Another Peek At The Loser Mentality
August 11th, 2019
The new Panthers defensive tackle speaks
Last week, Mike Evans talked about how not everybody he’s played with wanted to give their all during season-finale games.
Gerald McCoy took that a step further.
The dark era of Bucs football, 2009 through the present, is a fascinating time, one with many truths still needing to be uncovered.
McCoy spoke on SiriusXM NFL Radio last week and raved about how well his Panthers teammates were grinding through tough practices when he knew they were rather worn out. And during that chat he dropped this gem about his Bucs brethren during the second halves of seasons.
“That’s what’s going to help us when the season gets long, November and December, guys are struggling. Nobody wants to move. Guys don’t want to play the run anymore. So teams start running the ball a lot, we’re going to be prepared for it,” McCoy said.
Joe had to hit rewind. So in November and December, Tampa Bay defenders don’t want to play the run? What the hell was going on around here?
McCoy was very matter of fact, as if his former defenses always had a mail-it-in mentality late in the season.
Bark all you want that Joe is making too big a deal out of McCoy’s take, but sorry, there are a lot of players and teams where that kind of talk wouldn’t be uttered or even thought.
McCoy played on the No. 1 run defense in the NFL back in 2012, did that defense not want to play the run, either? Of course it did. But outside of that season, McCoy’s defenses largely were poor against the run, especially the past three years.
Perhaps now we have another reason why.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:13 pm
McCoy was front and center of that loser mentality. A true leader would never have tolerated that stuff. Imagine someone quitting around Warren Sapp. Carry some more rookie helmets over to the ice cream truck, Gerald.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:21 pm
Well, To be fair, our seasons were usually over by then
August 11th, 2019 at 9:22 pm
This is where bad teams have bad captains that don’t hold teammates accountable.
Heard Mike Alstott on the radio the other day and he said the coaches never really had to hold the players accountable. The players took care of that for themselfs on those teams. That’s a big reason why that team won a lot of games.
When it comes to finger pointing as to who was responsible for the Bucs defense mailing it in the team captains are the first players you have to question. McCoy was an absolute garbage leader and a horrible captain. Our new coach saw right through that and McCoy was never wanted back. We are much better off without him
I will miss that smile though.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:26 pm
I think this is a little stretched out. Ive always said that players on the Bucs defense were playing without a purpoae, and have read articles, or at least one the Joes have pisted about this in the past. When players start ofg with a miserable defense, with no coaching and no leadership it causes the losses to stack up..Come Novemeber and December the post season is already known not to be a realistic goal everyone starts to mail it in. Not surprised ibe bit. The Achilles heal of this team.has been the defense since Freeman left. Hell even begore he left , this team.has been sooooo stuck on tampa two.style soft zone coverage its been living in the past for far too long. Arians is the only man that can turn this around with this ownership. We are licky to have him here with Bowles coaching defense.
ITS COACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2019 at 9:27 pm
This guy really loves to hear himself talk.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:28 pm
EXACTLY JABOO!!!!!
August 11th, 2019 at 9:29 pm
Yes Jaboo that’s the spirit…….Thats how you build a winner and instill a winners mentality.
So when the going gets tough just give up. Ridiculous
How about when Baker had to be put in check and our QB had to do it? Maybe if we had a real freaking captain on defense Baker would have been put in check at the begginning of the season. Not at the end.
Meanwhile our Captain smilied and danced over losing the whole way through. He was more of a detriment to the team then we’ll ever know. I blame the media for praising and gushing over him for his entire time here. They sold us a bill of goods about him being a good person and figurehead………nothing that they ever touted about the guy was anything that makes any positive difference from a captain of a football team.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:32 pm
He was the leader on those defenses that mailed it in. He sure made sure everybody had a good time dancing on the sidelines though. Don’t know why so many hold him in such high regard. Joe love to say how Kwon couldn’t have been that good as the defense in its entirety was horrible. Well Gerald was the leader of a lot worse, I won’t miss him one bit.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:33 pm
Nothing tilts me harder then a freaking McCoy article. The way the media tryed to paint the Bucs as being unfair to McCoy was the biggest pile of crap I never saw…….And the media’s don’t care cause most of them are New York failures and transplants that don’t take losing to 💓. They don’t care and if you let them fool you you ate the fool.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:35 pm
So now McCoy is doing his insinuating on the radio. All we ever heard from him was Batman this and Game of Thrones that.
McCoy should just stop and do his talking on the field.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:37 pm
Just can’t let it go, can you Joe. Instead of focusing on the here & now, let’s keep digging up the past. Yup, that’s the key to winning.
