Get Rid Of The Ball!
September 26th, 2019
On pace to absorb a record number of hits
Joe has written about how NFL Technology tracks “Time To Throw” (snap to release) and Jameis Winston, America’s Quarterback, has been near the bottom of the league the past three years, meaning he takes more time to throw than most.
That is continuing and it must stop.
Under Bucco Bruce Arians in Arizona, Pro Bowl quarterback Carson Palmer was among the very best in the NFL at 2.49 seconds average snap to release back in 2016, per the NFL’s NextGen Stats.
Who led the NFL in “Time To Throw” in 2017? Current Bucs backup Blaine Gabbert making five starts in Arians’ offense in Arizona, and Arians says injured Gabbert is a perfect fit for his offense.
Jameis in 2019? He’s at 2.7 seconds snap-to-release through three games.
Yes, Jameis is holding the ball too long. Jameis admitted yesterday at One Buc Palace that he’s done his share of that trying to make plays. Talk to Arians long enough and he’ll definitely tell you his QBs have to get the ball out quickly to thrive.
Compared to the rest of the league Jameis has always taken longer to throw than most – 2.88 seconds average in 2016, 2.77 in 2017, and 2.80 last year.
Joe called attention to this data several times in the offseason and will continue to monitor it — because it’s a key to the Arians offense.
None of this means Jameis is playing crap football, but he’s got to be quicker to throw if he’s going to fit the offense the way he’s being asked to. For those wondering, Jameis is on pace to absorb 130 quarterback hits this season, per official NFL stats. He led the NFL with 109 hits taken in 2015.
Those aren’t all on the offensive line.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:07 am
5th year dead horse getting beaten back there. He is what he is.
Doom. Woe is us. Women and children first. All that.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:13 am
Joe…it’s his FIFTH YEAR….he is incapable.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:14 am
And he he starts unloading it faster, INTs will increase. Just the way it is….don’t attack me.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:14 am
Joe, you got to the heart of the matter. Jameis does not make quick enough decisions to be an NFL QB. He waits to see if his receivers come open rather then throw them open. He can’t anticipate where the ball should go, and deliver it to that spot with accuracy. Everyone has been blaming the coaches for telling him to stay in the pocket. It’s not their fault he can’t deliver the ball on time. Most of the second half sacks Sunday were on him. Jaws was fond of saying an NFL QB has to process information quickly, and make the right decision. That’s not Jameis, that will never be Jameis. He’s not a franchise QB, never will be. The sooner the organization realizes this, and moves on the better. We’ll be picking at the top of the first round next year with a good crop of QB’s to pick from. Move on.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:19 am
It is sad and I haven’t totally given up on Jameis but my support could be described as “live support”…
Jameis simply has not improved…..he was as good in year 1 as he is now….we desperately need cap space….if we have a high enough draft position…it may be time to draft a QB.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:22 am
“America’s Quarterback”?? Soon he won’t be Tampa Bay’s quarterback.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:28 am
DB55
and there you have it!!!!!!….lol….
Dotson said: Adont look at me….tell JW to throw the damn ball on time and he wont get hit as much…..
how quick does mahommes get rid of the ball?…..lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 26th, 2019 at 8:28 am
Uh-oh! DB55 will not be pleased with this data!
A possible symptom of being hit so often? Hmmm!
September 26th, 2019 at 8:30 am
*cause* not “symptom”!
September 26th, 2019 at 8:41 am
DUH, anyone paying attention would know this about WinSTUNNED already…It’s called INDECISION…deer in the headlights he is…not a starting QB for anyone
September 26th, 2019 at 8:43 am
Joe is so lame lol. What’s the time to release for Aaron Rodgers
Philip rivers, Dak Prescott. Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan? I know you guys just like to get everyone in an uproar so I’ll amswrr for you. They are all higher than Winston. It’s irrelevant as far as trying to make it look like he is below avg in time to throw
First, it’s a three-game sample size. Second, last year just about all the guys you mentioned had a faster throw time. Third, this is really about success with Arians’ offense, which per Arians calls for a fast release time. –Joe
September 26th, 2019 at 8:45 am
now watch @db55 say WR’s arent getting open….lol….or the routes take too long to develop….lol….
