JoeBucsFan.com Predicts A 7-9 Finish
September 2nd, 2019
It’s the time of year when Joe marches to the keyboard and feels compelled to answer the question constantly lobbed at Joe: “How do you think the Bucs will do this season?”
Since 2013 kicked off, Tampa Bay’s record through the halfway mark of each season has been a cumulative 12-36. That covers three head coaches, two general managers and about a dozen smashed remote controls at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters.
By the numbers it looks like this: 0-8, 1-7, 3-5, 3-5 , 2-6 and 3-5.
Throw in the fact that the Bucs haven’t had a winning home record in a season since Jon Gruden was head coach, and that’s the definition of a losing culture completely infecting an organization.
For new head coach Bucco Bruce Arians, that’s an awful lot of history to overcome in one season with a roster loaded with inexperienced defensive players and an inconsistent starting quarterback learning a new system, along with a brutal early schedule overloaded with road games.
Does Joe think the Bucs will avoid a losing record in the first half of this season?
No.
It sickens Joe to type that, but Joe isn’t about to start conning fans with phony rainbows and pewter lollipops.
Yes, Joe thinks the Bucs will improve as the season progresses. Yes, Joe thinks the offense is talented enough to win shootout games. Yes, Joe could see the Bucs winning four out of their last five games and maybe even notching an 8-8 record. But for a pure prediction, Joe sees the Bucs finishing 7-9 this season.
Joe studies the Bucs’ trenches, running backs and secondary and sees depth and talent issues that feel worse than many teams’. Sadly, Arians and Jason Licht likely need another offseason to fortify the roster — after plucking more weeds from this one.
Arians has said he’s not rebuilding, he’s reloading. That’s a fun sound bite, but Joe is seeing more of a rebuild than a reload.
A lot of fans might look at Arians finishing 7-9 this season as another disgraceful losing campaign. But the reality is that 7-9 would mean the Bucs improved significantly and beat several quality opponents on their tough schedule.
Cleveland won seven games last season and managed to win over the nation with a true-reload type offseason. The Falcons won seven and look completely reloaded, with key players back from injuries and massive offseason investments on their offensive line for a team that scored 26 points a game last season. A few years ago, the Eagles went 7-9 and won the Super Bowl the following year.
Seven wins doesn’t have to be a death sentence. It can be a positive step. And that’s what Joe predicts will happen in 2019.
It’ll be painful at times, but try to enjoy it.
As always, Joe hopes beyond hope that the Bucs win every darn game. First, Joe is a Bucs fan. Second — and this is for the clueless crowd who thinks Joe somehow financially benefits from the Bucs losing — winning is the ultimate fuel for business on these pages. Nothing energizes fans like Ws.
September 2nd, 2019 at 5:29 am
6-10
We still have no pass rush, no starting RB, O line is mediocre and an unproven QB. Don’t mention the most brutal schedule in the NFL this year.
one day we’ll draft a good DE.
September 2nd, 2019 at 5:36 am
I happen to agree with your prediction and I will try to adopt your positive attitude regarding a losing record.
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:01 am
8-8 or 9-7 if the Bucs coaching staff can find ways to design plays to compensate for a weak O-line. Winston is going to take a lot of sacks this year and the running game is going to struggle, but I think defense will be much improved and we will finally have a kicker.
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:22 am
Do you think BA and TB gives a sh!t what you or anyone predicts?
No or no?
Grow a set of optimistic balls.
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:28 am
I think 7-9 is a painful but reasonable prediction….and I applaud JBF for it’s realism & honesty there.
Being he optimist, my prediction is 8-8 which would be a significant improvement from the last two years.
I just think it will take BA & Co. 2 years to get us completely turned around.
I don’t think teams will be itching to play us….
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:38 am
Well, I’ve been a Bucs fan since the days of Houlihan’s Stadium so CLEARLY I’m in this for the long haul (I don’t say that because I believe its virtuous; if anything, it points to some mental defect).
I can accept a 7-9 record as long as the games are COMPETITIVE. The Bucs were just giving away wins to their opponents the last few years.
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:57 am
Either way! Its bad enough when you have a losing culture over decades. I think vegas line for total wins is 6.5 for Bucs.. besides the screw job NfL did to the team schedule for the first 4 weeks.. other games can be a toss up!
