An Edict
September 18th, 2019
QB politics.
For those Bucs fans that pray to their Supreme Being that each Sunday somehow brings the last day America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, ever wears a Bucs uniform, this post may not be for you.
It seems there is one man standing between the mob who wants to run Jameis out of town as if he was Myron Lewis, and Jameis potentially being your Bucs starting quarterback for years.
That man’s name is Bucco Bruce Arians.
Arians sort of gave an indirect hint what he thinks of Jameis’ job security when he was talking about the New York Giants and their changing of the guard from two-time Super Bowl MVP quarterback Eli Manning to rookie Daniel Jones.
Arians said he’s not a fan of changing horses midstream and hinted he wouldn’t ever do that, short of a direct order from higher up the team food chain than him.
“For me, it’d probably have to be an edict for me to switch because I’m way too loyal,” Arians said of the prospect of flipping starting quarterbacks.
Joe would guess such an order to bench Jameis — for who exactly??? — would have to come from someone with the last name “Glazer.”
And just for a brief Bucs history lesson in the not-so-distant past, the Bucs had the worst defensive coordinator in the NFL in 2017. Did you hear of any report that Team Glazer ordered disgraced former Bucs defensive coordinator Mike Smith to have his access card to One Buc Palace deactivated?
Quite the opposite actually. The team brought Smith back!
Just going by Arians’ words and recent Bucs history, it seems Jameis being benched this season is, well, unlikely.
September 18th, 2019 at 8:02 am
#JWnuthuggersunite
September 18th, 2019 at 8:11 am
Better yet Joe….we did not give up our first round pick for the Fins DB Fitzpatrick or for that matter Jaylen Ramsey. Reason why: Arians knows we need to draft a QB in next year’s draft.
September 18th, 2019 at 8:17 am
not this year but plan for a replacement for 2020…He’ll never take this team to the promised land. The roster isn’t that bad to plug in a “decent” QB…
September 18th, 2019 at 8:32 am
The light will go on for Jameis. ANY TIME NOW.
September 18th, 2019 at 8:33 am
JW will lead us to the playoffs this year with the guidance of BL…..BL wont have him throwing 35times a game and he wont abandon the run….
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 8:34 am
14 games to go. For most, the season is already lost at 1-1. Not me.
No reason to rush to judgement. Have a beer.
September 18th, 2019 at 8:34 am
With a good QB we should have lit the NFL up last season with all the O weapons we had. Winston will never get us to a super bowl he just isn’t that good.
September 18th, 2019 at 8:37 am
The only difference here is if Jameis really stinks it up and the team is totally out of contention early and the Glazers & BA have made the decision not to give any extension to Jameis…..and to draft a QB…..they may bench Jameis to get a good look at RG4….
But, doubtful….
September 18th, 2019 at 8:44 am
Joe…I understand the “sports drama” aspect of this. But I don’t think it is a “mob’ that wants Jameis out..just a few, mostly those that are so tired of losing they can’t spit. But only one thing can silence the chatter about dumping him this season or in the future….and that is winning…and winning consistently. For Jameis that means consistent play and consistent winning. The QB and HC’s are always the lightning rod in such things, getting more o the credit for victories, and blame for the failures. For a huge percentage of fans, I don’t think it is much more than that.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:02 am
Jameis is the best QB on the roster, good and bad. He’s going to get the start, like it or not.
Just hope that he plays well if you’re a Bucs fan. That’s all you can do. 14 more games to play!
September 18th, 2019 at 9:05 am
The bad news for you Jamies haters is he will at the very least be franchised after the season, but is more likely to be signed to a long term deal.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:06 am
I want Jameis to succeed !…however I won’t call his horrible history as a pro QB encouraging….after 4 years the glass is still half full some of the time and the flaws in his game have little to do with “coaching”
September 18th, 2019 at 9:17 am
We need 5 more years to see what we have in Jameis.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:22 am
ocala…no way of knowing that he will be franchised or receive a long term contract. Frankly, I hope so…because that means he has played consistently well enough to earn it. Just don’t fall for all the “coach speak” right now. Arians and crew are all hoping he will…but if not…they don’t say the NFL league really means the “not for long” league for nothing. Notice how Arians says the OJ interception is because the pass was too “high and hot”, and we can’t have that. So he isn’t oblivious to everything that is taking place…he will emphasize those things leading to success… he doesn’t have to tell us everything he is thinking.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:25 am
JW is here for 4 more years….. next year draft will be O line
September 18th, 2019 at 9:30 am
Being benched has almost zero to do with him not being signed after this season. With all the TRULY talented QBs coming in the next draft, the Bucs would be STUPID to continue with Winston….but….when have the Bucs ever been stupid before? ……oh crap.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:37 am
Pittsshore Says
“Better yet Joe….we did not give up our first round pick for the Fins DB Fitzpatrick or for that matter Jaylen Ramsey. Reason why: Arians knows we need to draft a QB in next year’s draft.”
