“We Gotta Get It Rollin’ Early”
September 6th, 2019
Donovan Smith was talking today and he had a firm message for Buccaneers fans still in shock from the offensive line play seen two weeks ago against the Cleveland Browns.
You ready for this, Bucs fans?
Smith said those 30 minutes of a butt-kicking delivered to America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, is not something to freak out about.
“It’s preseason,” Smith said with a smile in his voice on WDAE-AM.
“Preseason, that’s what it’s for. You know, you try things. You try new things; you see what works, you see what doesn’t. Obviously, we got to play better in general.”
Yeah, the whole “preseason” line made Joe bristle. Why? Quarterbacks get maimed in preseason. Regardless, Joe’s over it. Smith went on to say the Bucs and the O-line are feeling the urgency of opening day. “We gotta get it rollin’ early.”
Smith also repeated what he’s said previously, which is that Bruce Arians is such a straight-shooter it really stands out and nobody is spared. He added that “we feed off the fans” and opening at home is the ideal situation, so he encourages to come loud and proud Sunday at the Den of Depression.
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September 6th, 2019 at 3:04 pm
the O-LINE and Jameis bout to get steamrolled into the grass come this sunday
September 6th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
Bucs are better off having assistant coaches place blocking dummies in position during huddle than rolling out that group of feces….
September 6th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
…..and Donovan Smith did say it right
…….he’ll get rolling again as the human Turn-Style he is………….overpaid useless Tackle
September 6th, 2019 at 3:18 pm
You two clowns are such fun! That’s sarcasm by the way.
September 6th, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Jameis needs insurance
September 6th, 2019 at 3:25 pm
lets get it!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!
September 6th, 2019 at 3:25 pm
Jameis needs a new LT
September 6th, 2019 at 3:26 pm
I’m starting to think that perhaps we shouldn’t even play the game…..simply have the concert……for Anthem & T****x……but, it’s Tim McGraw instead of Justin Bieber….so they wouldn’t enjoy it.
September 6th, 2019 at 3:29 pm
To follow-up on a stat from yesterday… When the Bucs give up 20 points or less in a game that Winston starts, he’s 14-4…
So defense gives up 20 or less
W – 2015 @NOR, 26-19 1-0
L – 2015 @HOU, 9-19 1-1
W – 2015 @ATL, 23-20 2-1
W – 2015 DAL, 10-6 3-1
W – 2015 @PHI, 45-17 4-1
W – 2015 ATL, 23-19 5-1
W – 2016 @CAR, 17-14 6-1
W – 2016 CHI, 36-10 7-1
W – 2016 @KAN, 19-17 8-1
W – 2016 SEA, 14-5 9-1
W – 2016 NOR, 16-11 10-1
W – 2016 CAR, 17-16 11-1
W – 2017 CHI, 29-7 12-1
L – 2017 NWE, 14-19 12-2
L – 2017 CAR, 3-17 12-3
W – 2018 SFO, 27-9 13-3
W – 2018 CAR, 24-17 14-3
L – 2018 @BAL, 12-20 14-4
Notice Winston has had a defense give up 20 or less just 6 times total in the last two season. Now compare that to another NFC QB, Drew Brees, where his defense has given up 20 or less 18 times in the last two seasons.
Also since Brees is one of the best evers, lets compare Winston to someone more in his league like Jared Goff. In the last two years Goff has had 17 games where the defense has allowed 20 or less (again Winston has had 6 in that time) and is 14-3. Winston, in 18 career games, is 14-4.
People who think Winston is the problem are dopes.
September 6th, 2019 at 3:35 pm
Grrrr..facts..Grrrrr
September 6th, 2019 at 3:39 pm
@ Rod Munch
STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!!!!!!!……….(thanks raheem morris) ^
September 6th, 2019 at 3:41 pm
@ Rod
That is very revealing…..also, you throw in a poor kicking game and weak ST and it is a prescription for losing.
