“If They Move Multiple Times There’s A Problem”
July 22nd, 2019
The no-respect train keeps chugging along when it comes to the perception of the Bucs in the national media.
The national analysts typically look at the Falcons and Saints and see better roster than Tampa Bay’s. Then they bring up Carolina and drop the overused “let’s see what Cam Newton’s shoulder looks like.” And then the Bucs are the afterthought.
Whether or not the Bucs deserve that afterthought label for 2019 is up for debate.
This morning on SiriusXM NFL Radio, iconic former NFL offensive coordinator Charlie Weis was talking NFC South and he is a big fan of the Bucs offense and what it can do. He scoffed at those who say the Buccaneers’ quarterback production last year was second rate. But Weis hits a major roadblock when it comes to a bad Bucs defense he isn’t sure improved much if at all. He doesn’t think the Bucs will overcome their defense.
Weis is highly skeptical to the Bucs’ most expensive free agent addition, Ndamukong Suh. He and co-host Bob Papa don’t like Suh’s team-hopping ways. Tampa Bay is Suh’s fourth team as he enters his 10th NFL season.
“[Great players] might move once. If they move multiple times there’s a problem,” Weis said, comparing Suh’s resumé that of Terrell Owens.
Joe doesn’t think the T.O. comparison holds much water. Through 10 seasons, T.O. had only played for two teams, San Francisco and Philadephia. He then moved on to Dallas and played three years for a Cowboys team that didn’t have a losing season in his time there.
Like any older free agent, Suh is a calculated gamble, handpicked by Todd Bowles and Bucco Bruce Arians. If he’s a flop, well, then Joe sure hopes Team Glazer makes a very firm mental note.
Joe suspects Suh will deliver what he gave last year in Los Angeles. Hopefully, the Bucs have meaningful, late-season games, so Suh can raise his game for those contests like he did last season.
July 22nd, 2019 at 11:33 am
It feels so good not having GMC as the face of the defense line.
July 22nd, 2019 at 11:37 am
The Problem is that we need him to excel during the early part of the season in order to even think about meaningful games late in the year
July 22nd, 2019 at 11:42 am
Injuries will be the biggest factor. Nobody can predict who or when the injury bug will bite. If the starters avoid major injuries then I think the defense will be much better.
July 22nd, 2019 at 11:49 am
Some concern here also over Suh and whether he is fading and seeking another paycheck. I read here he turned his play up another notch in the playoffs but that would be expected from any pro athlete, so it will be exciting to see him excel with our Bucs.
July 22nd, 2019 at 11:52 am
It’s a one year deal at the tail end of a career. Money grab simple as that. I do not fault him one iota for that, just give us meaningful pressure and some nasty. That’s all we can ask.
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:13 pm
I love all the low expectations and hope every player on every team the Bucs play read every article saying the Bucs won’t be s#!t…
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:18 pm
Cue all the posters ready to dis credit Weis cus they don’t agree with him
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:25 pm
Was there another, better DT available?
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:28 pm
Joe
more or less EVERY free agent the Glazers have brought in has failed with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 since Whyce built dungy the clowns highly ranked defense with draft picks and free agents… so why would Suh be on Arians and Bowels when EVERY free agent that comes to tampa regresses and retires on active duty. the list of failed free agency goes back multiple regimes. Last team builder this franchise had was Same Whyce… Whyce should be in bucs ring of underachievement not the ignorant one dimensional fool dungy the clown and his career losing playoff record but popularity as always trumped reality in low standard bucland.
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:29 pm
He will be better for this team than Geraldine was. Call it a prediction like the guesses they throw out. Geraldine was no great player and neither is suh so that statement is irrelevant because neither gets into the hall of fame
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:44 pm
Bucs are positioned perfectly as a sleeper in the south. The defense will be much improved. It can’t be any worse. New players, coaches and scheme is a good thing.
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:44 pm
“[Great players] might move once. If they move multiple times there’s a problem,” Weis said
You mean like , 5 time pro bowler, super bowl champion, and 3 time playoff team starter, Aqib Talib?
Suh is a 5 time pro bowler and has been starter on 3 playoff teams.
Do these “analysts “ have a better suggestion?