You might believe that…but I think it is because he doesn’t feel we need Fitzpatrick…and we probably do not.
Still, I do think that first round pick is a safety blanket…just in case.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:40 am
Heh…I see no one is insisting we give Vinny a shot at starter, lol. I guess his one game was enough to convince people.
The irony is that almost any rookie brought in this year or next is going to turn the ball over even more than Winston. That;s usually what young QBs do.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:49 am
Yes it would be stupid to keep a five year starter, who is just turning 26 years old, works hard, cares and is good in the community, who is going into his second year in an offense with a coach that loves and trusts him and he feels the same way about. Yes that just sounds horrible when we could go with a complete unknown, not improve our Online at all and waste 2-3 years at best of the careers of Evans, Vea, Howard, Godwin, Marpet, Smith, Jensen, Hargraves, White, LVD etc…
September 18th, 2019 at 9:52 am
Yeah Ndog…and Winston’s track record is sooooo good, And I repeat…when have the Bucs ever made stupid mistakes? When has WInston made stupid mistakes?
Too many to even begin to count. If your crystal ball sees a Super Bowl victory in WInton’s future, I want what you’ve been drinking. He is what his record says he is, and projecting anything else is foolish, to say the least.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:56 am
If Arians is loyal enough to give Leftwich on the job training at the the expense of wins he will stick with Jameis all year
September 18th, 2019 at 9:57 am
Ndog… Don’t go overboard. Yes, he likes Jameis…has for years. Yes, I think Jameis likes him, and has for years. But love and trust? To a degree. IF he did as much as you say, he would have Licht sign him to a five year extension right now while the price is lower. So that isn’t quite accurate. He believes Jameis can be a great franchise QB…but he doesn’t know that. Jameis has to earn that, and validate Arians belief and trust. If he does, and every Buc fan should hope so, great. If not, the organization will move on. And for all we know, if Jameis isn’t deemed the answer, Arians might think those Carolina golf courses are better than the sideline. But don’t sell yourself on a reality that may or may not exist next year. We don’t know what is in the mind of Arians, Licht, or the Glazers.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:04 am
mark2001 Says:
September 18th, 2019 at 8:44 am
Joe…I understand the “sports drama” aspect of this. But I don’t think it is a “mob’ that wants Jameis out..just a few, mostly those that are so tired of losing they can’t spit. But only one thing can silence the chatter about dumping him this season or in the future….and that is winning…and winning consistently. For Jameis that means consistent play and consistent winning. The QB and HC’s are always the lightning rod in such things, getting more o the credit for victories, and blame for the failures. For a huge percentage of fans, I don’t think it is much more than that.
You are correct sir and is because they have no idea what they are watching, cause when it comes to football they are CLUELESS!!!!!
And they prove it everyday. 🙂
September 18th, 2019 at 10:06 am
Tranlation…”If you love Winston, you know football, if you don’t love Winston, you don’t know football”….Got it.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:06 am
Translation *
September 18th, 2019 at 10:07 am
I guess most professional football analysts don’t know football.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:17 am
They man know football, if they are tranlationist! 😜
September 18th, 2019 at 10:18 am
They man? LOL…that’s funny that you attempt to make fun of a (corrected) typo, …WITH A TYPO!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 10:23 am
Earth to Glaziers: can we stop the head coaching TOers every 2 years?
September 18th, 2019 at 10:27 am
If you’re going to replace JW, you do it in 2021’. Tua or Lawrence and that’s it.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:33 am
I don’t think I’ve ever met a Bucs fan who openly roots for Jameis to fail…
I’ve met plenty that want him to play better and play consistently well and be the reason they win rather than impede the team from winning. But this silly notion that people are openly rooting for him to fail is borderline stupid.
