Kurt Warner Coaching Jameis Winston
August 12th, 2019
All those voices inside the head of Jameis Winston at One Buc Palace — Byron Leftwich, Bruce Arians, Clyde Christensen, Bucco Bruce Arians — add another to the list.
He’s Hall of Fame quarterback Kurt Warner, the arm behind some of the best offenses the NFL has ever seen.
Warner was at One Buc Palace last week with NFL Network and one of his colleagues, Rhett Lewis, shared video on Twitter.
First there was Jameis talking about how Warner taught him about always having a go-to receiver and, as Jameis explained, that doesn’t mean Mike Evans in single coverage. Video below.
There’s also another video of Warner actually coaching Jameis on his mechanics in the media studio of One Buc Palace.
It’s raw and it’s a good one. Warner seems to be telling Jameis — and showing him — that he has the same balance issue in the pocket that Warner’s son has.
Check’em out.
Here in Tampa where @Jaboowins getting some extra work in after practice with our Hall of Famer @kurt13warner — great convo with the @Buccaneers QB live on @nflnetwork pic.twitter.com/CqChqVIiOn
— Rhett Lewis (@RhettNFL) August 7, 2019
Jameis Winston is ABSOLUTELY ready for the @Buccaneers preseason opener tmrw vs the @steelers – Live on @nflnetwork, 730pm EST pic.twitter.com/1qFnXC1OP1
— Rhett Lewis (@RhettNFL) August 8, 2019
August 12th, 2019 at 9:14 am
Let’s hope he can help America’s 24th Ranked Quarterback.
* #24 is the average ranking among 2019 season QB rankings from Sporting News, CBS Sports, NBC, Athlon, etc.
August 12th, 2019 at 9:16 am
Photo op.
It’s one thing if a great QB like Warner has a tip or two–it’s another thing when he’s talking about balance and weight distribution to a QB who already has dedicated coaches he works with every day. This is just for the cameras.
Nod and smile Jameis…Kurt look active. LOL
August 12th, 2019 at 9:17 am
I watched Warner play with the Iowa Barnstormers in the original Arena Football League. Orlando Predators usually beat them. He was good but there were other talented players, too.
August 12th, 2019 at 9:18 am
Less is more seems like the best formula for jameis as it seems that his best work has been when jimbo was in his face all the time for the one year that made jameis the #1 overall pick
August 12th, 2019 at 9:26 am
It’s all for naught!
August 12th, 2019 at 9:42 am
So his son is also worthy of being a first overall pick?
August 12th, 2019 at 9:59 am
maybe if jameis wife gets a supercuts makeover like kurts old lady rocked during the championship year bucs would have hope…. building a oline with other teams garbage when cuts begin has about the same chance of helping bucs as the above mentioned supercuts makeover…
August 12th, 2019 at 9:59 am
Jameis has been playing Qb since 7 or 8 years old. If he doesn’t know to keep his weight on his back foot during a drop back we have bigger problems than we thought. I think he knew this and was giving Warner respect by keeping his mouth shut.
August 12th, 2019 at 10:01 am
jameis will be fine right up until that garbage oline gets him killed
August 12th, 2019 at 10:02 am
@Kurt Warner … “Great QBs have the ability to make the big plays consistently. They have the ability to avoid the big mistake.”
Hmmm, nice set up Kurt. Jameis is very good at making big plays. CONSISTENCY has been an issue for Jameis, as a result of BIG MISTAKES (as in ‘turnovers’?). But Kurt didn’t go there (thankfully). Jameis’ response about always having a go-to receiver floored me. I thought that OCs ALWAYS designed pass plays with checkdown options. Perhaps not.
August 12th, 2019 at 10:09 am
I have great respect for Kurt Warner so appreciate his taking his time to counsel Jameis to be better. I also agree with BA that when Jameis has an OL that will protect him and has a good defense to count on along with a dependable place kicker, Jameis will show he is a winner. BA is making that happen too and you saw the result against Pittsburg’s first string defense with an excellent MLB too. We have a Franchise QB!
August 12th, 2019 at 10:20 am
Yes it’s a photo op, but I also feel like if a HOF QB starts handing out advice, just listen, which is exactly what he did. Good on you Jameis
August 12th, 2019 at 10:37 am
Winston was rated 30th by USA today … he has to be better then that ! right
August 12th, 2019 at 10:39 am
Bandit I know you did not just use NBC and CBS as a source to rank NFL quarterbacks. Talk about killing your own credibility.
