“It’s A Lot Easier Than It Used To Be To Flip It”
June 3rd, 2019
Bucco Bruce Arians was talking today.
Joe was listening and got a distinct visual of Arians talking to Team Glazer in the hours (seconds?) after (before?) Dirk Koetter was launched from his coach’s office.
There was Arians, calm and cool on the FOX-13 airwaves this morning, talking to Charley Belcher about winning with the Bucs — in a hurry.
“It’s a lot easier to than it used to be to flip it,” Arians said of making an NFL team a winner.
Injuries are a factor, Arians added, but when accountability is flowing through an organization and players work for each other, great things happen fast, he said.
Man, Joe loves how Arians is fearless with his public displays of confidence. It’s refreshing around here.
The head coach also told Belcher about how “it’ll be intense” at the three-day, mandatory minicamp that kicks off tomorrow.
The Bucs will add five or six veteran tryout guys to the sessions, “looking to see if we can churn the bottom of the roster,” Arians said.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:03 pm
I would be concerned if he wasn’t giddy.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:07 pm
Dude looks like he is shaking some weight….flattery will get you everywhere with BA…Joes… 🙂
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:09 pm
Ok cool, now this guy said its easy to make them a winner. Mark the day down. So when this clown fails we have a day to remember him making such a idiotic statement. If winning was easy then everyone would be doing it. What exactly did this guy win in AZ?? Now he’s gonna come off like that jackhole KluelessKoetter and his big stick carrier movement. These guys come in and have all this rah rah attitudes. So damn hilarious.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:11 pm
@Buddy
Would you rather he be miserable like you?
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:12 pm
5 or 6 guys to “churn” the bottom of the roster……Now, if that doesn’t create some motivation I don’t know what will….of course, it’s a 90-man roster right now so…..long way to go.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:13 pm
I think BA was communicating with Licht since the second quarter of the Bears game.
Bottom of the roster my @$$ make no mistake this roster will be unrecognizable come Sept 9th
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:16 pm
Would you rather hear that the HC does not know to fix it?
Or he has no answers or no plan?
To me the first time I was concerned we made the wrong choice with Koetter was when looked lost trying to manage timeouts. Arians has a long resume of success and cockiness that seems to rub off on every team he goes too.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:17 pm
Buddy
He won a divisional playoff game in AZ and a SB ring at RJS. That’s better than anyone since Chucky.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:18 pm
Comments will be laughable when they win 6 games
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:25 pm
FINALLY a real head coach in Tampa.
He’s already cut the biggest dead weight. Can’t wait to see who else is gone or who else will be brought in. Finally, the “culture change” that Schiano and Koetter talked about will actually take place.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:26 pm
Let that negativity flow through you. Makes you a better person.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:32 pm
Joe:
Could you or your fantastic intern check on something?
The two sites that do a normally great job keeping up with the financial standings of the teams (Overthecap and Spotrac) show the Bucs cap space at 13 million plus. They do not account for the addition of Suh.
He was added some time ago, at supposedly 9.25 mil, leaving the Bucs at about 4 and a quarter million.
The question is why don’t either site have Suh’s salary and updated their records. Could it be the Bucs haven’t filed with the league office?
Thanks for your checking this out.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:32 pm
Buddy, I assume you’re a transplant and the Bucs are your second or third team. BA is a two time coach of the year. He has a list of mentors and credentials that Koetter probably won’t touch in his career. No coach in Bucs history has arrived in Tampa with a resume like BA. His former players love him, even ones he cut or was tough on. He was clearly the best available coach. Koetter never spoke with this kind of confidence or swagger. It’s probably because he was a rookie head coach. There’s no comparison to be made here.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:34 pm
For the record, give the guy a chance. Individually, there appears to be a lot of talented kids on the roster. The Bucs D got to about average once Smith was jettisoned. Imagine what it can be with a coach that actually has a clue, AND a full off season to do something with it. The offense is better off without Djax. I watched him short arm about every pass Winston threw his way. With Godwin, Evans and Howard, the offense WILL move the ball. If we get production out of Watson, Brate, Perriman, Wilson and Miller, it will be bonus. The biggest question mark I see is the O Line, but if we can get anything like a mediocre performance there, the Bucs should kill it. The biggest problem appears to have been the coaching, and it would seem that we addressed that. While I am not seeing a Super Bowl run this year, I would not be surprised if they make it to the second round.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:35 pm
If I was as negative about the Bucs as some fans even after a complete coaching change why would I even follow the team?