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:01 am
Todd
No optimistic balls will magically be discovered. Being negative, like being depressed in ones life, is the easiest route to take for many people. Before the game is even played, we’ve already lost- just ask the “predictors”. Actually, you’re the one being negative considering a 2-game improvement for a new coaching staff that’s rebuilding to be some sort of brutally negative prediction.–Joe
Why even watch the games? Just take your kids to the beach and holler at them all day for having too much fun. For not being pouters and whiners, like their negative Buc fan daddies.
These same folks had us going 0-3 to start last year. In reality, there was as a divide at JoeBucsFan.com world headquarters. One Joe felt 0-3, one Joe was very clear saying the Bucs would beat the Saints in the SuperDome and explained why, Ira Kaufman was adamant that Ryan Fitzpatrick would at least win one game before Jameis Winston would return in Week 4 … Sad that you have to make things up. –Joe. When we didn’t, then they switched to”we’ll just wait- Fitz will fall on his face.” I guess they feel if they stay negative long enough, eventually they’ll be proven right. What a sh!t way to live life.
It’s almost like the climate alarmists. Move the goalposts and you can always be right.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:01 am
7-9 means improvement its better than 5-11 but only by 2 games I think I have to agree with 7-9 or 8-8 but I want them to #endthedrought
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:20 am
Exceptional piece Joe. Good to hear someone else acknowledge that we’re rebuilding not just ‘reloading’. Rebuilds take time IMO because it’s not just changing players that’s involved. Changing the mindset and ‘losing culture’ is also necessary. In the Bucs’ case that’s a huge challenge.
Our division is simply loaded. Having to play those other 3 teams twice each year is a beast. HOPEFULLY we can hold our own this year and go 3-3 in the NFC South, but that’s a big ask. But it’ll also be the key IMO to our final record. IF we break even in our division, we’ve got an excellent chance to break even on the season. IF we go 4-2 or better, we have a great chance to go 9-7 or maybe even 10-6. But IF we go 2-4 or worse, it’d be very unlikely IMO that we’d do better than 6-10. Only time will tell.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:31 am
Very fair prediction. I think it’ll come down to injuries. Both on our team and within the division. I can see a record as bad as 4-12 and as good as 9-7. Lot’s of variables this season including the new coaching staff and how quickly they can get these guys to “buy in”. I’m just glad real football is finally here.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:37 am
Let’s see how optimistic you are. I’ll bet you $100 the Bucs don’t make the playoffs.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:37 am
I have consistently predicted 6-10 for most of the same reasons you listed out here. Quite frankly, they still have the least talented roster in the division. The only thing I disagree with on your article is that whether it’s 6-10 or 7-9, we’re still talking about a loser.
There are too many gullible fans out there who only get their news from Buccaneers.com, drink the kool-aid every year, talk about nonsense like having “faith” in the team, were “Totally Confident” in the GM or the coach, but none of that means anything in the grand scheme of things. Fans can’t will their team to wins by having faith and hope.
This team has been bad for a long time and it’s not Lovie Smith’s fault or Dirk Koetter’s fault. Noah Spence getting cut and not having any team make a claim on him via the waiver wire should tell you all you need to know about why this team has sucked for so long. The good ol’ backstabber has overestimated this team, much like many of you. 7-9 is not a step in the right direction. It’s a dismal season. It’s the difference between pooping diarrhea vs. being regular on the throne. Both are still sh***.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:38 am
I have consistently predicted 6-10 for most of the same reasons you listed out here. Quite frankly, they still have the least talented roster in the division. The only thing I disagree with on your article is that whether it’s 6-10 or 7-9, we’re still talking about a loser.
There are too many gullible fans out there who only get their news from Buccaneers.com, drink the kool-aid every year, talk about nonsense like having “faith” in the team, were “Totally Confident” in the GM or the coach, but none of that means anything in the grand scheme of things. Fans can’t will their team to wins by having faith and hope.