August 12th, 2019 at 10:44 am
That’s pretty basic QB mechanics. Pretty sad that Jameis is still guilty of what Warner’s talking to him about. Ugh.
August 12th, 2019 at 10:53 am
@Primech54
The NBC ranking (where Jameis was ranked #27) was analysis done by Chris Simms.
Chris has been a fantastic NFL analysis/expert and really knows the game, especially the QB position.
I’ll trust Chris Simms’ expert opinion over yours.
August 12th, 2019 at 11:07 am
chris simms expert lol…. wow bucfan has NO standards… decent tv guy but hardly a football guy… he’s a son of a great football player first and football player second… so is being the president of the chris simms fan club a paid gig or are you simply interning at his PR firm?
August 12th, 2019 at 11:48 am
Hall of Fame QB Kurt Warner (who was benched by three different teams and was cut by one team) raves about Jameis Winston and says the sky is the limit for him.
Bruce Arians (2x NFL Coach of the Year & noted QB guru) has raved about Jameis Winston for years.
Jake Arians said Jameis was the only QB Bruce would have come out of retirement to coach as he believes he can win it all with him.
Kyle Shanahan (noted QB Guru) raves about Jameis Winston as says he can do things that coaches don’t even think are possible.
Yet, as @BucsBandit pointed out, the media has JW ranked as the 24th best QB, despite the FACT that JW was top 5 in Raw QBR and was #1 in the entire NFL on 3rd downs and under pressure.
No wonder a BOOK such as:
JAMEIS WINSTON DERANGEMENT SYNDROME:
How the Media Causes Us to Overlook the Start of a Hall of Fame NFL Career
was written! It is needed, as the media and MANY fans are clueless when it comes to Jameis Winston.
August 12th, 2019 at 11:51 am
“Chrissy had Josh “wheres the ball going” Allen at 19
Cornerbacks and sideline reporters have equal chances of catching a throw from Allen”
Kobe Faker
August 12th, 2019 at 11:51 am
Was just looking at the play by play of the Bucs/Rams championship game from ’99. We hold Warner and his offense who had been lighting up the league to 3 measly freaking points until late in the fourth quarter (we also gave up a safety for total of 5 points) and then Warner completes a 3rd and 4 from the Buc 30 for a touchdown.
We’re now down 11-6 but Shaun King gets us to the Ram 22. Then a 13 yard loss on a sack… and then the famous Bert Emaneul no catch… and then it’s over.
What an incredible defensive effort. So close to winning that one. –Thank God we won it all three years later.
August 12th, 2019 at 12:19 pm
@BucsBandit
You mean the same guy that has Tom Brady and Drew Brees ranked behind Andrew Luck, Matt Ryan, and Cam Newton. Yeah, you go right ahead and trust his analysis. This is exactly why nobody trusts yours, because in your attempt to discredit Jameis you leave out facts like this to support your argument. We ain’t buying it.
August 12th, 2019 at 12:31 pm
And then you double down with Chris Simms as your end all be all reservoir of expert knowledge on quarterbacks. Hilarious!!!!!!!! Seriously, you attempting to dismantle my point by using Chris Simms as your safety blanket and thinking it to be effective has been the highlight of my day. You can’t make this stuff up!
Why don’t you ask Chris what he thinks about Jameis being top 5 in QBR on a losing football team. Or elite when being pressured. Or the most efficient quarterback in football on third down.
Thanks for the laugh.
August 12th, 2019 at 12:36 pm
Bucsbandit would rather trash the QB of his favorite team than support him.
Tune in tomorrow for more of the same….
Quite ridiculous I know, but it is what it is…
Go Bucs!
Go America’s Quarterback Jameis Winston!
Jameis Winston is thee ONLY way this team is ever going to win any games this season so we all better dayum well hope he does well…
Not all of us do of course. They want to be right..they want picks and fumbles. This I’m confident in.
Winston Derangement Syndrome Goon Squad!
August 12th, 2019 at 1:52 pm
Oh, that’s right. “Too many voices in his head.” That’s another apologist excuse for why Winston hasn’t cut it. Can’t believe I forgot that one. Will add that back to the list later. That said, Kurt Warner couldn’t be bad for anyone. That’s one of the best examples of the Great American Dream out there. He earned it, kept it. Didn’t toss it away.