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:46 pm
We have unfortunately become the organization that is known for handing out free money to players, coaches, and their agents. This is very public knowledge but you minions can keep believing
July 22nd, 2019 at 12:54 pm
they haven’t done anything to deserve respect…..lets see what happens when it matters
July 22nd, 2019 at 1:20 pm
SUH is pass the “great” stage in his career but he’s still very very very good…..
GO BUCS!!!!
July 22nd, 2019 at 1:39 pm
Call it a product of the salary cap era. Nobody is signing a 30+ defensive lineman to multi year contacts. That’s a recipe for cap hell. He will likely play out a string of 1 year deals with one or more teams till he retires.
July 22nd, 2019 at 1:45 pm
TMAX your blind negativity and hatred have made you a VERY WEAK poster.
FA’s have never helped the Bucs? Really? The SB team had a load of FA’s to go with the talent we drafted…starting at freaking QB…including two of his top targets in MeShawn and Jurevicious.
While I believe Licht has done a far better job drafting than finding FA’s he hasn’t totally struck out.
Don’t know why I bothered with this post since you TMAX do not even know the meaning of nuance it’s all hyperbole and extremes with you. The only thing we ever learn from your posts is how deep your problems run.
July 22nd, 2019 at 1:54 pm
I’m Hoping Suh will bring leadership to the D-line, something we know McCoy couldn’t do. I think coaching helps this defense a lot, even if we didn’t improve talent over last year. BTW, neither McCoy or Kwon were a loss.
July 22nd, 2019 at 2:17 pm
Multiple teams with multiple playoff appearances and just played in the Superbowl nope don’t talk about that though. Gerald McCoy same team organization not one playoff game dancing to the sound of losing. While in the basement and being “classy” picking up opposing quarterbacks “sorry Rapistburger” time to cash my check so I can go on Skip & Shannon looking like Mr T crying about his number going to Suh. Wah wah at least Suh has the “IT” factor when he needs it unlike McSofty good riddance.
July 22nd, 2019 at 2:32 pm
Players move all the time especially in the salary cap era . Everyone is trying to make financially sound decisions. I wonder what Mr.Wiess’ opinion is of coaches “that move all the time”.
July 22nd, 2019 at 2:32 pm
It was time for McCoy to move on regardless of who the Bucs signed afterwards. Besides Suh was not brought in to replace McCoy because Vita Vea was drafted to replace McCoy.
July 22nd, 2019 at 2:36 pm
free agency success comes down to expectation management. all we need from Suh is to be better than league average in his spot while the pressure to make plays moves to the LB corps. he is not expected to save our pass rush like so many other d linemen, nor is he expected to be some magical final piece like DJax
July 22nd, 2019 at 3:05 pm
This doesn’t mean anything at all…. NFL radio probably told Weis that they were going to talk about the NFC South. When he prepared it spent time on all the winning teams of the south and just breezed over the Bucs. Since Suh has so much air play since he’s been in the league Weis went after the easy stuff and tried to compare Suh’s on field dirty plays to TO’s BS on and off the field BS. Being a Tampa fan outside Tampa, don’t know what it’s like in Tampa, you really don’t get a good in depth info on them because, let’s face it, they’ve sucked since the Super Bowl. So when they really talk about them on ESPN or the NFL network none of those guys really dig for good info or report good facts. The only one I listen to out of all the shows is Riddick… he seems like when he talks on something he does his homework.
July 22nd, 2019 at 3:10 pm
Win and all of the bad press changes. Funny how that works. Bucs are placing all their line hopes on Suh and an improved Vea. I’m not impressed. I still ask the question..WHO..will replace JPP? That within itself is a tremendous loss.
July 22nd, 2019 at 5:30 pm
T.O. is in the Hall of Fame.
Many players who moved multiple times are in the Hall of Fame.
Suh is unlikely to make it into the Hall of Fame without being a starter on a Super Bowl champion or winning NFL DPOY and as DPOY is probably out of the question at this stage of his career, he needs to be all-in on “team” and win a chip in Tampa … the odds are against the team but Carolina came out of nowhere in 2015 before Cam sort of fell off a cliff, so a magic season can happen anytime for any team.
July 22nd, 2019 at 5:32 pm
As for replacing JPP, the team can still cut him and use the savings to sign another quality guy who gets dumped for whatever reason during training camp by another team, or could maybe trade for a big time player using a pick.
July 22nd, 2019 at 5:57 pm
Just keep pooring fuel on that fire baby!!!!!! I love it and just know BA is going to be using this every day.