Tony Dungy Identifies “Jameis’ Problem”
August 23rd, 2019
Asked about Marcus Mariota on national radio this week, Father Dungy volunteered a take on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
Yes, Dungy believes Jameis can improve and be the Bucs’ true franchise guy, but Dungy got specific when it came to what Jameis needs to fix in his head.
“Jameis’ problem is he’s always carried the teams that he’s been on,” Dungy told CBS Sports Radio. “And I think what Coach Arians is trying to get across to him is, ‘We’re going to be good enough that you aren’t going to have to be a hero every single play of every game. You just have to play winning football and we’re going to be fine.'”
Joe can’t wait for real football to arrive. All the Jameis chatter is starting to hurt Joe’s head.
Is Dungy, who was Arians roommate and coaching brother with the Chiefs decades ago, saying Jameis couldn’t handle the pressure? Is he politely saying the Bucs had crap defense and no running or kicking game and it got in Jameis’ head? Is he saying he secretly believes the former coaching staff put too much on Jameis and it twisted his thought processes?
It would be nice to see how Jameis performs with an average running game and an average defense, and with a kicker who doesn’t make you cover your face and peek through your fingers.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:23 am
Really? FSU was an all-start team that overwhelmed other just on talent. Then Winston got to the NFL where parity rules and you cannot make dumb mistakes. And Jameis makes dumb mistakes that cost games.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:24 am
Dungy the clown commenting on offense especially quarterbacks has a much credibility as Elizabeth Warren explaining tribal etiquette to native American leaders….
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:28 am
Joe,
I always thought and always think that Jameis is putting too much on him.
Jameis has to be a leader, he is a QB, it’s include din the job description.
But he doesn’t have to be the only leader in the team !
Others players have to take theirs responsabilities and share this burden with him !
The less Jameis will have to take care of the team, motivating his aprtners and so on, the mor ehe will be able to focuse on HIS game and ficuse on doing better choices (stop the fumble and stupid throws).
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:28 am
Why is it a question? We all heard tell JW that he needed to be Aaron Rogers and don’t care if he is 22 years old.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:30 am
@Dewey
I think he’s talking about just the Bucs.
But it is a good comparison – when Winston actually had talent around him he went 27-1 over 2 years.
With an average defense, bad run game, bad weapons, and bad special teams he still had a winning season in 2016.
Just give us an average defense / average run game / average special teams please
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:32 am
Tony is correct – – THIS has to be a superior season for JW – – – team will not go 10-6 but the losses better NOT be the fault of our QB.
And Joe – – – most ALL pre-season and/or practice talk I just ignore. I respect all of you that write good stuff, but this time of year it is just so-so with regard to being vitally important. Same goes for the Jameis haters/lovers – – they are what they are.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:34 am
@Dewey Selmon have you watched any of the games where we took the lead with 4 minutes or less left in the 4 qtr and that historically bad defense gave up the cheeks???? I guess that’s JW’s fault too. Yes he makes mistakes, poor decisions etc. However not one of you can name a Buccaneer qb that was better.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:35 am
“There are 2 important positions and only 2 to build a winning franchise
QB and GM
QB cant win without players around him, and a GM cant win with good players without a good QB
the Colts and Browns was worse teams than the Bucs 2 years ago
they then hired Chris Ballard and John Dorsey as GMs
they are now playoff contenders for the next 7 years”
“Drafting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will get but it will be a bust”
Jason Gump
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:38 am
With all respect to Dungy, who should have a statue outside RJS – that isn’t Jameis’ problem. There are ONLY 3 things that make Jameis a question make by NFL standards:
1. His deep ball accuracy of 30+ yard attempts is the worst in the NFL. Period. Not one QB out of the 35 ranked with the minimum attempts was worse. What more can be said.
2. He defaults to instincts instead of smarts several times a game. It’s the same problem Fitzpatrick has had through his career. It DOES NOT MATTER how smart a guy is off the field. When the pressure hits and adrenaline is flowing some guys lose their smarts and default to instinct. If Jameis can’t break that, he’ll never peak beyond what his is now.
3. He’s not accurate enough. How many times to receivers need to adjust their routes to catch passes from him. He needs guys with a bigger catch radius to be successful. Before you say Adam Humphries, how often did he get targets further than 10 yards up the field? I can count them on 2 hands. That’s why when they draft a guy like Scotty Miller and say he’s intended to take the top off of defenses, I know in the back of my mind his chances of making an impact with Jameis are small.