Speaking of which, July Joe, this is the ONLY screen name I’ve used ever on JBF, and I don’t post on other sports or news sites…or any really. You said I’ve been “shown” to have multiple screen names…where you get that idea? Yeah, your other side has accused me of that, but that’s not accurate. So, name one other screen name I use here/have used here. You just can’t seem to believe more than one person isn’t all in on Jameis. And…to further comment on your response to a previous post…the “four rough” years with Winston regard the whole package guy…from before he got here though last season. You seem to thing everything evolves around stats. Big picture and results are what matter in the real world, and there are non-quantifiable qualities that get evaluated. So “four rough years” means ALL of that. Stats are for losers.
August 12th, 2019 at 2:00 pm
Get help somewhere!
August 12th, 2019 at 2:35 pm
Even if “stats are for losers” which they aren’t since many QBs who won rings aren’t in the Hall of Fame and guys like Moon and Fouts who never even played in a Super Bowl are in the Hall of Fame, Jameis going 9-7 as a 22 year old with no run game and having a better record than Brees and Ryan would not qualify as a “rough year” in your book.
You’ve been shown to be a clown that doesn’t understand stats, is illogical and yes, uses multiple screen names as in the first thread I was in and you and like four other screen names all ganged up on me and I called you on it, you all vanished … if there was really four of you, some would have stayed … you’re a clown.
August 12th, 2019 at 2:40 pm
SHUT UP “July Joe”!
My beloved cuddle-bunny @magadude knows JAY-MISS is worse than Will Grier and that QBs with less talent who have done nothing are better than JAY-MISS and his kind!
@magadude knows that simply being the ONLY qb who has ever played the game of football to start his career with back to back 4,000 yard seasons and the youngest Pro Bowl QB in the history of football is PROOF that JAY-MISS “can’t cut it”!
YOU are an idiot “July Joe”; me and @magadude know that being #1 in the entire NFL on 3rd downs and under pressure is something TRASH qbs do!
We want a QB who will be WORSE on 3rd down and under pressure than JAY-MISS is because THAT will lead to more wins … obviously!
WE WILL RUN JAY-MISS AND HIS KIND OUT OF TAMPA FOR WE ARE LEGION!
August 12th, 2019 at 2:41 pm
idk for sure but I think JW did what Warner said in the preseason game–replay the the first Buc series and check JW footwork-very hoppity for him–tiny hops in place so fast you can hardly see them.
August 12th, 2019 at 2:51 pm
The real truth is that football is ONLY about stats and those who say “stats are for losers” are literal idiots (there isn’t a nicer word to describe them).
Points scored is a stat
Points allowed is stat
The last time I checked, the team with the most points and therefore the team that allowed the least points, wins the game.
Yards, 3rd down conversions, passer rating on 3rd downs and under pressure, QBR (measures everything), etc., all factor into which team ends up with the most points and allows the least points. Football is a game of stats, period.
ALL players salaries and contracts are based on STATS .. every single one of them.
Those who say “stats are for losers” are simply idiots … we should all feel sorry for them and hope their brains develop one day.
August 12th, 2019 at 3:19 pm
Name the screen names. I remember the accusations. It came the same day of Joe’s article about your book, that I highly recommend every Bucs fan buy. So again, I’m telling you to name the other names that you think I use.
Call me names, that doesn’t bug me. It’s your speed. But name the screennames.
Calling me an idiot is fine, but it doesn’t change the fact stats are for losers. They look good on bubble gum cards or in poorly organized books.
Yeah, that 9-7 year was great…they sure took home the gold didn’t they? The parade and fanfare was amazing. Not. You should learn to live in reality, weigh all things, focus on actual results. Add this too: Losers revel in mediocrity. Results from evaluating and making decisions on the big picture are what make the world turn.
August 12th, 2019 at 3:23 pm
Just post the screen names you claim I, Magadude uses…
I have other stuff to do. Have to run. Have business stuff to do. I waste time arguing stats with you and how that 10th of a percentage point that proves greatness (if only anyone listened)…and never amount to anything…
Or I can work in results. Which is great!
August 12th, 2019 at 3:30 pm
@magadude
Points scored and points allowed are both STATS … football is ALL and ONLY about stats.
You just claimed above that even JW’s 22nd year old 9-7 season didn’t mean anything because there was no “gold” as in a ring. By that logic, in your warped mind, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostettler and other garbage QBs who won a ring were better QBs than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon and other HALL OF FAME QBs that didn’t win a ring, which means, you’re a plain and simple idiot (there isn’t a nicer word for me to use) and there is no point in even debating with you, as you don’t understand that football isn’t a 1-on-1 game.
As for the screen names … you know all the ones you use … they didn’t all just vanish at the exact same time if they were all separate accounts … clown.