This team has been bad for a long time and it’s not Lovie Smith’s fault or Dirk Koetter’s fault. Noah Spence getting cut and not having any team make a claim on him via the waiver wire should tell you all you need to know about why this team has sucked for so long. The good ol’ backstabber has overestimated this team, much like many of you. 7-9 is not a step in the right direction. It’s a dismal season. It’s the difference between pooping diarrhea vs. being regular on the throne. Both are still crap.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:45 am
Licht needs a 7th offseason to put together a winning team?…..This team is perpetually in a state of selling hope with not chance at producing results. We aren’t even talking a playoff berth….just an 8-8 or 9-7 season and that’s still a year or 5 away.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:49 am
This is the year the Bucs can finally break that 5-11 curse and get over that hump. I predict the Bucs going 6-10 this year. Still way too many holes in the trenches that hasn’t even been starting to get addressed yet. Licht has this team so half-arsed backwards.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:49 am
You really took that one to heart Joe. Wasn’t really aimed at you, more along the lines of the constant cryby posts by my fellow “fans.”
And you won’t get much negativity out of me. I actually realize this is entertainment. I used to live and die with wins and losses, then I grew up and realized that three hours on Sunday wasn’t worth being pissed off all week.
I love the game, but not enough to call another grown man who made it to the pros “garbage.” I love my team. Have spent thousands of dollars to go to games. Had many hangovers on mondays. Win or lose- back to work on Monday.
So since we’re making predictions- I say 10-6.4-2 in division. How’s that for negative?
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:52 am
Rome
I don’t gamble. Save for the occasional 500 mil office pool. Only fools gamble away their hard earned (or govt freebie) money.
That being said, I will bet you $1000 I have more fun watching football this season than you.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:53 am
And I’ll drink more beer than you.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:57 am
I was hoping for a 9-7 or even 10-6 with the way BA was talking early in camp. But with the way both our lines are looking it’s hard to see us with a winning record. We never addressed right guard, which obviously Cappa isn’t ready to be a starter. And how can we be excited about our pass rush when Noah Spence, who had been starting all preseason, and receiving accolades from the coaches was waived during final cuts??? Where is our pass rush going to come from? JPP is out and who is going to rotate with Nissib and Barrett? I’m still waiting for these late additions that BA was talking about…We can’t expect pass rush to always come from blitzing LBs, which will leave our young secondary in bad stops. Please give me some hope by acquiring a RG and a pass rusher from somewhere. I dont want to here that we have no money! Cloney was traded from the Texans to the Seahawks for only a 3rd round draft pick and the Texans paid half his salary ($7mil). We can find a few million dollars to obtain a impact play on either side of the ball if we truly want to win.
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:57 am
I agree, 7-9 is where I also see this team ending the season.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:00 am
8-8 with many competitive losses and poised for a real run in 2020!
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:01 am
I am simply encouraged of how much better our defense looks overall……that should equate to atleast two more wins………….maybe
but the problem is still at QB, RB, and O-LINE depth and talent.
The defense will be fine but not so much for our offense.
7-9 or 5-11 is my prediction range.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:05 am
I see it a little different. I think our play will be sloppy in the beginning but I can still see a 3-0 start. I think the coaching will squeeze out those tough games with great game planning. 11-5 is the ceiling but they won’t be worse than 8-8 or 9-7. I happen to think the division and the NFC have taken a step back. 9-7 may win the division this season. I personally think we go 10-6 and make the playoffs but no playoff win.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:07 am
I used to be optimistic and then the Bucs went 0-14.
I used to be optimistic and then they refused to sign their “black QB” the same year as Tampa hosted it’s 1st Super Bowl.
I used to be optimistic and then Gump traded the best RB in college football history for 2 practice squad guys.
I can go on for hours with this rant but let me wrap it up here.
I used to be optimistic until they extended the Gumpster Fire for 5 years.
God, please help the Bahama’s and Buc fans. I don’t know who needs more help.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:09 am
@ Jason S. Mclaurin
………….mannnnnnnnnn
……………..gimme sum or wut ur smokin smokey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:26 am
It’s only @Joe’s prediction people, don’t get all worked up over it. Let’s be honest, it’s just his hunch, I mean there’s nothing scientific going into it, no matter the “studying”. It’s his fan’s opinion.
The ball could easily bounce this way versus that way a few times against division opponents, Breed or Newton or Ryan could go down for awhile greatly affecting our division, the turnover margin could trend in the right direction. We could….theoretically go anywhere from 9-7 to 5-11 based on those things.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:28 am
In my opinion, 8-8 Seems doable, and hopefully something substantive goes wrong or in our favor rather in our division.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:32 am
I didn’t bet you, I bet Todd.