But if this is how you keep yourself motivated to follow the Bucs than more power to you.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:39 pm
DB55- So he won a SB ring as a HC? nice try plenty of asst coaches out there have SB rings from other head coaches they worked for.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:41 pm
“A-CCOUNT-A-BILITY!”………There’s that word again!
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:53 pm
Hey Buddy,
Shut up.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:54 pm
He was the OC and the game was won by possibly one of the most epic offensive performances in Sb history. If was a rb coach then different story but the man definitely earned his ring.
June 3rd, 2019 at 1:58 pm
Signing of Suh shows me this guy knows what he is doing and that he intends to get the best players possible, notwithstanding the salary cap problems. It appears that the Bucs finally have a decent coaching staff and will do whatever it takes to win.
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:07 pm
DooshLaRue- Doosh quit getting all butthurt. And Bucco Bruce winning a divisional game whoopt-freakin-do!! who cares he’s never won squat. And in that divisional game did he wear a normal hat like everyone else but since he won it then the next year decided he needed to wear some gimmick derby hat all of a sudden cause he was feeling himself?? and looks like your name- a douche. Those hats are about as stupid as Joe Maddons black glasses that the Rays tried to shove down all your lambs throats and you all bought in. How’d that turn out?? Zero World Championships.
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:14 pm
Buddy,
Go away.
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:26 pm
Buddy, in the words of Buddy, you are an angry elf
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:51 pm
Agreed, but it will not be Arians’ fault. Backstabbin’ Jason Licht set this roster up to fail a long time ago. If the Bucs win six games (that’s my prediction) no one in their right mind can argue Licht deserves a seventh season.
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:52 pm
Licht seems to have missed the, “it’s a whole lot easier to flip, now” memo.
If by “now” BA meant that “now that Licht is a figure-head only” then, ok! I might get on board with that. This is a slippery slope though BA, be careful!
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:53 pm
Dean who cares about the financial side … suh is here he’s paid there’s abou 4 million in cap space … what more do you want ? Geez who cares there’s no cap space left … gonna have to get rid of some players to get more cap … just think when Jameis screws the pooch this year it will save us getting rid of several players to take on Jameis contract extension … then it will be back to the bs again …. BA will say he’s sick again and retire and we will have to unload more people to get back under the cap… we’re looking at another 5-6 years of crap football
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:54 pm
I mean when there are five different teams in the playoffs every year for the last twenty seasons it shouldn’t be too difficult to understand why he says “it’s easier than it use to be”. Long gone are the days of the dynasties. Yea I’m aware of the pats but outside of that who else??? No one that’s who. I’ll say it again the 2017 bears finish 5 and 11 under John Fox. Fired him hired a guy,brought in an elite defender in Mack and drafted a bad @$$ MLB. Voila 12 and 4 in 2018. That whole scenario sounds quite familiar to me.
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:56 pm
I look for Jameis to make a run at league MVP.
Go bucs.
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:02 pm
@NOSBOS
For sure agree. NO one should need 4-5 years to rebuild a team.
If you have a great coaching staff / organization / ability to identify talent then you can flip most teams in just a couple years.
The Bucs have a lot to work with on offense already.. THat’s been established. Top 5-10 in moving the ball last few years but need to score more & run it better.
We are a defensive & special teams flip from being a pretty dangerous team, and considering we have turned over the defense hardcore this season and have a new staff and were historically bad there last year and everyone hated the coaching schemes on defense, there is a lot of reason to believe it can be done.
GO BUCS!
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:07 pm
Eric Says:
June 3rd, 2019 at 2:56 pm
I look for Jameis to make a run at league MVP.
Go bucs.
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??? as a situational pass rusher ????
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:07 pm
We are not a defense away from flipping this team … we have yet to see Jameis not turn the ball over … you can’t win games when your qb turns the ball over .. see dumb move in green bay
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:10 pm
See dumb move Cincinnati
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:11 pm
See dumb moves in atlanta
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:22 pm
BA or BS we shall see the first five games should tell the story. I hope they have a successful year but you have to remember BA has only had one playoff win.
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:26 pm
One can only be optimistic about a season that’s yet to be played. If not, then why not just spend Sunday’s rearranging your sock drawer?
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:28 pm
Lord C,agreed..