September 6th, 2019 at 3:42 pm
Jameis is not in the same category as Goff lmao … please
September 6th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Rod – an inconvenient set of facts for the Winston haters. I will grab some popcorn and wait for the negativity! Cheers and have a great weekend! Go Bucs!
September 6th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Goff was in the super bowl last year …. Goff wins games … Goff rarely turns the ball over … Goff does not fumble the ball
September 6th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
@Rod Munch
If we gave up 25 PPG last year we’d have been 10-6 lol.
That’s how many times we scored 26+ points in 2018.
This defense has absolutely been the problem with this team and it’s not even close. No one wins with a bottom 1-5 defense in the NFL even in the “modern era”. Every year defense repeatedly wins championships. Look it up.
GO BUCS!
September 6th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
Goff over 9,500 passing yards in 3 years 65 TDS 26 INTs … I don’t think jameis is in that league …. uhhh no I don’t try again
September 6th, 2019 at 3:48 pm
Goff 24-8 last 2 seasons also … so let’s not praise jameis until he’s in the elite group like Goff is
September 6th, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Just win baby
September 6th, 2019 at 3:51 pm
Have a feeling it’s going to be a low scoring punt fest. We will see improvement from the defense and fans will be questioning Lefty’s play calling afterwards.
September 6th, 2019 at 3:53 pm
Poor Ben doesn’t understand that 22 guys play the game, not just 1.
Maybe after this season he’ll start to understand… but I won’t hold by breath
September 6th, 2019 at 3:53 pm
*my breath
September 6th, 2019 at 3:56 pm
Ben understands that jameis had some decent protection last year and the year before and couldn’t win games and Ben also understands that jameis in those past 2 years turned the ball over with 3 very good receivers
September 6th, 2019 at 4:01 pm
Ben also understands that regardless of your defense great qbs can win games in this league … I can name em for you … drew brees , Tom Brady , Andrew luck, didn’t baker mayfield won games for the brownies last year … that defense started good but was bad towards the end … anyways there is no excuses now … can’t say defense this and O-line that … actually that will be the excuse anyways after this season is the O-line … but anyways… this is a make or break year for your quarterback… he better be as good as you guys make him out to be
September 6th, 2019 at 4:04 pm
Jared Goff is an overrated system QB who chokes when he has to actually face pressure or play super tight defenses. See the Super Bowl for example.
I watched Goff highlights from 2018 and I had to stop 5 minutes in because I saw more play designs for wide open WRs and wide open easy TD passes than I saw the entire last 4 years with the Bucs.
Seriously. Tons of plays where the WR was open by 5-10 yards. Tons of plays where in the red zone it was the easiest pitch / catch possible to an open guy because of well run rub routes / quick out routes / quick WR screens / etc that some of us here have been pounding the table to see in the red zone only to be disappointed year after year.
The Jared Goff you saw with Jeff Fishcer is what he’d have continued looking like if he went to the Bucs. You know the guy who passed for 54% / 5 TDs / 7 INTs and looked completely in over his head.
Coaching matters a freaking f*ck ton. Guys like Jared Goff prove it.
GO BUCS!
September 6th, 2019 at 4:06 pm
Now don’t get it twisted … I’m hoping jameis has a MVP type year … I hope he’s the franchise QB we have been waiting for … but it’s not happening… a tiger won’t change its stripes and a QB who has been turning the ball over left and right and can’t throw a deep ball consistently never changes his approach
September 6th, 2019 at 4:14 pm
“I can name em for you … drew brees, Tom Brady , Andrew luck”
lmao you should just stop now dude.
1. Drew Brees was a loser for 3 years when his defense sucked. Did you just start watching football the last couple seasons?
2. Tom Brady consistently has top 5-10 scoring defenses every year. Did you watch the Pats defense in the super bowl last year?
3. Andrew Luck also proves the same point. His defenses were at least pretty average his first 3 years (21st / 9th / 19th in scoring). He also played in the worst division in football and was considered the God-Platinum-Standard of QB play in terms of the highest bar you can set of expectations.
Go look up every super bowl winner of the last 10 years and how good their scoring defense is, and then come back and tell me it doesn’t matter and it’s just a QB driven league.