Oh, wait a minute. you must be “Todd’s” sock-puppet account! Let me guess, you fire up the VPN and make comments just to agree with yourself. LOL, how cute! It must be very exhausting trying to keep track of who you logged in as.
You just said you don’t gamble. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Besides, it’s probably not true. I’ll end up going to a few Bucs games this year and in my travels over the next few months I’ll be visiting other stadiums as well. It’s going to be a fun-filled football season for me.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:34 am
16-0! My wife says I have a “screw loose!” She’s right of course.
Realistically, this is more an 8-8 team than anything. The reason for the muted optimism is that this defense already looks light years ahead of the past two seasons. Most of all it looks aggressive. If there is one thing that drives me nuts watching football, it’s passivity. Football is supposed to be an aggressive, hard-hitting sport. The Bucs have been anything but that for a long, long time.
When I tune in to watch this year, I expect us to be much more competitive. We have offensive weapons and I really think we’ll surprise a few teams with this defense. Add in a better kicker and improved coaching, yeah, we can go 8-8/9-7. We are relying on far too many young players and they WILL make mistakes. If we’re making mistakes while being aggressive, I can live with that.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:02 am
I hate to be so pessimistic, but my gut tells me 5-11….another last place NFC South division finish….another top 5 Draft pick in April….and a new HC, GM and QB in 2020.
Much as I like Bruce Arians, I just don’t see the talent on this team for him to shape a winner. The Jason Licht era needs to end….he is not a good enough talent evaluator.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:08 am
Well said, Joe.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:12 am
Prediction: Three Pete 5-11. Clean house and get a real QB.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:19 am
Todd, stop asking people to LIE. It’s not cool and some of us were raised better.
This is a crappy team that was put together by a crappy GM.
6-10 is the max this team is capable. More storms than rainbows.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:19 am
We head into week 17 with a home game vs division foe Atlanta Falcons. The Bucs boast a roller coaster 8-7 record and are playing for a possible wild card spot if they win and get a little help for a tie breaker to end their post season drought.
The Falcons lead 16-14 with 1:43 remaining and the Bucs offense takes the field for a last ditch effort at their own 33 yard line and no time outs. The drive stalls at the 50 yard line as the Bucs face a 4th and. 12 after a Winston sack. The Bucs put their post season hopes on the leg of Matt Gay who lines up for a 67 yard game winning FG attempt. A boom is heard as Gay puts foot into leather. The crowd and team hold its breath for what seems like an eternity as the ball soars closer to the uprights. And it’s good with room to spare! Bucs win! Bucs win! Bucs win!.
Then I woke up and made some coffee. Good morning.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:22 am
I think 8/8 would be a huge victory. But really we were only a few missed kicks from a winning record
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:25 am
The Defense is faster and the scheme is better.
The kicker is better.
Offense still has alot of weapons.
It comes down to Jameis-
Will he absorb the coaching and avoid turnovers?
If yes, Bucs win, if not , another losing season and new qb next year.
I’m betting on Jameis.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:28 am
I posted a comment prior to 8:28 am which was somehow held up it appears in that WordPress catastrophe, I suspect cause I included a certain guy’s name here? If that’s actually the case, because there was absolutely nothing else objectionable in the comment, not if that was plugged in to WordPress to grab that keyword, man…is that a nervous habit.
Post my comment. It’s been an hour.
9-7 here we come in 2019!!
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:28 am
6-10. It will take more than one year to clean out the crap of the last ten. Glazers stay away from BA and let him do whatever he wants. You are failures as ownership, and this former season ticket holder won’t be duped with false hope and pewter lollipops.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:28 am
We all hate being pessimistic. No Bucs fan is rooting for the team to lose as some of the mouth breathers around here think.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:30 am
Unless some of the teams they play turn out to be much worse than expected, 5 or 6 wins seems like the target. That is assuming that Winston stays healthy. As we look at the Bucs’ schedule, other teams’ fans are looking at their own. They all see the Bucs on the schedule and count it as a likely win.
