally told the fans to kiss his arse. Lol so idk maybe it’s bigger than Jameis Winston or maybe he should be himself the cocky Famous Jameis and tell everybody to suck his crablegs. What’s he got to lose?
September 10th, 2019 at 10:48 pm
Jameis Winston would not be a starter anywhere else in the league barring injuries to current starters. Maybe Buffalo would start him. Getting out of Tampa won’t help him.
People said the same of Josh Freeman. “Oh if we let him go he’ll be picked up and shine on a real team!” Yeah, sureee. That worked out well. And Freeman had more success than Jameis smh
September 10th, 2019 at 10:54 pm
I want to see how the NE fans react to ABs allegations. Maybe they’ll crucify him but I highly doubt it. Yet another difference between real fans and what we have here.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:55 pm
Walk
We get it you’re not a fan. Thank you and gn.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:55 pm
Maybe if I watched the game again, I’d have a different take but I thought JW was given a good amount of time considering the 9ers have a stout front. I think Winston is surprisingly effective when he tucks it. There were several occasions that he could have done that but he ran around in the pocket taking a sack. Nothing about him looks smooth in the pocket whether he has someone breathing down his neck or not. Maybe he is shook right now. Cocky Jameis would be a welcome sight. He needs a little edge to him. He came in here in 2015 with a little lean and threw for 4k yards 22TD’s and 15 picks. The expectation was he’ll get better, cut down on the picks and be a stud. That hasn’t come close to happening. All the good QB’s have had their share of suspect O Lines, bad defenses, and no running game. Nobody had to make excuses for them. ARod has had all 3 the past few years and he’s done just fine.
September 10th, 2019 at 10:59 pm
No one tried to change who they were either. You were here during the draft, after the draft, last year. You heard the fans talking about his character and who he is as a person. His decision making on and off the field etc.
Dude tried to conform and now he’s but a shell of himself. Little to no support on and off the field 🤷🏽♂️
September 10th, 2019 at 11:03 pm
I can’t believe there are still Jameis defenders. I loved him at FSU and was hoping he’d end up being the man. It’s just not going to happen. All of the INTs might not be his fault, but Kwon should have given him #4. It’s not just the turnovers, it’s the indecisiveness in the pocket, the bad throws, and the balls he throws late that allow the defender to recover like on the 4th down play. He just doesn’t read the coverage quick enough, and that sucks for me because I don’t want to go through another rebuild, but that’s what it looks like. I watch these QBs taken in the years after Winston, like Mahomes and Watson, and I just bang my head. How can a team be so bad at evaluating QBs for 43 years?
September 10th, 2019 at 11:33 pm
Jameis has to play out the year.
September 10th, 2019 at 11:34 pm
Walk…nobody said that about Josh freeman. Nobody. Maybe in your circles but nobody on these boards said that. I was a Freeman fanboy. I know.
Nobody. Not one fan was worried about Josh Freeman going elsewhere to shine.
September 10th, 2019 at 11:35 pm
Adrnagy…correct…ding ding ding….we have a winner.
No matter the chatter of Ryan Griffin. LOL Ryan Griffin after week 1.
September 10th, 2019 at 11:39 pm
BuccaneEric75..calm down. It was week 1. (What do you have to lose anyways)
Let the Quarterback Whisperer do his job.
It’s a long season.
September 10th, 2019 at 11:51 pm
I’ll be talking more about oline and RB. No matter who the QB is with the oline and not holding those guy accountable will suck. Bench Dotson , cappa a quarter or a series.
Play more dare versus Peyton in the passing game. I was surprise Jensen didn’t get a penalty.
One thing I don’t understand at all. Licht signed Jensen to establish a tough identity but turns around and gives a massive extension to marshmallow Donovan …
September 10th, 2019 at 11:54 pm
I’m convinced DB55 is Jameis Winston’s mom.
Hi, Mrs. Winston, welcome to JBF!
Sorry that your son sucks, and has proven it for more than 4 years, but you keep trying your little heart out to convince people he’s actually good. (Even, though, nearly every NFL analyst & expert also says he sucks.)
September 11th, 2019 at 12:27 am
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I know people said that of Freeman because I was one of them. I was also a fanboy and desperately wanted to believe his 2010 season was a fluke. He was a very talented guy, just as Jameis. But also like Jameis, he just didn’t have the stuff to do it consistently. As you know I am not a Jameis fanboy. Fool me once…
September 11th, 2019 at 1:19 am
@LaMarcus,
“Wentz stared down Djx on both his yds passes. Where’s the outcry? It’s because it’s what the Qb does”
I’m sure you think you are making a point.
There’s no outcry because they were completed passes. And the other was Wentz, for the 2nd TD, looked left then turned to the right and threw the ball.
He didn’t stare down both TD’s, and there’s nothing wrong with it if there’s a completion.