GO BUCS!
September 6th, 2019 at 4:18 pm
Joe are you ok there snowflake? lol
September 6th, 2019 at 4:20 pm
Facts ^^^
No 1 position can win games all by themselves. its idiotic to think otherwise. Jameis has had nothing positive to work with except good Wrs. Bad run game, bad Special teams and bad coaching. NOBODY can win with that.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:20 pm
Rod Munch is right you know
September 6th, 2019 at 4:22 pm
And a god awful defense.. to add to that list.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:29 pm
The great thing about this year and our new coaching staff…If an offensive lineman (or any position for that matter) isn’t good enough, he’ll be replaced in the lineup. Seeing Washington get guys off the street last year that played better than our starter, that’s when frustration sets in.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:35 pm
I nearly drove off the road when he said that.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:40 pm
The Bears considered a playoff contender, and the Packers always a playoff contender with Rodgers, didn’t exactly set offensive records last night. Both Q.B.’s took numerous sacks, and hits, often running for their lives. Smart teams invest in their D lines, and with no more double team, and cut blocks, Q.B.’s seem to be under siege in the NFL these days. Not to mention all the blitzing. The Pats have stayed ahead of the curve with the quick passing game, and dump off to their backs. Notice they don’t have a Mike Evans, or Antonio Brown type receiver. So far Belichick seems to be the only coach who gets how to beat todays talented NFL defenses. Take the four yard gains, and forget about trying for the 40 yard bomb. That is if you want your Q.B. to play into his 40’s like Brady.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Does Donovan mean get it rollin early like getting to the bank to cash your game check before the Bucs figure out you SUCK and don’t deserve the loot you just stole?? Do t worry DS Jason Gump is to dumb and fat to figure it out.
September 6th, 2019 at 4:53 pm
Rod that’s some beautiful research there my friend. Another stat that blew my mind is that since the start of 2017, there have only been 4 quarterbacks to throw for 300+ yards at least 10 times. Goff has 13, Matt Ryan and Roethlesberger both have 12; Jameis has 11. Goff started 32 games in that span, Ryan and Big Ben both 31. Winston only started 22 games. So, that means he’s throwing for 300+ yards at a 50% clip over the last two years, making him the only QB in league to do so.
Granted, a porous defense will have you playing from behind like we’ve all seen, so that type of stat will surely be diminished if they start getting stubborn and only allowing 20 or less points like you pointed out. But it’s very telling… Anyways, good stuff man. Can’t wait for sunday.
September 6th, 2019 at 5:17 pm
Rod’s stats, as well as LC’s concerning last season, are beauties. Give the kid a decent to good defense, we win often.
September 6th, 2019 at 5:55 pm
Nick Bosa is listed as “questionable”, which of course means that he’ll have an All Pro, All World, Hall of Fame day against the O-line. Just weather the storm, keep working, and the Bucs should have the win!
September 6th, 2019 at 5:57 pm
I agree with RM. If the Bucs win it will be because of good defense. I don’t the SF crappybayers will score more than 13 points. I believe the Bucs will come out thumping. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a couple personal fouls for laying the wood to their receivers. On the other side I’d like to see some zone blocking against that SF D line. I’m sure every national dork is picking the 49’rs but I like our chances.
Bucs 27-13
September 6th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
So Ben Real clueless, did you happen to forget that Goff was being coached by the coach of the year, was playing with one of the best two running backs in the league and was also playing with hands down the best defensive player in the league? Yeah think that might help a little with winning games? Dude try having an idea what you are talking about before running your mouth.
September 6th, 2019 at 6:19 pm
Ndog how many times do I have to hit you on the nose with a newspaper before you stop peeing in the hose?
September 6th, 2019 at 6:55 pm
So Bucs going to playoffs if Goff Bucs QB last year?
September 6th, 2019 at 7:38 pm
Sounds like the fans are over the OL play from that one half. Like 2 comments about the OL and the rest about the QB.