And on top of all that, we still have the worst uniforms in professional sports.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:36 am
Jeagan1999 Says:
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:02 am
I hate to be so pessimistic, but my gut tells me 5-11….another last place NFC South division finish….another top 5 Draft pick in April….and a new HC, GM and QB in 2020.
Much as I like Bruce Arians, I just don’t see the talent on this team for him to shape a winner. The Jason Licht era needs to end….he is not a good enough talent evaluator.
See comments like this are what I love. So you mean to tell me Mike Evans, Godwin, Howard, Brate, Marpet, Jameis, ROJO, Perriman, and Arains himself are not talented enough to produce on offense? Or Suh, Vea, David, White, Barrett, Nasib, 5 corners drafted in the second round or higher, 3 safeties drafted fairly high while looking good and Todd Bowles are not talented enough?
Granted the Oline looks weak which could really hurt us but to say this team is not talented is just ridiculous.
Now for my predictions:
People will not run the ball on us like the past and there is one main reason Suh in McCoy out. One jumps gap and tries to use speed and quickness while the other does his job by taking up space and not giving an inch. This then forces the play outside where our speed comes into play with LVD, White, and Buccannon. You see we will actually have guys playing a system TOGETHER not simply looking out for themselves.
On offense we will have way more balance just due to a commitment from the coaching staff. We will not constantly be in 3rd and 13 which means the defense has to play more honest.
For the record I have us a 9-7 for the year with wins coming in this fashion:
49ers
Giants
Panthers n London
Titans
Cardinals
Saints at home
Colts
Lions
Falcons at home
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:38 am
Im good I know we have a good team. Lol maniac fan’s have nothing to live for. Im here to tell you its not as bad as you think. Thus is going to be a great season. Ill throw you a life line when we sail by.
Fire the BucN Cannons!!!
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:38 am
9-7. Offense and defense will both be ranked in the top 7.
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:43 am
A tale of two seasons.
I have been thinking for the last several weeks that the Niners game is a must win for the Bucs.
IF…… they can beat the Niners, then the best case scenario = 7 – 9.
Then they can split with two divisional opponents = 2 – 4 in the division.
Likely wins against Giants and Cardinals at home.
May split against Jaguars and Lions, both on the road.
No possible way against the Seahawks and Rams, both on the road.
Maybe steal one against the Titans, Texans, or Luckless Colts, all playoff teams.
On the other hand, the worst case scenario = 2 or 3 wins.
IF …….. they lose to the Niners???
Still likely to beat the Cardinals, and maybe the Giants.
Likely they will be swept by two divisional opponents = 1 -5 in division.
Still no way to beat the Seahawks and Rams on the road.
Probably lose both road games to Lions and Jaguars, but may steal one.
Probably lose to playoff teams like the Titans, Texans and Colts.
tickrdr
BTW: Did you know that the Bucs are quite poor at winning games you might classify as a “shootout”. Last year, the Bucs had 10 games where the opponent scored at least 24 points. The Bucs were 1 – 9 in those games, winning only vs. NO with Fitzmagic. In fact, since 2015, the Bucs have had 37 such games where the opponents scored at least 24 points. The Bucs record in these “shootout” type games is 4 – 33!!
For comparison, the Chiefs defense was 24th overall last year, and they had 9 games where the opponents scored at least 24 points. Mahomes and their offense went 5 – 4 in those 9 games.
The Rams defense was ranked 20th overall, and had 8 such games where the opponents scored at least 24 points. Jared Goff and the Rams offense went
6 -2 in those games, even winning vs. KC scoring a 50+ burger!
September 2nd, 2019 at 9:57 am
I’m still at 8-8. Nobody wants us to lose. Esp us real fans. But its hard to stay positive with this Glazers..”Hobby Team” for a lot of years. Almost 12 yrs and no playoffs. Yet people say stay faithful. If fans can see the deficiencies, why can’t mngt? And why are there always 8 to 10 teams always..in the running every year? Every yr, they give us 2 or 3 Bucs to bash. Trying to ease out anger and anxieties.It just sucks hangin in there. The best part of watching my Bucs is my wife lets me ..funnel the liquor to get me numb. That way I don’t throw Sh** at the TV. Heres to another..mediocre season fellow fans.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:02 am
Right in line with Vegas has us winning, and they’re rarely wrong. However with a G.M. saying it ain’t talent, and a new staff agreeing, why only seven wins? All the secondary issues were fixed, Bunting in the second, and Cappa has learned how to play. Not to mention Dotson is healthy again, again, why not playoffs? We have a first pick in the draft at QB going on his fifth year, and a holy hosts of QB whispers coaching him up. If you believe Licht has built a powerhouse the last five years, and BA is the man to lead us to the promised land, why only seven wins?