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 26th, 2019 at 8:54 am
Insulting Joe with malicious nonsense is not appreciated.–Joe
BA and and his son BL
has no quick short passing game. BL called 1 screen and gain 41 yards and stopped calling the play for the rest of the game
this scheme and playcalling is terrible for a mobile west coast type passer like JW3
BA/BL trying to use Perriman as Humps replacement is a terrible failure.
All you have to do is look at the 3rd down percentages from these past 3 games vs the 4 years of JW
This is a copycat league. Why isnt any other team running BAs outdated vertical scheme?
*My Dad will be posting his enlightening thoughts on the upcoming game during this week”
Son of Kobe Faker
September 26th, 2019 at 8:55 am
I mean his coach is Byron Leftwich who had slowest release of all time so at least you cannot say that jameis is not getting coached
September 26th, 2019 at 8:57 am
I wonder do any of you understand the difference between 2.7 and 2.49 seconds! Try measuring it on a stop watch and tell then comment!
September 26th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Eric….guess .21 seconds means absolutely nothing in the NFL? Guess again buddy.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:59 am
813boi
You don’t have to wait for DB55 ….. I’ll say it. Our Wrs aren’t open and it’s okay. Our WRs are bigger and don’t run 4.2 like all the KC guys
September 26th, 2019 at 9:00 am
Leftwich with the Leftwich clone…how could it turn out good?
September 26th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Eric yeah it really doesn’t seem like much, but keep in mind it’s average. I think there are some throws he may get rid of it pretty quickly, but other snaps where he takes his sacks you can clearly see he’s holding it more than 3 seconds
September 26th, 2019 at 9:15 am
Can’t get rid of the ball if no WR are creating separation to get open. Then you complain when he forces the ball into coverage. All this bitching and complaining is not helping the team so support our QB/team or find a new team!!!
September 26th, 2019 at 9:17 am
It’s not the amount of time that is concerning, but that the ball rarely send to come out on rhythm, which means he isn’t making the right pre snap read or he is but is second guessing it. He actually looked much more in rhythm the first half of the last game. I’d love to see what his tone was for that period of time. You know, the best half of football he has played as a buc.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:19 am
Jameis hasALWAYS held on to the ball longer than he should, but when he was good he would scramble or extend the play with his feet until a WR broke free of coverage. The problem is, the Bucs are trying to force him into being a pocket passer. No idea why someone would spend the 1st overall pick on an elusive QB, the. Spend the next 5 years telling him to keep his eyes down field and stay in the pocket. Insanity.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:21 am
NextGen stats are really interesting. The list shows Jameis as being in the middle of the pack and that Aaron Rodgers has the highest time-to-throw value. There are top tier QBs in the NFL with a slower time than Jameis.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:26 am
Regular season is nothing compared to the post season I believe Brady absorbed 20 hits against Atlanta and still came back to win the game. He also sustained a
pounding at the in AFC game against Denver.
So the choice is clear get rid of the ball quicker and limit possible injuries and
miscues.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:32 am
muscle memory from Dirk’s offense. Jameis is so used to long developing plays that he has brain lock.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:35 am
Looking at the number without tracking vs other QBs or factoring in route development is not all that relevant. Aaron Rodgers is among the league worst at over 3s. But I checked further. Next gen has 36 QBs listed with minimum of 30 throws. 18 were better (Cam Newton is the best) and 17 were worst. I may have a number off here or there but I am very close at worst. So Winston, in a new system, that is still focused on downfield throws, is trending better than he has in his career, per JBF he was in the league bottom to the middle of the pack. But JBF chooses to admonish as the primary reason he’s getting hit. Not either tackle, not these slow developing Leftwich bunch plays.
Just blame Winston for everything and people will believe it and enjoy bashing him.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:38 am
TampaBay55….100% last year in Monken’s offense, I am pretty sure that monken said if you have green grass go to winston…this year it seems he is being forced to be stuck in cement. Arians has not caught up with the times of having a qb that can scarmble and make plays. Last year due to 2 dumb plays the super bowl qbs should have been both mobile qbs in brees and mahomes. Brady and the Pats are an aberration in the NFL similar to the bucs losing.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:41 am
You know this is bs with zero content but yea.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:43 am
Kobe and son
Could it be that Jameis is not quite as mobile or as efficient a West Coast QB as you think he is ? There was an INT and 2 or 3 badly thrown short passes in the
second half that a west coast QB has to make. He was also lucky that the ball
he attempted to force to Perriman was not an INT. Third and three your QB has to make those plays no matter what style of play he has.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:47 am
First, it’s a three-game sample size. Second, last year just about all the guys you mentioned had a faster throw time. Third, this is really about success with Arians’ offense, which per Arians calls for a fast release time. –Joe
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Back tracking so quickly sir?