That is a cool stat Rod Munch. If I wanted to rain on you parade I would tell you that Winston is 3-3 in those games in the last 2 season & I would tell you that it isn’t good enough……not even close. But I will not do that. We are too close to the season for that nonsense.
September 6th, 2019 at 7:43 pm
@Lord C … “This defense has absolutely been the problem with this team and it’s not even close.” That’s a very true statement LC, but fans need to look BEHIND THE DOOR to figure out WHY. Bucs put their money into the offense, and shortchanged the defense. Can’t be complaining later when the defense performs poorly because it got exposed from lack of depth when the injury bug struck. And struck big time last year as we both know.
September 6th, 2019 at 7:51 pm
@PriMech54 … “Granted, a porous defense will have you playing from behind like we’ve all seen”. Very true PriMech, but so will an offense that starts slow, and we’ve seen that far too often.
September 6th, 2019 at 8:59 pm
Patriots just released center Russell Bodine who they’d acquired from the Bills recently. He spent 4 years as the Bengals starting center before going to the Bills last year (started 10 games), then was traded to the Pats just last week for a 6th Rnd pick (Bills starting center returned from IR apparently). Patriots re-signed their backup center who they’d let go earlier which made Bodine expendable. Gotta love it.
Since Jensen has played Guard before, Bucs might want to look at Bodine as a possible center backup for now. Right now we’ve got no backup center on our active roster, but do have Trewyn on the PS. Pats were paying him $1.9 mil it sounds like. That’s cheap for a guy with 4 years starting OLine experience IMO.
September 6th, 2019 at 9:21 pm
Rod Munch, way up the list in the thread, spot on assessment
Anybody watch the game last night?
Early in the season, unless you are the Saints – Defense Rules
Our D is the most key critical element this year, JW and the O is a distant #2…they will produce more than 20 pts a game 14 out of 16 games without a doubt
What will our D hold the opponents too?????
September 6th, 2019 at 9:23 pm
“Tampabaybucfan Says: That is very revealing…..also, you throw in a poor kicking
game and weak ST and it is a prescription for losing.”
That’s a good point.
Take a look at the 4 loses.
2015 @ Houston, Kyle Brindza is 1/4 on FGs.
2017 Patriots, Nick Folk is 0/3 on FGs
You could easily flip both of those games to wins with good kicking and Winston would be 16-2 – which is, I believe, is the same record as Brees over that same span of games with the d giving up 20 or less.
Also last year, 2018 @ Baltimore, that’s the game where Chris Godwin was dropping everything, and the Bucs defense could not get off the field in the 2nd half and the Ravens just ran the clock out. I don’t think you can flip that to a W by any means, but that loss was not on Winston.
The only game on that list where Winston wasn’t any good was the Carolina loss in 2017.
September 6th, 2019 at 9:30 pm
Defense Rules don’t forget that Ali Marpet has a full year of experience as a C too. Not sure what the Bucs think but he might be our backup Center. If they are looking to add somebody to the OL it might be at the Guard position because of that.
September 6th, 2019 at 9:38 pm
I believe. Please make playoffs. Getting harder and harder to keep my kids a fan.
September 6th, 2019 at 10:05 pm
JimmyJack … I can’t even imagine what our OLine would be like if we moved Marpet back to center. He’s the most consistent blocker on the OLine IMO. You’re right, we need another guard, but if I remember correctly, Jensen played mostly guard until the Ravens moved him to center his last year there. Bodine has 5 years of center experience and it sounds like he played pretty well there. Worth a look-see IMO.
September 6th, 2019 at 10:13 pm
DR
At some point you have to come to the realization that we care more about the team that’s licht and the glazers. Meaning ain’t nothing going to happen to improve the team or the line.
September 6th, 2019 at 10:17 pm
Well the QB/C relationship is probably something you don’t wanna mess with. Moving Jensen to G might affect a lot more that goes unnoticed.
And yeah let’s not try to imagine what our line would look like if we did put Marpet at C. Just wanted to mention that he does have experience at C so it’s not like we have no options on the active roster behind Jensen.