Bucs have had a decade or more of poorly coached, poorly constructed teams (I use that last word loosely). A new era is rising. I know it’s hard, but try as best you can to embrace it Joe.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:38 pm
The dude was more interested in being a celebrity then a football player.
He was an embarrassment as a leader of My football team. If
August 11th, 2019 at 9:41 pm
No leadership or accountability in the previous regimes here, top to bottom. And this take from a guy that desperately wanted to be considered a leader; where was the leadership to call out any players that would want to shut it down? Of course this applies to coaching staff too, but if he’s supposed to be the face of the defense, that includes being the leader that apparently, he wasn’t.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:41 pm
Come on joe. Mccoy plays in the NFL!!!!! There are 32 teams in the NFL or did you not get the memo? Joe was very clear in what was written here. –Joe This man was not taking a shot at the bucs he was making an observation about the NFL and im sure his analysis is based on conversations he has had with players around the league. The bucs sucked against the run all season and not just in november or december or did you not get that memo?. Im pretty sure he was talking about the NFL in general. I mean how long have you been covering the NFL? They always say teams run more in the winter months and playoffs due to weather (Last Joe checked, there is typically beautiful football weather around the country in November. You can look it up.–Joe and the teams that can run and stop the run will be successful. The bucs could do either all season. It may not have been from a lack of effort but from poor coaching and inferior talent. Stop looking to stir up your base like other people in this country. Joe writes about what interests Joe. Really don’t care about the reaction. –Joe Tom jones school of journalism but conspiracy theories are king nowadays. Nothing to see here.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:43 pm
DR………This story is as much about the future as it is about the past if you ask me.
It’s a reminder of how mentally weak our last Era was and highlights which changes are needed in this new Era for it to be a winning one.
Obvisously the biggest thing that needed changing was getting rid of our garbage captain, McCoy. It was a very important part to changing the culture and mentality of the team & defense.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:52 pm
At 3-10, what’s there to really play for?
August 11th, 2019 at 9:53 pm
And to not be a total hate mongerer about McCoy I do think he is a talented player. But he is a awful awful leader. He was a detriment as a captain here and being a guy that our young and inexperienced players gravitated to and learned from.
He will do just fine as a role player in Carolina and that is the role that he always should have been in. A big part of the problem with Gerald was our orginazation that did not realize this and kept him around to captain our defense for a decade.
I’m just glad we got Bruce now who knows you can’t win with a passive person like McCoy leading your defense. You need to have an amount of agresdion to lead a defense in the NFL.
I will not miss you McCoy & I am glad you are gone.
August 11th, 2019 at 9:54 pm
The fact that he Wasn’t named a captain says it all!! Face of the defense and a leader? What a joke! You’re pointing the finger at yourself Gerald since we’ve never seen or heard you call anyone to the carpet, yet Your defense quit?! That’s on you big guy!
August 11th, 2019 at 9:57 pm
Cancer93 and his mentally weak sidekick lvd captained the softest and statistically worst defensive units in NFL history…. take responsibility cancer93 you were the first one to quit
August 11th, 2019 at 10:09 pm
The most vivid memory of GMC I’ll ever have was his dancing with Kwon last year while down 3 scores. He can talk all he wants but he was front and center of some putrid efforts throughout the years in TB.
August 11th, 2019 at 10:12 pm
I was right 7 years ago about cancer93. Total fraud. Being a visionary i get judged as negative which is just a byproduct of never being wrong
August 11th, 2019 at 10:15 pm
I am glad he is no longer a Buc.
August 11th, 2019 at 10:16 pm
McCoy was at the center of the leadership of those defenses. Why would he tolerate quitters? Good to have Suh and adios Gerald.
August 11th, 2019 at 10:21 pm
Don’t make me laugh…….
Ah, damn Gummie…… ya done did!
Hawaiian tears sustain us all.
Go Bucs!!!!
August 11th, 2019 at 10:41 pm
It has only been posted an hour ago. Not sure why everyone of my comments are moderated
August 11th, 2019 at 11:01 pm
The more money these guys make, the less they want to work. I’m not happy with how McCoy went out, but he’s starting to annoy me.
August 11th, 2019 at 11:04 pm
Webster you deserve it for defending this guy who embarrassed us as a captain. He was a garbage leader and the article proofs it. Deal with it.
August 11th, 2019 at 11:07 pm
And none of that was Gerald’s fault. He always gave 110%. He never got burned. He was the best Buccaneer 🏴☠️ Player ever. Just ask him. I’m so glad he’s gone. He made everyone worse
August 11th, 2019 at 11:28 pm
Lol wow so let’s pretend he wasn’t the least of this loser mentally all of a sudden. Give me a break, the writers on this town are so weak, dude is gone and they still scared to say anything negative about him. Geraldine was the worst run defender on this defense even when we’re had the number one rush defense. Give me a break he had 30 tackles total in 2012
August 11th, 2019 at 11:29 pm
Realistically, that wasn’t an endorsing message by GMC on his own leadership.