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:06 am
6-10 another wasted year with Licht at the helm.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:11 am
The problem with a 7-9 record is that it keeps Jason Licht here. Look at how high this team has been picking in the draft for the past 5 years. There should be MORE Talent on this team by now–we shouldn’t have such big holes on the OL, at DE, and at RB. Not to mention, the Kicker is still a big question mark.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:13 am
Joe-
7-9 would mean: a) alot of injuries.
or b) Jameis continues to be a turnover machine
It would not mean Improvement- losing season is failure by any football fan’s measure
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:22 am
4-12 and hopefully Jameis is freed from the Black-hole that is Tamap Bay Buccaneers football…
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:27 am
The last time we had an halfway decent defense we went 9-7…that said I’m expecting this defense to be very much improved….
7-9 is the floor for this team, but I think the ceiling is at least 11-5; it all depends on injuries first and foremost and how we start the season (the first 6 weeks in particular)…
I trust this coaching staff to have our guys ready and most importantly, I don’t see BA getting out coached every week like the 2 bums we had as HC’s before him…
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:41 am
Joe, you are probably right but that record should not elevate JW’s chances for a long term deal. They might end up trying to franchise tag him one more season.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:42 am
Still hoping for public tours of the JBF world HQ’s. Can only imagine what a grand facility that must be. Yep, 7-9 sounds about right.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:42 am
I see the following this year from the franchise.
Better decision making and game management by Jameis
An improved running game
Same or better OL play
The kicking game is stabilized
A very much improved defense
Better special teams play
Summation: A much, much better coaching staff from top to bottom! Bruce Arians provides leadership, a vision and a road map to a turnaround. The competition will be fierce.
Therefore, here are my predictions for 2019.
The Buccaneers will have a 9 and 7 season with no playoff appearance.
The Bucs will lose both games to New Orleans, split with Atlanta and sweep Carolina. We will be third in the NFC South but not at the bottom.
New Orleans will win the Super Bowl this year.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:51 am
You people are unbelievable sometimes. If the Bucs are in the top 7 for both offense and defense, and they only end up with a 9-7 record, then Bruce Arians failed at his job.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:52 am
Minus GMC from your team and that’s equalivant to 5 wins alone …… 10-6
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:05 am
The difference is the Falcons and the Browns have, what people perceive to be, a legit QB which a mass of people feel certain the Bucs are missing…Either JW has to be completely changed or the Bucs land a truly promising QB if their will be any real optimism for next season!
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:16 am
9-7
Maybe 10-6 and playoffs with a fortunate bounce or two…..
Coaching matters!
Winston will have a career year.
Defense will be vastly improved.
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:18 am
7-9 is worse than 2-14, 5-11, etc. because of the way the draft works. We are going to suck again for years.
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:21 am
Cynical: Negative or pessimistic, as from world-weariness
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:23 am
There is a whole new coaching staff and about 20 players who weren’t on the 53 last season. Team also has more speed on defense and a better kicking game.
8-8 in 2019 and needle pointing upward
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:27 am
I don’t see how any knowledgeable fan can make a prediction based on facts when this team has shown virtually no cards.
I am in the “coaching matters” crowd. But we haven’t even seen what that means on game day.
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:27 am
Well said Joe. This is spot on.
September 2nd, 2019 at 11:39 am
Ha….been sayin’….
7-9.
Go Bucs!
September 2nd, 2019 at 12:11 pm
Talk about setting a low bar. That’s what it has come to? Expecting another losing season just 2 games better than last years losing season is such a losers mentality. 9 – 7 or all this gets blown up. How are we supposed to get excited about another losing season?
September 2nd, 2019 at 12:56 pm
OneBuc55 Says:
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:27 am
The last time we had an halfway decent defense we went 9-7…
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That defense in 2016 had SEVEN games where the opponents scored 17 or less points. That is as good as it gets on the defensive side of the ball for those 7 games, and the Bucs won all 7!