That’s it. Aside from that he’s a terrific QB. If he could fix the issue with instincts the other two problems would be bearable. But to be elite he’s got to get all 3 under control.
I’m pulling for him to get it done.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:41 am
Why is there so little mention here that Licht got a 5 year contract extension ?
Wrote all about it. Talked all about it. Think it feels meaningless to a lot of people because it really was only a 3-year extension and the Glazers will do what they want regardless. They re-did his 2019 deal, added 2020, 2021, and 2022 (2023 is just an option). … –Joe
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:42 am
Kobe – QB sure but GM? How do you even rate GM’s? Are you saying Landry, Shula, Lombardi, Belichek, Nole, Walsh , I could go on… Matter less than a guy in the office?
GTFOH – your Licht bias is showing.
In BA I Trust!
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:43 am
I think it means Jameis sucks at the long ball and he won’t feel the need to throw so many of them during the game
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:56 am
Only a.complete idiot overlooks a 72% completion percentage allowed by our defense and blames it all.on the qb. Would you rather have a qb tgat DOESNT take risks and just checks it down with the other team scoring at will.
I try to.overlook these dumb comments but holy crap you clowns make head number trying to understand your though process (lack therof)
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:03 pm
tmax,
Though I’ve heard you say the Dungy the clown many times before, I must say……. it was one of your better posts!
Hateful, yet concise, spelled correctly and kinda funny with the EW Indian etiquette reference.
Keep up the good work!
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:08 pm
Dungy is saying what is evident – put aside the ego and understand that you don’t need to (because you can’t) do it all by yourself. Don’t throw the dumb pass. Don’t take the dumb sack. Live to play another down!
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Dewey right on…and jameis apologists he has/had a top 5 WR a top 5 TE..he had a guy last year that can take the top off the defense, the NFL is a pro offensive league the qb cannot be sneezed on without a flag. Mahomes had the NFLs worst defense a WR corps not as good as jameis and did what he did his 1st year as a starter. End of the day jameis is a middle of the league qb….dungy is an absolute great person but that doesnt make you a great coach or offensive guru; while dungy was in tampa the bucs would have been in at least 4-5 super bowls if he had half an idea about qbs and offense
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:09 pm
Hmmm… why is it everyone can see it except for the Most NFL ready QB , first overall all player drafted and too smart for Stanford guy ?
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:13 pm
while dungy was in tampa the bucs would have been in at least 4-5 super bowls if he had half an idea about qbs and offense
NO ONE WASTES HALL OF FAMERS LIKE DUNGY THE CLOWN!!!!! DID IT WITH SAPP IN TAMPA AND MULTIPLE PLAYERS IN INDIE!
dungy is an absolute great person
MIGHT WANT TO CHECK IN WITH THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT PAL!
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:35 pm
Kinda surprises the Bucs have never hired ….Father Dungy in some capacity since his retirement. But then again the rumor might be true…Tony says he is completely retired from the NFL.
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:44 pm
Jameis has NEVER carried a team
He’s not elite, he’s above average at his best and bottom 5 on his bad days.
Qbs who carry a team can throw it accurate and put their team in a position to win every week
With only being turnover free in 17 of 56 games Jameis doesn’t do that
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:45 pm
Dewey
Which one of JW’s teammates is setting the league on fire? I can name one maybe and that Darby. Heck even cook is struggling, Benjamin out the league, green never made it and his TE O’Leary is on his 3-4 team. COME ON MAN
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:47 pm
Dusty
Conveniently forgets he had one of the best RB, wr, and te in the league. Holmes didn’t have the worst def in nfl history either and prob had a decent kicking game with a career nfl coach who’s been successful at a high level for decades.
