“McCoy Wanted Out”
May 27th, 2019All the Gerald McCoy-related drama has been a boon to the Buccaneers in one very big way.
It’s made a nationally irrelevant franchise very relevant in the minds of the guys who talk and write football for a living.
NBC Sports has a signature weekly Monday column penned by pontificating Peter King, the NFL super insider. And he actually wrote about the Bucs today, which is not commonplace.
King is counting the losses of the Bucs defense and his math says it will enhance the pressure on America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston.
3. I think Tampa Bay “parting ways” with Gerald McCoy now means that, arguably, that three of the best four or five defensive players on the unit from last year (McCoy, Jason Pierre-Paul, Kwon Alexander) are gone—McCoy to a new team, Alexander to the 49ers in free agency, and Pierre-Paul out with a back injury possibly for the season. It just puts more pressure on the offense, and on under-the-microscope quarterback Jameis Winston, to be markedly better under Bruce Arians and Byron Leftwich this fall. And I mean very markedly.
4. I think Ndamukong Suh, at one year and $9.25 million, instead of McCoy at $13 million, says to me McCoy wanted out (which he did; he wants to play for a winner) and the Bucs didn’t fight him because the team didn’t want to extend a 31-year-old tackle entering his 10th year, at a time when he’s coming off a good but not McCoy-like season
Well, King put his foot down there saying Gerald McCoy wanted out of Tampa. Joe’s going to assume King was told that by someone in the know, though Joe always is cynical because team officials and agents are prone to spreading extraordinary levels of BS.
That desire to leave Tampa might be what separates McCoy from other Bucs greats who moved on to new teams. Those guys, such as John Lynch. Hardy Nickerson and Warren Sapp (can Joe throw Michael Bennett in there?) wanted to stay in Bucs colors.
Regardless, Joe is glad the Bucs are being talked about outside of the Bay area.
May 27th, 2019 at 5:14 pm
I missed the usual intro to King Joe is famous for…not sure King is plugged into The Bucs but he sure doesn’t seem to like them. If it is true…even more of a good riddance to McCoy. Maybe he’ll make that strip sack type signature play to close out a game we never saw in Tampa. Unless you count the feeble clinging to Matt Ryan’s ankle which may have caused an errant pass to end a Falcon’s furious comeback.
May 27th, 2019 at 5:20 pm
Maybe McCoy didn’t want to be held accountable. Has any coach ever gotten in Mr. Quick First Step grill?
Maybe he knew the soft days were over.
BTW, Mr. King, losing the Red Rooster is a massive gain for the Bucs. Suh for McCoy is a massive gain, and JPP couldn’t be helped.
Losing DeSean Jackson os a solid gain.
May 27th, 2019 at 5:23 pm
Why are we still talking about this pre Madonna … holy spit … who gives a crap … glad he’s gone .. he was never a leader … he wasn’t a game changer … he made a splash play in a game and when he did he was done … that’s his work ethic… overrated … all talk … he got coaches fired … he made players around him lazy… only thing he was dedicated to is his marvel universe … shoot if your even gonna pick a super hero to admire at least pick one that has powers like super man or iron man … funny he loves marvel yet his favorite super hero is – DC character… shows you how fake he is
May 27th, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Sure he wanted to get out; after the UNvitation to OTAs that BA gave him. Bet he wanted to stay and continue coasting for that cool 13mil, though!
May 27th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
Is Arians gonna hold the Glazers accountable for these horrendous uniforms?
May 27th, 2019 at 5:34 pm
Mccoy wanted out because his career was wasted with 12 yard cushion coverage by our dbs. Nobody can get to the qb in that coverage.
IT WAS ALWAYS COACHING!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2019 at 5:35 pm
McCoy didn’t like being called out by Arians. His feelings got hurt. Big baby.
Wonder why no one has signed him yet. Must not be enough money for Gerald.
He also doesn’t care about playing for a contender. That’s a joke.
May 27th, 2019 at 5:38 pm
MEgmc
Proves it again
He wants someone else to win him a ring so he can dance on the sideline and DO cute Instagram videos
JOE do you still WONDER WHY FANS DIDNT LIKE GMC
TRUE COLORS HAVE BEEN SHOWN
May 27th, 2019 at 5:52 pm
Defense will be better. Better coaching, better scheme. Might not be great, but better than last year. Wouldn’t take much, right?
May 27th, 2019 at 5:54 pm
I think there is little question that BA, Bowles and probably Licht wanted GMC out…..GMC didn’t feel the love from them….
And, I agree…..how many more GMC articles can we expect….he is GONE!!!