Lol. You guys are funny.
September 26th, 2019 at 9:51 am
813bucboi Says:
September 26th, 2019 at 8:45 am
now watch @db55 say WR’s arent getting open….lol…
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I didn’t even have to say it bc your conscience was screaming at you bc you have a clue 813. Except for vh3 you know what you’re talking about.
Don’t forget the offense doesn’t focus on 2 yard slants or backs out like NE. JW trying to hit OJ and Evans on 15 dig route, 10 yard posts or 10 yard outs but wtfdik
Oh btw McIceCream is a 6x pro-bowler who is the best at his position 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 some of youz truly are clueless, not you 813
September 26th, 2019 at 9:52 am
Great QB’s are accurate, make quick decisions and protect the ball Jameis isn’t great at any of those areas of the position.
While I think he has a good arm, superior pocket presence and is great out of the pocket he just isn’t the QB we all hoped for. His strengths make him great between the 20’s but once the field shrinks in the red zone he has trouble.
September 26th, 2019 at 10:40 am
I’d like to see more drop, stop, and pass routes, like slants and quick outs. Winston with his nervous happy feet can be slow on his progressions, then the window for success on a designed play breaks down and it turns into a schoolyard scramble drill, where JW improvises and it affects his accuracy.
drop, stop, and throw
September 26th, 2019 at 10:45 am
They lost the 2nd half vs Giants 22-3.
A rookie qb in his 1st start looked better than Mr 3 td ,102 qb rating.
The only thing Jameis is good at is stats and losing.
September 26th, 2019 at 10:51 am
Morgus the Magnificent Says:
September 26th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Eric….guess .21 seconds means absolutely nothing in the NFL? Guess again buddy.
LOL you don’t have a clue, since I don’t know why don’t you tell me what 2 tenths of a second equate to on a pass in a football game!
September 26th, 2019 at 10:56 am
When you watch on television you have a clock in your head and can see when the ball should come out but our quarterback seems to hesitate slightly at that exact moment to do the release the ball comes out slightly late which often Results in a missed timed throw.
I don’t think there are any successful quarterbacks with the throwing motion like JW‘s. He throws the football like an athlete throwing the javelin to be more successful and get rid of the ball quicker to throw should be more like throwing a dart at a dartboard it’s a flick not a wind up thrown playing baseball certainly has not helped His mechanics.
13 more games to see if he can improve accuracy along with faster decisions
September 26th, 2019 at 10:58 am
WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ STATS!!!!
Haha.. no matter how much the stats PROVE that Jameis Winston isn’t an elite QB, the homers on this site will still come up with crap to make excuses for him.
DB55 loves to cry about how many QB hits he takes, as if it’s all the O-Line’s fault. He takes a lot of hits because he holds the ball. The stat obviously proves it but it wasn’t rocket science in the first place.
NDOG love to whine that it’s the WRs fault that they just aren’t getting open and so Winston has no choice! LOLZ.
I stated it during the offseason and people thought I was crazy…
Winston is NOT capable of making quick reads in the NFL. At FSU he was used to plays that took awhile to develop, and often had better WRs that their opponents DBs. The NFL is different. Talent is closely matched and these are the best athletes in the world. Spaces close quickly.
Extending Winston on a long-term contract to $30M+/year will be the DUMBEST THING this team has ever done aside from letting Doug Williams go.
September 26th, 2019 at 11:05 am
And for him to get a contract extension other than having a winning record he will have to show over the next seven or eight games that he can play 60 minutes of good football his highlights are amazing but it all comes in bunches the guy needs to be able to play entire games efficiently with good decision making
September 26th, 2019 at 11:06 am
People need to make up their minds. For the past few years, fans and media have complained that Jameis took too many risks. You wanted him to take the sacks instead of throwing the ball.
Now you got your way and you still complain.