September 11th, 2019 at 1:27 am
Fromm watch
September 11th, 2019 at 1:44 am
I said this after one of the mustard vs ketchup games I believe in 2016….jabooski is a dumb , slow , how in the F is he considered smart football wise , almost one hit wonder in college no less & has multiple problems reading defences , has multiple problems hitring receivers in stride , has multiple problems with turnovers , has multiple problems eating W’s and last but absolutely not least has multiple problems showing that he’s a 5 year NFL effing veteran 😡 ! I have tried going against my gut instinct for the last 5 years really trying to root for this damn kid because he is the QB of my beloved bucs and every stinking year it’s the same Tihs ! To be perfectly honest I didn’t want either Mariota nor jabooski in 2015 but I didn’t want another year of mcclown or friggen giraffe neck either…I guess I would have built up both trenches and hoped in a year or 2 one of our damn GM’s could have landed or traded up for a Watson or mahomes or something better than what we got on our plate right at the moment.. because what we got on our bucs plate at the moment does not look very appealing all the way around folks..if we were to go all out on a QB and then build around him , by God he better be really good then protect his rump right after that ! This organization did neither…we are a hot mess with jabooski …I call him that because that sounds polish to me , he’s like a bad Pollock joke if you ask me..should have grabbed some really good DE’S that year by trading first pick , should have grabbed some good corners the following , hell maybe Zeke to pound the rock then who knows , maybe mahomes or Goff or some damn thing that looks better then what we have…all 20/20 now right ??? GRRRRRRRR ! GO FRIGGEN BUCS !!!!!!
September 11th, 2019 at 6:12 am
Jameis translation…”It’s not my fault”…..go grab another uber driver. This crapola is toast. Over, done. We just have to wait out this season. Maybe not even the whole season.
September 11th, 2019 at 6:26 am
The offensive play, especially the QB, was not good enough. That’s the story folks. Point to the o-line, TEs, and WRs. Nope not good. QB played the worst. No one is going to convince me that JW couldn’t see that Barber was covered by Sherman on that play and should’ve checked out of it. It was a bad match-up and a play that’s designed to isolate on a LB or vacant. A veteran QB recognizes a bad play and checks it. Go ahead convince me that Barber vs. Sherman on the OUTSIDE is the right play.
Why can’t we just accept that it was poor QB play?
Jameis is our QB and he’s not getting benched for the likes of Ryan effen Griffin! Lets just chalk Sunday’s game up to poor performance on offense and move on.
Just please stop with the excuses already!
September 11th, 2019 at 6:58 am
DB55 Says:
September 10th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
I just want to swap out QBs. Take Winston and put him on the chiefs, eagles, cowboys or Cleveland.
I just want to see what Mahomes can do with Dotson and Cappa blocking for him but again wtfdik.
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you are really revealing your complete ignorance ….but I would love to see your suggestion come true
September 11th, 2019 at 7:09 am
If Sherman was on Barber….some Buc pass catcher had a mismatch and the ball should have gone there…
September 11th, 2019 at 7:09 am
Mr. Winston, you just gotta get smarter. You reached your in ranking of NFL QBs when ranked 25th this past weekend. If ham and egged made the same mistakes over and over for 4 years they would be fired. You do not accept coaching and do your own thing. You have Tom Moore a veritable QB genius with an impeccable reputation yet you throw off your back foot while falling for another pick six. I’m thinking you are un-coachable.
September 11th, 2019 at 7:46 am
From the JW lovers: It’s always someone else’s fault for JWs bad play. However, it was all Fitzpatrick’s fault last year when the D coordinators figured out the other weaknesses of our O.
September 11th, 2019 at 7:48 am
Djax was open!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
go bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2019 at 8:56 am
DB55 Says:
September 10th, 2019 at 10:54 pm
I want to see how the NE fans react to ABs allegations. Maybe they’ll crucify him but I highly doubt it. Yet another difference between real fans and what we have here.
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Plenty of real fans here like the one typing this answer. Putting up with 5 head coaching changes in 12 years. How many spoiled rotten Patsie fans would stand for that?
September 11th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Just read a piece that Mike Tanier wrote for Bleacher Report yesterday entitled “Interception-Plagued Jameis Winston May Finally Be Running Out of Chances”. He absolutely skewered Jameis for his 61 INTs to date. His last para sums it up pretty well …
“Quarterback wins aren’t a real stat. But interceptions are. And when you throw as many as Winston keeps throwing, no matter how high you were drafted, eventually you run out of chances.”
I didn’t know that, as a percentage, Jameis is the NFL poster boy for INTs (3.1% of attempts). Even Eli Manning (3.0%), Blake Bortles (2.8%), Matt Schuab (2.7%) and Ryan Tannehill (2.6) are the next in-line. That’s not good.
September 11th, 2019 at 8:59 am
Sure wish Fameis would go back to being fearless like he was in his Rookie season. 🙁
September 11th, 2019 at 3:03 pm
Here is the facts.. Most of you want to live in an either/or world. In truth, this is an AND situation.
The receivers weren’t open. Many times multiple receivers ran the same route to the same area. I’m thinking there is more option routes and guys aren’t reading each other well. This was truly disturbing watching the all-22
AND
Winston has to play better. The last INT was inexcusable at any level of football. No clue what he was thinking. Ball has to be spiked into the turf at the feet of the lineman. Maybe afraid of a second intentional grounding (that was a weak call) My guess is Winston is afraid of the rush so much that he is now seeing ghosts of DLineman coming at him.
AND
The coaches must put together a better game plan
AND
The Oline needs to pass block as well as it run blocked in the last game.