May 27th, 2019 at 5:55 pm
McCoy knew his softness wouldn’t be tolerated here by a top notch coach. Dude isn’t stupid he saw the writing on the wall
May 27th, 2019 at 5:56 pm
So glad that guy is gone. Sick of the continuously soft defenses under his lead
May 27th, 2019 at 5:58 pm
BEUp…that explains wanting out the last couple of years. From everything I’ve heard, Bowles D won’t give 12 yard cushions.
May 27th, 2019 at 6:01 pm
Can we stop with the GMC articles, he is gone…his articles at this point are useless, just like he was to us lately….imo
May 27th, 2019 at 6:09 pm
We’re supposed to worry about losing the “best” players from some of the sh!ttiest defenses this league has seen? I’m crying…from laughing.
May 27th, 2019 at 6:09 pm
@ SteelStud
Been a fan since day one. Loved the creamsickle unis. Would love to have them back.
Or anything else for that matter. These unis have got to go!
May 27th, 2019 at 6:10 pm
I couldn´t care less about Mc Coy , I couldn´t care less on Pêter King, and I couldn´t care less about Kings´opinion on Mc Coy!!!!! Bottom line, I just dont care!!!
May 27th, 2019 at 6:11 pm
Unless it comes from GMC it’s all BS IMHO
May 27th, 2019 at 6:15 pm
Ok I’ll say it Iron man didnt have superpowers JS 🤷♂️😂
May 27th, 2019 at 6:22 pm
I don’t think GMC wanted out. But he also knew his services would be highly coveted by other teams. He wanted to stay a Buc. But his agent told him not to accept less money. I got him signing a deal worth 8 to 10 mil a yr somewheres.
May 27th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
For home jersey I like blood red with creamsickle and pewter colored numbers
come to think of it I sorta liked those red color rush unis but not ketchup red but slightly darker hue blood red
May 27th, 2019 at 6:34 pm
4 or 5 best players of a 5-11 team and one of the worse defenses in the league. They don’t know what the 2019 defense will be but ain’t hard to do better than Mike Smith.
Who cares if he wanted out, I’m sure Geraldine was done with this franchise after licht watched the second half of that Baltimore ravens game when they ran it down this teams throat. We may be missing his mediocre pass rush but we wont be missing how soft he was up the middle against the run. Gonna laugh when people see how much better the defense is without him
May 27th, 2019 at 6:36 pm
Some Loyality to your loyal readers would be nice
This moderation and flat out blocking comments that have nothing bad in them except a negative towards GMC is ridiculous
If you don’t want ATrain posting just say
May 27th, 2019 at 6:41 pm
Mark…you will never see our defenders goving the cushion they have been giving over the last decade under this coaching staff unless we have a 34-10 lead late in the 4th quarter
May 27th, 2019 at 6:46 pm
Just remember this EVERY player, coach and equipment manager that ever played with McCoy has gone on to post season success except Lovie Smith.
May 27th, 2019 at 7:05 pm
Nowhere in this tirade do I see where THE GREAT GMC is quoted as saying “I want out”…..propaganda is what this is, anyways he’s gone and we have SUEY….now if we play against THE GREAT GMC then I will be up to hearing about him!! Go Bucs SUEY…SUEY!!
May 27th, 2019 at 7:27 pm
I think the biggest loss will be Adam Humphries–he was so reliable, look forward to watching him play as a Titan Just don’t like Mariota–not really NFL material.
May 27th, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Don’t care whether or not GNC wanted out, he is gone and no longer warrants further discussion. New day in Tampa Bay, this defense is going to rock.
May 27th, 2019 at 7:52 pm
I don’t believe one word of this crap. IF McCoy wanted out so bad, why does he want to return and retire, as a Buc ?
May 27th, 2019 at 8:10 pm
There were multiple times our defense was in huge spots and McCoy wasn’t even in the game. He was on the sideline. Too hurt to stay in the game.
This is not the type of leader conducive to winning. My guess is is Bruce knew this and wanted McCoy out just the same.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:11 pm
Came off more as an assumption than some inside info he had access to.
Here’s the best way to tell: No named source equals assumption. Period.
There is no protecting of sources. Not really. Because if they say off the record, then he shouldn’t even mention it. King is not the man in the know that he used to be.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:13 pm
firethecannons, I agree on Humphries.
Although I have been reading good things about Scotty Miller.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:16 pm
Maze Says
“So glad that guy is gone. Sick of the continuously soft defenses under his lead”
McCoy was a leader off the field. Not on the field. If the defense around him had been better, McCoy would have had multiple double digit sack seasons. Not his fault. Not even Licht’s fault. Blame Dominick. Once Licht drafted Winston, it all became about building around him, and rightfully so.