You guys are bums now GET ATTA HEEERE
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:49 pm
Oh and if dingy so good why isn’t he coaching. And before you start you dribble see Bruce Arians is family health and media BOOM
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:52 pm
DoooshLaRue
dude, i don’t hate dungy. I hate the fact he is given credit for failing and that he is made out to be this great human when he is just as F**ked up and has the same damn issues the rest of us do. He was a nice popular man but hardly great and damn sure not this perfect god like fool that the nutthuggers pretend he is. He has made negative public comments about groups of people including non religious people. His Michael Vick days were laughable at best. I don’t care about any one’s race or religious beliefs but if you go all public lecturing others how to live and non stop judging people you better have you own damn house in order top to bottom or you are hypocrite. dungy the clown is a hypocrite
but what I really truly do hate is the fact that dungy wasted 6 years of sapps career. bucs never had a chance with his coaching scared philosophy and inability to grasp offensive football and special teams. dungy coached a highly ranked defensive unit that was built for him by whyce on a bad team that even during the best days dungy coached teams could lose to anyone 9 to 7 or 10 to 6
August 23rd, 2019 at 12:58 pm
I don’t agree with Dungy’s assessment. I was at that home game in 2015 against Atlanta where Jameis ran 20 yards on 3rd-and-19 for a 1st down and then on the next play found Mike Evans in the end zone. At that moment I thought the Bucs finally had a leader and a franchise QB. Heck, at that point I believed the Bucs finally found a savior for this franchise. Where did that guy go? What happened to the guy I saw against Atlanta that said, “We’re not losing this f’n game today” with his play? I haven’t seen that Jameis in a very long time.
If Jameis cannot be the guy who carries the team when they need a score then he’s not the QB of the future.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:02 pm
I will play JRuss, I will say that Our super bowl QB Brad Johnson is a better QB the proof is in the super bowl trophy he helped us to win. In my mind that make Brad Johnson head and shoulders and the Lombardi trophy above Winston. Until that day when Winston raises that same trophy as a super bowl champion.
Go Bucs!
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:07 pm
Groundhog Day. Again. And if the stupidarse Glazers retain him (like they did Licht), it will be Groundhog Day again in 2020.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:13 pm
Where did that guy go? What happened to the guy I saw against Atlanta that said, “We’re not losing this f’n game today” with his play? I haven’t seen that Jameis in a very long time.
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He got beat to chit by all the MAGAfans I mean MEGAFANS in Tampa. You know the ones that always talking about off field arrests, unprofessional behavior, not winning enough games all while simultaneously sucking on Baker Mayfield’s nuts all day long. Just don’t call them acists bc they’re not, it’s just that their daddy came from a acist family. 😂🤣😭
Someone literally told me that yesterday, that her daddy didn’t want her to marry her husband bc her daddy came from a acist family. NEWS FLASH ITCH HES A ACIST. I’ve said too much. Lol. Now watch all the triggered acist come out.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:17 pm
db55
hang in there man…. deep breath smoke a bowl grab a shot and hug the wife jameis the 3rd most talented buc in franchise history is going to make the haters go away soon enough. unfortunately that piss poor defense will still keep bucs in basement and get jameis blamed for everything from global warming to the San Francisco homeless crisis.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:33 pm
“Tmax speaks the truth
Dungy cost 2-4 super bowls to the cities of Tampa and Indy
HOF generational talent with spineless participation award mentality Head Coach
how many super bowls have Gruden won if he came 4-5 years earlier…
probably 2 more titles
Dungy Statue at RJS?
more like 5 year restraining order to stay away 100 miles from the city of Tampa Bay”
Kobe Faker
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:33 pm
Dungy must have rewatched the Bucs season on Hard Knocks. He just quoted from Koetter’s guidance to his eager pupil JW. It didn’t seem to work then but I’m betting the 4+ coaches whispering very loudly in JW’s ear this year will make a difference. Fingers crossed for tonight: crisp execution and no injuries, please.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:39 pm
Max
I’m gonna hIt u on twitter so we can meet up.
August 23rd, 2019 at 1:41 pm
Typical tmax trying to make the story all about him and his views. He is not intelligent enough to understand that people have different views and opinions that do not fit his narrative. He reminds me of some of the type of people that I grew up with in the Tampa trash trailer parks. And trust me when I tell you, 5 years living at Colonial Coach Trailer park off of SHORE Pkwy, then moving the trailer to PITTSfield ave which is located in one of the roughest parts of Tampa (white trash)….Four Oaks RD off of Gunn Hwy. hence the name Pittsshore. I was able to escape the trash that I grew up in but tmax always “takes me back”. Do yourself a favor and take a drive into the Pittsfield Ave hood, you may just consider it home.
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:01 pm
Pitt
We all know your trailer park trash bro no need to broadcast it.