Who are you guys watching games with?
Watched week 2 with Ira at Bdubs no one was rooting against him. Watched week 1 in a sports bar in NYC with other fans no one rooted against him. Fans just expect players to get better and stop making the same mistakes
I call bs on this myth that people are openly rooting against him
September 18th, 2019 at 10:39 am
If only the O-line protected the inaccurate game manager qb as well as the sheep, ole stale biscuit, light weight and wacky joe does!!!!!!!!!! There would be no sacks all year long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! licht weight as created a pyramid scheme that will be exposed!!!!!!!!!! The soft schedule will not continue!!!!!!! and then we will get to see the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019 will reveal answers to the sheep, that the “real” fans already know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 10:43 am
Analysts…please…don’t get me started on that. For instance..game analysts…
I don’t need an analyst to tell me it is a good tackle, or a high fast ball on what should be a touch pass…or that someone missed an open receiver…or that a receiver didn’t catch the ball with his hands…or that a RB/TE/OL missed a block.
I need one to tell me what the coverage was and who had what responsibility, who didn’t get out to his spot on a pattern, what play would have been more effective against a certain coverage, and such. You know, a little more of the real thought process behind a play.
I’ve often wondered what a NFL QB really thinks when watching a play on TV or the press box, really is seeing, what the QB at game speed really saw or didn’t see and why. I liked seeing part of that Bucs/’ Carolina game behind Jameis for a while, because you could really see the speed of the game rather than from up in the clouds. I know that probably is boring to the “good tackle” crowd, and such. And I heard Romo do it a year or two ago, and it was cool. And heard Booger do it on a game this last week. lAnd I know most these guys really know but don’t say. But…oh well…nice tackle…dropped the ball…pass too high….often boring and superficial analysis. I guess I just know too much in some aspects and too little in others…such is life.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:53 am
Gosh,
I don’t know how I’ve managed to watch and enjoy football for 45 years…me being clueless and all.
Thank God there is an Ndog to set it all straight for everyone.
The world will never be able to repay that debt.
September 18th, 2019 at 11:10 am
A lot of assertions posing as facts, which is standard fare here. So far were batting .500, losing a game we’d thought we’d win and winning a game we thought we’d lose. We’re very encouraged by our defense but how many touchdowns have we scored thus far? We won one with a solid defense against a gimpy opposing QB who is now benched, and we have not played a good team (like the Rams) yet. Stay tuned…
September 18th, 2019 at 11:13 am
Loyalty in the NFL only goes so far as PERFORMANCE.
Arians is just saying the politically correct things to give Winston the best chance at maintaining his confidence.
But if Winston stops performing well, he’s DONE on this team. No way they resign him to a big contract. Licht and the front office aren’t stupid, they know how the SALARY CAP matters. If you sign an underachieving QB to $30M+/year, then you know the MATH is against you. You will have very little chance at making the playoffs on a regular basis AND the team (as a business) will financially suffer. Tickets won’t sell, attendance will be way down, concessions revenue will be down, and so will sponsorships.
September 18th, 2019 at 11:16 am
The Bucs should have locked Jameis up on a 3 year $85mil contract BEFORE Goff got paid … not doing so will probably cost them $15+ mil over the next (3) years, which means they’ll have to have some low-round rookie starting over a current starter in 2020-2022 to balance the cap.
All the low-IQ fans who bashed Jameis hurt the team’s cap for the next 3 years …
September 18th, 2019 at 11:18 am
Winston’s last 8 1/2 games.
15 TD’s/ 5 real interceptions
Read it and weep.
I know if those stats were reversed we’d be hearing from the Winston Derangement Syndrome simpletons on a daily basis.
September 18th, 2019 at 11:21 am
The Nuthuggers are riding high!
He didn’t really do anything to help us win….
he just didn’t sh!t the bed last week.
High standards.
Wow.
September 18th, 2019 at 11:25 am
“All the low-IQ fans who bashed Jameis hurt the teams salary cap for the next 3 years “
Seriously Dude?
Megalomania…Google it.
September 18th, 2019 at 11:31 am
What is a non real int…? And how many fumbles?