August 12th, 2019 at 3:40 pm
You get all triggered because I call you out for having multiple screen names but you pretend that I and the author of the book are the same person? Dude, I’ve been posting on her daily and the author took a vacation and went silent on Twitter for over a week. We’re not the same person. I may know the author and may even know Jameis personally, but even if if I do, so what, tons of people do.
You are the anonymous clown on this site that tries to rip others for being anonymous and has proven over and over and over again that you don’t know anything about football in general, let alone QBs in particular. You’re a clown.
August 12th, 2019 at 3:41 pm
Points scored and points allowed are both STATS … football is ALL and ONLY about stats.
You just claimed above that even JW’s 22nd year old 9-7 season didn’t mean anything because there was no “gold” as in a ring. By that logic, in your warped mind, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostettler and other garbage QBs who won a ring were better QBs than Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, Warren Moon and other HALL OF FAME QBs that didn’t win a ring, which means, you’re a plain and simple idiot (there isn’t a nicer word for me to use) and there is no point in even debating with you, as you don’t understand that football isn’t a 1-on-1 game.
As for the screen names … you know all the ones you use … they didn’t all just vanish at the exact same time if they were all separate accounts … clown.
August 12th, 2019 at 3:43 pm
SHUT UP “July Joe”, leave my cuddle-buddy alone! He is super smart and you are not! He never uses multiple accounts, I mean, he changes the “name” he posts under all the time, but that’s not using multiple accounts in my book, so SHUT UP “July Joe”!
August 12th, 2019 at 5:03 pm
Tmax just said Bucsfan has no standards. Hes not a Bucs fan.Its in his words that he revales his true intentions. Hes not here to talk football.His a troll from another team fan base. That has his own power struggle issues. He will never like the Bucs. But the good thing is he will be gone soon enough. Hidding under his rock. Because the Bucs are back to make some noise under BA and the super crew. Trolls are going to hate life. You ready Maxypad ? You better put your big girl panties on. You gots alot of trolling to do. Life long losser ant easy is it?
August 12th, 2019 at 5:22 pm
So I post in the morning and periodically during the day, some other guys who take my position (because it’s more common than you think) show up and post, and you claim since the posts stop about the same time…from different folks that it is some kind of evidence it is one person using several names? Doesn’t matter the thread beat a dead horse, coincided with a median time for a drive home, or a drive to go somewhere else? Yes, ignore all that. Your own little world is the boundary. Wow. That is funny and just plain dead wrong. Like your book, you ignore other factors that DO matter…not just merely coincidal. Unbelievable.
I had no idea that points scored played into how football works. Thanks! You are a genius. As I mentioned before, that you missed, there in the unquantifiable factors that still impact a HoF trajectory. Like a record over the longer term…off field issues, external business decisions, other team factors, etc. Decision makers use ALL that stuff. I don’t expect you pee-ons to get it.
Like your suggestion that guys on the site at the same time that agree must be the same guy….there is your book. Equally, fatally flawed. You take mutually exclusive events, like player careers, look at certain stats and line them up (oh sure, era-adjust them)…to come up with a bogus projection regarding another event. Statistically invalid. So you can use the fun. Certainly coincidental. But any idiot, especially an MBA that works business off of predictive analysis with ORSA expertsie on staff….knows that. The kid who took Stats 1 and flunked the final exam even knows that. You may fool some people, but very few.
You can talk about “facts” saying who did what, on what day…but it is pure fantasy to think one player’s career will turn out like another’s because of stats that align, espcially with such small sample sizes. There is place for predictive analysis…for events that are related. Elections, economies, market trends, oh…the weather…but sample sizes are great, variiables are isolated, and even then…at best it’s a prediction.
I don’t “pretend” anything. Not how I roll.
August 12th, 2019 at 8:12 pm
Lots of “I”s in those posts. Interesting. Go Bucs!
August 12th, 2019 at 8:29 pm
Fact is we have only one starting QB, a new staff, new players. Yet many (you know, the “fan” longer than anyone else, I have a right, I bought a ticket, never played, bought a jersey, know the call, sat in the meeting room, can’t be wrong crowd) would rather trash the players (instantly, without hesitation) than support them. You can’t be a fan if you carry on (carry on) in that way. At any level, any sport, any team endeavor. Go Bucs!
August 12th, 2019 at 9:40 pm
Jameis is one of the most hated/over looked players in recent history. Not only am I rooting for him to get our Bucs to the playoffs, but also to silence all the doubters. He shows such great promise, just needs to take care of the rock. Love MY qb!!!