September 26th, 2019 at 11:09 am
DB55
i root hard for JW but at some point you have to hold him accountable…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 26th, 2019 at 11:21 am
Joe: Its the same answer to these type of JW articles. Ignorant people take time to process information. He is the king of ignorance. I know the clowns will chime in that he was accepted to Stanford, blah blah blah. My neighbors son went to FSU while JW was there and he said that he NEVER attended a class. He went on to state that JW would make an appearance every once in a while just to show face, hence the cafeteria transgression.
September 26th, 2019 at 11:39 am
well, well, well….the windup delivery, the sailing passes, the lack of touch, bonehead turnovers…ALL things discussed 5 years ago and still today!!! It better be over this year. “Tolerate until he can be replaced”…for 2020…
September 26th, 2019 at 12:00 pm
Joe, those are the kinds of stats that can be misleading….In Koetters offense,pass plays took longer to develop because our receivers ran deeper routes, which means the QB took 5 or 7 step drops….Check that same stat at the end of this season and see the difference…..BA’s offense is more quick pass3 step drops and the ball is gone…..
September 26th, 2019 at 12:28 pm
813
You right sir I should hold him accountable.
Hard to do with all the riff raff talking out their arse. And somehow 1 of our fearless leaders is of a similar mindset but he also thinks the oline is decent so there’s that. And there no excuse either bc I see him on twitter commenting on posts where DSmith is being thrown around like a rag doll by Oshane Ximines (whoever that is) but I digress.
Tell you what show me a QB who has done it better in Tampa and I’ll STFU to the best of my ability lol. You know why you can’t? Bc no one has ever done it better in TB just check the record books. 🎤 💧
September 26th, 2019 at 12:38 pm
@DB55
more bullsh*t…Doug Williams was a star, in Tampa. They ruined his career, forcing him to the USFL. Shove your stats up the wazooo!
September 26th, 2019 at 1:13 pm
Sorry Jameis. I’ve always rooted for you to become better through all of your rookie contract years, but it’s rebuilding next year. Idiots that thought Jason Licht would be fired after last year are still saying it. Glazers don’t sign a 5-year deal with a GM they’re not going to let go within at least two years. They like Licht and so do I, he’s a great scout.
Ain’t no sheep and would love to see Jameis’ to lead us to the Super Bowl (or maybe playoffs), but I do believe his time here in Tampa is over after this year. Just not consistent enough. Gonna be watching every game with excitement but would like to see our 2020 round one QB draft pick selections.
September 26th, 2019 at 3:06 pm
Um, JOES … you do understand Jameis has played in a VERTICAL PASSING ATTACK and is still in one right?
QBs in those systems NEED to HOLD THE BALL to let routes develop.
OF COURSE JW will be at the very top of this stat, as he’s not in a dink n’ dunk or west coast system.
Arians says he would like his QBs to get the ball out quick, but that’s next to impossible in a vertical passing attack, which is why ALL of Arians’ QBs get beat on pretty good and take some hard hits, as they hold the ball to let the deeper routes develop.
I’m not crushing Arians, it’s just his system, but it’s craziness to think a QB like Jameis or anyone else in a vertical passing attack is going to get the ball out as quick as guys in a west coast type system.
September 26th, 2019 at 3:34 pm
The problem with saying that Jameis is playing a vertical game lies in his 11% completion rate in passes over 20 yards. 11%.
Byron Leftwich had one of the longest windups for any NFL QB. How can he make someone else throw faster?
If Jameis could scramble to both sides it might be different. He can’t and every other team knows it.
With all of the dysfunction on this team, I think 4-12 is a stretch, 3-13 is most probable. That means JW will be 25-52 at the end of the season and the Bucs Number 1 pick next year is another franchise QB. That is the only hope we have, unless Griffin plays.
September 26th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
Don’t worry Jamies will be gone soon!!!! And when the next quarterback comes in and we still lose I want yall to blame him for ever lost just like yall did Jamies. The man ball and yall still blaming him for the lost . He put the team in position to win and yall still blaming him for the loss lol lol lol . And yall said race don’t have nothing to do with it lol lol lol lol ……
September 26th, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Eric, if .21 seconds means nothing, why did Joe post this? And if .21 means nothing, why do they keep stats on that constantly? And if .21 seconds means nada, well…how about .28 seconds? Surely .07 means nothing too right? Just idiocy running rampant. Hell, let him hold the ball for an average of 4 seconds…what the hell difference does it make, right?