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:29 pm
@Eric
The only year Jameis Winston had an average scoring defense we had a winning record with multiple wins against playoff teams in what was a pretty tough schedule, despite a bottom 5 run game and the worst kicker in the league and lesser established weapons on offense than we have now.
So historically speaking, Jameis Winston + average or better scoring defense = Bucs winning record.
I’m sticking with my statement.
GO BUCS!
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:31 pm
You people keep talking this BA only has this dumb s:@“$ as if we’ve been use to winning any around here lately. BA’s issue in zona was Palmer became shell shock as he grew older. If BA would’ve caught Palmer a few years younger than what he was when he got him I’m certain they would’ve gotten done there.
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:36 pm
Lord C. well said
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:36 pm
Eric y Says:
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:11 pm
See dumb moves in atlanta
Dude he threw for 395 AND 4 TDs that day. Yes he did have 2 picks, one that bounced off a guys head and a bomb to Mr. I quit on my route Jackson. Bro you can’t be serious that you put that game on the QB, CAN YOU?
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:45 pm
Whole lot easier to flip now? Jason Licht has not read that memo because he has drafted stiffs. If Arians sticks around for 3 years maybe the bucs turn it around, but his buying of the groceries for arizona turned out very bad for them as they are as bad as the bucs
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:50 pm
Im an optimistic fan for this year. But I agree with Buddy.. BA aint won nothing against kaepernick,wilson and sam bradford. What makes yall think he is gonna beat Cam, Brees and Matt Ryan?? The guys path to the superbowl got ended by Cam newton
June 3rd, 2019 at 3:58 pm
941
The injury plagued Cardinals were eliminated by the Carolina Panthers in the first round of the NFL 2015 playoffs
Cam Newton had 45 TDs to 10 Ints that year.
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:03 pm
buddy, youre an idiot.
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:06 pm
We get this guy a proper gm…..
And look the F out
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:14 pm
I second that notion Lord C.
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:33 pm
I can’t wait I’ll be at camp tomorrow morning !!! So pumped to see this new team
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:34 pm
@BringBucsBack … “If by “now” BA meant that “now that Licht is a figure-head only” then, ok!” Doubt that’s what he meant, but that’s what’s happened anyways. BA’s in charge.
TexBuc … I don’t even bother reading some JBFers comments anymore; their negative perspectives add virtually nothing to the commentary. Interestingly, most don’t hang around for long. Well, except tmaxcon, and he’s trying to regroup now that Batman has flown the coup. He’ll come up with another quasi-super-hero soon though.
Folks give BA tons of credit for his past successes & experiences, deservedly so, but it’s easy to overlook the incredible staff that he’s assembled. I’ve always been of the mindset that the guy at the top is only as good as the people he surrounds himself with, and IMO it’s potentially the best coaching staff we’ve ever had in Tampa. These guys (and gal) know how to develop & use players, and that’s why they’re on BA’s team. Have read many articles telling about how they’re fiercely loyal to BA … and vice-versa. He doesn’t micro-manage, has their backs when needed, but also holds them accountable. Great combination in leadership on his part IMO.
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:43 pm
He also made dumb decisions that year that cost us the playoffs if you remember … final 2 games which started his decision making… since then he has made terrible decisions … you guys need to go back and do homework
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:51 pm
Anyone who is skeptical of Bucs and Bruce Arians has every right to be. Arians may be all fiery and say good stuff now, but a lot of real Bucs fans are just looking past that sweet talk now. Prove it. Too many coaches, too many hopes, too may lost seasons by the owners, GMs, coaches, or players….or all the above…including those around now, shooting themselves in the foot. If you don’t like someone’s skeptism, you don’t have to read it, you can argue why you are all full of love–that is your right. If Buddy or whoever has something sour to say…so be it. He might be right.
I’ve been around all 43 seasons for the Bucs, and I’m a die hard. I travel to see this team, I’m a long time season ticket holder, and I have an operations pass to the field three or four times a year. But that doesn’t mean I get drunk on words. That doesn’t mean I’m not sick of the garbage. I don’t tolerate anything now but performance. Nor should anyone else. For all you boys wet behind the ears, you just may learn from skeptism…and you can also try out for the cheerleadering squad.