Dominick is the one who failed to build the defense. Two good player…McCoy and David. That;s all he got us.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:19 pm
I very seriously doubt McCoy wanted to leave as much he wanted $13M to stay. I also don’t think Kwon had produced much for at least all last year, or at least not to his potential. He was better his first two years. Maybe he needs PEDs to be good? JPP is the biggest loss on the D, with Beckwith coming after that.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:27 pm
Can we do an article of why Steve Young wanted out.
sarcasm is my first language.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:33 pm
Loyalty? How about loyalty to Joe? You know, Joe has a life too. He has family duties to attend to, yardwork to do, a job to do, and sometimes enjoy a few moments with friends. Joe just finished yardwork and instead of hitting the shower decided to check to dig out the moderated comments and someone’s whining. Good grief man. (And by the way, you are one of the hundreds of commenters in permanent moderation for past malicious attacks on Joe.) Is Joe allowed to sh!t, shower and shave without having a damn phone in his hands checking to see if some people who (at some point) didn’t or couldn’t behave have to have a comment dug out of moderation?
You think Joe enjoys this???
If Joe wasn’t loyal to his readers, he wouldn’t give a s(p)it about comments and just let them rot in moderation.
Joe fully understands how this can be frustrating for readers and comments but it is aggravating for Joe.
There, rant over. 🙁
May 27th, 2019 at 8:34 pm
I believe McCoy had some very good years with Tampa. I don’t play the attitude conjecture game, all that matters is when a player steps on the field and performs. I wish him well, but now he is gone and I find any further conversation about him unproductive and without merit. Those players still available and training are my only concern.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:41 pm
I think some of y’all are a little foolish to say the least. Now tell me this. If McCoy is wanting to escape a team that won’t allow him to “coast.” Then why would he want to sign with a winning team? Any team that consistently wins obviously doesn’t put out “soft” guys like McCoy on to the field. You foolish McCoy haters can watch McCoy enjoy the best years of his career now.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:43 pm
Funny more than half the posters and here are completely negative about the Bucs and their chances next year yet they’re the same people trash McCoy for wanting to leave and go win somewhere else.
Joe happy Memorial Day and I hope you’re got a burger or dog today remembering those who lost their lives making this the great Country it is.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:44 pm
I call BS on McCoy choosing to leave. He was shown the door. Now he’s busy talking about how important it is to play for a winner. Translation: he’s negotiating the highest contract possible and using his winning team criteria as an excuse to cover signing for less $ than Suh.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:50 pm
Peter King is literally a fake news fraud, I wouldn’t trust his take on anything.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:53 pm
McCoy is a whiny baby and was tired of us hammering his poor and seldom performance. His ego is much greater than his ability on the field.
May 27th, 2019 at 8:56 pm
Ok ok on can this PLEASE be the last article on GMC please, seriously PLEASE
He’s gone man. Tell me something bout this Edwards kid we got. Hell, how’s Barrett doing? Something on BUCS players would be nice…
Go BUCS
May 27th, 2019 at 8:57 pm
Lol nice rant. The moderation crap does get annoying but I get it….
May 27th, 2019 at 8:58 pm
Wow, even THAT comment is awaiting moderation
May 27th, 2019 at 9:00 pm
More coming. Just schedule one for tomorrow morning. As long as one of the best players for the Bucs in the past decade is making news, Joe feels compelled to share. No one is forcing anybody to read a story they don’t want to read.
May 27th, 2019 at 9:01 pm
McCoy will probably be getting a big surprise when he finds out no team is gonna pay him 13 million!
When Suh signed with us for 9.25 million, it pretty much set the price McCoy will ultimately get.
I would say 8 to 8.5 million is tops for McCoy.
Now, if we trade our overpair 7 million a year tight end, guess what ?
We would have to money to resign McCoy !
Imagine that ?
May 27th, 2019 at 9:12 pm
I’m with all the guys who are simply ready to move on and forget GMC. I like GMC but Suh will be an upgrade. I wish GMC nothing but the best and hope he lights it up except when his team plays us.
After that interview from the French Open Joe posted(watch if you haven’t) I’m now firmly on the Suh bandwagon…not just because he’s a Buc but because he’s an erudite, intelligent guy who happens to be an athletic freak who plays with an edge on a football field
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That interview prompted me to do some research and I really started liking Suh. Sadly the ONLY thing I knew about Suh was his game. He’s not only a great player but a cool dude as well. And without needing Batman or comic books to maintain his coolness. Suh and White are going to make us mean and tough and athletic up the middle. Suh starred in three sports in high school…dude is a flat out athlete…with the attitude we’ve been missing. GMC is gone…Suh is here.
And while we’re at it…can we stop with the pieces…especially from national scribes and local losers like Ian who continue to bleat that the team is now worse. That’s absurd.
We have improved dramatically this off season!!! Especially the D!
It’s not just Suh over GMC…I appreciate Kwon…he played a few great games for us…some good games…and some mediocre to below par games and he missed quite a few games with injuries and suspensions.
