Brady Quinn Annoyed By “Garbage” From “Writers” And Fans Criticizing Bruce Arians
September 25th, 2019
Bucco Bruce Arians has a loud defender.
The head coach’s decision to take a delay of game penalty intentionally with 13 seconds left on the 9 yard line before having Jameis Winston take a two-yard loss and a knee to set up a timeout before a game-winning-field-goal try against the Giants has drawn the disbelief of many fans and media types.
Did the Bucs really draft a kicker who’s uncomfortable with a 27 yard field goal attempt? That distance should be nailed 95 percent of the time. Many kickers also will tell you closer means less room for error.
However, former NFL QB Brady Quinn, who is now a daily host on SiriusXM NFL Radio (and a darn good analyst) was rather adamant this week saying any criticism of Arians for intentionally losing seven yards to relocate the football is way out of line.
Quinn literally said “writers” and “fans” have been spewing “garbage” about Arians’ decision and they’re misguided.
Quinn said there’s no question that Arians only backed up the kick for Matt Gay– and moved it from the right hash toward the left — because that’s what his kicker requested. That’s obviously his kicker’s comfort zone so you have to go with it, Quinn said.
Joe might agree with Quinn, except Arians turned a chip-shot field goal into what effectively was an extra point after Gay already missed two extra points. That can’t be wise. Can it be?
What a frustrating loss it was.
On Sunday, if the Bucs have, say, 4th-and-5 on the 10 yard line and bring out the field goal unit, it will be quite a freakin’ head-scratcher if Arians kicks that ball without taking a delay of game penalty.
September 25th, 2019 at 3:13 pm
The FG to go up by 6 was shorter than the winning kick would have been if he didnt take the penalty.
I was hoping bad coaching was fixed this year…
September 25th, 2019 at 3:17 pm
This is just crazy excuses. Guess what? Earlier in the game the Bucs stalled in the red zone at around the 10 yard line and the Bucs kicked a FG from the left hash and it was good, right down the middle of the uprights. This delay of game to help the kicker is total BA BS.
September 25th, 2019 at 3:19 pm
I ageee, already see clowns on this site calling Arians incompetent. There are decades of losing that need wrung from this franchise and the wheels are in motion. I still have total faith in the coaching staff.
Joe, you are just as guilty as anyone. Trying to use Arians words verbatim when he was just trying to cover for his guys and it’s obvious, but hey that doesn’t make as interesting of a story, does it?
September 25th, 2019 at 3:34 pm
still a TON of football left…..
colts started 1-5 and still made the playoffs…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 25th, 2019 at 3:38 pm
stupid franchise
September 25th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
I had high hopes for the current coaches, but that has been dashed after only three games.
The double time out against the Panthers and then the no attempt at letting Jamies win the game with a TD at the end of the game along with compounding the problem with a delay of game.
I had hoped with Dirk Koetter gone these things would be in the past, but Arians has continued on with bad coaching during crunch time.
September 25th, 2019 at 3:48 pm
If the kicker is more comfortable kicking from further away, then find another kicker.
September 25th, 2019 at 3:51 pm
74
True Dat
September 25th, 2019 at 3:53 pm
People / fans already trying to run this guy out of town , 2 games !! Fans think coaches are lining up to come here.
He is 2 time coach of year for a reason not cause a guy on his couch ( by number of blue shirts they aren’t at game) thinks he can coach at pro level.
September 25th, 2019 at 3:55 pm
And Snowman
Back2back time outs, a completely ignorant RPO call and icing your own kicker, not to mention taking the ball out of the hands of the QB, who you think is “fantastic “, what do you call it? Progress?
September 25th, 2019 at 3:55 pm
I agree with Quinn. A college or NFL kicker has to be able to consistently hit 34 yd field goals if not you have the wrong kicker.
September 25th, 2019 at 4:00 pm
At least BA didn’t call a couple of passing plays first……we need to make that kick…..but kicking was the right call….
September 25th, 2019 at 4:07 pm
Jmark for someone as old as yourself, you sure act like an instant gratification craving millennial. This is a completely new system on both sides of the ball, did you really expect it to click from day 1? Did you expect Jameis to have 0 turnovers? Were we supposed to be undefeated?
This thing is being built the right way, how do I know? I’ve seen it done the wrong way so many dang times and this is a different feel. Accountability for these kids is paramount and is long overdue. Now we just need consistency to turn the losing culture of this team around.
If players are consistently held accountable they will stop making the same mistakes and the Bucs can start beating other teams instead of themselves.
September 25th, 2019 at 4:12 pm
It takes time to change this huge mess!!! I only wanted to see improvement this year & we are are getting better. BA is a great coach & person… I bet next year we will be in beast mode….
September 25th, 2019 at 4:33 pm
I’m of the belief Ariens is covering for either JW or Lefty. One of those two likely didn’t comprehend the idea of moving the ball to the other hash and letting the clock run down before taking the final timeout. Let’s face it both JW and Lefty are getting enough greif these days, so I think Ariens is taking on the grenade for one of them.