September 18th, 2019 at 11:38 am
This is the same coach and player the coach said he won’t have anyone as a QB backup who would make Winston looking over his shoulder. Is our Franchise QB that mentally weak? What is wrong with competition? Yes, even for the Franchise QB. What other player or position has no player breathing down their backs to be the starter? Why is it that our #1 draft choice and starting fifth year franchise QB can’t have anyone pushing him to get better or be second string? Is his emotional state that bad? I hope we see major improvements in Winston’s performance and decision making during the game.
If we do see improvement, Franchise him and make him show us he can do it again, but with a freshly drafted QB pushing and working to take that #1 QB position. If Winston can not deal with that pressure , move on.
I just do not understand why the best QB we Bucs fans have had, can not take the heat of competition.
SHOW ME!! no more talk about what you will get better at, SHOW ME you have already learned and are creating the only stats that matter. WINS!
GO!!! BUCS!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 11:48 am
realist
if only you washed BA’s golf cart as good as you wash smittys draws!!!!!!!….lol….
BL & TB have exposed dirk & smitty!!!!!!!!!!!…..
with great game planning and persistence we have a running game!!!!!!…..
with great coaching and development we have a solid defense!!!!!!!…..
with playing to players strength, players are productive!!!!!!!!….
dont change tunes now chump!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO BUCS!!!!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 12:00 pm
Let the human ATM (America’s turnover machine), one time alternate to the pro bowl due strictly to injury, play every single down. Either we win or lose with him and make him filthy rich or jettison him if we suck. Go Bucs!
September 18th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
The wheels on the bus go ’round and ’round……some buses are just shorter than others!!!
I’m a Bucs fan. All I care about is winning. It can be with, or without Winston. I don’t care. JUST WIN BABY!
September 18th, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RustyRhinos… Take a look at Tom Brady. Also look into why Bret Favre refused to help Rodgers. I agree with you that they should be able to handle it, but they do not react the same as some other positions.
Without a running game or a defense it is still kind of hard to figure out what to do with JW. It looks like both of those areas are improved with the new schemes. Let’s see how it pans out.
September 18th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
LOL @ July Joe!
All the low-IQ fans? You mean nearly single NFL Analysts that does this for a living?
It’s so funny…
From reading the comments on this site you’d think every (actual) expert analyst was ranking Winston in their Top 3 QBs in the league and yet you still have a few fans on this site saying “No, they’re wrong, he sucks! I understand football better than the experts!”
Yet it’s the OPPOSITE.
The Winston-Homers claim as if any fans that criticize him (AND these NFL experts) are DEAD WRONG on Winston and that they know better that Winston is great!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. It’s just… so… humorous. Yet sad at the same time.
September 18th, 2019 at 12:43 pm
@McBuc
Last I checked, the Defense isn’t on the field when Winston has the ball and a chance to do something. The Defense isn’t on the field when Winston fumbles, holds the ball too long, throws inaccurate passes, or throws INTs to give the other team better field position (or sometimes instant points on a Pick Six).
September 18th, 2019 at 12:56 pm
Oh BucsBandit where are you going to go if Jameis is here next year? I mean are you going to actually cheer for the guy or continue to hope my team loses just so you feel right? Try enjoying the game and actually watching what happens instead of looking for something to blame on the QB. Heck you might learn something.
Ahh who am I kidding you learn something…….now that’s rich.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:01 pm
Ndog is the greatest football mind in the History of Football.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:02 pm
The defense getting rolled and forcing the offense to be one dimensional is most certainly part of the problem. Any QB that is forced to throw all the time will turn the ball over, and playing from behind with defenders coming in fast and hard because you have no running game to help slow the plays helps casue fumbles. It is all related. I am not 100% sold on JW because he keeps making those crazy get rid of the ball plays that end up in INT or penalties. The offense had it’s issues the last couple of years, but the defense was so bad it was impossible to overcome. You can win shootouts every week, unless maybe you are the greatest show on turf, which if you remember the Bucs were great at slowing them down. Anyway, we all do not have to agree, but the play of all three aspects of a football team effect each other. feild position, taking away the running game, not being able to stop the other team or defend a lead, these all add up the the total.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:03 pm
You cannot win shootouts every week…
Also, it looks like the running game and defense are coming around, so maybe we will see something better out of JW this year as we continue the season.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:07 pm
For those of you that question the lack of coaching leadership and accountability on the part of Koetter, just remember the game where Jameis thumped the other players helmet, and Evans had to stand up and tussle with an opposing player. The officials were reaming Evans while Koetter sat on his hands. That was the last straw for me…can you imagine that happening under Arians? He’d have been on these officials case, standing up for his guys. And before they took their beef into their own hands, they would think twice, as they know that Arians was in their corner taking care of business. And that was his job. The team was a mess…poor coaching…no leadership or management skills. At that point I also knew that we had no idea about our young players and what we really had in terms of talent…they didn’t have a decent HC to work with. And BTW..I said it last year, if any of you recollect.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:11 pm
Thanks Jmarkbuc but I just prefer to look at myself as understand the game and not looking at things with a predetermined lens. You see when a guy sucks I say he sucks, when he doesn’t I say he doesn’t it really is that simple. Yet that seems to be really hard for some people.
