Using Suh
May 29th, 2019
Now what?
So the Bucs got manbeast defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh. OK, the next step is…
We’re not sure. It isn’t like Bucs coach Bucco Bruce Arians is going to broadcast to the NFL in May how he will use Suh.
But Albert Breer, chieftain of theMMQB.com, thinks he knows Suh’s role. Breer has a fantastic NFL contact list on his smartphone and he was tipped off by an unknown-to-the-public source what Bucs fans want to know about Suh’s usage.
One thing that the Bucs liked about Ndamukong Suh? His versatility. I’m told that in Todd Bowles’ defense, one that prizes malleability, the expectation is that Suh will play all over the place.
Now this is very interesting and it almost makes Joe wonder if Vita Vea will be bounced all over the place as well? Remember, one of Vita’s traits is that he is quick enough to play as an end in a 34-front defense. And Arians has said he believes Vea can move around.
Now how cool would it be if, for example, rookie Terry Beckner (if he makes the team) logs a few plays at nose tackle and both Suh and Vea play at the ends?
May 29th, 2019 at 9:09 am
Vita fullback; Suh running back.
Problem solved, Joe!
May 29th, 2019 at 9:14 am
lol @ Todd , you have it backwards Suh at Fullback and Vea at running back where I believe he played in high school.
I’d pay to see that!
May 29th, 2019 at 9:17 am
if you want to peep Vea playing running back it is quite the sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q–ZYUOc2I
May 29th, 2019 at 9:30 am
Right Guard….for sure!!!
May 29th, 2019 at 9:35 am
EvolvingBucsFan—
I stand down! Wow! Yes, I too would pay to see that…and likely WILL knowing Arians!
May 29th, 2019 at 9:38 am
Todd Bowles to defense: “I’ve gathered you today to tell you how much I appreciate malleability.”
Defense to Todd Bowles (collectively): “Huh?”
May 29th, 2019 at 9:52 am
I’d indeed love to see VV50 at RB in short yardage situations!
May 29th, 2019 at 9:59 am
396 QB pressures during a 9 year span. I like the post from yesterday when someone noted Aaron Donald’s average prior to teaming with Suh was around 9.5 sacks a season. Added Suh and BANG! 20.5 just like that. See some of you got it all twisted thinking they sought this man to come inn and be Suh of Detroit naah man. It’s his presence that is most key. Darf Vea became a whole lot more destructive as a result of Suh bringing his services to The Bay.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:00 am
Oh and Joe consider it done. My money says Beckner Jr making this squad.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:08 am
Evolving,I peep that on the Tube a few months ago. Vea is a freak athlete man. Give me this season and next. Aaron Donald will not be considered the unanimous best Dlinemen in the NFL.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:14 am
Definitely see Suh and Vea playing ends at times in the 3-4, but I see Beau in the middle at nose. What if this defense better suits Gholston and he arrives this year. I’m betting they really like Buckner and will try to hide him on the PS to develop him.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:15 am
@Joe
Did you forget Beau Allen?
Imagine Beau Allen at NT, and Vea and Suh at DE.
Wow. I would love that.
Attack up the middle. On every down.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:20 am
Joe there are times I just don’t get you. Why would it be “breaking news” to you that Suh and Vea will be used all over the place. One of the pluses Suh brings is that it frees up Vea for other looks on the line. Suh is of the same nature. Hasn’t the story of the Bowles defense all along been one of attack, attack, attack from anywhere and everywhere. You hear the term positionless football. The entire concept is confuse the offense and make it difficult to read prior to the snap. It may take time to implement but it sure sounds like fun. This is so much better than anything we have had for years.
May 29th, 2019 at 10:23 am
@ Todd and @ NOSBOS, yep, I still can’t believe his footwork for such a bug guy, definitely impressive.
“Refrigerator” Perry < Vita Vea…..
May 29th, 2019 at 10:26 am
I can see Suh being fiercer than ever before with all rhis encouraged endorsement from BA to bring the ole nasty back!!
Just a question now of how weak/suspect our CB/S positions likely are. And got a feelin Bowles doesn’t even wanna shed light on it, just take it thru preseason and it is what is, minus decent addition in August veteran’s cuts.
May 29th, 2019 at 11:09 am
Let’s see now.
Darf Vea! VitaManBeast!
Spearpoint Suh
Devastation Duo!