September 25th, 2019 at 4:40 pm
This is so much over analysis at this point over a chip shot FG.
He had made an XP and 4 straight FGs going into that kick. He missed 1 PAT and had another blocked, so he was 5/6 on kicks going into it. If that was his preference I get it.
Just need to make the kick. Bucs beat Bucs but at least Bucs were in the game unlike most of last year.
I said this before the season but I didn’t really lay out a W:L projection, and more so wanted to see a team that improved throughout the course of the year and finished better than we started.
At no point under Lovie or Dirk, did we finish a season strong or improve. We progressively got worse . The closest thing to thinking we saw improvement over the course of a season was our defensive surge mid season in 2016 which proved to be a fluke, and we finished weak on defense in games we needed to win for a playoff chance
2014 – tank season
2015 – got to 5-5, then went 1-5 to finish 6-10
2016 – got to 8-5, then went 1-2 to finish 9-7
2017 – got to 2-1, then went 3-10 to finish 5-11
2018 – got to 2-1, then went 3-10 to finish 5-11
Go beat the Rams please and let Matt Gay have a good game football gods. Amen.
September 25th, 2019 at 4:41 pm
Correction he had made 3 FGs and 1 XP going into that kick, so 4/5 on the day going into what was a 95% probability kick.
September 25th, 2019 at 4:51 pm
yep that was a headscratcher brainf@rt
September 25th, 2019 at 4:52 pm
#ShowMeDon’tTellMe
I do not dislike Bruce Arians. I want him to succeed. I’m not judging one way or the other just yet. To me, we could bomb again, or we could suddenly turn things around. Or we could gradually turn things around.
Just don’t blow smoke up my rear quarters. Discover issues. Fix issues. Develop talent. Have a long term plan in the case that we see success (because half the team will be gone next year with one year deals).
#ShowMeDon’tTellMe
September 25th, 2019 at 4:58 pm
Exactly!
Lining up to the left hash I totally understand, Gay has said he’s more comfortable there.
Moving FURTHER back, to the same, to the same distance he already missed from and had another blocked from, is f___in retarded.
September 25th, 2019 at 5:10 pm
BA is turning out to be an out of touch liar. He should have stayed retired.
September 25th, 2019 at 5:10 pm
Jameis celebrating as if he won the super bowl after he completed the bomb to Evans, BA moving the ball to the left hash, Gay having missed two extra points previously, all contributed to up the pressure on the young kicker. He makes that kick if: Jameis acts like he’s been there before and remains cool and BA doesn’t try to tee up the kicker. Normally that’s not a bad idea, but under the circumstances I’d make my kicker man up from the right hash and closer distance and nail the kick. It’s a chip shot and he pushed it with a tentative, afraid to miss stroke.
September 25th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Bucs essentially iced their own kicker…..
September 25th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
Crazy how if he made that kick the story would be completely different. People would talk about how genius of a move it was.
September 25th, 2019 at 5:13 pm
lol smasgsquatch is blaming Jameis for the kicker missing? JFC
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
#DumbestFanbaseInTheNFL
#JustBlameJameis
September 25th, 2019 at 5:15 pm
Bruce Arrogance is never wrong, just ask him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 25th, 2019 at 5:28 pm
Left hash, right hash, dead center it doesn’t matter. As a kicker you can’t miss an extra point and 34 yd FG’s.
September 25th, 2019 at 5:35 pm
Snowman,
I wouldn’t call enduring 40+ years, minus a few good ones seeking instant gratification.
Just the opposite. Sadly, with the Bucs the more things change the more they stay the same
September 25th, 2019 at 5:49 pm
If Tom Brady said it I’d believe him, but not that Brady Quinn. He sucked worse then Bruce’s decision.
September 25th, 2019 at 6:44 pm
Don’t care if was 20 yards or 50 yards. Your either clutch or your not clutch. Hopefully he can get it together because he does have a strong leg.
September 25th, 2019 at 6:48 pm
Reaching for frog hairs here boys. Just make the motherf#*king kick!!!!!!
September 25th, 2019 at 6:48 pm
3 out of 4 commenters on FauxBucsFan.com make up 75% of dudes who never played a down of football in their lives.
September 25th, 2019 at 6:48 pm
All hat, no cattle.
September 25th, 2019 at 7:05 pm
TBBF
Normally I agree with all your posts. At last we can debate. LOL
I get your desire to kick that ball at the end but I’m with Joe on this one.
Let’s be honest. When they got that quick score after halftime did you not think well here we go again? I could see that game lost a quarter and a half before we lost it.
I certainly take your point that in the NFL we should expect to make the kick but we are not the only team to lose by missing a last second FG. But most importantly as Joe had on an earlier thread we have the worst kicking in the league since 2015. We don’t even rise to the level of sucking. Missing two XPs did it for me…I lost faith in Gay.