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:58 pm
All you Jameis disciples…wake up. You man from the promised land in Tally hasn’t done anything either. I don’t want to hear about how he’s the best Bucs QB ever…that is not true, and even if he were, there is STILL not a franchise QB for this team drafted with that intent who was signed for a second contract. And Winston has not done a thing to earn it, and many Bucs fan can easily argue there is less hope with this guy now than before his first NFL game. He’s not a leader, he’s not a good decision maker on or off the field, and he’s really not that good of player when you look at his whole body of work. He’s a turnover machine, and he’s not improved in four years. Is he a pro caliber? Sure. Is he a starter. This year will tell. Is he a franchise QB. No. Just ask all his endorsments folks…and at least half the fans.
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:31 pm
It’s anybodys right to be a miserable MFER. I’m just saying, why not just tell the old lady that you’ll have 16 free Sundays to get the things done around the house that your lazy ass hasn’t done and she been nagging you to do?
Why would you torture yourself like this over entertainment? I’ll tell you this- there are some real scumbags in Boston who, regardless of all the Pats SB wins, are still scumbags. Nothing has changed for them because of all the rings. That same scumbag is so excited because he knows the pats will be in the playoffs, yet he’s still still out there lying and stealing.
Point being- win or lose, your life will be the same. Just enjoy the games.
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Can’t we all just get along?
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:35 pm
“Eric y Says:
June 3rd, 2019 at 4:43 pm
He also made dumb decisions that year that cost us the playoffs if you remember … final 2 games which started his decision making… since then he has made terrible decisions …”
Dallas loss 26-20
D was shredded by Dak / Zeke and Godster Cherlius had the worst RT perfomance of any Buc in recent memory. Doug Martin got 2.6 YPC.
He had 3 interceptions, one being a hail mary at the end of the half and annother in a desperation 4th and 12 heave in terrilbe down / distance due to Cherlius, and on that play no time / free release DE. Had a sack/fumble on terrible pass pro as well. THere was one turnover that was just a bad play and decision tho. But 3/4 others were not on him if you remember this game and the specific turnover plays / how it went down.
SO yeah we can freak out over the one turnover that was actually a bad decision, but I’d prefer to be upset over a defense that gave up an 89% completion % (32 of 36) along with 160 rushing yards, and a RT that basically single handidly destroyed multiple drives in which we were 1 dimensional trying to pass to catch up because Drug Martin was averaging 2.6 YPC.
Saints Loss 31-24
For one – 31 points – pretty damn bad. Most teams don’t win games giving up 31 points. Brees with 300 yard efficient day and the Saints with 123 yards rushing.
Winston had 2 turnovers tho. 1st one looked like PI on Evans but was still a bad decision. 2nd one was bad decision that cost us what would have probably been a missed Roberto 40+ yard FG lol. Down 10 with 8 mins left and should have played for the FG on a 3rd and long vs what he did, but let’s be real – at this point in the season no one had faith in FGs being made in that range.
Could have def played a better game and one of those turnovers was pretty damn bad. Still put up 24 points tho. 24 points wins if the D allows average amount of scoring per game (23).
There’s my “homework”. Do with it what you will.
Additionally – not sure if people remember the Raiders game where a defensive holding penalty cost us the game and forced it to go to OT.
We also gave up 40 points, 43 points, and 37 points in 3 of our other losses.
Defense matters a lot kind of. We’ve seen how the Ravens can win with just defense & a run game.
Our QB is polarizing but we won’t win with ANY QB if we keep putting out bottom 5-8 scoring defenses, special teams, AND run games.
That’s why I could care less about WInston debates… Not when there are non-debatable obvious to anyone problems we know need to be fixed for the team to have any chance to win consistently regardless of the QB.
GO BUCS!!
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:47 pm
Then again, a Super Bowl won might make you a new daddy. So there’s that.
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:49 pm
LC….preach. Spot on, but they can’t hear you, though.
June 3rd, 2019 at 5:57 pm
“Lol the bucsheep …hee hee
The only way this francise become playoff relevant
Is when we bring in a President of operations to hire a legitimate GM
We a president to run this franchise and a buffer so the Glazer boys dont get to close/influential to the GM
Head coach is only the 3rd hire after BA but not as important as the top 2 position. We need more young core talent on this roster. No damn 10 million dollar spent on a old malcontent like Suh is a huge mistake. We should have pickedup 2/3 young defensive players that have not produced like Nassib
Remember this
You cant tweak a 5-11 team. Our roster is a 5 win team, not a 8-9 win team full of young needing a few key vets to take the next step
We need a total tear down. We need draft picks by dumping ali and evans. 2 years of 2-4 win seasons building and gathering young talented core players”
Kobe Faker
*Even if we win 2-4 wins next year, Gump WILL NOT BE FIRED. Licht is here with BA for 2 years.