For instance Jameis sucked out loud last year vs the Bengals point blank. This year he made one really crappy pass on the screen to Dare but other than that he has been average with some really good throws and one or two great throws. See that really isn’t that hard, just like OJ has played like trash for the most part BUT he made a great block on the Barber TD. It’s not about liking a player it is about what actually happens and not just following a narrative that other people have gotten you to believe. It’s really sad that people don’t understand the game enough to get that. I couldn’t care or less who the QB is but the problem on this team, for the most part, has not been the QB but that’s ok that’s what’s easy to believe and scream about and as we all know lazy/clueless people will always take the easy way out.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:21 pm
Ndog
Wow, just Wow.
But you certainly are right about this
” but other than that he has been average “
September 18th, 2019 at 1:27 pm
rusty
patriots traded jimmy g because brady got tired of looking over his shoulder…..
The New England Patriots’ trading Jimmy Garoppolo this season was a resounding commitment to Tom Brady.
An ESPN report published Friday revealed that coach Bill Belichick wanted to see Garoppolo succeed Brady one day but was ordered by management to trade him.
Previous reports have said Brady viewed Garoppolo as a threat and was not helpful in mentoring him.
GO BUCS!!!!!
September 18th, 2019 at 1:29 pm
Of course he has been average, it’s a new offense to all of them, that’s why most of the offense has been average. Has Evans looked good, has OJ looked good, has any player not named Godwin or Marpet looked anything above average the first two games? That being said if everyone holds on to the ball during that Carolina game Jameis has 3TDs for about 325 and 1 pick in a win. That would have been by most standards a great night but as it was it stands as an average night with a win, which I’ll take everyday. I’m sure most don’t care as the only thing that will make them happy is 400 yards 4TDs 0 picks and a win but on most days that’s just not realistic.
September 18th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
@BucsBandit,
You’re clueless.
The QB Whisperer came out of retirement for JW.
QB Guru Kyle Shanahan raves about JW.
HOF QB Kurt Warner raves about JW.
The people who bash him are idiot “fans” and lazy talking-heads on TV that simply look at the league standings and tell stories.
Have fun riding with goof-balls.
September 18th, 2019 at 2:07 pm
2015/2019 age
Brady 38/42
Brees 36/40
Rivers 34/38
E Manning 34/38
Big Ben 33/37
A Rodgers 32/36
M Ryan 30/34
Flacco 30/34
Dalton 28/32
Stafford 27/31
Cousins 27/31
Wilson 27/31
Newton 26/30
D Carr 24/28
Mariotta 22/26
Winston 21/25
16 QB’s who started 4 years + this 2019 season
So these are the QB’s Winston should be compared to. So when they say Winston leads the league in interceptions since 2015 they are comparing him at age 21 to players who are older and more experienced. Lazy sports media has fueled the Winston is a turnover machine. All these guys weren’t even in the NFL at 21 years old. I haven’t even mentioned the team Winston has been playing on the last 4+ years. Jameis Winston is only going to get better and will sign a long term deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It’s going to happen so just deal with it Winston Derangement Syndrome simpletons.
September 18th, 2019 at 2:09 pm
July…I think you are wrong about the Arians coming out of retirement for Jameis statement. I’d have to say he did for Licht, the deel the Glazers put forward for him, the fact he could get most of his old coaches back together, and the promise of a underutilized talent team, with Jameis being a guy he liked and thought had skills to develop into a good or better QB.