GMC said,
“Nobody wants to move. Guys don’t want to play the run anymore.”
He’s projecting exactly what he did last season onto others.
August 11th, 2019 at 11:33 pm
Gerald McCoy was supposedly the leader of the defense and was voted a team captain for many of the years he played her in Tampa Bay. All I will say about this is all good things and all bad things flow from the top and McCoy was the top dog on the Buc defense. Good Riddance to Geraldini and all hail Suh and his bad a$$ attitude that will not allow the team to mail it in like Geraldini allowed.
August 11th, 2019 at 11:33 pm
Well this article has vindicated my stance for 10 years. Tell me something new GMC.
August 11th, 2019 at 11:52 pm
Still stalking the ex. Still living in the past. Get some help, Joe. It’s sad.
August 12th, 2019 at 2:36 am
McCoy isn’t a Buc anymore. Jameis is the true leader! The Famous jameis Show!
August 12th, 2019 at 5:56 am
I bet he didn’t show up in a Batman suit or a kimono to training camp.
August 12th, 2019 at 6:55 am
McCoy played for Tuesdays
August 12th, 2019 at 7:00 am
@ jimmyjack and joe
Im not defending mccoy. I simply stated show me where in that statement he specifically said the bucs so the jbf troll base should attack him. November there is good weather you say joe? So what? Tell me when did the bucs stop the run in september and october? You cant and therefore you are stretching the truth. Mccoy has no experience of a team letting up in november and december because they sucked at it ALL YEAR!!!! If he would have said it will be nice to finally play on a team thats full of players committed to and can stop the run, then i could understand this type of article. Again, mccoy plays in the nfl and he talks to many players around the league for many teams. To take that comment and try to turn it into an attack on the bucs is definitely trying to feed raw meat to your base. And yes, feeding raw meat to your base seems to “interest” joe more and more. Webster
August 12th, 2019 at 7:29 am
McCoy has a point.
I wonder if one of our captains and face of the franchise for years always said having fun was the most important goal.
August 12th, 2019 at 8:15 am
If players were mailing it in he was the freaking mail man. NO ONE stood around more than McCoy on running plays. You notice he didn’t show up to Panthers camp wearing that stupid kimono. I guess that being a complete idiot isn’t tolerated there. Well they do have one clown already so maybe two aren’t tolerated
August 12th, 2019 at 8:35 am
I hope letting GMC go doesn’t stir up more Buc Luck. BTW, not impressed with Suh either. Go Bucs!!
August 12th, 2019 at 9:30 am
Too funny, the man with two torn biceps who cant stretch out his arms enough to tackle a running back wants to go on about run defense. I am sorry but if i am thinking about one player who didnt get serious about a game McCoy comes to mind immediately. How can you be seriously intense on winning when you are helping up opposing teammates and apologizing to QBs that you sack?????
August 12th, 2019 at 10:26 am
lol
August 12th, 2019 at 11:09 am
He doesn’t lead from the front, that’s why he’s gone
August 12th, 2019 at 12:55 pm
I didn’t take it as him talking about the Bucs defense. He basically admitted that he doesn’t like to play run defense. But to anyone that watched him play that is old news.
August 12th, 2019 at 4:28 pm
He said that in Tampa too Joe, you just weren’t listening.
August 12th, 2019 at 4:49 pm
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August 12th, 2019 at 6:04 pm
I hope Coach Rivera got a listen to his comments…..maybe a foreshadowing of things to come with the Panthers defense this season……LOSER!!!!!
August 12th, 2019 at 8:15 pm
Just glad he’s gone. Welcome to Tampa Mr. Suh! #TheReal93
August 13th, 2019 at 3:21 pm
Damn for a guy who was the best player on the team for 5 or 6 seasons this hatred of him is just weird. Such an angry bunch of trolls. The guy was a solid player and produced until age started to take its toll and his skills diminished the last couple of years. There were 52 other players on all of his teams and multiple coaching staffs that all played a role in the losing. Let me repeat that, he was one of 53 players. He did not play QB, Left Tackle or Defensive end either. Yet, because he always put up decent numbers you guys focus on his “leadership.” We have coaches that are hired to do that. McCoy was hired to play defense and he did at a high level for most of his career in Tampa. Screw all you haters!
August 14th, 2019 at 8:18 pm
FanBoy McCoy: uhh, hee hee, excuse me, Mr. Brady? Uhh, hee hee, could you let us get in our 3 point stances first?