As for the potential of White versus Kwon we only have their college career to compare apples to apples. I was stunned!!!
It’s NOT EVEN FREAKING CLOSE. Both played 3 years at LSU and the numbers are striking. White had 8.5 sacks to Kwons 1.5 in those three years. White had 114 solo tackles 286 total tackles with 28.5 tackles for a loss…Kwon..78-167 with 15 tackles for a loss. Compare those numbers!!! No wonder Kwon lasted until the 4th round while we needed a #5 pick to get White. Look at the size and speed differential combined with these stats and White is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Kwon!!!
Our D HAS IMPROVED this off season. Ian is full of Beckles!!!
I think he harbors a lot of envy and jealousy.
May 27th, 2019 at 9:14 pm
Can’t we all just get along?
May 27th, 2019 at 9:18 pm
^ Product of a losing culture.
May 27th, 2019 at 9:41 pm
I think McCoy was vastly overrated. And I mean vastly. Now that he has been dumped the boots are off and there’s a lot of BS being brought to light. Like I didn’t know the whole McCoy being double teamed angle was grossly exaggerated.
There’s growing belief that McCoy was the one who really started using the double teams as a crutch and the media rolled with it. Now I’m hearing studies that Gerald was not doubt let teamed as much as believed.
His presence against the run was literally non existent. And we put up with it for a freaking decade. Roll back and check out some of the inside runs against McCoy. He was a bad player on the majority of these plays.
We’ve had this guy crammed down our throats for ten years and it has likely been total BS. Overrated the whole time.
May 27th, 2019 at 9:44 pm
Joe—-there is a reason that i always go to this site first each day.You run the best sports talk site in the bay and you can bitch all you want–i love every minute of it!!!!
May 27th, 2019 at 10:07 pm
This guy was basically given a decade long pass for being a bad player against the run. His low tackles speak for themselfs. Gerald was never held accountable. And the love affair was so strong that anyone who criticized was attacked.
His sacks numbers were blown way out of porportion too. He was a inconsistent passrusher. The evidence is well documented where he rarely ever showed up in key moments. Furter evidence is the pitiful sack totals he put up against his own division. Don’t know they number off top of my head but it’s pitiful and embarrassing.
Extremely overrated.
May 27th, 2019 at 10:18 pm
Question for Nccoy bashers…I hear about all these players getting better from coaching? Was mmvcoy going to have different coaches? Was DeSean? Or Fitz? Lol. Oops. This magical better coaching is being used one wat.
May 27th, 2019 at 11:44 pm
@Joe … “Joe fully understands how this can be frustrating for readers and comments but it is aggravating for Joe. There, rant over. 🙁”
Wow! Too hot out today to be doing yardwork Joe. Pool time.
May 27th, 2019 at 11:47 pm
I think we are going to surprise people with this team. Even with the loss of JPP, I think our new coaching staff, system, and depth will benefit us in the long run. I am so sick of hearing about tough schedule, no McCoy, Humpries or Alexandar. We haven’t had a playoff team in what 10 years, let’s give the new blood a chance.
Plus, maybe we chase, L. Williams, J. Clowney, T. Boston, D. Johnson or someone else later in FA. I can’t wait to see this new product as the old product just wasn’t good, period. It might have been coaching, players, leadership, schedule but whatever it was it wasn’t working!
My only concern is the OL… would love to trade or pickup a veteran starter later in July?
Go Bucs
prediction 10-6 and one win in playoffs
May 27th, 2019 at 11:49 pm
@StPete … “We have improved dramatically this off season!!! Especially the D!”
Yea verily! JPP’s accident set us back a tad undoubtedly, but it opens up opportunities for several other players that might reap some great rewards. I can’t friggin wait to see this defense in action. The communication might take awhile to perfect, but I’m quite optimistic that opponents will know they’ve been in a dogfight.
May 28th, 2019 at 2:04 am
GMC’s best contribution the the Bucs has to be the colored hair.
May 28th, 2019 at 7:07 am
2019 brings on a 6-10 season. Don’t see dramatic improvement. As far as holding people accountable that only goes so far. How are you going to keep someone accountable thats just here for the money. Release them so they can go to a team going to the playoffs.
May 28th, 2019 at 9:37 am
lol, Joe just whooped someone’s butt.
Joe, I might complain at times about negativity, but I happen to think you do a great job maintaining this website. Keep up the good work!
May 28th, 2019 at 9:39 am
I agree, the JPP accident has really set the defense back.
I think it is important that our defense be at least mid-range or better if Winston is going to succeed this year.
And, of course…kicking matters immensely.
May 28th, 2019 at 11:33 am
Cartoon balloon caption above GMCs head reads, damn I thought I had them all fooled.