May 29th, 2019 at 11:24 am
The good news is that with a 3-4 defense we are set at DL.
With Suh and Vea starting you really just need a big body up with them to clog up blocks. You can put Beau Allen at NT or put Suh/Vea at NT and move Nassib up to the line. When we go with 4 down lineman you can use Nassib as DE. Or maybe Barrett or Spence can play that spot.
We might get even see Vea or Suh love g a few reps at DE if Todd sees a miatch.
At this point it’s anybody’s guess but it’s easy to see we have many options. And that’s a great thing……..All this also goes to show you why they decided to move on from Gerald who has basically only played one position his entire career.
I’m most curious about who will line up as a outside LB. This position will be big for our passrush. Not sure whose playing there and not sure if we have a lot of talent there. Won’t be surprised if we bring in more free agents or roster cuts to play that spot.
GO BUCS!!!
May 29th, 2019 at 11:24 am
Evolving
Thanks for the peep. Good stuff. And yes guys these are the best athletes in the world. All the linemen were stars at other positions growing up. I’d hate to be a safety having to tackle Vea back then. No thanks
May 29th, 2019 at 11:25 am
Typos**
May 29th, 2019 at 11:28 am
EvolvingBucsFan
THANKS!!! That was an amazing clip! He’s no refrigerator Perry who just used his bulk to steam roll people.
Vea was actually a very talented running back. What impressed me as Evolving said how agile and elusive VV is…but what really got my attention was his freaking speed!!!
He literally ran away from DB’s once he got into the secondary…he didn’t use his size to steamroll them he blew by them and then ran away from them.
If you want to see him fly…watch after his offense turned it over and an opponent scoops and starts flying the other way. VV runs him down from BEHIND!
Would you rather have a great RB or great DL? He’s both! We’re half joking about Suh/VV in the backfield on short yardage…why? They clearly could be very effective. Are we worried about injury? So the D stacks it and lines up to jam them…talk about play action fakes…JW just fakes it and tosses it to ME or OJ or Godwin in the endzone. All three of these guys are just EXCELLENT in tight situations fighting with DB’s. Would you want to cover ME one on one in the end zone? OJ? Godwin? I left out Brate on purpose because Auclair’s blocking and Brates multi million cap hit may have made him expendable.
The pieces are in place!!! Speed…size…and now attitude and a coaching staff that is excellent.
So guys…even though my father was a bookie I do not understand the modern rules. Is there a way for me to LEGALLY make a bet on Vegas over/under from the comfort of my home…I truly want to get some cash on that.
Does Hard Rock take sports wagers like that? I’m certainly fired up enough to drive out I-4.
May 29th, 2019 at 11:30 am
There are no sportsbooks in Florida. Illegal.
May 29th, 2019 at 12:08 pm
Coaches exist that use more than one look on defense?!?!
Say it ain’t so, Mike Smith!!!
May 29th, 2019 at 12:14 pm
Evolvingbucfan VV had some nice stop n go n cutbacks in high school looked like he was out running everybody n if he didnt the got stiff armed to the ground. Little bit of Jerome B. Lol
May 29th, 2019 at 12:31 pm
Joe
Thanks for that disappointing info about Hard Rock. They’ve talked about it forever but I do not believe we can do it on the internet either without being at least in the same state as must be proved by a geolocator in your device.
I guess Beau Rivage in Mississippi is not that far to drive for a nice vacation.
May 29th, 2019 at 12:37 pm
joe
i think thats exactly whats going to happen….
being a UF fan, ive watched terry beckner play a ton and was shocked he went undrafted…..kid stuffs the run very well which i believe is his strength and he can also collapse the pocket in the pass game…..
VV-TB-SUH would be nasty and teams wont be able to run on that front…..
GO BUCS!!!!!
May 30th, 2019 at 4:24 am
If Suh and Vea play ends, then don’t expect them to get many sacks.
3-4 Guide
“Ends in this type of system are expected to be larger and take up more space and can line up anywhere from the outside shoulder of the tackle to the gap between the tackle and guard. Their main responsibility is to occupy as many offensive blockers as possible so as to allow the linebacker a clearer shot at the ball-carrier.”
Tackles are almost always double teamed, so they don’t get sacks either.
So here we are with tackles who might be ends, ends who might be LBs, and LBs who might be….?