September 26th, 2019 at 4:06 pm
Hey Joe, “First, it’s a three-game sample size” did the time to throw the ball from snap to release change this season? Has Winston not been our QB for Four seasons and three games? What do you mean it is only a three-game sample size? Did they not time the QB’s four, three, two, or one year ago? I hope we figure out what we will be doing soon. Time to put up or ship out. This is season Five in the NFL for Winston. He is no longer a rookie. Take the games he shows us this season and make a decision, keep him or move on. I want to be SHOWN WHAT HE HAS LEARNED, not what he needs to still fix for him to get better with, decision making, ball placement, release speed. This is getting old. Been old. Get better or get gone. I want to WIN!
September 26th, 2019 at 4:31 pm
To DB55 and others making any arguments defended by how bad the Bucs have looked historically.
IF JW could be better than our QB’s of the past then he’s not the real deal. That bar is soooo low. I respect Brad Johnson. He was a winner and a very heady player who played to his strengths and stays away from his limitations. Sadly that is the opposite of JW.
I do not care about past Bucs teams other than to cheer our SB memories. As for our trials and tribulations which have been manifest…I prefer to live in the moment. Seriously if you meditate or think much about life and philosophy it’s all we have…the past is gone…the future may or may not arrive…what we have is this present moment.
Play JW….let him sink or swim on the results rather than on any of our opinions. I root for the Bucs so I root for JW as long as he remains the starting QB…but that’s this moment…going forward will depend on JW…if he fails…I won’t be happy…but I’ll return to moment and root for a great draft pick.
I’m pretty much like TBBF. I still support JW but it’s beginning to fade…not gone in this moment…but threatened for sure.
September 26th, 2019 at 5:18 pm
July Joe,
Excellent point regarding west coast vs vertical. I’ve thought from day 1 winston is not in the best scheme for him. The idea that everyone compared winston pre draft with big Ben was based on superficial things not what winston did successfully in college.
All the critical comments about koetter and all the Arians is going to do this and that and the other was more fans projecting onto Arians their own solutions and not understanding who Arians has been as a coach. Now folks are beginning to get disappointed because their expectations weren’t realistic.
I’m in agreement with you on comparing apples to apples or in this case scheme to scheme. If we compare winstons T.T. to other QB’s in the league who operate the same scheme then it’s a good comparison and its useful.
I believe you’d agree.
The fact is winston is slower than most or the majority of his competition. The fact was on display last season and the previous season when Fitzpatrick ran the same offense.
Why is winston operating the scheme slower than his peers is the question that no one is addressing. The common replies include, longer drops 7steps, longer developing routes, protection breakdowns. This is on one side.
The other side, He’s dumb, processes slowly, awkward delivery, not intelliigent, gets locked in to a reciever.
I believe that is a fair reporting on both sides of the equation.
Personally, I see there’s multiple opinions and some are more correct than others but neither side is 100% correct. The problem is that there’s no accounting for Winston’s aggressive nature and his ability to move forward from a horrible play to a great play often in the same series.
Additionally, there’s multiple fans blaming the system but not one acknowledging Winston’s play within the system is a big part of the reason He faces certain scenarios game in and out. I can’t find an once of credibility in some people’s opinions because of this specific lapse in their analysis. It undermines everything they’re attempting to rationalize.
The same can be said of the other side that believes winston is stupid, not smart etc etc.. The absolute truth is that in the NFL QB’S are smart. Football wise. Dumb guys get exposed quickly no matter how much effort a coach puts into covering up the fact. It’s not something that can be hidden for long. Now are some players smarter than others, of course they are. That in one way means that player x is a savant and therefore player z is an idiot. Sorry but it’s not accurate. The idea that winston is not intelligent enough is an instant DQ on the person who offers up such nonsense.
Point is that there’s two sides of this strange winston debate. Strange in that ,
There’s little concession in either side no matter what time and facts reveal.
I’d say that’s especially true of one side but it’s not exclusive. The idea that anyone is 100% correct and the opposing view is 100% wrong is so much Bullspit that any adult should be ashamed of themselves for being so gosh darn ignorant and somehow missed what life experiences teach adults about viewing things as either black or white. That’s how a child thinks. Adults who have their brains turned on understand thru experience that the world is a lot more gray than it is black or white. And anyone claiming the extreme side is to be dismissed automatically as they don’t possess the mental dexterity to offer a legitimate argument.