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Pittspray
I’ll add you to my xmas card list for the free space you give me in that wide open head of yours. you sir like dungy the clown are a hypocrite. At least my rants are based 100% on verifiable facts. you ranting about jameis is 100% the work of a holier than thou hypocrite….
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:10 pm
db55
i’ll be back in tampa in october for 6 weeks. beers on me….
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:14 pm
lol
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:20 pm
Dungy is correct, and if the defense isn’t the worst in the league, then you’re not going to have to see Winston trying to do everything himself. That’s the issue. Worst defense in football since 2015. We’ve seen only one strech, of 6 games, in Winston’s career when he had a good defense – and what did he do? He did his part, didn’t turn it over, moved the ball and got W’s. Give the kid a chance and you’ll win. Winston hasn’t been someone who has turned the ball over in the 4th in a tied game, but he is someone who will turn the ball over in the 3rd when the defense has given up 38 points when he’s trying to will the team back into the game.
That’s what the lazy slobs who just look at box scores don’t understand – and it’s why Winston was 4th in QBr last year, and if you remove the abortion of a game in Cinny, he leads the NFL in QBr. It’s the one stat that at least makes an attempt to account for the game situation when looking at stats.
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:23 pm
pittspray
i’ll rock the hood with you during my trip if you let me pick the girl for the first and last lap dance! when we are finished you will be wearing a Jameis Winston jersey and a big fat smile hoping to god that your wife did not leave you. it all be a blast…
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Pitssmore & TJmaxx feuding…
LOL! Talk about a sissy fight.
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:36 pm
tmax – have you ever met Tony Dungy? If so, you’d realize the only clown is you dude. Your immaturity shows through your childish words. You could learn a great deal from Tony in how to become a real man. Actions and behaviors reflect your true self.
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:36 pm
Rod Munch
another keyboard tough guy butthurt i am always right about his pathetic heroes…
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:38 pm
74 Bucs fan
i have meet him on multiple occasions… you are entitled to your opinions but he’s garbage in my book…
August 23rd, 2019 at 2:50 pm
74 Bucs fan
no offense but I guess it takes a lot less to impress you than it does me. the legend of dungy is like a fish story that grows bigger every year when in actuality the dude failed and wasted sapp for 6 years. all that good in the community nice guy crap is meaningless and so overplayed its laughable. he was paid to win championships not preach…. he failed and was replaced 4 years to late. anyone with a brain new after 2 years dungy was a pretender not a contender.
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:12 pm
“Jameis’ Problem” is just that he isn’t very good.
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:14 pm
tmaxcon Says:
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:24 am
Dungy the clown commenting on offense especially quarterbacks has a much credibility as Elizabeth Warren explaining tribal etiquette to native American leaders….
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Or as much credibility as your Toddler-in-Chief ordering ALL American companies to cease dealing with China. LOL
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:29 pm
No T Max don’t try and hide m…we know who you are HATER ASS MO FO! You are such a….AssWipe GO BUCS GO FAMOUS T MAX part your lips and let Dungy’s balls go!!
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:31 pm
@Lord C … “With an average defense, bad run game, bad weapons, and bad special teams he still had a winning season in 2016.” With all due respect LC, Jameis didn’t have a winning season in 2016 … the Bucs TEAM had a winning season. Had it not been for the defense SOMEHOW getting its’ act together in the last half of the season, Bucs would’ve had another 5-11 season. We won FOUR games in that stretch when our offense didn’t score 20 points (19, 14, 16, 17) and yet our defense held fast (17, 5, 11, 16). Had it been 2017 or 2018, we would’ve lost all FOUR games. Granted, overall the defense was average (#15 in POINTS ALLOWED), but in the 2nd half of that season they were outstanding.
Tmaxcon … you started off great with the Pocahantas quip. Not nice to chide Tony Dungy though. The defense that he & Monte created is the ONLY reason the Bucs ever even sniffed a Super Bowl. Personally I think his main problem was that he never had a QB worth a hoot until it was too late. Unless you believe that Trent Dilfer, Steve Walsh, Shaun King & Eric Zeier were world-beaters under center.