Cappa could go a long way to give us a little faith at Guard if he can hold his own on Sunday. The arrow is pointing down right now but that Cleveland game will very quickly be forgotten about if he plays well on Sunday. I’m not ready to write him off like so many seem to have already.
September 6th, 2019 at 10:19 pm
Ndog how many times do I have to hit you on the nose with a newspaper before you stop peeing in the hose?
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You probably need to shove his nose in it….after you wipe JW’s butt juice!
September 6th, 2019 at 10:22 pm
DB55……We already traded last week for a tackle and I read on another page that we brought in a couple more OL today for tryouts. So what in the heck are you talking about?
September 6th, 2019 at 10:33 pm
JimmyJack … Our OLine is NOT a team strength at this moment in time. We have negligible depth IMO, and our starting 5 haven’t exactly set the world on fire. Bucs need to be looking at every single OLineman who’s available starting now to at least beef up our depth. These guys have not played well against strong DLines especially, and we’ll be seeing a bunch of those this year.
September 6th, 2019 at 10:57 pm
Defense Rules……..Like I said above somebody posted on the next article that brought in a couple OL for tryouts today so they are working on the depth.
Also think a scenario that makes a lot of sense is to head into the season with our guys and ideally get yourself into a position to make a serious run for the playoffs. If you manage to do that & your OL is still a weakness then you make a move at the trade deadline to upgrade a starting position. Likely either RG or RT. But your not going to trade away draft capitol for a under .500 team……..Even that scenario might be hard to play out because this team aren’t winning no Super Bowls(I take that back) this year so that limits the guys you would consider trading for so it might be tough to find the right fit.
Either way if OL is indeed our biggest issue this year I will see that as a good thing. That means they got our defense back to respectability which was the goal of our off-season.
September 6th, 2019 at 11:09 pm
DR
Et tu?
DB55 Says:
August 31st, 2019 at 3:40 pm
this is what you have been waiting for.
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False news.
#Steelers trade OL Jerald Hawkins to #Buccaneers. Tampa also gets a 2021 7th round pick. Steelers get 2020 6th rounder. Fred Johnson and Zack Banner both out played Hawkins who was a disappointment as 4th Rounder few years ago.
Bob Pompeani @kdpomp
But hey wtfdik
September 6th, 2019 at 11:13 pm
We traded a 6th round pick for a 3rd string guard with 1 start in 3 years?
SB here we come!!!
RUN JAMEIS RUN
September 6th, 2019 at 11:40 pm
DB55 It sounds to me like you are expecting too much from roster cutdown & waiver claims week.
It also sounds like you are talking out of both sides of you ass because you initially responded to DR who was talking about a backup Center…….a guy who was third stringer in New England and you said we would do nothing. When I mention the trade of Hawkins now you complain he’s a third stringer? Meanwhile we probably aren’t even looking for Centers and probably need Guards & tackles more.
Sounds to me like nothing would please you & you are just complain for the sake of complain. Which youre a Buc fan so it’s understandable. But really…..what the heck are you talking about?
September 6th, 2019 at 11:42 pm
BTW we also signed a kick returner too. A guy who will immediately contribute. The notion that the Bucs aren’t trying or will do nothing is really kinda silly.
September 7th, 2019 at 4:38 am
Stats ruin some “fan’s facts” just let them think jw n the oline is garbage some ppl will be eating crow one way or the other. If we’re wrong will it crow, if tmax n the other fack fans ( yes i spelled fake that way on purpose) r wrong somehow they’ll twist it in their own twisted minds that they were right cuz well theyre fack fans SMMFH 🤷♂️🤦♂️💯😂🙄
September 7th, 2019 at 5:45 am
D Smith was a horrible waste of cash , he is just an average left tackle , and that is on his best day. A good GM (which LICHT BRAIN is not) sees the Donald Penn release coming and saves a bunch to allocate elsewhere and gets a huge upgrade.
September 7th, 2019 at 9:43 am
@Rod, Thank you for those facts. Very interesting