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:01 pm
GMC to the Panthers…
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:05 pm
ANNNNND, McCoy signs with the Panthers, lol!!! Just released!
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:06 pm
Predictably…fragile psych-ied SheMC chose the Panthers, so he can watch a real DT in Suh show him how its done at least twice a year. Hope Panthers gave him $8.5 this year, $7 mill next year, with the proverbial NEVER REACHED incentives adding “more”.
Not! What a fragile, little…yeah.
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:06 pm
Softie is gonna look sooo cute in Carolina Blue!!!
Can’t wait to play them!!!
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:07 pm
Should be fun times running it right up GMC’s a$$ 2 times a season now!
Let the GMC attitude spread through-out Carolina’s D and infect them now! Should be fun times!!
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:11 pm
Ohhhh…its a 1 year deal!! Rotoworld is money.
This outta be good on the terms!!
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:15 pm
Cheap little Batman luvin thing didnt want to sell the BatCave in Tampa…so predictable. He can “keep his family in the same place”, and feebly try to exact revenge.
Watch it be $8.5- $9 million, with $2 million in “incentives”, only $500k of which SheMC can and will ACTUALLY reach.
Suh!!! Suh!!!…
June 3rd, 2019 at 6:22 pm
@kobe
That’s just way too dismal IMO
At least for my delusionally optmistic self lol
GO BUCS
June 3rd, 2019 at 7:44 pm
“5 or 6 guys to “churn” the bottom of the roster…???”
There goes Gump’s 2019 draft picks!
There goes Gump!
June 3rd, 2019 at 9:11 pm
Holy cow we have some of the stupidest fans in the league. When did this site become a whiny the sky is falling comment board. Are head coach says it is easier to flip a team around. Speaking about accountability saying players will be a lot better now with it. He is knocking the old coaching staff saying they didn’t hold anyone accountable so they could free lance or take plays off. He isn’t going to let players get away with that and they know it. So yeah guys that have been ok but have shown flashes. Those flashes with be all the time now. Because they know if they take a play off they could be cut or benched and there goes there big dollar contract. These guys are mostly all millionaires or close to it. So if you let them be lazy they will be lazy. But if you ride there but they will produce. They have been coached hard there whole life or they wouldn’t be in the nfl. You guys act like he is being arrogant by stating a fact. I think accountability alone is worth 3 wins. And real coaching is worth another two. So there’s 5 more wins so we can 10 games this year and I wouldn’t be shocked one bit. 11-5 wouldn’t shock me. Us bucs fans have had some of the worst head coaches since Gruden was fired that I think we forget what a great coach can do for a team. We had party with the players Raheem. Toes on the line control the temp in every room Schiano. We had running a out of date scheme regardless of it doesn’t work anymore and I want to get only players who have played in that scheme smith. Then the you are rewarded for being a lazy a-hole and disrupting the team and made captain and no one can do wrong they tried hard enough koetter.
June 4th, 2019 at 8:05 am
#tankfortua
June 4th, 2019 at 10:27 am
San Francisco will have two top pass rushers in speed rusher Dee Ford aimed at D. Smith’s weakness and on the other side Nick Bosa against Dotson and a Pro Bowler DT Deforest Buckner who had 12 sacks last year on the inside. If our power blocking scheme with our OL can get running room for Barber and Jones and if BA schemes to stop those DEs so Jameis has time to throw and our Defense can intercept and confuse a healthy Jimmy Garoppolo in our opening game that will tell the tale! I believe BA can do it!
June 4th, 2019 at 10:53 am
Dotson played hurt last year and looked weaker than he will play in our opening game. He is our best pass blocker and he did not start at RT out of college because it took many years to develop him from a basketball player to our best OLineman. He still has more years left on his legs and a number of OL still play at 35 years of age like our former LT did with Oakland. Don’t count Dotson out. As long as BA starts Auclair next to D. Smith to chip block Dee Ford who is only 250 lbs. or so then D. Smith can pancake him on every play with his 340 lbs. we can keep Jameis safe to make his throws. Suh and Vea can make life tough for Buckner too on the inside.