August 12th, 2019 at 11:22 pm
@magadude,
Your entire post, like all your posts, makes no sense at all.
The book you’re talking about is irrefutable, yet in order to try to refute it, you claim it says something it doesn’t say, which is that Jameis will “end up” in Canton. It doesn’t say that. It says that he is absolutely, undoubtedly, on a Hall of Fame statistical pace through four years. He is. It’s a fact, a fact that you hate. Carry on acting like a clown and posting under various screen names.
And as I’ve said before, the author debates people all the time on Twitter and shuts all comers down; if you think you can refute a single page of the book, go at him on Twitter rather than messing with me under various screen names on this website. Clown.
August 13th, 2019 at 5:34 am
“Your entire post, like all your posts, makes no sense at all.” Suit yourself.
The only thing “irrefutable” is that the methodology, the very model, is statistically invavlid. I’ve already explained why. Saying he’s on pace for or is headed for, or based on x, then y, however you want to say it, is a bogus statement. Another one of the biggest flaws in predictive analytics is introducing bias up front. I don’t argue your passion in what you think is supporting Winston, but bias is a killer in understaking such studies (which is really what this is) as it taints evaulation of variables to use on top of the flaws I already outlined.
I think at this point, you can continue to attack and name call, and attempt to harass and swarm, shout down, etc, or we can go with what I think we both agree on: that Winston hopefully does well this year so his team wins. I’m a Bucs fan. I care about him doing well mostly for that reason. While it’s not my responsbility, it will be good for him if he can climb out of the hole he dug for himself in other areas.
My issue as I’ve consistently stated is I gave him a chance here coming out of FSU, the benefit of the doubt, and he let me down as a fan in a few ways. I don’t owe him any further allegiance…though as I do hope he wins (not just at football) for his own good, that his life is on track. Books and his apologists going around calling people “haters” doesn’t help him at all–as there are reasonable people who simply don’t agree with you. If I “hated” Winston I’d never have supported him as a player OR a team member in the first place. I’d not have bought his stuff (from bobbleheads to Ts). I’d never have contributed to his foundation, I’d never have tried to read all that is out there to help me form my own position.
So I’m back to what I’ve said from the day the book was released and you showed up here in various forms trying to smack down those who don’t agree: The book, besides what I’ve already noted above, especially how it goes about it, is probably not going to convince anyone the sports world (media or fan) has overlooked anything.
Me, I think the best and only way Winston can rise above, come out of the bottom tier of starting QBs, is what I’ve said numerous times here: play lights out and keep his nose clean for the whole year. Stay out of the news for the wrong reasons. You say that is a “Captain Obvious” point…I don’t think that’s evident to many given their behavior. You are absolutely not helping him out in my opinion. Which is why I think it is important he distance himself from guys who act like you and ensure he does not advocate your tactics. He can do what he wants–I just think if he did, it’s a bad look for him. So far, so good with him this year. Let’s keep our fingers crossed. I’ve given you my take on the book, and you, and I will move on. Good luck, and seriously, I do hope the book sells. Whether people agreee with it or not, like it or now, it’s still something to help shape opinions about a lot of things. That’s never a bad thing.
August 13th, 2019 at 10:13 am
^ Do you not even understand how dishonest you are? You claim to believe things that are shown to be untrue by one of your own statements a few sentences later or in a later post. You’re extremely dishonest and I can’t imagine that such isn’t entirely by design.
The author is despised by various members of the main stream media who have tried to refute some of his claims in the past, failed miserably, had public melt-downs and then blocked him. They all know full well the book and it’s content is irrefutable.
You also keep trying to say I’m the author, though that has been shown not to be the case and I have told you time and time again to hop on Twitter and debate the author personally as I’m sure he’d engage with you as he engages with everyone, even really weird trolls who say some bizarre stuff you probably wouldn’t even say. And the author is a lot nicer than I am too and probably won’t call you any names.
But, as for you personally, your bias against Winston is obvious and transparent in nearly every post you write, yet you pretend to support him and pretend to base your opinions on logic. In short, you’re dishonest and deceptive. The good thing is that no one on this site seems to buy what you’re selling, outside of a few wild Jameis-bashers and the various screen names you yourself post under.
Your final paragraph above illustrates your bias and illogic when you after pretending in the preceeding paragraphs to support Winston, you state as if it were a fact, that he is in the “bottom tier of starting QBs” when such is not even close to the truth, nor based on statisitcal fact.
In short, you’re not just a clown, but a dishonest clown.