Louis Friend … GRRREAT analysis at 11:38 AM, especially #2 (defaulting to instincts). Personally think that #3 (accuracy) only applies to certain areas on the field (still can’t figure out why, maybe it’s his peripheral vision?). So many folks make excuse after excuse for Jameis (no defense, no run game, etc) but they fail to recognize that he’s been throwing to the best receiving corps in the NFL (and yes, most with a huge catch radius). The REASON we have a lousy defense & run game is quite obvious to me … follow the money. The lion’s share went to the OLine & WRs/TEs. The defense & RBs sucked hind teet.
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:41 pm
Joe, you should have ads for PMS pills. There’s so many school girls going at each other in these comments I’d swear they’re all cramping.
August 23rd, 2019 at 3:46 pm
DB55 and tmax: it’s not where you came from it’s where you are going. As an example I just topped off the boat ($3,800.00) this morning. That’s more than you make in a month. Enjoy moms home cooked meals tonight, and then mom…she’s not bad. My favorite line for her, “beauty is only a light switch away”.
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:04 pm
Jameis looked good in every preseason game he played last year. He looked poised to take that next step on only to miss a couple games due to suspension and then to sit behind Fitzpatrick. By then this team started spiraling out of control and we had 0 run game and an atrocious defense until Duffner took over. By then it was to late. I’m a hurricane at heart. Never like Jameis but I so believe with an avg run game defense and wayyyyyy better coaching he will be a top 10 QB on this league. Arians is just that good.
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:04 pm
jamarcus russell…Christian Ponder….EJ manuel….jameis winston….
i wonder what else they have in common besides being 1st round picks….
GO BUCS!!!!!
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:06 pm
Spot ON!!! FSU was TRASH before AND after Jameis. PERIOD!!! Decade each way now almost. Haters have ZERO answer for that. His oline at FSU, both years, were GARBAGE. his defense, year two, was abysmal. His wide receivers, that 2nd year, would be defensive backs later in their career. Ermon Lane for example. Go to bed, MAGA. I know it’s a bad time for you. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:17 pm
You are all buffoons.
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:20 pm
i’ll be back in tampa in october for 6 weeks. beers on me
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F the beer bring the dank. My bday weekend too!!!
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:24 pm
Just a note…..as a Bucs fan since 1986, anyone who trashes Tony Dungy is not a serious Bucs fan. No IFS…no ANDS….and no BUTS. Dungy’s transformation of this team into a WINNER is unassailable. And if Dungy tossed his hat back into the ring, teams would be lining up to pay him dearly for his services. That too, is not debatable.
August 23rd, 2019 at 4:53 pm
Sorry, I’ve made a mistake. Ole 44 was successful in lowering the sea levels. Or else he wouldn’t have just bought that 16 million dollar home in Martha’s Vineyard with 35 actress ocean front property. Not bad for a guy who said climate change would swallow up our coastal areas. Oh, and was still paying off his student loanswell into his 30’s.
Oh, and at some point you’ve made enough money. Funny how the socialists and marxists really turn out to be capitalists.
Just sit back while America returns to greatness. Ride the pine boys. Especially you Haynes.
August 23rd, 2019 at 5:51 pm
Jesus Christ people, I’m the most politically connected person in here and not even I rant about politics on here, in fact I literally watch sports to not have to hear politics. Chill out you bunch of cupcakes and save you political babbling for the glory hole at the interstate rest stop.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:12 pm
When Jameis was at FSU, I was sure he was the greatest QB in FSU history. It wasn’t until years later when I had a chance to reflect on the kind of talent that surrounded Winston as compared to the talent he played against, where I actually saw that Jameis COULD NOT CARRY A TEAM.
He struggled against the few good defenses he saw in college, especially his soph year when he didn’t have a great OL and the FSU’s defense couldn’t give him the ball back due to having a 3rd rate defensive coordinator (the guy who ultimately cost Jimbo Fisher his job).
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:19 pm
Nah man, after a while you gotta call these Obama lovers out. They get no free pass anymore. I don’t put mine out there until they do.
You see it. Not going anywhere.
August 23rd, 2019 at 11:20 pm
Glory hole rest stop. Classic.
August 24th, 2019 at 11:20 am
Slugglife, You’re a blithering Idiot. The great thing about this country is YOU are allowed to believe whatever you want. But that doesn’t change your total idiocy.
How about taking your rants to one of those White Nationalist websites you visit so often. You’d be much better served there than here, I’m sure.