September 26th, 2019 at 6:03 pm
Corny a$$ “fans” have been trying to create lame catch phrases for months now. (Jaymiss) (Winstunned). Well guess who’s going to be your quarterback come Sunday. So go ahead and get it in your big ole ball and cry.
September 26th, 2019 at 6:41 pm
He is harassed dam near every drop back , the protection just isn’t good , it isn’t , cut the Bs !!! Hell did you see Cappa trying to tackle the Clemson product and Winston still got crushed it just happened to be by Cappa also !!! .1 second does not even come close to equating to the dam hits Winston is taking !!! Folks go look at the bottom 10 QBs in qb hits and look at the record !!! Come on Joe this is crazy the guy is harassed like no other , constantly moving two or three yards just to throw it’s BAD !!! No QB can win with bottom 10 protection . STOP IT !!!! Arians is in Lah Lah land , Protect the dam QB and let him throw down hill like in college , he has to move so much to throw anyway !!! Just to have a 153 qb rating at half with bottom 5 protection is a minor miracle !!!! Coach his arss hard, open his stride a bit and protect him and you will hv a top ten qb .
September 26th, 2019 at 6:56 pm
SPBF
That’s exactly my point. The Bucs have sucked forever long so stop looking a gift horse in the mouth.
Signed,
Jon Gruden, Talib, Blount, and a host of others
September 26th, 2019 at 7:50 pm
Isaac,
The odd thing is that underror pressure Winston is rated #12 and #14 from a clean pocket. Consider He’s 28th in the number of clean pocket throws I’d say it’s time to change things up.
September 26th, 2019 at 8:35 pm
Isaac – your narrative about our O-Line does not match up with the FACTS.
Our O-Line for pass protection last season was in the top half of the league. It would have ranked higher if Winston didn’t hold the ball so long (he’s one of the worst at that).
Our pass protection has once again been decent this season. ALL Defenses in the NFL eventually pressure, hit, sack the QB. The O-Line can’t block defenders indefinitely. When you have QB like Winston that takes a long time to make reads and get rid of the ball, he’s going to be pressured/hit/sacked a lot more.
September 26th, 2019 at 10:05 pm
It is in his brain. He does not think fast enough. I do not know how he played centerfield in college, players would be taking extra bases on flyouts.
September 27th, 2019 at 2:31 am
BucsBandit,
You’re right about last year. Winston threw from a clean pocket 84% of the time which ranked as 12th best last year. Amazing in my opinion is that the team had a high number of passing attempts due to poor defensive play, making the team on more occasions than not, one dimensional.
I have to add that last year’s team , we’re told had no running game. Worst running backs and an o line that was incapable of run blocking. That’s the narrative. Fact is that the running game was not nearly as bad as the fans believe.
Not suggesting it was great or even good just it wasn’t possible to have a great running game with a porous defense and backs that lack the ability to go yard. All things considered, it’s not surprising that Arians believed after looking at the team that the offensive line wasn’t as bad as buc fans thought and the running game was there but underutilized. If there’s an argument with that opinion it’s not my opinion but Arians words and actions that support it.
Point is, I believe you’re correct about the excellent oline protection last year and I’ve added the running game wasn’t as awful as it appeared. You get this but many dont, no team in the NFL is dominating week end and week out using a single game plan and strategy. You can’t run over every team, can’t pass protect 100% of the time over a 16 game season.
So when someone points to a particular horrible game that reinforces they’re view it’s not very credible as all teams can be found to be inconsistent at some point in a season. Bucs no different. The idea that the bucs offense was hot garbage last year doesn’t jibe with the facts. Rod Munchhauser brings this point up frequently and he’s correct. As are you in this case.
Last, if anyone believes winston is under pressure more than his peers and his personal performance is adversely affected by it then they unwittingly placed the blame on winston and not the target of their accusations ie. Coaches and oline. I know that’s not the intention but that’s the humorous part of it. Humorous in not understanding how the game is played by opposing teams and QB’S while simultaneously blaming everyone and everything else but the person most responsible. A backhanded insult to the player they choose to befriend. Lunacy ? Yes! But deliciously humorous in a sick twisted way.
September 30th, 2019 at 5:46 pm
Jameis was great- solid for 4 quarters,
He engineered 20 2nd half points , and he responded to the pick 6 he threw.
This Jameis will win consistently!
Seems the good coaching is sicking in