Regarding the rest, I don’t care what those guys think his potential is. “Opie”isn’t exactly a Rhodes Scholar. But as long as he does his part to make the Bucs a winner, I’m fine with that.
September 18th, 2019 at 2:17 pm
Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, Kurt Warner, and Ty Detmer, All at the same time on the same Packers 1994. Sure…Ron Wolfe didn’t know QB talent..
September 18th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
BTW.. we were interested in Kurt Warner, but the Packers signed him. Can you imagine if we had him as our QB from the mid 90’s to the early 2000’s? Components of the greatest show on turf and the Tampa Tow D in it’s prime at the same time? Wow.
September 18th, 2019 at 2:22 pm
Tampa two sp… no edit..drat….
September 18th, 2019 at 2:27 pm
@Mark2001,
As long as you bring Holt, Bruce, Faulk, Bolden and Fitzgerald along. Interesting that Warner struggled as a NY Giant when he didn’t have these guys. How this guy made the HOF is beyond me. He had 5 maybe 6 good years.
September 18th, 2019 at 2:41 pm
Dman…true about those guys…but the O all goes through the QB. Had they had Shaun King at qb, I doubt they would have been the greatest show on turf.
September 18th, 2019 at 3:20 pm
I love Kurt Warner BUT he was benched by THREE different teams and cut by another … Jameis is way more talented than warner was … and Warner knows that.
September 18th, 2019 at 3:38 pm
@Ndog – PUHLEASE. You’re the one viewing things through a biased lens. I’ve never seen you criticize WInston much nor put attention to the fact that he has played HORRIBLE in many games or many stretches of play (not just the Cincy game). You fail to see the BIG PICTURE of Winston’s NFL play…
Success in the NFL isn’t about stretches during a game or a few games here or there, it’s about the overall CONSISTENCY of the QB. They all have bad games or bad plays, but when you look at the total resume, that’s what matters. Winston’s resume is AWFUL. His turnovers are a MAJOR problem.
Winston is the equivalent of a pro golfer that on some days will shoot 2 or 3 under going into the 18th hole and then repeatedly takes a quadruple bogey on the last hole. You’d still be here saying how great he is for 17 holes, just as good as other NFL QBs, but you fail to focus on how bad he sucks on the 18th hole which leads to a crappy round overall.
Jameis Winston is a TERRIBLY INCONSISTENT NFL QB. In addition to that, his inconsistency comes in the way of turnovers, which are a major liability in football.
YOU would be better off paying attention to the OVERALL game play and consistency of Jameis Winston and maybe YOU’D learn something about the game and about his play.
@July Joe – sometimes with the dumb things you say I wonder if you’re either a kid or you don’t really know football very well. Arians took the job for many reasons, including making MILLIONS per year and being involved again in the game he loved. I’d hardly say Winston was his primary reason for coming back to coaching, so get over your personal narrative and love for Winston.
@Dapostman – AGE has very little to do with NFL performance. It’s about EXPERIENCE. Most football careers are very short. Winston has already had FOUR YEARS of experience. That’s a lot. For him to still be making terrible mistakes, throwing inaccurate balls, turning the ball over, holding the ball too long, etc. is NO EXCUSE FOR HIS AGE.
September 18th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
@Ndog – ONE MORE THING…
You asked me what I would do if they sign Winston to a long-term contract?
I’ll tell you what I’ll do…
I’ll STOP watching and supporting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the first time in my life. I’ll stop supporting them until he’s gone.
WHY? Because I know it will be nothing but a WASTE OF MY TIME to continue to watch/support/spend money on a team that’s not going to make a run at another Super Bowl if Jameis Winston is the QB. And I know many other fans that feel the same way. He’s NOT the answer at QB to get us back to being a consistent playoff contender. He’s just not.
September 18th, 2019 at 3:46 pm
@BucsBandit,
As always you’re clueless.
Kurt Warner is in the Hall of Fame and was MORE INCONSISTENT than Jameis … maybe you didn’t follow his career but his entire HOF resume is built on a very short period of time when compared to his entire career.
Eli Manning will also end up in the Hall of Fame and his enshrinement will be based on TWO GAMES.