But when the opponents scored MORE than 17 points, the Bucs went 2-7 in those other games. That is with America’s QB, ProBowler, #1 pick in the entire NFL draft, Jameis Winston and all those “weapons for Winston”.
tickrdr
September 2nd, 2019 at 1:43 pm
Check out D Rome throwing around the personal insults. Not necessary.Theres already one T MA C here.
Are you attempting to get in on his act? Because typing your name doesn’t get comments sent to moderation. I guess you’re not that good yet. Keep trying little buddy.
September 2nd, 2019 at 1:44 pm
Hey Joe- why exactly does having TMAX in a post get it sent to moderation?
Let D- Rome know.
September 2nd, 2019 at 1:50 pm
Thank you tickrdr for bringing up the ‘weapons for Winston’ false narrative. Weapons for Winston was a marketing ploy to get fans excited to buy tickets and come to the games. The only true Weapon in 2016 was Mike Evans in his 3rd year.
Mike Evans
Cam Brate
Brandon Myers
Luke Stocker
Cecil Shorts
V Jax at 33
A Humphries
F Martino
Josh Huff
Dontae Dye
Weapons? Hilarious.
September 2nd, 2019 at 2:23 pm
4-12. I just don’t see Jameis turning the corner, but I will be hoping like hell that he does. Our run blocking and running backs are pathetic until proven otherwise. Vita is injury prone, JPP will not be the same even if he comes back, super rookie Devin White has done nothing so far to justify Light’s dumba$$ move taking him at number 5 and all the players are learning a new scheme. I could go on, but I am depressed enough as it is. I hope that I am wrong, but I have danced this dance many times with this team and I need to see actual improvement before I blindly have faith in them.
September 2nd, 2019 at 2:38 pm
5-11 last season with 6 games lost by 7 points for less with bottom ranked pass defense and 3rd down conversion. Lets not forget one of the worst kicking games. With an improvement to just average pass defense, kicking game, about 10 more run plays per game, and better coaching overall we should see us winning 3-4 more games so I believe we can be a 8-8/9-7 team.
September 2nd, 2019 at 2:52 pm
I’m predicting 2 wins if that, they just don’t have the talent to compete. Specifically the oline is terrible, no running back, no cb, no elite pass rushers. Just a terrible GM.
Better prediction is how long until JW gets hurt (no more than week 2) and by how many points will they lose on avg? I’m thinking around 24 points on avg.
September 2nd, 2019 at 3:21 pm
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Bucs’ fan.
September 2nd, 2019 at 3:27 pm
Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a Bucs’ fan. per Cobra–dude feel the same way but this year I’m thinking 8-8 based on aggressive defense and better run game
possible JW gets maimed early and all bets are off
September 2nd, 2019 at 4:00 pm
over-under: 4 1/2 wins.
September 2nd, 2019 at 4:48 pm
I refuse to go into the season guessing a losing record.
September 2nd, 2019 at 5:59 pm
@Dapostman:
Those games were from 2016.
Since then, Jameis and the “weapons for Winston” have gone 1 – 17 in games where the opponents scored at least 24 points. Those game are called
“shootouts”. Since then, they have gotten rid of DeSean Jackson, and Adam Humphries, and Cameron Brate has had offseason hip surgery. Now, they have added Breshad Perriman, and Dare Ogunbowale, and moved Chris Godwin to the slot. So, we shall see, if the offense is improved or not.
tickrdr
September 2nd, 2019 at 6:01 pm
Look at the division. Look at the schedule. 4-12
September 2nd, 2019 at 7:04 pm
4 and 12. You know why. Nothing has changed. Stop with BA being all that. He cant play oline, DE, RB, DB and kicker. They are weak on the lines despite money spent and inexperienced in the secondary despite a multitude of picks over the years. When JW gets hurt we have who? Griffin… laughable. Build oline for Lawrence, as they failed for JW. Should have began that this past draft.
September 2nd, 2019 at 8:05 pm
Yo Mike Vick couldn’t play behind this line. We should pelt licht with rocks to see how he likes getting hit all game long.
September 2nd, 2019 at 10:50 pm
Am I the only person who doesn’t think the Bucs’ schedule is THAT scary?