Composure Versus Energy
July 3rd, 2019
BY ZACHARY SEIFTER
JoeBucsFan.com intern
A guy who has been in NFL huddles with Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston compared them yesterday.
They will always be linked together for the rest of their careers, maybe even the rest of their lives. Whenever quarterbacks go back-to-back as the first two picks in the draft, it’s impossible to avoid the comparisons.
Just like how people compare Andrew Luck and RG3, or how people always compare how great Peyton Manning was to the enormous bust that Ryan Leaf was.
The same can be said for the first two picks of the 2015 NFL Draft. The Bucs, of course, took Jameis while Tennessee drafted Mariota.
But not many know what it’s actually like to play with both of them.
One who had that rare opportunity is guard/tackle Kevin Pamphile. He blocked for young Jameis over the first three years of Winston’s career before joining the Titans in the 2018 offseason.
If anyone can fairly compare the two, it’s Pamphile. He has seen the styles of leadership, the styles of play and the styles of attitude each has displayed up close, and when asked how the two are different, he didn’t hesitate with his answer.
“I mean, they both bring two different styles of leadership,” Pamphile stated. “I mean Marcus is very composed and definitely more quiet, but he leads by example. Jameis has a compassion and energy you want in the huddle but they both have, you know, equal qualities to each other but when you’re comparing both, they’re both awesome players and you know, it’s awesome to get to play and block for both of them.”
Everyone knows their differences in terms of energy and loudness; Jameis has always been the rah-rah guy while Mariota has always preferred to remain quiet and let his play do the talking.
It’s interesting to hear Pamphile say the two are similar with “equal qualities.”
Another similarity: they both need to raise their games this year if they hope to score another contract at the end of it.
If not, they both could have yet another similarity: looking for a new home.
July 3rd, 2019 at 12:25 am
Did he say compassion or passion? I’d venture to say he meant passion.
July 3rd, 2019 at 12:26 am
looking for a new home
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Mang, if only. What I wouldn’t do to see Jameis Winston in silver and black. I just can’t believe Gruden didn’t have any interest in coaching in Tampa. Sure looks to me like he wanted to take over but wtfdik
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-sp-jameis-winston-jon-gruden-20170803-story.htmlThe
July 3rd, 2019 at 1:34 am
It would be weird if we end up with Mariota. Kind of like GMC and Suh.
July 3rd, 2019 at 3:24 am
Both just aren’t simply very good. Winston has the stats and little else. Mariota has a playoff win and little else. Neither appears to be able to carry a team. Both are currently busts given the hype and expectations and draft status. And neither is on track to make the Ring of Honor or have their jersey retired by their respective teams.
July 3rd, 2019 at 4:43 am
I wonder why the Bucs gave up on Pamphile so easily. I mean he has to be better than Benenoch or Cappa, isn’t he? Maybe for the same reason we gave up prematurely on Penn & Zuttah. We’re the Bucs … it’s what we do.
July 3rd, 2019 at 5:34 am
I didn’t want either QB in the draft. I wanted a D line emphasis, and look at who we could have had since (Trubisky, Mahomes, etc), but the Glazers wanted to get on with having a QB, local start, and face of the franchise to build around. Took a big gamble. Can’t blame them. No one could doubt Winston’s energy, work ethic, and desire to win, and to “be the man.” Those are essential leadership characteritics he posesses. But he lacks to many others (decision making is the biggest one) that he has not overcome in four years, and it has caused him way too many mistakes, on and off the field, that most five-year-olds know better about. Not a franchise QB.
July 3rd, 2019 at 5:35 am
@DR…Pamphile had plenty of time to develop. Yeah, looking now, they probably should have kept him compared to who they have.
July 3rd, 2019 at 5:38 am
@Pete I, I think both are serviceable QBs, but neither are who their franchises need carrying them, for different reasons.
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:13 am
Gruden had 100 million reasons to coach Oakland. None of them had anything to do with Jameis. It’s always all about the money.
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:17 am
The good thing is composure can be developed with maturity and age while energy usually decreases with age. Jameis will show drastic maturity and progression this season under Arians..Give the guy a defense and maybe he will be able to relax a bit
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:25 am
Mariota 1, Winston 0. Comparable QB’s on the field. Off the field…..? No comparison.
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:28 am
They had to take a QB that year. They needed a franchise QB to lead the team.
And they took Jameis who is clearly more talented then Mariota.
However , I think it’s fair to say neither has lived up to the hype yet of being taken so high. Both have been in that middle tier / average range so far.
But both careers are still incomplete. I mean QBs are playing into 40s these days. These guys are still young so the comparison will continue.
Now people who say well …Mariota has a running game and oline so has more to work with …look at Mariotas receivers. I mean they just recently got better but his receivers have been terrible. Can you name 5 since entering league? (Including tight ends)
And look at Jameis running backs And run oline are que terrible. So the comparisons continue
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:31 am
Mariota is fragile and can’t throw the ball more than 5 yards past the LOS. made the POs bc of his defense and run game. Seems to be a theme amongst young QBs but wtfdik
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:39 am
Definitely Passion.
July 3rd, 2019 at 6:45 am
Count me in on the camp that are puzzled why we let Pamphile go.. Without
looking it up ,I,m gonna guess he was part of an O line that produced over 2500 yards of the production from running backs in 2015. When you have a tackle that struggles to get upfield in run blocking and a tight end not known for his blocking
your run game is bound to struggle. Anybody else wonder why our screen game to RB’s has all but disappeared in the last several years?
July 3rd, 2019 at 8:54 am
i miss pamphile….
GO BUCS!!!!!
July 3rd, 2019 at 9:21 am
Pamphile is a case in point that in today’s NFL, it takes longer to develop lineman. Like BA said, 3-4 years.
July 3rd, 2019 at 11:34 am
Getting rid of Penn, Zuttah, Michael Bennett, & Aquib Talib were the 4 biggest mistakes in franchise history, in my opinion… I mean, just imagine if we had all 4of them as foundational team members all these years… Dang it man, and I’m sure I’m forgetting a few more big names
July 3rd, 2019 at 12:11 pm
Marcus has had a MUCH better group around him, from the outset(coaches and players) and an experienced AWESOME safety valve, in Delanie…who has saved his ARSE more times than one can count.
July 3rd, 2019 at 1:04 pm
No way the Titans had better wide receivers and perhaps not tight ends. Remember, Cam Brate the only tight end in NFL to have at least six touchdowns in each of the past three seasons.
Running backs? Yeah. Receivers? No. Tight ends? Push, strong lean no.
July 3rd, 2019 at 7:08 pm
Mariota has had how many new coaches with new offense coordinators. He has put the team on his back and won.. Maybe this year Winston shows M.M. up
July 4th, 2019 at 9:00 am
Man the titans defense and running game is really good. Jamies have never eather. And that’s been the real problem with this team not Jamies. I don’t know why yall just can’t see that. If you don’t have those to things you are going to lose. It doesn’t matter who the quarterback is the Patriots win because they play good defense and they run the ball when they want to. They drafted another running back this year and Tom Brady will dink and dunk the first half of the game and that is what helps the Patriots win every year. Why don’t we do that . Why make Jamies throw deep every throw? Yall are a trip man lol lol lol !!!!!!