OTOH…JW seemed to play his way out of his second half funk and ME was on fire. OJ finally had a good day and Godwin was Godwin. Then of course there is also Brate. That’s four incredibly talented end zone possession targets and a QB who seemed desperate enough to finally find his game.
Bottom line…and I certainly see your argument…it boils down to which gave us the better chance…trusting a rookie FG kicker who missed kicks already…or a red hot ME and JW combo along with Godwin..OJ and Brate as alternates. I like our chances in that match up better than I like any of our chance with anybody since Grammatica kicking.
But I concede you probably have the most accepted point. But that’s because folks don’t know the Bucs storied history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
September 25th, 2019 at 7:25 pm
BA has an answer for everything, sometimes it’s just not the truth, especially when he, or one of his designated coordinators, has made a clear error in judgement
3 games, 3 times its happened
My parents taught me to ignore words and observe actions, that is what speaks loudest
The confidence meter is waning quickly…
September 25th, 2019 at 7:55 pm
It’s history. Can’t change it. Move on, you bunch of crypusses.
September 25th, 2019 at 8:06 pm
Clean JB—
You’re an ankle-biting idiot who needs to emerge from your parent’s basement. For God’s sake, you’re 26 years old already. Enough Fort Night. Enough whacking off to EorPorn.
Time to grow up.
September 25th, 2019 at 8:37 pm
Look, it’s really damn simple.
Year six for Jason Licht, and we continue to lose by the same outcome: piss poor secondary, despite several draft picks, and crap kicking. 💩 kicking 💩
Despite, a 2nd and a 5th round picks being spent on a kicker, we are doing alright.
I want to lose because of a different outcome for my team- with a GM in year 6.
I’ve had enough of the “rinse, lather, shart yourself, repeat” Buccaneers teams. I give Jameis a lot of hell, but he can’t kick or play DB, but Licht (over?)drafted his cousin- Sean Murphy-Bunting.
Mark Dominik was fried for less, and he had a fraction of salary cap to spend. I’m just so furious that I’m a league meant to keep you right in the middle, we can’t get out of our own damn way with the same damn mistakes.
That loss was unacceptable on so many levels. That felt like Lovie Ball. Another loss like that, and it’s on like donkey Kong.
As a jaded fan, why can’t the Bucs get out of their own way, ever?
The Glazers still look like fools for firing Chucky. I wish he wasn’t fired. Man won us a SB and haven’t sniffed playoffs since. They fired chucky to save $ for a couple of uncapped nfl years so they could buy Man U. I get it, you’re billionaires and you didn’t get there by being bad at business, but you are bad at winning and that is a bottom line. Imagine if your football team’s success rate was your business’? Yeah, you’d be “Cleveland Brown” broke.
Fix it, now Mr. Licht.
September 25th, 2019 at 9:17 pm
I love the idiots who call people not fans for losing their minds over this BS!!!! So happy for you all calm and the glass is half full!!! Way to go!!! News flash, the glass is broken and has been for years!!!!!!! SORT IT OUT, THIS IS A GD NIGHTMARE AND I CANT WAKE UP.
-True Fan Sick of this $h!t
September 25th, 2019 at 9:49 pm
Buc Cheeks & Steve K… spot on, jason licht has had 6 years to bury this team & 3 coaches; think arians woulda been a great hire when the bucs got raheem, now he is golf cart guy with a crappy OC; look at all the winning franchises how they build and draft… licht gets DBs, TEs & kickers, a clear recipe for 5-11
September 25th, 2019 at 11:11 pm
I said it before and I will say it again. This is absurd. As a former kicker and a longtime soccer player it can’t come down to my preference. You train and adjust to the situation. You duplicate any and all situations knowing full well you have to kick proficiently from any and all angles and if you’re lucky to have placement at your preference you have to convert. If it’s a bomb – I get it. 45 + yards out and things happen. Just like golf if you muscle up you lose technique. 33 yards out requires nothing more than clean contact with your head down and your hips open and square to the target.
September 26th, 2019 at 6:16 am
Bruce–you have to take a more active role in game planning and please put this kicker on a short chain .
September 26th, 2019 at 7:11 am
This loss was a blessing. It tells us the secondary isn’t totally fixed as Arians claims. It tells us maybe Arians should have stayed retired and isn’t the be-all, see-all answer to fix this team, and much less: Bruce Arians work with Jameis Wisnton for six months now does not see to have had any effect. Winston still runs the range of great plays with way too many mistakes. This is the beginning of a signal that will only get louder over the next three weeks that the Bucs needs to really clean house. Wait until ARI and IND come in here later this year and clean the Bucs clock. That will be the straw that….
September 26th, 2019 at 7:49 am
Yo dummies. Reality check. We lost to the Giants. They will win no more than 4 games this year. Two of those to the Skins.