Favre was wildly inconsistent and his legacy was enhanced because of it … he had a few GREAT years but more years and moments that left his fans scratching their heads.
Not everyone is Tom Brady … many QBs, even those in the HALL OF FAME could be said to be inconsistent (Tarkenton, Moon, Fouts, Favre, Eli, Aikman, Young, Warner, etc) … DO SOME RESEARCH!
As for Arians, he has said he came out of retirement to coach JW and it was reported he turned down the Jets job.
Read the book “Jameis Winston Derangement Syndrome” for more details and to cure yourself of your own derangement …
September 18th, 2019 at 3:49 pm
@BucsBandit … JW’s extension is almost a guaranteed thing (as long as he doesn’t suffer a serious injury) and all the fans with a brain will be so happy to see YOU gone and supporting some other team.
BYE BYE BUCS BANDIT … thankfully Jameis will run YOU out of town and not the other way around!
September 18th, 2019 at 4:33 pm
Bandit you are clueless. My post points out that since 2015 that the other QB’s are older and more experienced than Winston when the clocks starts. Since 2015 R Wilson has started at QB aged 27-31 meaning he has already had 3-4 years experience before Winston even through 1 pass. You say you’ll stop watching the Bucs if Winston is resigned. BS. Why not stop watching them now? You’ve been watching Winston his whole career. Another Kobe Faker with the fake outrage or Chelsea Handler. Joke!
September 18th, 2019 at 5:48 pm
BucsBandit Says:
September 18th, 2019 at 3:38 pm
@Ndog – PUHLEASE. You’re the one viewing things through a biased lens. I’ve never seen you criticize WInston much nor put attention to the fact that he has played HORRIBLE in many games or many stretches of play (not just the Cincy game). You fail to see the BIG PICTURE of Winston’s NFL play…
Oh Bandit I see you posted again and have me yet another opportunity to prove you wrong. Don’t you get tired of that?
Below are my posts on the offense DURING THE GAME vs the 49ers. As always I call it like it see and use FACTS and in each case below I was proven correct by the head coach himself. Enjoy being wrong my friend, hahahaha.
Ndog Says:
September 8th, 2019 at 6:14 pm
That looked like a poor route. I was Peyton Barber after all, since when he know for his route running?
Ndog Says:
September 8th, 2019 at 7:07 pm
Here live no body is open. No one’s fault but it is what it is if you throw it it’s risky. What are you going to do?
Ndog Says:
September 8th, 2019 at 7:22 pm
Just can’t make that throw. Dare has to get out in that route but you still can’t just throw it hoping for the flag.
September 18th, 2019 at 5:52 pm
Oh yeah one more thing Bandit, you don’t have to wait for Jameis to get resigned you can just take all wrong posts and leave now. Trust me only a few clueless posters will miss you but most won’t at all. Bye bye.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:42 pm
@July Joe – Kurt Warner won NFL MVP *twice* and won a Super Bowl and took another team to a Super Bowl later in his career. Jameis’ resume doesn’t even come close. Nor does it come close to that of Eli or Favre.
@Dapostman – that age argument is weak. Most of the guys were WINNERS long before now. Wilson won 11 and 13 games, respectively, at age 24 & 25.
@NDog – your post with your “at the game” comments PROVES my point. 2 out of 3 of those comments were making EXCUSES for Winston. And the 3rd one you tried to put some blame on Dare. Again, you don’t criticize Winston much at all. Everyone on this site knows it. That makes you an Official Jameis Homer.
@July Joe – Winston getting an extension is no guarantee. He may get franchise tagged for next season, but a long-term extension (and the reason I’d stop watching them until he’s gone) is no guarantee.
September 18th, 2019 at 9:43 pm
@Ndog – ironically, more people agree with ME about how disappointing Winston is than agree with YOU.
100% FACT.
September 18th, 2019 at 10:24 pm
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September 19th, 2019 at 2:05 pm
Don’t read too much into coachspeak, Joe! Arians is too seasoned a coach to put loyalty aheaf of performance. JW will write his oen edict if he cannot master the skills of great NFL QBs (which are a bit different than those of great college QBs)
September 19th, 2019 at 9:43 pm
But he’s only 25 years old! By the time he’s 30, he’ll be better than Brady!!!! LOL